thank you for the info, that is same information i found on there site listed "first set", Satpc32 claimes when i loaded the keps and looked for the nexted few days passes, that it will be hight 312.7 to 309.6 mi just higher than ISS, but cover most of the us on a center us pass?? space track has that number 35870 as a fregit/isrs?? just trying to learn how things go, intersting Rodney kc0zhf