It is an article about "space junk". They point to Amateur Radio as one of the leaders in adding junk to the space above, indicating we ignore rules and others don't enforce the rules. If you don't enjoy talking on satellites, then yes, for you, it is spam. For others, I think it is something to be aware of and be prepared to address if in such a position. Not trying to cause harm to you or your computer. Just trying to help save my hobby and others livelihoods. You may ignore it... I meant for it to be read by those that have concern over our future in space. My apologies for that ending up in your mail box.
Doug Bennight K4GKJ 850-528-5772 850-926-2052
-------- Original message -------- From: Robert Bruninga bruninga@usna.edu Date: To: Doug - k4gkj k4gkj@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Interesting articke
Doug,
Is this spam or phishing?
Without a subject or a sentence suggesting why someone on AMSAT might want to even take a look at this article, or even give a clue that theis email was originated by an actual ham, probably no one will follow your link.
I certainly wont since it looks 100% like a scam or phising email...
Just thought you might like to know if someone has hacked your account.
Bob, WB4aPR
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Doug - k4gkj k4gkj@embarqmail.com wrote:
http://m.electronicdesign.com/blog/are-cubesats-adding-space-junk?NL=ED-03&a...
Doug Bennight 850-528-5772 850-926-2052
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The point is, if you post a message with a completely generic subject (like "Interesting Article") and a body text consisting entirely of a URL and not even a callsign in your signature, then it is indistinguishable from SPAM. Under the circumstances how was someone to know that this linked to anything of interest to a ham radio operator, and not to some porno site or a credit card scam or similar?
The "are-cubesats-adding-space-junk?" in the URL was a clue that it might not be spam. And I did find it interesting. :)
73, Ollie AJ1O
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Interesting articke From: "Gus" gus@8p6sm.net Date: 10/1/14 5:29 pm To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
The point is, if you post a message with a completely generic subject (like "Interesting Article") and a body text consisting entirely of a URL and not even a callsign in your signature, then it is indistinguishable from SPAM. Under the circumstances how was someone to know that this linked to anything of interest to a ham radio operator, and not to some porno site or a credit card scam or similar?
-- Gus 8P6SM The Easternmost Isle
On 10/01/2014 01:45 PM, Doug - k4gkj wrote:
It is an article about "space junk". They point to Amateur Radio as one of the leaders in adding junk to the space above, indicating we ignore rules and others don't enforce the rules. If you don't enjoy talking on satellites, then yes, for you, it is spam. For others, I think it is something to be aware of and be prepared to address if in such a position. Not trying to cause harm to you or your computer. Just trying to help save my hobby and others livelihoods. You may ignore it... I meant for it to be read by those that have concern over our future in space. My apologies for that ending up in your mail box.
Doug Bennight K4GKJ 850-528-5772 850-926-2052
-------- Original message -------- From: Robert Bruninga bruninga@usna.edu Date: To: Doug - k4gkj k4gkj@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Interesting articke
Doug,
Is this spam or phishing?
Without a subject or a sentence suggesting why someone on AMSAT might want to even take a look at this article, or even give a clue that theis email was originated by an actual ham, probably no one will follow your link.
I certainly wont since it looks 100% like a scam or phising email...
Just thought you might like to know if someone has hacked your account.
Bob, WB4aPR
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Doug - k4gkj k4gkj@embarqmail.com wrote:
http://m.electronicdesign.com/blog/are-cubesats-adding-space-junk?NL=ED-03&a...
Doug Bennight 850-528-5772 850-926-2052
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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On 10/01/2014 08:51 PM, ollie@ollietech.com wrote:
The "are-cubesats-adding-space-junk?" in the URL was a clue that it might not be spam.
True. And that is why I followed the link. But generally, I don't attempt to analyze the URL in every SPAMmy looking e-mail I receive.
They point to Amateur Radio as one of the leaders in adding junk to the space above, indicating we ignore rules and others don't enforce the rules.
I'm sorry, where does it state that? I may have missed something. In any case, genuine amateur radio CubeSats are the vast minority compared to university CubeSats and new commercial constellations.
There is, however, a task for us radio amateurs out there. Find your local CubeSat project and convince them to do something for us with their mission! Also, help them with the engineering involved, since there is a lot of non-operational junk out there which is a shame. Space junk is only junk when its not doing something useful.
There are many de-orbit demonstrator missions on the roll, so the community is working on the de-orbit issue. The article also misses the point that as secondary payload, you often do not have a choice over your orbit.
I would say, if its university, keep em below the ISS, if its anything build for longer service, shoot it up to 600km and higher, depending on the mission.
Wouter PA3WEG FUNcube radio designer Delfi-C3 radio designer
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