View from the space station question
I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... Umeshk6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote:
I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
Good article and response, Umesh !!
Happy Independence Day to all !!
73, Ted K7TRK
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Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... Umeshk6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote:
I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
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Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there !
On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions.
Happy 4th !!
Umesh k6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote:
Good article and response, Umesh !!
Happy Independence Day to all !!
73, Ted K7TRK
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Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... Umeshk6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote:
I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
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Umesh,
I like your idea.
Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn’t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts).
The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task.
I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what’s it like or how’s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut.
I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.)
73, EMike
EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there !
On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions.
Happy 4th !!
Umesh k6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote:
Good article and response, Umesh !!
Happy Independence Day to all !!
73, Ted K7TRK
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Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... Umeshk6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski <hobergenix@gmail.com> wrote:I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
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Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm@gmail.com writes:
Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn’t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what’s it like or how’s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-)
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Hi all,
I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment.
I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last.
I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements.
My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions.
Comments?
73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors
In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm@gmail.com writes:
Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn’t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what’s it like or how’s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. 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software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression ...
Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ...
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm@amsat.org
I don't feel like those two things are mutually exclusive as your volunteer pool has varied skills to contribute
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 12:47 PM JoAnne K9JKM joanne.k9jkm@gmail.com wrote:
software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression ...
Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ...
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm@amsat.org
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Unfortunately our volunteer pool is quite small.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 13:51 sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
I don't feel like those two things are mutually exclusive as your volunteer pool has varied skills to contribute
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 12:47 PM JoAnne K9JKM joanne.k9jkm@gmail.com wrote:
software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression ...
Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ...
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm@amsat.org
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Duly noted John, I'm sure the upstream data scientists would like that. This kind of data mining may be possible from the historical data pool, however if the children do look at the Almanac, they may (repeat may) choose not ask the same questions.
Good thought !
73! Umesh k6vug
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:16:04 AM PDT, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-)
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Hi all,
I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment.
I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last.
I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements.
My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions.
Comments?
73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors
In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm@gmail.com writes:
Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn’t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what’s it like or how’s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. 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Hi all, Frank Bauer just sent an email a little while ago. There is something very seriously in the works that ARISS is doing. It has been in the works for some time. I have a feeling it involves much much more than what some of you have suggested; we will see. So in the meantime, I suggest everyone slow down a bit and ARISS will let you know what happens next. Frank was pretty clear in what exactly he could tell everyone at this point in time. So let ARISS do its job. (Seems like a job anyway since I have already put 2 hours in on ARISS today. I think today is a holiday. Hi!) I think you have to realize that the kids come up with the questions, irregardless of any almanac. So if we see the same question 1000 times, then we see the same question 1000 times. It is their question, not from ARISS, not from AMSAT. It is theirs. It is their question and hopefully a response directly to them that they are wanting to get directly from the astronaut who calls them by name (by the way, ARISS does not publish any student names in the public domain because of privacy concerns). What a thrill. Thanks for the interest in ARISS. When I was ARISS contact #1 back in December 2000, we really were not sure how much interest there would be. We thought it might be pretty big but we never knew. It seems to that there is a little bit of interest. 73, Charlie AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors In a message dated 7/4/2018 2:32:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, k6vug@sbcglobal.net writes:
Duly noted John, I'm sure the upstream data scientists would like that. This kind of data mining may be possible from the historical data pool, however if the children do look at the Almanac, they may (repeat may) choose not ask the same questions. Good thought ! 73! Umesh k6vug On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:16:04 AM PDT, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote: I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-)
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Hi all,
I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment.
I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last.
I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements.
My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions.
Comments?
73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors
In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm@gmail.com writes:
Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn’t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what’s it like or how’s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa k7trkradio@charter.net wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski hobergenix@gmail.com wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. 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I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show !
Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out. Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions.
Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt%C2%A0 ) a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!)
So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. also, e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please) f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load. g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates,
After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :)
Initial set of action items I think will be - 1) get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc., (who can help ?) 2) review what we can get from Charlie's files (I'll take this one) 3) work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here)
JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get ! Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you !
Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars.
73!Umeshk6vug
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, aj9n@aol.com wrote:
Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors
Remember that contact people at schools can be quite mobile. The move on, quit teaching, retire, some die. What happens to answers is an unknown. Even for questions at the first 7 contacts don’t have them listed in the database.
I’m not saying not to try but this is daunting. As Frank Bauer points out it’s something in the queue and had been discussed.
I suggest that we would start compiling the questions. Divide them up by year and distribute them to volunteers. Start with some type of agreement on the format of a data base. And start copying and pasting. A plan to recover answers could be developed as we work forward. Working backwards may result in faster dividends. I suggest that some questions will be redundant enough that we weed out like and similar questions and fit them with the best answer (read this as authentic and correct even if responded at a different time).
In some respects it will be similar to genealogy research, there will be dead ends that might be fillable with collaborative data.
Just considering the time to find read and the copy and paste data collected over the past 18 years is daunting and not for faint of heart or those with short attention spans. Can it be done? Sure. But we’ll need to be persistent and patient.
73 EMike
EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 4, 2018, at 5:08 PM, "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show !
Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out. Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions.
Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ) a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!)
So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. also, e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please) f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load. g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates,
After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :)
Initial set of action items I think will be -
- get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc., (who can help ?)
- review what we can get from Charlie's files (I'll take this one)
- work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here)
JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get ! Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you !
Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars.
73!Umeshk6vug
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, aj9n@aol.com wrote:
Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors
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If you want to get in line for an ISS contact you need to fill out the paperwork. It's due by NOV for next year. I believe all the slots are filled for now. --- Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. GEO
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
From: "k6vug@sbcglobal.net" k6vug@sbcglobal.net To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org Cc: aj9n@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question
I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show !
Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out. Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions.
Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt%C2%A0 ) a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!)
So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. also, e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please) f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load. g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates,
After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :)
Initial set of action items I think will be - 1) get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc., (who can help ?) 2) review what we can get from Charlie's files (I'll take this one) 3) work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here)
JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get ! Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you !
Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars.
73!Umeshk6vug
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, aj9n@aol.com wrote:
Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors
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On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew.
Yeah, this is a great idea! It would be quite an archive. Let me know when you're ready to proceed and I can hook you up with the folks who can get you a login to post your new web pages.
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm@amsat.org
Link isn't working. Here is a different one
https://www.quora.com/Can-astronauts-see-fireworks-from-space
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 21:52 k6vug@sbcglobal.net k6vug@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Here is something discussion about it...
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-out... Umeshk6vug https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-spaceUmeshk6vug
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski <hobergenix@gmail.com> wrote:
I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks.
Mike N6IMF
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