Hello All,
I know this was discussed before, but I want to bring it up again.
Does anybody have a Linksys wireless router/4-port hub that does NOT make ugly noises around 145.870 MHz (and the satellite portion of 2M in general)?
I don't want a D-Link (bad previous experience), and I prefer Linksys; but I would consider some other brand.
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
I have a Linksys wireless router and don't have the noise problem you are experiencing. Based on prior posts on here, you might considering removing the wall wart and using a non-switching power supply. I myself use the wall wart, and I haven't experienced any noise problems on the 2 meter downlink. You might also consider building a cage for the router, if you have determined that's your source of noise.
73 de W4AS Sebastian
On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
Hello All,
I know this was discussed before, but I want to bring it up again.
Does anybody have a Linksys wireless router/4-port hub that does NOT make ugly noises around 145.870 MHz (and the satellite portion of 2M in general)?
I don't want a D-Link (bad previous experience), and I prefer Linksys; but I would consider some other brand.
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
-- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
Good afternoon Mark. I had the same 'birdie' problem with switches over the years. I now have a hybrid Linksys router model number wrt54gs. I've had this router in the shack for years, and never had a 'birdie' problem, even on S band. What is also great about this router is you can download free firmware to extend it's range, if needed. I will need this feature at my girlfriends house where she has a lot of neighbors competing for the wireless channels. I just bought one for her place for $46 at Wal-Mart today. When I get it installed , if needed, she will have a big signal.
73 Jeff kb2m
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark L. Hammond" marklhammond@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Linksys routers and 2M "birdies"
Hello All,
I know this was discussed before, but I want to bring it up again.
Does anybody have a Linksys wireless router/4-port hub that does NOT make ugly noises around 145.870 MHz (and the satellite portion of 2M in general)?
I don't want a D-Link (bad previous experience), and I prefer Linksys; but I would consider some other brand.
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
-- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:53 -0500, jeff kb2m wrote:
firmware to extend it's range, if needed. I will need this feature at my girlfriends house where she has a lot of neighbors competing for the wireless channels. I just bought one for her place for $46 at Wal-Mart today. When I get it installed , if needed, she will have a big signal.
I've never understood this. Why not just split in for a fat, fat connection and then use *proper* wireless to share it out across a few houses?
Gordon
Well for one thing, in stateside, it's usually against the rules of the ISP to share a connection with your neighbors.
However, I disagree with Jeff about increasing the power.
Jeff you should instead check to see which channels the other wireless networks are set at, and then move your channel far away. I've found most wireless routers use channel 6 as a default. It's usually a good idea to move to channel 1. Note that the frequency range of each channel actually includes part of the other channel(s); so you usually want to move up or down 3 channels from your neighbors if possible.
73 de W4AS Sebastian
On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:53 -0500, jeff kb2m wrote:
firmware to extend it's range, if needed. I will need this feature at my girlfriends house where she has a lot of neighbors competing for the wireless channels. I just bought one for her place for $46 at Wal- Mart today. When I get it installed , if needed, she will have a big signal.
I've never understood this. Why not just split in for a fat, fat connection and then use *proper* wireless to share it out across a few houses?
Gordon
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Yup, and..
For liability reasons, I wouldn't share your bandwidth with another household. Who knows what they'll do with the connection. Download illegal stuff, share illegal stuff, etc.. It's just bad juju.
Make your SSID unpublished, run IPCop on a spare beige box, and use an AccessPoint not a dual router-hub.
-jeff
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Sebastian wrote:
Well for one thing, in stateside, it's usually against the rules of the ISP to share a connection with your neighbors.
Err, check out Bruce Schneier's view on this.
73, doug
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Wandling W7BRS amsat@w7brs.com
Yup, and..
For liability reasons, I wouldn't share your bandwidth with another household. Who knows what they'll do with the connection. Download illegal stuff, share illegal stuff, etc.. It's just bad juju.
Make your SSID unpublished, run IPCop on a spare beige box, and use an AccessPoint not a dual router-hub.
-jeff
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Sebastian wrote:
Well for one thing, in stateside, it's usually against the rules of the ISP to share a connection with your neighbors.
Oh OK, so yea Bruce does have a different opinion about securing networks vs. the data you hold. You dropped the name but didn't give any context.
Yes, I've read his remarks on this. He has a different opinion. In a situation where the bandwidth wasn't an issue, I would agree 100%. In the context of bandwith, I'd do what I could to keep the pedestrian user from wasting my precious bandwidth.
His remarks don't deal with the bandwidth as far as I remember. He was speaking to the point of securing your data. If I had his income, and a network to match I wouldn't worry as much about the script kiddy next door stealing a few Mb/sec.
His message, in a nutshell; secure your data. The idea that you can protect your data by password protecting your network is the main complaint he has. I agree. It's foolish to think protecting your network secures your data.
I quote: "If I configure my computer to be secure regardless of the network it's on, then it simply doesn't matter. And if my computer isn't secure on a public network, securing my own network isn't going to reduce my risk very much."
The article is here, if you want to refer to it:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/my_open_wireles.html
-jeff
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
Err, check out Bruce Schneier's view on this.
73, doug
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Wandling W7BRS amsat@w7brs.com
Yup, and..
For liability reasons, I wouldn't share your bandwidth with another household. Who knows what they'll do with the connection. Download illegal stuff, share illegal stuff, etc.. It's just bad juju.
Make your SSID unpublished, run IPCop on a spare beige box, and use an AccessPoint not a dual router-hub.
-jeff
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Sebastian wrote:
Well for one thing, in stateside, it's usually against the rules of the ISP to share a connection with your neighbors.
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On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:59 -0800, Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote:
Make your SSID unpublished
Never ever do this. Ever. Or at least, if you do, remember to turn SSID broadcast back on when you inevitably have connection problems.
run IPCop on a spare beige box, and use an
Overkill, unless you're sharing your 'net connection with other people and want to implement serious filtering
AccessPoint not a dual router-hub.
Normal wifi routers work Just Fine for most people's needs.
Gordon
Jeff you should instead check to see which channels the other wireless networks are set at, and then move your channel far away.
Been there done that, I think their all on auto, or something.
I've never understood this. Why not just split in for a fat, fat connection and then use *proper* wireless to share it out across a few houses?
I do this. Sometimes I just connect to one of the un-secured routers on the same channel.
Anyway I hope Mark got the info he needed....
73 Jeff kb2m
Not channel 1; head for channel 11! Channel 1 is inside the satellite subband.
But, be aware that some devices default to channel 10, for some odd reason I've never made sense of. In that case, you'll have to go to a low channel. It's much worse to be off by one channel than to be on the same one. If you're on the same channel (and configured properly), each device should cooperate and share the bandwidth. If you're off by one or two channels, you'll just be QRMing each other.
Greg KO6TH
From: w4as@bellsouth.net To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linksys routers and 2M "birdies"
Well for one thing, in stateside, it's usually against the rules of the ISP to share a connection with your neighbors.
However, I disagree with Jeff about increasing the power.
Jeff you should instead check to see which channels the other wireless networks are set at, and then move your channel far away. I've found most wireless routers use channel 6 as a default. It's usually a good idea to move to channel 1. Note that the frequency range of each channel actually includes part of the other channel(s); so you usually want to move up or down 3 channels from your neighbors if possible.
73 de W4AS Sebastian
On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:53 -0500, jeff kb2m wrote:
firmware to extend it's range, if needed. I will need this feature at my girlfriends house where she has a lot of neighbors competing for the wireless channels. I just bought one for her place for $46 at Wal- Mart today. When I get it installed , if needed, she will have a big signal.
I've never understood this. Why not just split in for a fat, fat connection and then use *proper* wireless to share it out across a few houses?
Gordon
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All of mine are quiet.
Running 2 wrt54gs v1.1, 2 wrt54gl v1.1, 1 wrt54gs v4, 1 wrt54g v6
I run mine from the same 12v supply I run my radio's on. No wallwarts, I figure I have to be saving alittle electricity that way, if nothing else.
Quoting "Mark L. Hammond" marklhammond@gmail.com:
Hello All,
I know this was discussed before, but I want to bring it up again.
Does anybody have a Linksys wireless router/4-port hub that does NOT make ugly noises around 145.870 MHz (and the satellite portion of 2M in general)?
I don't want a D-Link (bad previous experience), and I prefer Linksys; but I would consider some other brand.
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
-- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
No, but I have a Netgear RT-314 wired router that makes a lot of noise right around 145.810 -145.830.... I have to unplug it when the ISS goes over, if I want to hear anything.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark L. Hammond" marklhammond@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Linksys routers and 2M "birdies"
Hello All,
I know this was discussed before, but I want to bring it up again.
Does anybody have a Linksys wireless router/4-port hub that does NOT make ugly noises around 145.870 MHz (and the satellite portion of 2M in general)?
I don't want a D-Link (bad previous experience), and I prefer Linksys; but I would consider some other brand.
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
-- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Jeff Wandling W7BRS -
Mark L. Hammond -
Patrick Domack -
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