Thank you very much for the reply Once again sorry for any inconvenience I have caused I am fairly new to Satellite operation but have been reading the emails coming in. Concerning AO-51 and SO-50, procedures all this talk makes me a little scared to try them,without making a mistake. Thanks Howard VE4ISP

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven Arne Astrup" sastrup@online.no To: "'Howard Kowall'" hkowall@shaw.ca; "'AMSAT-BB@amsat.org'" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: SV: [amsat-bb] (no subject)

Seems to be working ok now!

73 de Sven LA6KJ

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Howard, Do not feel in the least intimidated at using any Satellite you are legally allowed to operate (had to put that in so you would not Try the Sirius Sats he heh) I too have been reading the missive from the so called elitist users who apparently never made a mistake, never ever did anything wrong and never jumped the gun on a call trying for a rare DX station... Trust me they have, I have, everyone has. the point is to learn from mistakes, Grow over time, and don't let the little stuff bother you overmuch. While I am not a Leo user and probably never will be, I doubt it the jamming (intentional or otherwise) is any worse on the Sats than it is on 20 meters trying for K5D. Bandwidth is not an issue regarding interference as K5D is only listening on one frequency on 20 meters...Trust me it took me a week on 20 meter with my vertical antenna and 100 watts to get in...

So while I hear the laments and the gnashing of teeth, the sat users are suffering as everyone else is over K5D and while I do commiserate with them, Think of what it would be like if everyone who could - tried the sats, they would be unusable... But lest we not wander to far, My humble advice is learn from your mistakes, and go forward with life and do not be intimidated by the elitist who have been licensed since Noah floated his ark, or is the most active op on the sats... Trust me they also have made their mistakes and need to forgive you yours.

DE KD1PE

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Kowall" hkowall@shaw.ca To: "AMSAT-BB@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Sven Arne Astrup" sastrup@online.no Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: (no subject)

Thank you very much for the reply Once again sorry for any inconvenience I have caused I am fairly new to Satellite operation

Well thanks to all that have replied I have made some Satellite contacts on SO-50 and AO-51 I just find it seems kind of fast,the operators just speed out there call and grid square and I am having trouble copying it Even when I tell the to repeat it (which I don't really want to do because it takes up Sat time)they still fire it off way to fast(maybe I am not as young as I used to be)I just want to get some experience under my belt so I can try the U/L ssb Sats then maybe some of the dig Sats I have just joined Amsat and have found allot of info there,so I felt joining was a good idea and also to support them . Hope to have a qso with some of you,have to wait till it gets warmer out to put my antennas up,just finished building and testing my rotor controller,and have now got a good hang of SatPc32.I found that a rig only half duplex is a bit of a pain,so I am not able to hear myself on the down link,I will have to make arrangements with someone on calibrating the correct tuning with a half duplex rig on AO-7 Thanks to all who took an interest in my email. Howard VE4ISP Don't have my Amsat # yet sorry I guess it come in the mail Also how do you get into the members section?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Cavanaugh" seanc@unixgeeks.ca To: "Howard Kowall" hkowall@shaw.ca Cc: "AMSAT-BB@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: (no subject)

As someone who recently started working sats myself, I can only say try it. I was nervous the first time I keyed up, but that went away pretty quickly, and now I have a great time on the satellites.

Plus I need a VE4 QSO. ;)

-- Sean - VA5LF

Howard Kowall wrote:

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Thank you very much for the reply Once again sorry for any inconvenience I have caused I am fairly new to Satellite operation but have been reading the emails coming in. Concerning AO-51 and SO-50, procedures all this talk makes me a little scared to try them,without making a mistake. Thanks Howard VE4ISP

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven Arne Astrup" sastrup@online.no To: "'Howard Kowall'" hkowall@shaw.ca; "'AMSAT-BB@amsat.org'" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: SV: [amsat-bb] (no subject)

Seems to be working ok now!

73 de Sven LA6KJ

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Hi Howard,

I don't even try to copy my contacts right now. I started working the Sats last year. Worked them about a month, suffered a hard drive crash loosing my log. Just got things back. I use a recorder to record my contacts then play that back and make my notes. I had a digital recorder but after a year of not using it I can't find it. I'm using an old cassette tape recorder until I can buy another one.

As for the members section. I think you are referring to the members section on the amsat.org web site? I could be wrong, usually am my wife tells me, but I think it's not fully online yet.

73, Kent

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 17:40, Howard Kowall hkowall@shaw.ca wrote:

Well thanks to all that have replied I have made some Satellite contacts on SO-50 and AO-51 I just find it seems kind of fast,the operators just speed out there call and grid square and I am having trouble copying it Even when I tell the to repeat it (which I don't really want to do because it takes up Sat time)they still fire it off way to fast(maybe I am not as young as I used to be)I just want to get some experience under my belt so I can try the U/L ssb Sats then maybe some of the dig Sats I have just joined Amsat and have found allot of info there,so I felt joining was a good idea and also to support them . Hope to have a qso with some of you,have to wait till it gets warmer out to put my antennas up,just finished building and testing my rotor controller,and have now got a good hang of SatPc32.I found that a rig only half duplex is a bit of a pain,so I am not able to hear myself on the down link,I will have to make arrangements with someone on calibrating the correct tuning with a half duplex rig on AO-7 Thanks to all who took an interest in my email. Howard VE4ISP Don't have my Amsat # yet sorry I guess it come in the mail Also how do you get into the members section??