Fo29 retransmitting AO73 Data !
It was very interesting and exciting at 13:58 utc this morning to hear A073 data coming over Fo29 .Both birds were over Quebec Canada at the time, A073 was transmitting on 145.937 , Fo29 was receiving and retransmitting it on 435.863 mhz.It only lasted a minute or so.I have only heard this one other time.
jeff broughton WB8RJY
Now you have to try decoding it! I got 9 frames of data from a recording of AO-73 via FO-29 once.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:07 AM, jeffory broughton jefforybroughton@gmail.com wrote:
It was very interesting and exciting at 13:58 utc this morning to hear A073 data coming over Fo29 .Both birds were over Quebec Canada at the time, A073 was transmitting on 145.937 , Fo29 was receiving and retransmitting it on 435.863 mhz.It only lasted a minute or so.I have only heard this one other time.
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YES! very fun project. I caught the same pass Paul is referring to, we only got 7 frames :-( here at VT. The fun (and proud) part for me was it was all part of a undergraduate class project for the satellite communications course where the students had to simulate the orbits (using STK), predict pass windows where the crosslink was possible (line of sight from AO73 to FO-29 and LOS from FO-29 to VTGS), then for each pass window do a link budget computation for each 1 second timestep of the established chain event, and do a doppler curve estimation.
The proud part was that two of my students (undergrads) were dead on with their predictions, and were present during the decoding event and therefore got a half letter grade bump on their project grade since we successfully demodulated packets based on their simulations and predictions (not only did they pick a good window with a higher chance of success, their doppler curve matched nearly perfectly, allowing us to tune correctly to decode the packets).
The magic part that folks should keep an eye out for is trying to make the attempt when AO-73 is in sunlight since you get a 10 dB bump in output power from AO-73 in the beacon. That was also a great teaching moment during the attempt where we could see the signal drifting (up in frequency since AO73 and FO29 were closing on each other, not down like you might expect with normal doppler) in the spectrum display, but barely breaking the noise floor, then all of a sudden there is this 10 dB jump in SNR (AO-73 coming out of shadow and into sunlight) and packets start decoding!
very fun project, very hands on for the students. Do some research, develop a simulation, synthesize something meaningful about the real world from the simulation, try it in the real world, and then explain what worked and what didn't and why, but with actual satellites in orbit!
Also, they used the free version of STK in the class project and then wrote scripts in python to process CSV data generated by STK, so all of this is simulation stuff is doable by hams with completely free software and tools.
One of my all time favorite student projects......brought to you by the fabulous folks at AMSAT, in this case our japanese (FO29) and english (AO73) brethren!
-Zach
Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
On 2/10/2017 9:10 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
Now you have to try decoding it! I got 9 frames of data from a recording of AO-73 via FO-29 once.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:07 AM, jeffory broughton jefforybroughton@gmail.com wrote:
It was very interesting and exciting at 13:58 utc this morning to hear A073 data coming over Fo29 .Both birds were over Quebec Canada at the time, A073 was transmitting on 145.937 , Fo29 was receiving and retransmitting it on 435.863 mhz.It only lasted a minute or so.I have only heard this one other time.
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jeffory broughton
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Paul Stoetzer
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Zach Leffke