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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Kenneth Ernandes 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

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Economist article
by Alan Bloom 16 Dec '10

16 Dec '10

Attached is an interesting article from the latest Economist magazine. Shame they didn't mention the amateur radio involvement in developing the cubesat concept. Al N1AL

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Notes from last summer's Rideshare Conference
by Daniel Schultz 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

As the annual meeting fast approaches I am finally motivated to write up my notes and random thoughts from the Rideshare Conference in Chantilly, Virginia last summer. These are my thoughts only and no one else should be blamed for them. Someone at the meeting said that the Rideshare Conference is the "Small Satellite Conference for adults." Amsat wants to launch high altitude satellites with sophisticated communications payloads which require larger than a Cubesat sized spacecraft. We cannot afford to pay market rates for a launch. We want to launch an ongoing series of Eagle satellites, not just one time only, to build a redundant constellation of satellites. The main thing I got from the conference is that the Department of Defense intends to fly an ESPA (EELV Secondary Payload Adapter) ring on every DOD flight that has excess lift capacity. I was told by a representative of one of the EELV contractors that if the Primary Customer says to do it, they will absorb integration costs for secondary payloads. If the right official orders it, it will happen. The DOD Space Test Program has been limited to payloads of military significance. The ESPA ring can carry six Eagle sized satellites, and there was mention of plans to mount Cubesat P-Pod dispensers inside the ESPA launch ring so that Cubesats can be ejected through the empty clamp bands after the first six secondary satellites are deployed. A single ESPA could deploy six large satellites followed by six 6U Cubesats or twelve 3U Cubesats. If all of this actually happens, there will be dozens of launch opportunities for small satellites on DOD missions. If we can ask them to open up the DOD Space Test Program to non-defense payloads that serve an educational or public service mission we could fly on some of these missions. The NASA Get Away Special program provided shuttle launches at far below market price in order to support access to space for small organizations. We need to persuade DOD to use the ESPA capability to provide the same capability for educational and non profit organizations. In 1961, how did we get Oscar 1 onboard the Discoverer/Corona mission? Are there any old timers from that era who can enlighten us? Some people in Project Oscar worked for Lockheed Missiles and Space, the prime contractor for the Agena/Corona satellite, in their day jobs. No universities were building satellites in 1961 (except for the University of Iowa of course). Somewhere some Air Force general approved the launch of Oscar 1. I wish we had more information about how the Project Oscar guys got him to do that. We need to do something similar today. Perhaps we can market the idea to Congressional staff in Washington if nothing else works. Emergency communications has not been a selling point to get funding. The emergency authorities want to fund a system that is in-house and under their administration. It is nice that the hams are available to help out in a crisis but nobody is going to pay for that ahead of time. They can't tell their superiors that the emergency plan involves dependence on amateur volunteers to come forward in time of need. Everyone in the space business is pushing Education and Public Outreach. Even the super secret NRO has a (rather horrible) student outreach web site. NASA has contributed significant resources to ham radio through the SAREX and ARISS programs, motivated primarily by educational and public outreach. We are excellent at doing public outreach and should market that capability more heavily and to other agencies. Amsat can and should involve universities and students but it must be advertised as an Amsat-led mission and not as a university mission. AO-40 was done in that manner. We must get credit for our work or else we do not exist. Universities have full time public affairs offices to make sure that they get credit for everything they do. Amsat must be equally aggressive in getting credit for its missions. We also have a history of cooperation with Goddard Space Flight Center, most recently with the GPS experiment on AO-40. We need to explore other opportunities for cooperation. Amsat can provide a world wide network of hams for telemetry collection, command uplink stations on three continents, and support their educational and public outreach requirements. We also gave the world Jan King, Martin Sweeting and (add your own choice of names) who went on to contribute greatly to the small satellite universe. We support education from kindergarten through graduate school and also provide outside-the-box hands-on experience for working professionals. The Cubesats are being launched from a P-pod capsule, which contains the entire Cubesat and decouples the satellite from the launch vehicle. Even if a Cubesat vibrates to pieces during launch, the P-pod will contain the fragments and protect the primary satellite. Individual Cubesats do not need the same level of strict qualification testing and they are essentially interchangeable even at the last minute. They follow standard processes, and provide standard services. Someone at the conference called it the "world's most expensive jack-in-the-box". The launch vehicle can manifest Cubesats without knowing exactly which cubesats will fly on that mission. If Amsat can develop a standard 50 kg spacecraft for the ESPA ring, do the launch qualification, and offer it to others as a carrier for small science experiments which need more volume and space than a Cubesat, providing standard processes and standard services, we could end up with a continuous series of satellite launches in the process. We developed and qualified the SBS structure for AO-40 on the Ariane V vehicle which has been reused several times since then. Electric propulsion is a safe and practical way to reach a desirable orbit from whatever initial launch we can get. We can also correct any AO-13 type instabilities and provide for end of life disposal to satisfy FCC and launch authority requirements on orbital debris disposal. Amsat needs to acquire the use of this technology on an ongoing basis. The Rideshare conference was all about government agencies, universities, and large and small corporations. Where does Amsat fit into this world? They expressed a goal of having regular, cost effective rideshares, and to this end they want to form a working group to coordinate integration requirements and avoid unnecessary duplication of effort. Can Amsat be a part of this working group? Dan Schultz N8FGV

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Paper submissions needed for Symposium
by Daniel Schultz 10 Aug '10

10 Aug '10

As of August 2, JoAnne had only seven papers submitted for the symposium. Please help us shake the trees and bushes to ask the usual suspects to get their paper proposals to JoAnne as soon as possible, or else the Symposium will be a very short one this year. We will not be able to hold the print shop deadline open as late as we did last year because of the need to ship the books to Chicago. Dan Schultz N8FGV

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SK: Mario Acuña, LU9HBG
by Tom Clark, K3IO 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

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Third call for papers for Amsat Symposium- Time grows short!
by Daniel Schultz 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

These are all of the symposium paper proposals received to date: AO-7’s Solar Array Power After 35 Years In Orbit James A. DeYoung Amateur radio on the ISS Will Marchant Software Radio Technology on SuitSat-2 Anthony Monteiro A Linear U/V Transponder for SuitSat2 Bill Ress Using AO-51 Telemetry to Optimize a Successor Robert Davis AMSAT Eagle Geostationary Platform Educational Opportunities JoAnne Maenpaa Mayan Observations of Venus Martin Davidoff CubeSat Data Analysis Software Sebastian De Angelis University of Hawaii at Manoa We need many more papers to have a full conference and we need them soon. I am asking all active Amsat leadership and technical personnel to please step forward NOW and get me some more paper proposals. If not then we can hold the symposium in about 4 hours on Saturday afternoon and then send everybody home. Since the subject of launch opportunities is driving most of what Amsat can do in the near future, I propose that this be one of the major themes for this year's symposium. Papers on possible cooperative projects with other space organizations would also be relevant. You might also consider doing a tutorial session on some technical subject that you are an expert on for the education of the rest of us. I may be moving to a new job in the fall so please don't count on me being able to edit a large number of papers on the night before the print shop deadline. Please try to get them in sooner than the deadline, sometime in mid-September (exact date TBD but don't push your luck). Dan Schultz N8FGV

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[Fwd: ANSYS 12.0 North America Seminar Series: Smart Engineering Simulation]
by Tom Clark, K3IO 08 May '09

08 May '09

FYI -- AMSAT is a licensee of the ANSOFT software, so you might be interested in these seminars. If you have trouble with Email, check https://www.ansoft.com/news/mailer/090508/index.html -- Tom

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[Fwd: HFSS Training, Burlington MA, April 16-17 and May 7-8]
by Tom Clark, K3IO 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

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5GHZ 1 Watt Transceiver ~ $100
by JoAnne Maenpaa 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

Hello Everyone, I ran across this item via the news shorts on the front page of qrz.com. The Wisconsin Amateur Radio Club is deploying a 5.6 GHz - 5.825 GHz high speed digital network in southeast Wisconsin. They say a 5 GHz 1 watt transceiver will be available for less than $100, enclosed in a waterproof tube that mounts directly to the antenna. http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/WIARC.pdf -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org Editor, AMSAT News Service Copy Editor, AMSAT Journal

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Fw: SPACEX FALCON 9 UPPER STAGE ENGINE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES FULL MISSION DURATION FIRING
by Bill Tynan 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

I though you might be interested in this. 73, Bill Tynan, W3XO Charter Life Member 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:39:49 -0400 From: news(a)spacex.com To: francis223(a)hotmail.com Subject: SPACEX FALCON 9 UPPER STAGE ENGINE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES FULL MISSION DURATION FIRING FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Emily Shanklin | Director, Marketing and Communications media(a)SpaceX.com 310.363.6733 SPACEX FALCON 9 UPPER STAGE ENGINE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES FULL MISSION DURATION FIRING -------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Merlin Vacuum engine demonstrates highest efficiency for an American hydrocarbon rocket engine McGregor, TX – (March 09, 2009) – Space Exploration Technologies Corp (SpaceX) successfully conducted a full mission duration firing of its new Merlin Vacuum engine on March 7, at SpaceX's Test Facility in McGregor, Texas. The engine fired for a full six minutes, consuming 100,000 pounds of liquid oxygen and rocket grade kerosene propellant. The new engine, which powers the upper stage of SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch vehicle, demonstrated a vacuum specific impulse of 342 seconds – the highest efficiency ever for an American hydrocarbon rocket engine. Thrust was measured at approximately 92,500 lb of force in vacuum conditions and the engine remained thermally stable over the entire run. "Specific impulse, or Isp, indicates how efficiently a rocket engine converts propellant into thrust," said Tom Mueller, Vice President of Propulsion for SpaceX. "With a vacuum Isp of 342 seconds, the new Merlin Vacuum engine has exceeded our requirements, setting a new standard for American hydrocarbon engine performance in space." Based on the Merlin 1C engine that boosted the SpaceX Falcon 1 rocket to orbit in 2008, the Merlin Vacuum engine uses a regeneratively cooled combustion chamber. However, the vacuum engine features a larger exhaust section than the Merlin 1C and a much larger radiatively cooled expansion nozzle, in order to maximize performance in the vacuum of space. The Merlin Vacuum engine provides the final push that delivers customer spacecraft into their desired orbits. A redundant ignition system ensures the engine can shut down and restart multiple times. The engine can also operate at a reduced thrust to achieve optimum performance. During recent tests, the engine was successfully throttled down to 75 percent of maximum thrust, and upcoming tests will demonstrate throttling to approximately 60 percent of maximum thrust. "Falcon 9 was designed from the ground up to provide our customers with breakthrough advances in reliability," said Elon Musk, CEO and CTO of SpaceX. "In successfully adapting our flight tested first stage engine for use on the second stage, this recent test further validates the architecture of Falcon 9, designed to provide customers with high reliability at a fraction of traditional costs." SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon spacecraft were recently selected by NASA to resupply cargo to the International Space Station after the shuttle retires in 2010. The inaugural flight of Falcon 9 is scheduled for later this year from SpaceX's launch pad SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral, Florida. About SpaceX SpaceX is revolutionizing access to space by developing a family of launch vehicles and spacecraft intended to increase the reliability and reduce the cost of both manned and unmanned space transportation, ultimately by a factor of ten. With its Falcon line of launch vehicles, powered by internally-developed Merlin engines, SpaceX offers light, medium and heavy lift capabilities to deliver spacecraft into any altitude and inclination, from low-Earth to geosynchronous orbit to planetary missions. On September 28, 2008, Falcon 1, designed and manufactured from the ground up by SpaceX, became the first privately developed liquid fuel rocket to orbit the Earth, demonstrating that low cost and reliability can be coupled in commercial spaceflight. As a winner of the NASA Commercial Orbital Transportation Services competition (COTS), SpaceX is in a position to help fill the gap in American spaceflight to the International Space Station (ISS) when the Space Shuttle retires in 2010. Under the existing Agreement, SpaceX will conduct three flights of its Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon spacecraft for NASA, culminating in Dragon berthing with the ISS. SpaceX is the only COTS contender with the capability to return cargo and crew to Earth. NASA also has an option to demonstrate crew services to the ISS using the Falcon 9 / Dragon system. NASA recently selected the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon spacecraft for the International Space Station Cargo Resupply Services (CRS) contract award. The contract includes 12 flights between 2010 and 2015, which represents a guaranteed minimum of 20,000 kg to be carried to the International Space Station. Founded in 2002, the SpaceX team now numbers more than 620 full time employees, located primarily in Hawthorne, California, with additional locations, including SpaceX's Texas Test Facility in McGregor near Waco; offices in Washington DC; and launch facilities at Cape Canaveral, Florida, and the Marshall Islands in the Central Pacific. A new video tour of SpaceX’s Texas Test Site conducted by Tom Mueller, VP of Propulsion can be viewed here. Photo Caption: The new SpaceX Merlin Vacuum second stage engine undergoing a mission-length test firing at the SpaceX Test Facility in McGregor, Texas. The engine will power the upper stage on the inaugural flight of the new Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral, Florida, scheduled for later this year. Credit: SpaceX. Photo Caption: Illustration of the new SpaceX Merlin Vacuum second stage engine in action. The large expansion nozzle increases the engine's performance in the vacuum of space. Credit: SpaceX. You are subscribed as francis223(a)hotmail.com. To unsubscribe please click here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out.

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Live Webinar: Building Battery Arrays with Lithium-Ion Cells -- Mar.4
by Tom Clark, K3IO 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

This "webinar" on Li-ion battery arrays on March 4th may be of interest to folks interested in battery technology -- Tom

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Satellites in collision; Satellites gone astray; ZS1BI in the news
by Tom Clark, K3IO 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

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ISRO Satellite Problem - Just FYI
by JoAnne Maenpaa 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

As we all know, it happens to the Pro's too . http://www.spacemart.com/reports/ISRO_Built_Satellite_Fails_After_Five_Weeks _999.html -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org

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Space-X presentation at NASA Goddard on Monday
by Daniel Schultz 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Monday's Goddard Engineering Colloquium will feature Mr. Steve Davis, Lead Systems Engineer for the Space-X Dragon spacecraft. (Elon Musk apparently had to cancel and sent Steve instead). If any local Amsat people would like to attend, (and maybe beg him for a free satellite launch) please get in touch with me or Pat Kilroy. You will need one of us to escort you through Goddard security. I will not be at my normal work location on Monday, so call me at home before Sunday night at 301-879-8377, or call Pat at work on Monday at 301-286-1984. This offer is regrettably limited to US citizens. Dan Schultz N8FGV ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland 20771 ENGINEERING COLLOQUIUM Monday, December 15, 2008 / 3:30 PM, Building 3 Auditorium Steve Davis "Falcons and Dragons: Economical Liftoffs for Science Payloads, Cargo, and People" ABSTRACT -- A new vehicle for small payloads, the Falcon, was successfully launched in September. Designed for cost efficiency and reliability, the Falcon series of spacecraft can provide an affordable option for science and engineering researchers to get their payloads to orbit, either LEO or, with the Falcon 9, geo-synchronous. In addition to describing the Falcon spacecraft, the speaker will describe the Dragon. The Dragon spacecraft is made up of a pressurized capsule and unpressurized trunk used for Earth to LEO transport of pressurized cargo, unpressurized cargo, and/or crew members. Initiated internally by Space Exploration Technologies Corporation (SpaceX) in 2005, Dragon will be utilized to fulfill a NASA COTS contract for demonstration of cargo re-supply of the ISS. SPEAKER -- Mr. Davis of Space Exploration Technologies Corporation (SpaceX) (http://www.spacex.com) is Lead Systems Engineer for Dragon, a free-flying reusable spacecraft being developed under NASA's Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) program for the delivery of cargo and crew to the International Space Station (ISS). In this role, Davis is responsible for the technical management of 25 engineers, overall system and mission design, and interfacing with the ISS program to ensure ISS-Dragon compatibility. Prior to his role as Lead Systems Engineer on Dragon, Davis designed, analyzed and tested the guidance system for the SpaceX Falcon 1, the first privately-developed liquid fuel rocket to achieve Earth orbit.

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[Fwd: Inspiring Engineering Presentations Available]
by Tom Clark, K3IO 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

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Stack Monitor Chips Without Isolation Concerns To Give Your Electric Car Some Zip
by k3io＠verizon.net 25 Nov '08

25 Nov '08

k3io(a)verizon.net sent this article to you from Electronic Design's Web site. ---------- The LTC6802 looks like a very promising way to monitor all the battery cells in a series string. 73, Tom ---------- Stack Monitor Chips Without Isolation Concerns To Give Your Electric Car Some Zip http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/20026/20026.html ---------- For more articles and engineering resources, visit www.elecdesign.com

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AMSAT's World Class Software Toolkits
by Rick Hambly (W2GPS) 22 Nov '08

22 Nov '08

All, AMSAT has been maintaining a world class set of software tools for RF design, antenna design, schematic capture, PCB layout and auto-route, and FPGA/CPLD/etc. design. There are modules for special purpose applications like high speed signal PCB design, simulation and emulation. The capabilities are beyond want most of us could ever afford to touch if it were not for AMSAT. These tools have been updated with the latest revisions over the past week and new instructions have been prepared to help you find them. The purpose of making these tools available is EDUCATION. This is arguably AMSAT's most important mission. These tools are here for YOU to become better educated by learning and using these tools. The only restriction is that you use them only for AMSAT sponsored projects, one of which is YOUR EDUCATION, so go ahead and use them to design your new Ham Shack antenna, circuit board, or whatever. AMSAT sponsored projects include ARISS, TAPR and HPSDR projects and may include others in the future. The most important limitation is that these tools are not to be used for personal commercial gain or on projects that are not sponsored by AMSAT. So do not share the registration information with non-members unless specifically authorized by the AMSAT President or his delegated authority. Attached are the instructions for getting the tools. The licenses are controlled by a central server so you must be connected to the Internet to use these tools. There are limits on the number of simultaneous users permitted by each license, some as low as two at a time, others as high as 20 at a time. I don't expect that to be a problem. These tools are worth many hundreds of thousands of dollars, so what is the hitch? Any one suite of tools (sometimes called a "flow") is a major personal commitment to learn. For that reason I recommend locating the various Webcasts that are available and teaming up with a partner. Why would AMSAT put you through all this pain? Because AMSAT needs people who know how to use these tools to design the next generation satellites. Rick W2GPS

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Elon Musk will visit Goddard on December 15
by Daniel Schultz 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Elon Musk of SpaceX will visit Goddard and deliver the 3:30 Monday afternoon Engineering Colloquium on December 15. The title is "Falcons and Dragons: Economical Liftoffs for Science Payloads, Cargo, and People". There may be an informal opportunity to talk to him after the colloquium, but if you want a more formal meeting we can talk to the colloquium committee to see if something can be set up ahead of time. Dan Schultz

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Visualizing Geosynchronous Coverage
by JoAnne Maenpaa 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Good morning everyone, This is probably old news for those who have studied the topic. The web page below gives you a chance to visualize your coverage from various geostationary orbital slots: http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite-maps.htm. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org Editor, AMSAT News Service Copy Editor, AMSAT Journal

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AMSAT's History
by Tom Clark, K3IO 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

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National Interoperability Field Operations Guide
by JoAnne Maenpaa 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

Hello everyone, Here is a bit of reference material for study and storage in our archive for future access. We've discussed off and on about radio interoperability opportunities that AMSAT may present for amateur radio emergency communications. Below is a link to the National Interoperability Field Operations Guide v1.2 published by US DHS, Office of Emergency Communications. This covers national terrestrial radio planning. http://www.npstc.org/documents/NIFOG%20v1.2%204-14-2008.pdf -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org Editor, AMSAT News Service Copy Editor, AMSAT Journal

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healing cosmic ray damage to FPGA
by Bob McGwier 17 Oct '08

17 Oct '08

http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/m/pub/1005h/1005%20(Thompson,%20S).pdf

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[Fwd: Attend The Can't-Miss Power Design Conference: No Travel Required]
by Tom Clark, K3IO 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

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Falcon 1 successful
by Bob McGwier 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Falcon 1 successfully made it to orbit today. http://www.spacex.com/ Falcon 9 Heavy will be a 12000 Kg to GTO launcher and will almost certainly have test flights. http://www.spacex.com/falcon9_heavy.php and it pays to have friends: http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Jeff_Ward_To_Head_Up_Avionics_Guidance_A nd_Control_At_SpaceX_999.html Bob N4HY ARRL SDR Working Group Chair Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. "Trample the slow .... Hurdle the dead"

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Re: ITAR BS
by Daniel Schultz 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

NASA is NOT exempt from ITAR. Most of the documents I handle for work are now marked "US export controlled". Why do you think I haven't given any Hubble talks at recent Amsat meetings? NASA has to jump through the same legal hoops as everyone else, but they have lawyers on the payroll already so it is not a big burden. NASA's budget for photocopy paper is many times larger than Amsat's total budget. Amsat is not the only outfit affected by ITAR, a lot of small businesses are being shut down by an inability to export their products. It is their complaints that have attracted the attention of the Obama campaign, whose space policy states that: "Revising Regulations for Aerospace Export Control: Some sections of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) have unduly hampered the competitiveness of domestic aerospace industry. Outdated restrictions have cost billions of dollars to American satellite and space hardware manufacturers as customers have decided to purchase equipment from European suppliers. While protecting our national security interests, Barack Obama will direct a review of the ITAR to reevaluate restrictions imposed on American companies, with a special focus on space hardware that is currently restricted from commercial export. He will also direct revisions to the licensing process to ensure that American suppliers are competitive in the international aerospace markets, without jeopardizing American national security." McCain has not made any such statements in his space policy, but those who support his campaign should get in touch with him and try to get it added on. We should be making complaints to elected representatives about how our organization is being affected by ITAR. Our organization is sufficiently different from commercial for-profit companies that our specific needs should be considered along with those of small business, in particular our desire to conduct the project in "open-source" mode. If I understand correctly, if the IHU3 was an engine control computer for a car, it would be OK to work with the Germans, but since it is designed to go into a satellite, it is forbidden to share it with foreigners. Very Strange. While we are sorting this out, keep in mind that this subject WILL come up at the Symposium/Annual Meeting next month. We better have a good presentation for the membership at that time. If you want to print anything in the published proceedings, I will need your material by the end of September. Dan Schultz N8FGV ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:37:28 PM EDT From: Louis McFadin <w5did(a)amsat.org> To: Chuck Green <greencl(a)mindspring.com>Cc: "'EAGLE'" <eagle(a)amsat.org> Subject: [eagle] Re: ITAR BS > Chuck, > I would like to point out that any work on ARISS is exempt since it is > a government activity NASA. > You are free to help ARISS all you want. >

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