Jim,

I just got off the phone with Graham Shirville in England. He, Howard Long
and others have been taking note of the controversy on amsat-bb and want to
offer help, if it would be productive.

Based on that conversation and conversations with you and Bob, I would like
to make a revised proposal for consideration by the Eagle team.

a) Move C-C Rider's primary uplink to the S2-band (3400-3410 MHz) with some
modest additional uplink capability on L-band (1260-1270 MHz).

b) Add another separate SDX transponder for mode L/S, essentially identical
to the U/S SDX transponder. This transponder would use fixed antennas and so
will be usable only at apogee. It would also serve as a backup command and
control access to the IHU. By being separate it would reduce the risk of
common component failures. 

Graham will inquire of the local authorities in England about getting
matching Amateur Satellite status for their S2 band. 

Graham will come to San Francisco prepared to discuss an evolving
comprehensive plan to petition the ITU for additional Amateur Satellite
frequency allocations. He will need our help with this and we will need
ARRL's help as our ITU representative.

Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232
 
-----Original Message-----
From: eagle-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:eagle-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of
Jim Sanford
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:35 PM
To: Lyle Johnson
Cc: EAGLE
Subject: [eagle] Re: Team Speak tomorrow night

Lyle:
Per my notes, we did NOT kill the L uplinkfor SDX.  We DID decide not to 
use it for the digital package.

We need to decide on whether or not there will be an L-uplink for the 
narrow band package or a dedicated L/S TSFR package.

I'd like to at least discuss, and maybe decide whethe or not to fly an L 
uplink on the command/analog channel.  Bob and Rick are proposing 
OFFERING a L/S package to be developed by others and flown in a TSFR 
space if it qualilfies.  I see this as no cost, huge gain in both 
perceptions and capability.

Please join tomorrow and comment.  I want to hear your thoughts!

Thanks & 73,
Jim
wb4gcs@amsat.org


Lyle Johnson wrote:

  

            We offer that anyone willing can develop and submit for 
testing and qualification a stand-alone L/S transponder to fly in 
one of the TSFR slots, using fixed antennas.  It would be usable 
at/near Apogee, like the microwave packages on AO-13 and A)-40.  
What do you think?  Les's discuss this.
 

        

Bad idea.  We discussed having ONE SDX transponder and ONE digital 
communications payload.  If for some reason it is decided that the 
DCP is on neither S1 nor L (which itself would be a bad idea...), AND 
it was decided that there was a desire for old-style transponders on 
L/S, then it makes sense to build it as part of the SDX, and not have 
a THIRD payload.
      

Like Matt, I am not in favor of this.  We need to design the system 
for services, not design the spacecraft as a bus for a collection of 
modules.

I recall two SDX payloads, but I'm old and my memory is failing.  The 
Eagle block diagram from Oct 2005 shows a pair of SDX modules, and the 
SDX block diagram shows a U and an L uplink, an S1 and a V downlink.  
Of course, at that time the digital payload was to be C/C.

Did we decide to kill the L uplink for SDX/analog use in San Diego?  I 
recall that we decided to not use an L uplink for the digital system.

73,

Lyle KK7P


    

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