Phil,
You comments are excellent and are well taken.
As you say this has to be managed. One of the ways we planned to manage the system is to have deadbands on the buss voltage. Another way is to have a simple way that the units can communicate to each other as to their state. I have also been thinking of using a common system such as the IHU to send out a number which is it's opinion as to the voltage of the bus. That way all units on the line would have a value to check against their measurement. That would provide a reference for all to use. Of course this needs to be discussed more to flush out various situations.
I am planning to bring a small team together to put together an interface specification or protocol for this power system. Perhaps you could participate on that team and lend your valuable expertise and experience.

I will be traveling the rest of today.


Lou McFadin
W5DID
w5did@mac.com


On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Phil Karn wrote:

Jim Sanford wrote:

The situation you describe regarding load sharing between multiple 
parallel sources, without oscillations and circulating currents, is no 
different than the situation where there are multiple AC generators 
operating in parallel.  In that case, the speed governor (which sets 
frequency) has a frequency vs load characteristic that is not flat.  
This forces stable real load sharing, even when generators of different 
capacity are paralleled.  Similarly, the voltage regulator has a 
non-flat voltage vs. reactive load characteristic.  This forces stable 
sharing of reactive load.

I'm not sure this is the exact same situation. A generator is not a 
stored energy device (ignoring flywheel effects). It can't produce more 
electrical power out than the mechanical power going in. A battery or 
cap, on the other hand, can produce almost arbitrarily large powers 
until it is depleted.

I agree, this is all manageable.

My thoughts on this comes from experience with related problems in home 
photovoltaic power systems.

In the late 1990s, the Trace SW4048/5548 inverter models were very 
popular. These 4/5.5 kVA inverters are bidirectional; power can flow 
from the AC side to the 48V DC side as well as from the DC side to the 
AC side. This is useful in maintaining a battery bank at a constant 
voltage despite varying PV production and DC load, but it also led to 
problems in systems with more than one unit.

Two inverters are commonly used in larger (e.g., 5kW) grid-tied systems. 
They were typically wired in parallel on the DC side and connected to 
opposite 120V phases on the AC side.

Even if you set both inverters to the same "sell" voltage on their DC 
side, small differences in their internal voltage references often 
result in very different inverter power levels. You could even see one 
inverter "buying" (converting AC to DC) while the other "sold" 
(converting DC to AC), obviously a wasteful situation. This problem 
could have been easily avoided with a small dead band around the DC 
operating setpoint. This could also shut down the inverter at night, 
avoiding its idle power consumption.

Another problem comes from the use of a PV charge controller with this 
inverter. In a grid tied PV system, the charge controller is basically a 
safety device that protects the battery against an inverter or grid 
failure. Normally you always want maximum power from the PV array 
because the grid is an infinite energy sink and we can sell whatever we 
produce. During an outage or failure, though, we have to back off PV 
production to match local consumption. It does this whenever the battery 
bus voltage rises above a set point.

But the inverter is also trying to control the DC bus voltage. If you 
don't set them both up carefully, the charge controller could shut down 
the array unnecessarily. Again, an inverter dead band would have been 
very useful.

The bottom line is that all the devices on the DC bus must somehow 
coordinate their operation. If they communicate implicitly through DC 
bus voltage, then they need to agree on just what is meant by every 
possible value of bus voltage.

--Phil


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