Hi bob- You must live in a bad area. My fellow amateurs always quieted down when they heard an astronaut calling someone. Seems like you and NASA are pretty set in your ways. Dont you think its time to let some others have their way with the space program? I remeber an joke I heard years ago; NASA spent a million dollars to develop a pen that would write in zero gravity...... the russians used pencils. I see no open-mindedness here. pat
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Robert Bruninga wrote:
Hello again- the astronauts will hear everyone calling whether its split or simplex operation so why not make it
simplex!
Because many of us live near inconsiderate operators that step all Over the downlink by transmitting on the uplink. Simplex is just not a good idea. The downlink should be separate from the uplink so that everyone can hear the downlink without interfererence from uplink stations.
Bob
-----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org [mailto:sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf Of McGrane Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:43 PM To: Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR] Ransom; bruninga@usna.edu Cc: Manned space BBS Subject: [sarex] Re: further late reply regarding ISS simplex
Hello again- the astronauts will hear everyone calling whether its split or simplex operation so why not make it
simplex!
pat
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR] wrote:
It sounds like your issue is not that split frequencies are
bad but
that multiple uplinks makes it difficult for the crew to
listen to one
uplink. ITU region regulations for ground station
operations are the
culprit. Space has no borders but Earth does so have of the
problem is
getting everyone to agree on a single uplink. Not everyone
in the
world has the same frequency allocations nor do they use
the available
spectrum in their region the same way.
The issue is not the 20-30 miles but the number of callers
in the 2000
km wide footprint. The station has to listen to all of
them. Since you
can't hear all of them, it becomes difficult to know when
someone is
talking or not without guidance from the station operator.
In the MIR days, the crew did not have the luxury of near
full time
satellite communication that provides voice, email
communication and
an IP phone that lets them make phone calls. If the MIR
crew wanted to
talk to someone, they needed to use the ham radio or the
Russian VHF
space to ground system. The ISS crew has plenty of options
to choose
from when they want to communicate and it depends on the
personality
of the crew as to which ones get utilized.
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org
[mailto:sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org] On
Behalf Of McGrane Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:43 PM To: Manned space BBS Subject: [sarex] further late reply regarding ISS simplex
Greetings from patrick N2OEQ
Despite support of the present frequency scheme for the ISS
I still
wish to disagree with the policy of split operation with
different
phone uplinks.
Back when the MIR was up, the russians operated simplex and
left the
radio on to listen for callers. On several occasions, I called the MIR according to my
tracking
program and was rewarded several times with a response.
With two different uplink frequencies, the astronauts are
less
inclined to leave the radio on to listen for callers.
When there were several callers here on simplex responding
to a CQ
call from the MIR, we acted civilized and took turns and
everyone made
contacts so I dont buy the absolute need for split
operation.
Besides, how many callers could there be within 20 or 30
miles up to
the horizon.
We've had years of robot like amateur radio on the ISS. How
about
loosening the ties!
Thanks for the soapbox..... pat
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