Greetings from patrick n2oeq
Regarding my previous email about future modes, it seems every time I bring up a request or express an opinion, the packet crowd takes particular offense to my comments and reacts in an overly protective manner. To the ham in Maricopper county, youve had almost exclusive use of the iss gear for packet for quite a few years so dont be so upset about my request for crossband repeat. Sorry to ruffle feathers but I prefer to talk to humans instead of playing with computers. Without the ability to exchange mail with the crew, I'm uninterested.
Concerning the idea of using a subaudible tone, I thought that was constructive but what I am trying to do is appeal for a mode change.
To bob; the frequency idea was also constructive but I'm sure you wish to maintain control of the D700. Arent years enough? In my opinion , its time for a change or shared usage.
I assure everyone I'm not stupid; I realize the crew is busy so quite throwing that at me. What I am asking for is the use of cross-band repeat with the D700. Then we could talk to each other on the ground and like the past, maybe the crew will be listening and get on and say hello.
I'm making a request, not a demand, so spare me the heated replies.
On a social note, I believe amateur radio on the ISS is a great opportunity to promote world friendship. On a political note; Making war is easy, making peace is hard. Thats why I support ARISS.
Thanks for your comments but dont take it personally. 73, pat
Patrick...the D700 aboard the ISS is "broken" as in unable to do packet or crossband at this time or until it is "fixed"...additionally, I don't believe "mail" has been exchanged with the crew for years...as for crew contacts, as I count contacts, you have talked to ISS at least 3 times more than most people on this list.
In reference to crossband repeat, that is my favorite also...now to find a way to fix the D700 that performs this function ...if you have any constructive ideas along this line I'm sure the ARISS coordinators (not just Bob Bruninga)would love to hear from you directly...
This is not a "heated reply"...just reality.
Roger (haven't heard ISS packet in at least 2 months) WA1KAT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick McGrane" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:39 AM Subject: [sarex] ISS amateur radio Mode
Greetings from patrick n2oeq
Regarding my previous email about future modes, it seems every time I
bring up a request or express an opinion, the packet crowd takes particular offense to my comments and reacts in an overly protective manner...Sorry to ruffle feathers but I prefer to talk to humans instead of playing with computers. Without the ability to exchange mail with the crew, I'm uninterested.
Concerning the idea of using a subaudible tone, I thought that was
constructive but what I am trying to do is appeal for a mode change.
To bob; the frequency idea was also constructive but I'm sure you wish to
maintain control of the D700. Arent years enough? In my opinion , its time for a change or shared usage.
I assure everyone I'm not stupid; I realize the crew is busy so quite
throwing that at me. What I am asking for is the use of cross-band repeat with the D700. Then we could talk to each other on the ground and like the past, maybe the crew will be listening and get on and say hello.
I'm making a request, not a demand, so spare me the heated replies.
Also, according to a post right on this remailer about a week ago from Frank Bauer, it will be months or longer before any work is done to repair the D700. Ham radio is a very, very low priority. Here is that posting in case you missed it:
From: "Frank H. Bauer" [email protected] Subject: [sarex] ARISS Status Report April 24, 2007 X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 List-Id: SAREX Mailing List <sarex.AMSAT.Org> List-Unsubscribe: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex, mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://amsat.org/pipermail/sarex List-Post: mailto:[email protected] List-Help: mailto:[email protected]?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex, mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe Sender: [email protected] X-ELNK-Received-Info: spv=0; X-ELNK-AV: 0 X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=0b; sbw=000;
ISS Ham Radio Enthusiasts,
I wanted to provide a progress report on the ISS Ham Radio activities. And to address some questions that have come up related to ARISS operations and equipment upgrade and repair.
With the successful Shuttle return to flight, the International Space Station Program construction has moved into high gear with delivery and assembly of new ISS modules. If all goes well, the new European Columbus Module and Japanese Kibo module will be installed on ISS in the next 12 months. This substantial workload on the crew is impacting ARISS operations directly.
The launching of any new or replacement radios or computers has been significantly curtailed due to the extremely limited upmass capability. There are just too many higher priority activities from an international space agency perspective and frankly we are a lower priority. The extra workload on the crew has taken its toll on ARISS - they have had very little extra time for Amateur Radio activities beyond school contacts. This is somewhat frustrating to the general ham radio community and the ARISS International Team, though the team is pleased that the crew has been able to speak so often with youth groups worldwide, piquing their interest in Amateur Radio, science, technology, engineering and math.
The ARISS team had been hopeful that Charles Simonyi would have been able to restore the Kenwood D700 radio system to full functionality after an accidental reprogramming of the radio occurred near the end of Exp 13. The ARISS team worked diligently with the Simonyi team to get Charles licensed, trained, and prepared to perform the Kenwood reprogramming. Unfortunately, the ARISS team hit a major hurdle a few weeks before Charles' launch. We learned that additional software certification steps were required to allow the reprogramming software to be used on the ISS computers. Through heroic efforts by the team, final software certification was successfully completed. Unfortunately, this was completed only a few days before Charles' return from space. As a result, the ARISS team was informed by the mission control team and some of our international team partners that it there was insufficient time to allow Charles to complete the restoration. Thus, the Kenwood restoration was not completed by Charles. This last minute hiccup in software certification was not predictable. So there was no way the ARISS team could have better prepared for Charles' flight.
At this point in time, it appears that a full restoration will require a substantial, concerted effort with full cooperation from our international colleagues and the Russian and US space agencies. We need to make sure that all components necessary for a successful reprogramming are identified, purchased (if necessary), certified, tested and flown together before the radio will be fully restored. Realizing this will be especially challenging due to the upmass issue I described above. This will likely take several months to accomplish as the team will have to begin from square one. In the short term, requests for some investigative analysis by the crew will be made. This will enable the ARISS team to determine if the radio can be partially restored to provide some of the unattended operations that it once provided.
With Charles' successful landing, we have started down this new path. We will continue to keep you informed of our progress.
In closing, we are aggressively working this issue, despite several setbacks. While our plans to have Charles reprogram the radio were thwarted, we were happy that he could speak to so many hams around the world during his short stay. And capture the imagination of students around the globe.
On behalf of the ARISS team, we thank all of you for your interest and enthusiasm in Ham Radio on the ISS.
73, Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO ARISS International Chairman AMSAT-NA V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs
At 08:43 PM 5/1/2007, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
Patrick...the D700 aboard the ISS is "broken" as in unable to do packet or crossband at this time or until it is "fixed"...additionally, I don't believe "mail" has been exchanged with the crew for years...as for crew contacts, as I count contacts, you have talked to ISS at least 3 times more than most people on this list.
In reference to crossband repeat, that is my favorite also...now to find a way to fix the D700 that performs this function ...if you have any constructive ideas along this line I'm sure the ARISS coordinators (not just Bob Bruninga)would love to hear from you directly...
This is not a "heated reply"...just reality.
Roger (haven't heard ISS packet in at least 2 months) WA1KAT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick McGrane" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:39 AM Subject: [sarex] ISS amateur radio Mode
Greetings from patrick n2oeq
Regarding my previous email about future modes, it seems every time I
bring up a request or express an opinion, the packet crowd takes particular offense to my comments and reacts in an overly protective manner...Sorry to ruffle feathers but I prefer to talk to humans instead of playing with computers. Without the ability to exchange mail with the crew, I'm uninterested.
Concerning the idea of using a subaudible tone, I thought that was
constructive but what I am trying to do is appeal for a mode change.
To bob; the frequency idea was also constructive but I'm sure you wish to
maintain control of the D700. Arent years enough? In my opinion , its time for a change or shared usage.
I assure everyone I'm not stupid; I realize the crew is busy so quite
throwing that at me. What I am asking for is the use of cross-band repeat with the D700. Then we could talk to each other on the ground and like the past, maybe the crew will be listening and get on and say hello.
I'm making a request, not a demand, so spare me the heated replies.
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If there is an up mass problem here it seems there is none in europe as they rushing to get money not upmass capabilities?
Another odd event in the amateur space saga? Is it somewhat possible to have this stuff sent with columbus?
read below
The extra workload on the crew has taken its toll on ARISS - they have had very little extra time for Amateur Radio activities beyond school contacts. >
Realizing this will be especially challenging due to the upmass issue I described above. This will likely take several months to accomplish as the team will have to begin from square one. In the short term, requests for some investigative analysis by the crew will be made. This will enable the ARISS team to determine if the radio can be partially restored to provide some of the unattended operations that it once provided.
73, Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO ARISS International Chairman AMSAT-NA V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs
ARRL Foundation provides second donation to ARISS Columbus project (Apr 30, 2007) --
The ARRL Foundation has granted an additional $2000 toward the cost of constructing and installing Amateur Radio antennas and equipment on the International Space Station's Columbus module, set to launch later this year. Columbus will house an additional Amateur Radio station, including the first digital Amateur Radio TV (DATV) station in space as well as a ham radio transponder. Funding to finish and install ham radio antennas on the European Space Agency (ESA)-built laboratory module has been uncertain, however. Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Vice Chairman Gaston Bertels, ON4WF, says donations from various sources covered a payment of 9000 Euros (approximately $12,000) in March. A second payment is due this fall. The ARRL Foundation earlier contributed $5000 to the project. Other donations have come from AMSAT-NA and AMSAT-UK, among other organizations, as well as from many individual donors. The yet-to-be-built Columbus Amateur Radio gear will make it possible for ARISS to establish wideband and video operations for the first time and allow continuous transponder operation. AMSAT-Belgium has set up a bank account to receive additional donations for the Columbus project. Details are on the ARISS-EU Columbus Web page (if you have a PayPal account you can easily make a donation by clicking the "Donate" button in the left column).
Is it possible the left hand does not know what the right is doing?
"-" "It is not the class of license the amateur holds, but the class of the amateur that holds the license."
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
Gentlemen
We all love our hobby. But do not forget, ARISS is only a guest from NASA on ISS. We don't know the technical, bueraucratic and secure requirements to have 2, and in near future 3, HAM radio stations on the ISS. This is not self-evident. We know of the great efforts from the ARISS-Teams. Its time to say a big THANK YOU ! So be patient for the things and modes will come.
Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Best Regards, 73 Thomas Frey, HB9SKA ______________________________________________________________________
Thomas Frey, Holzgasse 2, CH-5242 Birr, Tel. + Fax: 056 444 93 41 http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/ Packet Radio (AX.25): HB9SKA @ HB9PD.CHE.EU
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