Re: Lets go back to simplex voice
Hi kenneth- please reread my message, if they hear us calling MAYBE they will answer, as it is they dont hear us to get interested, chicken and egg. Be the solution. Pat
------- Original Message ------- From : Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY][mailto:kenneth.g.ransom@nasa.gov] Sent : 8/10/2009 3:30:09 PM To : n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
What difference does simplex vs. split make if the crew doesn't want to answer? Activity
occurs regardless of frequency operation when a crew member shows interest in making contacts.
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org [ mailto:sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf Of Thomas McGrane Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:17 AM To: sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
Greetings from pat n2oeq, long island new york
I never agreed with the use of different uplink frequencies for ISS phone operation. It only led to a lack of activity and simple regimented school contacts.
I just tried calling the space station on two meters hoping they were listening but, as usual, no answer.
We need a simple simplex frequency like years ago when the crew of the MIR or the ISS could just leave the radio on and answer as they pleased. Many times in the past, I called according to the tracking program and received responses.
The old argument was that they wanted to operate split to avoid the confusion of a pileup. Well, I guess it worked because nobody talks any more!
Please return to a simplex frequency so we can enjoy working the astronauts and cosmonauts again.
People shouldnt avoid chaos, they should adapt and embrace it and learn to operate. Out of chaos comes order.
I am extremely disappointed that the military has more say over these activities than the citizens who support both.
Time to change please.
War is easy and stupid, making peace is hard and productive.
Thank you, pat.
---- Sent via sarex@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex
Hi Pat...
Think about it for a second...their radio is listening on the voice frequency any time they want it to...if they choose to answer they don't know it's crossband ...it's built into the radio.
They just have to be on the "voice" channel, which to us is crossband, not to them.
If you want to kick the UNPROTO/APRS guys off their 145.825 frequency, that is a completely different matter. Just say so.
Roger WA1KAT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McGrane" n2oeq@aceweb.com To: kenneth.g.ransom@nasa.gov; n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@AMSAT.Org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: [sarex] Re: Lets go back to simplex voice
Hi kenneth- please reread my message, if they hear us calling MAYBE they
will answer, as it
is they dont hear us to get interested, chicken and egg. Be the solution.
Pat
------- Original Message ------- From : Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS
TECHNOLOGY][mailto:kenneth.g.ransom@nasa.gov]
Sent : 8/10/2009 3:30:09 PM To : n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
What difference does simplex vs. split make if the crew doesn't want to
answer? Activity
occurs regardless of frequency operation when a crew member shows interest
in making
contacts.
Kenneth - N5VHO
If they are listening on the uplink freq (simplex or split) then they will hear you. Seems they are not listening as much as the old days.
________________________________________ From: Thomas McGrane [n2oeq@aceweb.com] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:25 PM To: Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]; n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Subject: RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
Hi kenneth- please reread my message, if they hear us calling MAYBE they will answer, as it is they dont hear us to get interested, chicken and egg. Be the solution. Pat
------- Original Message ------- From : Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY][mailto:kenneth.g.ransom@nasa.gov] Sent : 8/10/2009 3:30:09 PM To : n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
What difference does simplex vs. split make if the crew doesn't want to answer? Activity
occurs regardless of frequency operation when a crew member shows interest in making contacts.
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org [ mailto:sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf Of Thomas McGrane Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:17 AM To: sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
Greetings from pat n2oeq, long island new york
I never agreed with the use of different uplink frequencies for ISS phone operation. It only led to a lack of activity and simple regimented school contacts.
I just tried calling the space station on two meters hoping they were listening but, as usual, no answer.
We need a simple simplex frequency like years ago when the crew of the MIR or the ISS could just leave the radio on and answer as they pleased. Many times in the past, I called according to the tracking program and received responses.
The old argument was that they wanted to operate split to avoid the confusion of a pileup. Well, I guess it worked because nobody talks any more!
Please return to a simplex frequency so we can enjoy working the astronauts and cosmonauts again.
People shouldnt avoid chaos, they should adapt and embrace it and learn to operate. Out of chaos comes order.
I am extremely disappointed that the military has more say over these activities than the citizens who support both.
Time to change please.
War is easy and stupid, making peace is hard and productive.
Thank you, pat.
---- Sent via sarex@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex
I think Bill McArthur (and a few others) spoiled us with his enthusiasm for working amateur stations. Most of the ISS crew doesn't have this level of interest in ham radio.
73, Bob K0NR
Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY] wrote:
If they are listening on the uplink freq (simplex or split) then they will hear you. Seems they are not listening as much as the old days.
From: Thomas McGrane [n2oeq@aceweb.com] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:25 PM To: Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]; n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Subject: RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
Hi kenneth- please reread my message, if they hear us calling MAYBE they will answer, as it is they dont hear us to get interested, chicken and egg. Be the solution. Pat
------- Original Message -------
From : Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY][mailto:kenneth.g.ransom@nasa.gov]
Sent : 8/10/2009 3:30:09 PM To : n2oeq@aceweb.com; sarex@amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
What difference does simplex vs. split make if the crew doesn't want to answer? Activity
occurs regardless of frequency operation when a crew member shows interest in making contacts.
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org [ mailto:sarex-bounces@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf Of Thomas McGrane Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:17 AM To: sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [sarex] Lets go back to simplex voice
Greetings from pat n2oeq, long island new york
I never agreed with the use of different uplink frequencies for ISS phone operation. It only led to a lack of activity and simple regimented school contacts.
I just tried calling the space station on two meters hoping they were listening but, as usual, no answer.
We need a simple simplex frequency like years ago when the crew of the MIR or the ISS could just leave the radio on and answer as they pleased. Many times in the past, I called according to the tracking program and received responses.
The old argument was that they wanted to operate split to avoid the confusion of a pileup. Well, I guess it worked because nobody talks any more!
Please return to a simplex frequency so we can enjoy working the astronauts and cosmonauts again.
People shouldnt avoid chaos, they should adapt and embrace it and learn to operate. Out of chaos comes order.
I am extremely disappointed that the military has more say over these activities than the citizens who support both.
Time to change please.
War is easy and stupid, making peace is hard and productive.
Thank you, pat.
participants (4)
-
Bob K0NR - email list -
Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY] -
Roger Kolakowski -
Thomas McGrane