I hate to see this old horse beaten again but as a relatively new ham, and new is a relative term, I passed the test the VE Team gave me. I did not petition the FCC to do anything to make things easier or harder for me. Does that mean I'm an idiot? I hope not. I went to my first symposium NOT as a member and it was because of what I found that caused me to BECOME a member. There are people in this organization who are way beyond me in terms of education and capability. But never has anyone in AMSAT held that over my head. From the top on down, everyone I have met at AMSAT-NA is genuine and willing to help anyone with a question. I wish I could say that for the non satellite ham community.
John - AG9D
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Michael Schulz <mschulz@creative-chaos.com
wrote:
And luckily there aren't too many people who are so full of themselves and view themselves as superior just because they have been in the hobby for so long. How dare newer and god forbid younger people come into your kingdom and claim a spot by virtue of passing a test that not by their fault has been made simpler. Instead of parking your ass on the high horse, get off of it and try to educate in a way that's actually helpful to people. I guess that concept doesn't really appeal to you?
What I see on this list is either the old farts wishing back the good old times of AO-10 etc. or the new crop who are simply happy to work the FM birds with a HT and a store bought antenna. Instead of whining that nobody is paying for your next big toy (P3E) to go into orbit why not try to invoke some passion in the new folks. Light a spark for what it really means to let's say work a linear bird and understand it. The attitude I often see here doesn't really help.
I guess your understanding of the ham spirit of helping others and sharing knowledge has been dumbed down in the process.
73 Mike K5TRI
On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Dave Guimont wrote:
Hi Dom,
Just give up on trying to explain to some of these new operators! They
will never understand what you, Peter, and others on here are talking about....
The way the US has "dumbed down" the license requirements produced
them...
GO FOR P3E!!!!
73, Dave, WB6LLO dguimon1@san.rr.com Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...
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