Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Thanking you beforehand.
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On 2019-07-09 12:35, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Hello Jean Marc,
I am not aware of any legislation regarding SDR, applicable to FCC Part 97 (Amateur Radio), in the USA. It doesn't matter if your transmitter is Software or Hardware modulated. (and, when we get right down to it, software is just a different way to wire hardware components together .. but I digress)
It is the effective emission that matters. If the transmitted signal has the appropriate bandwidth and meets the spurious emission limits, then there is no problem.
--- Zach N0ZGO
Zach,
Thanks for the prompt feedback for US, really appreciated. I hope that others will also do so around the world.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
On 2019-07-09 12:35, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Dear All, I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Hello Jean Marc,
I am not aware of any legislation regarding SDR, applicable to FCC Part 97 (Amateur Radio), in the USA. It doesn't matter if your transmitter is Software or Hardware modulated. (and, when we get right down to it, software is just a different way to wire hardware components together .. but I digress)
It is the effective emission that matters. If the transmitted signal has the appropriate bandwidth and meets the spurious emission limits, then there is no problem.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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Hello Jean, Have you looked at Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio There may be some material that you can reference.
73, Adrian AA5UK
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Thanking you beforehand.
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
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Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't. However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence.
While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.
The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that may not appear in the licenses of some countries
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Hello Jean, Have you looked at Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio There may be some material that you can reference.
73, Adrian AA5UK
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Thanking you beforehand.
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
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Trevor,
Thanks for the valuable input.
Here also there is no specific legislation about SDR, but the legislation includes a restriction about importing any equipment capable of intercepting any radio communication. The possession of same is not really forbidden legally and also there has been no case of prosecution against anyone in spite hundreds around. But in order to import legally same for promoting the hobby (for schools/Universities) and to encourage the legislators to change the law we need some arguments and this is the whole purpose of my mail, also to show the the best practices worldwide.
Thus feedback form one and all about their own legislation worldwide will be surely helpful.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:04 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't. However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence.
While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.
The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that may not appear in the licenses of some countries
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Hello Jean, Have you looked at Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio There may be some material that you can reference.
73, Adrian AA5UK
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Thanking you beforehand.
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
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You are concerned about the issues related to the case of Dr. Moncef Kartas?
-Michelle W5NYV
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Trevor,
Thanks for the valuable input.
Here also there is no specific legislation about SDR, but the legislation includes a restriction about importing any equipment capable of intercepting any radio communication. The possession of same is not really forbidden legally and also there has been no case of prosecution against anyone in spite hundreds around. But in order to import legally same for promoting the hobby (for schools/Universities) and to encourage the legislators to change the law we need some arguments and this is the whole purpose of my mail, also to show the the best practices worldwide.
Thus feedback form one and all about their own legislation worldwide will be surely helpful.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:04 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org
wrote:
Jean, I'm not aware of any country that has legislation specifically
concering SDR's, certainly the UK doesn't.
However, I can see one potential pitfall. The UK permits any form of
modulation (and any bandwidth) to be used, however, in some countries they mandate specific ITU Emission Designators in the licence.
While on-air there is no difference between the same mode produced by
different means the Emission Designators can be different. An old example of this used to be F1B and J2B for RTTY depending on whether direct frequency shift or audio tones to an SSB transmitter were used.
The use of SDR's could theoretically result in Emission Designators that
may not appear in the licenses of some countries
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 19:07:04 BST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Hello Jean, Have you looked at Wikipedia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio
There may be some material that you can reference.
73, Adrian AA5UK
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:36:13 PM CDT, Jean Marc Momple viaAMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Dear All,
I would be grateful if you could send me your regulator position about
SDR's or legal framework in your country about same. Having some discussions with the 3B8 regulator (right now) about same this may help clearing some issues.
Thanking you beforehand.
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
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Michelle,
Not at all, I was not even aware of it and just read his story after receiving your mail.
The purpose of my research about legislation on SDR is purely to enable official importation of same here as the ICT Act here presently forbid importation of any equipment (vague wording) which may be use to intercept radio communication. Depending on interpretation a SDR may be construed as falling in this category, to note that possession of same or using it is not an offense under the law here (except if you misuse information collected).
I am working on a project to equip many schools with receiving ground station (VHF-UHF) to promote education and Radio Ham, therefore need to import may SDR.
Thanks for the info.
73
Jean Marc
On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Michelle Thompson mountain.michelle@gmail.com wrote:
Dr. Moncef Kartas
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