I have been talking with Dave Hartzell and Johnathan Corgan about the web resources necessary to back the development of ACP, Namaste and other AMSAT projects. We talked about setting up Subversion and Trac, which we have used very productively for a few years on the GNU Radio project. Trac provides a wiki, bug tracking, milestones, history, and source code browsing.
We could set it up on the server in Rick's office, but that would involve a lot of volunteer time to set it up, manage it, and back it up. It also would involve putting more access into a box which will apparently have people's credit card info on it, which is clearly a bad idea. These roll-your-own solutions, like Eaglepedia are hard to sustain.
Johnathan has been using, and suggested that we use, devguard.com which provides exactly the kind of Trac and SVN hosting we need. For $7.95 a month they'll host it, back it up, and support an unlimited number of users. As the total data size and number of projects grows, you simply move up to larger plans which top out at 5 GB and $60/month.
Free volunteers don't come cheap. Neither does bandwidth. Proper security and backup systems are hard. Why not leave these things to professionals who do it all day long for a reasonable price?
Please check out their services at:
I would appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on this. I feel strongly that this is the right way to go. This is a multi-million dollar project, so 20 bucks or so a month is in the noise.
Matt
Hello Matt!
I would appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on this. I feel strongly that this is the right way to go. This is a multi-million dollar project, so 20 bucks or so a month is in the noise.
It makes a huge amount of sense to me, Matt. Use volunteer time and creativity to solve the engineering problems we have, and use cost-effective resources to get more productivity from the volunteer hours, which we're exceedingly fortunate to have.
73,
Lyle KK7P
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:57:13AM -0700, Matt Ettus wrote:
Please check out their services at:
http://devguard.com
I would appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on this. I feel strongly that this is the right way to go. This is a multi-million dollar project, so 20 bucks or so a month is in the noise.
Matt
Sounds like a good idea to me. Trac + svn provides great project infrastructure.
Eric
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Eric Blossom eb@comsec.com wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:57:13AM -0700, Matt Ettus wrote:
Please check out their services at:
http://devguard.com
I would appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on this. I feel strongly that this is the right way to go. This is a multi-million dollar project, so 20 bucks or so a month is in the noise.
Matt
Sounds like a good idea to me. Trac + svn provides great project infrastructure.
Sooner or later it's going to be essential. There's no better method for coordinating developers. Why not do it now?
73 Frank AB2KT
Matt,
I agree on the tools but we bought a powerful server with good connectivity to handle just this kind of thing. I recommend that we use it. Management of this asset is not that big a deal and I will get these tools installed ASAP. The hard work is setting up the tools for the project and that is no different no matter where it is done. The big advantage that we discovered in our disaster with iPower.com is that we can control the internal tools and configuration, which you can't always do on a shared computer. I will work with Dave or whoever is going to manage these tools to be sure the right accounts are established for the maintainers.
Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232
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From: eagle-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:eagle-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Frank Brickle Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:14 PM To: Eric Blossom Cc: EAGLE Subject: [eagle] Re: revision control, wiki, web, etc.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Eric Blossom eb@comsec.com wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:57:13AM -0700, Matt Ettus wrote:
Please check out their services at:
http://devguard.com
I would appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on this. I feel strongly that this is the right way to go. This is a multi-million dollar project, so 20 bucks or so a month is in the noise.
Matt
Sounds like a good idea to me. Trac + svn provides great project infrastructure.
Sooner or later it's going to be essential. There's no better method for coordinating developers. Why not do it now?
73 Frank AB2KT
participants (5)
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Eric Blossom
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Frank Brickle
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Lyle Johnson
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Matt Ettus
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Rick Hambly (W2GPS)