Fwd: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: onhelp@onsemi.com Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527 To: rich@ourowndomain.com
Response From ON Semiconductor Service Request #242527 ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
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Thank you for contacting ON Semiconductor.
There is option for PSK mode only, configuration can be created with AX-RadioLab. You need to enter '1962' in the TX Periodic field on the main screen, and press enter. PSK mode, along with other more advanced options will be available in the PHY screen.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us back.
Regards, Martin ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Subject: BPSK on ax5043
Description of customer request:
I am working on software to drive an AX5043 which needs to transmit and receive BPSK. It doesn't look like AX-RadioLAB has BPSK as an option and I can't find any application notes about using BPSK on the ax5043.
Interesting Rich....................
Re part availability, I see the EOL Product Discontinuance doc. (attached) from ONSEMI. But there is no substitute part identified in that information. The "*potential*" substitutes listed on the Digikey page appear to NOT be very (feature) similar to this part, but much more complex, costly and BlueTooth, IoT, etc. intended. However, the Newark site offers a substitute search for "RF Transceivers - Sub 2.4 GHz ISM Band" that results in several possibilities, particularly the Silicon Labs Si4464/63/61/60 family.
Alternatively, both Newark and Arrow electronics are listing their AX5043 part stock as >1000 pieces at approx. $2.80 each Qty 10, making a lifetime buy viable.
eric (K1TVV)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 9:17 PM Rich Gopstein rich@ourowndomain.com wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: onhelp@onsemi.com Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527 To: rich@ourowndomain.com
Response From ON Semiconductor Service Request #242527 ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
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Hello Rich Gopstein,
Thank you for contacting ON Semiconductor.
There is option for PSK mode only, configuration can be created with AX-RadioLab. You need to enter '1962' in the TX Periodic field on the main screen, and press enter. PSK mode, along with other more advanced options will be available in the PHY screen.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us back.
Regards, Martin ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Subject: BPSK on ax5043
Description of customer request:
I am working on software to drive an AX5043 which needs to transmit and receive BPSK. It doesn't look like AX-RadioLAB has BPSK as an option and I can't find any application notes about using BPSK on the ax5043.
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BTW Rich - I saw in the chat room the comment you made about the AX5243 ONSEMI chip also being EOL. That's an interesting chip as well...........did you note that Digikey has over 38,000 of those in stock? I wonder how compatible your AX5043 code would be with those chips?
eric
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 11:56 PM Eric Skoog eric.n.skoog@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting Rich....................
Re part availability, I see the EOL Product Discontinuance doc. (attached) from ONSEMI. But there is no substitute part identified in that information. The "*potential*" substitutes listed on the Digikey page appear to NOT be very (feature) similar to this part, but much more complex, costly and BlueTooth, IoT, etc. intended. However, the Newark site offers a substitute search for "RF Transceivers - Sub 2.4 GHz ISM Band" that results in several possibilities, particularly the Silicon Labs Si4464/63/61/60 family.
Alternatively, both Newark and Arrow electronics are listing their AX5043 part stock as >1000 pieces at approx. $2.80 each Qty 10, making a lifetime buy viable.
eric (K1TVV)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 9:17 PM Rich Gopstein rich@ourowndomain.com wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: onhelp@onsemi.com Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527 To: rich@ourowndomain.com
Response From ON Semiconductor Service Request #242527 ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Voice Mail: 800-282-9855 (US & Canada) Web Site: http://www.onsemi.com/pub/tech_support
Please do not reply to this email. Please submit any additional questions via our web site or by calling the ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center. Thank you.
Hello Rich Gopstein,
Thank you for contacting ON Semiconductor.
There is option for PSK mode only, configuration can be created with AX-RadioLab. You need to enter '1962' in the TX Periodic field on the main screen, and press enter. PSK mode, along with other more advanced options will be available in the PHY screen.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us back.
Regards, Martin ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Subject: BPSK on ax5043
Description of customer request:
I am working on software to drive an AX5043 which needs to transmit and receive BPSK. It doesn't look like AX-RadioLAB has BPSK as an option and I can't find any application notes about using BPSK on the ax5043.
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BTW Rich - I saw in the chat room the comment you made about the AX5243 ONSEMI chip (data sheet attached) also being EOL. That's an interesting chip as well...........did you note that Digikey has over 38,000 of those in stock? I wonder how compatible your AX5043 code would be with those chips?
eric
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 9:46 AM Eric Skoog eric.n.skoog@gmail.com wrote:
BTW Rich - I saw in the chat room the comment you made about the AX5243 ONSEMI chip also being EOL. That's an interesting chip as well...........did you note that Digikey has over 38,000 of those in stock? I wonder how compatible your AX5043 code would be with those chips?
eric
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 11:56 PM Eric Skoog eric.n.skoog@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting Rich....................
Re part availability, I see the EOL Product Discontinuance doc. (attached) from ONSEMI. But there is no substitute part identified in that information. The "*potential*" substitutes listed on the Digikey page appear to NOT be very (feature) similar to this part, but much more complex, costly and BlueTooth, IoT, etc. intended. However, the Newark site offers a substitute search for "RF Transceivers - Sub 2.4 GHz ISM Band" that results in several possibilities, particularly the Silicon Labs Si4464/63/61/60 family.
Alternatively, both Newark and Arrow electronics are listing their AX5043 part stock as >1000 pieces at approx. $2.80 each Qty 10, making a lifetime buy viable.
eric (K1TVV)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 9:17 PM Rich Gopstein rich@ourowndomain.com wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: onhelp@onsemi.com Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527 To: rich@ourowndomain.com
Response From ON Semiconductor Service Request #242527 ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Voice Mail: 800-282-9855 (US & Canada) Web Site: http://www.onsemi.com/pub/tech_support
Please do not reply to this email. Please submit any additional questions via our web site or by calling the ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center. Thank you.
Hello Rich Gopstein,
Thank you for contacting ON Semiconductor.
There is option for PSK mode only, configuration can be created with AX-RadioLab. You need to enter '1962' in the TX Periodic field on the main screen, and press enter. PSK mode, along with other more advanced options will be available in the PHY screen.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us back.
Regards, Martin ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Subject: BPSK on ax5043
Description of customer request:
I am working on software to drive an AX5043 which needs to transmit and receive BPSK. It doesn't look like AX-RadioLAB has BPSK as an option and I can't find any application notes about using BPSK on the ax5043.
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Good discussion thread............................let's keep it going.
*GOOD NEWS:* JK just sent me a FUTURE Electronics 'Featured Product' advertisement (attached) that he just received this morning for an AXM0F343 -- (thanks John). This appears to be a low budget/low freq RF SoC in the spirit of Xilinx's high end chips. It is a 5mm x 7mm QFN40 chip with 0.5mm pin pitch that contains an AX5043 PLUS an ARM Cortex M0+ microcontroller..................neat! This may be attractive for FOX+/PacSat multichannel applications, as it would appear that "n" of these chips on an RF card could provide "n" independent comm channels. That is, if one channel were to fail, that "should" not affect ops on the others I would think.................*However*,
*BAD NEWS*: If you read the long list of ONSEMI's discontinued EOL chips that I sent earlier, you'll see THIS chip is also on that list!
*NEVERTHELESS*: If we studied this chip more carefully and concluded it could be a viable RF SoC component candidate for GOLF, FOX+, PacSat, LTM, etc., it is available in the thousands from Digikey, Mouser and others for a little over $6 each, Qty 25 for the 64kB Flash; 8 kB RAM version, or ~$8 each for the 256kB Flash; 32kB RAM version.
It's still not clear why ONSEMI is going EOL on their AX5043 core chips.....................does anyone know?
eric (K1TVV)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 11:56 PM Eric Skoog eric.n.skoog@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting Rich....................
Re part availability, I see the EOL Product Discontinuance doc. (attached) from ONSEMI. But there is no substitute part identified in that information. The "*potential*" substitutes listed on the Digikey page appear to NOT be very (feature) similar to this part, but much more complex, costly and BlueTooth, IoT, etc. intended. However, the Newark site offers a substitute search for "RF Transceivers - Sub 2.4 GHz ISM Band" that results in several possibilities, particularly the Silicon Labs Si4464/63/61/60 family.
Alternatively, both Newark and Arrow electronics are listing their AX5043 part stock as >1000 pieces at approx. $2.80 each Qty 10, making a lifetime buy viable.
eric (K1TVV)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 9:17 PM Rich Gopstein rich@ourowndomain.com wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: onhelp@onsemi.com Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: BPSK on ax5043 Service Request #242527 To: rich@ourowndomain.com
Response From ON Semiconductor Service Request #242527 ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Voice Mail: 800-282-9855 (US & Canada) Web Site: http://www.onsemi.com/pub/tech_support
Please do not reply to this email. Please submit any additional questions via our web site or by calling the ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center. Thank you.
Hello Rich Gopstein,
Thank you for contacting ON Semiconductor.
There is option for PSK mode only, configuration can be created with AX-RadioLab. You need to enter '1962' in the TX Periodic field on the main screen, and press enter. PSK mode, along with other more advanced options will be available in the PHY screen.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us back.
Regards, Martin ON Semiconductor Technical Support Center
Subject: BPSK on ax5043
Description of customer request:
I am working on software to drive an AX5043 which needs to transmit and receive BPSK. It doesn't look like AX-RadioLAB has BPSK as an option and I can't find any application notes about using BPSK on the ax5043.
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Thanks Eric.
It is a factor of three time the price of the AX4053.
The quantity would indicate it’s not been a big seller when compared to the last quantities for the AX4053.
Digi-Key has a supply but end-of-life is noted with a last time to buy date of 12/30/2022.
Last week I checked the stock and they had a few which is normal with the supply chain but no notice of end-of-life.
I went back yesterday to order and the quantity was zero with EOL noted and found the same conditions at Mouser.
Arrow and Newark have about 2000 together and I found a few at LSCS Electronics in China but have never done business with them.
Now or never time.
Jim
WA4CWI
Good discussion thread............................let's keep it going.
GOOD NEWS: JK just sent me a FUTURE Electronics 'Featured Product' advertisement (attached) that he just received this morning for an AXM0F343 -- (thanks John). This appears to be a low budget/low freq RF SoC in the spirit of Xilinx's high end chips. It is a 5mm x 7mm QFN40 chip with 0.5mm pin pitch that contains an AX5043 PLUS an ARM Cortex M0+ microcontroller..................neat! This may be attractive for FOX+/PacSat multichannel applications, as it would appear that "n" of these chips on an RF card could provide "n" independent comm channels. That is, if one channel were to fail, that "should" not affect ops on the others I would think................However,
BAD NEWS: If you read the long list of ONSEMI's discontinued EOL chips that I sent earlier, you'll see THIS chip is also on that list!
NEVERTHELESS: If we studied this chip more carefully and concluded it could be a viable RF SoC component candidate for GOLF, FOX+, PacSat, LTM, etc, it is available in the thousands from Digikey, Mouser and others for a little over $6 each, Qty 25 for the 64kB Flash; 8 kB RAM version, or ~$8 each for the 256kB Flash; 32kB RAM version.
It's still not clear why ONSEMI is going EOL on their AX5043 core chips.....................does anyone know?
eric (K1TVV)
preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
There may be another advantage to the AXM0F343... I think onsemi has a SDK which will generate code for the ARM processor to talk to the attached ax5043. I'm not 100% sure about that, but I thought one of the support people mentioned that back when I was working on the ax5043.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 4:54 PM JIm McCullers wa4cwi@bellsouth.net wrote:
Thanks Eric.
It is a factor of three time the price of the AX4053.
The quantity would indicate it’s not been a big seller when compared to the last quantities for the AX4053.
Digi-Key has a supply but end-of-life is noted with a last time to buy date of 12/30/2022.
Last week I checked the stock and they had a few which is normal with the supply chain but no notice of end-of-life.
I went back yesterday to order and the quantity was zero with EOL noted and found the same conditions at Mouser.
Arrow and Newark have about 2000 together and I found a few at LSCS Electronics in China but have never done business with them.
Now or never time.
Jim
WA4CWI
Good discussion thread............................let's keep it going.
*GOOD NEWS**:* JK just sent me a FUTURE Electronics 'Featured Product' advertisement (attached) that he just received this morning for an AXM0F343 -- (thanks John). This appears to be a low budget/low freq RF SoC in the spirit of Xilinx's high end chips. It is a 5mm x 7mm QFN40 chip with 0.5mm pin pitch that contains an AX5043 PLUS an ARM Cortex M0+ microcontroller..................neat! This may be attractive for FOX+/PacSat multichannel applications, as it would appear that "n" of these chips on an RF card could provide "n" independent comm channels. That is, if one channel were to fail, that "should" not affect ops on the others I would think................*However*,
*BAD NEWS*: If you read the long list of ONSEMI's discontinued EOL chips that I sent earlier, you'll see THIS chip is also on that list!
*NEVERTHELESS*: If we studied this chip more carefully and concluded it could be a viable RF SoC component candidate for GOLF, FOX+, PacSat, LTM, etc, it is available in the thousands from Digikey, Mouser and others for a little over $6 each, Qty 25 for the 64kB Flash; 8 kB RAM version, or ~$8 each for the 256kB Flash; 32kB RAM version.
It's still not clear why ONSEMI is going EOL on their AX5043 core chips.....................does anyone know?
eric (K1TVV)
preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
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