Re: Problems with nasabare.txt
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
de KM1P Joe
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:1. Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?2. If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I get an update for that?Tnx,Ray KN2K
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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
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Ray,
There is no HO-113 in this week's nasabare.txt or nasa.all. That could change next week. However, if you go to ? > Auxiliary Files > AmsatNames you can add an entry like this: 50466 21131B HO-113 Be sure to keep the format/spacing the same as the other entries in that file. Save it, and then re-start the program.
The AmsatNames.txt file tells the program to ignore the satellite name and use the catalog number instead. Since catalog numbers are unique, but this satellite now has three names (CAS-9, XW-3, HO-113), using AmsatNames can help avoid confusion. -- Mark D. Johns, KØJM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:21 AM crohtun--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:
- Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?
- If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I
get an update for that? Tnx, Ray KN2K
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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald < jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
de KM1P Joe
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Note: The AmsatNames.txt file that Mark talks about is for SatPC32. Not all programs have that.
And this week, none of (CAS-9, XW-3 HO-113) are in nasabare.txt. Instead it is XW 3 (with a space). I'm not sure what programs will be happy with the space. (I only found it using the catalog number that Mark posted),
Please fix! Thanks.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:30 AM Mark Johns, K0JM k0jm.mark@gmail.com wrote:
Ray,
There is no HO-113 in this week's nasabare.txt or nasa.all. That could change next week. However, if you go to ? > Auxiliary Files > AmsatNames you can add an entry like this: 50466 21131B HO-113 Be sure to keep the format/spacing the same as the other entries in that file. Save it, and then re-start the program.
The AmsatNames.txt file tells the program to ignore the satellite name and use the catalog number instead. Since catalog numbers are unique, but this satellite now has three names (CAS-9, XW-3, HO-113), using AmsatNames can help avoid confusion. -- Mark D. Johns, KØJM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:21 AM crohtun--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:
- Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?
- If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I
get an update for that? Tnx, Ray KN2K
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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald < jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
de KM1P Joe
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Some how XW-3 was changed to XW 3. The csn sat tracker is ok with the space.
http://www.csntechnologies.net/sat
Mike
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:17 AM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Note: The AmsatNames.txt file that Mark talks about is for SatPC32. Not all programs have that.
And this week, none of (CAS-9, XW-3 HO-113) are in nasabare.txt. Instead it is XW 3 (with a space). I'm not sure what programs will be happy with the space. (I only found it using the catalog number that Mark posted),
Please fix! Thanks.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:30 AM Mark Johns, K0JM k0jm.mark@gmail.com wrote:
Ray,
There is no HO-113 in this week's nasabare.txt or nasa.all. That could change next week. However, if you go to ? > Auxiliary Files > AmsatNames you can add an entry like this: 50466 21131B HO-113 Be sure to keep the format/spacing the same as the other entries in that file. Save it, and then re-start the program.
The AmsatNames.txt file tells the program to ignore the satellite name and use the catalog number instead. Since catalog numbers are unique, but this satellite now has three names (CAS-9, XW-3, HO-113), using AmsatNames can help avoid confusion. -- Mark D. Johns, KØJM AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:21 AM crohtun--- via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:
- Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?
- If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I
get an update for that? Tnx, Ray KN2K
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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald < jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
de KM1P Joe
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Hi Friends,
There are ALWAYS some challenges when a bird is launched, and then "the real name" is determined. It takes some work to track and follow a new bird. Part of the package of chasing new birds, really...
Here is one way I work through any difficulties (real or perceived by me...) with TLEs.
Use your browser to check out the TLE files, directly, before loading them into any tracking program. Download and edit if needed, before loading in your program. Don't know where the file goes for your tracking program? Figure it out ;)
Here are the links I find helpful: My preferred source is this: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
Another likely suspect is this one, but I prefer the above without any header information... http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
Here is another source I consult when needed. PE0SAT seems to be on top of things with new launches! So, if you're chasing "new birds" check out this file for something new...again, beware the satellite name! Edit as you need to... http://tle.pe0sat.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt and/or this one: http://tle.pe0sat.nl/kepler/research.txt
And of course, direct access to a couple files on Celestrak (although you may spend a lot of time editing satellite names, depending on your program, etc.) https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt
I recommend you bookmark these links above! Understand they are all different for satellite names, so you probably can't just use one, change to the other, and expect it to work "right." (Hint--SatPC32, tackle the use of Amsatnames.txt)
There are a huge number of places to get TLEs. The file name alone isn't enough to know where it's coming from...there are many, many other sources.
73,
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] AMSAT Director and Command Station
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:21 AM crohtun--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:
- Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?
- If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I
get an update for that? Tnx, Ray KN2K
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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald < jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.
For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org
de KM1P Joe
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