The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
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"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
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Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations. TNX, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 03:07:07 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
Think a 90-minute informative and FUN Zoom presentation on getting started working the ham satellites would be appropriate for your club?
I have dates set for these locales in the next few weeks …
New Jersey Central New Hampshire North Carolina Conejo Valley CA Sonoma County CA Massachusetts Antelope Valley CA
Let me know if your club may be interested!
Clint Bradford K6LCS AMSAT Ambassador; ARRL instructor
Email: clintbradford AT mac DOT com (909) 999-SATS (7287) - voicemail/message
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Always have. Always will.
Clint K6LCS
On Jul 26, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures ...
The chaos and mayhem have not improved. In fact, they seem to begetting worse. Perhaps, more emphasis needs to be placed on the use of proper operatingprocedures. Or, some other tact or teaching method needs to be used toemphasize that one should ensure an existing QSO is not QRM'ed beforetransmitting. Don't you agree? Surely, you must be aware of the problems occurring onthe FM Satellites from QRM. The weekends are particularly difficult. Asmore users are being added, the problem is getting worse. Education is thekey to making things better. TNX, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 04:09:09 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Always have. Always will. Clint K6LCS
On Jul 26, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations. TNX, Bob K8BL -----------------------------------------------------------
Also teach them... No need to work the same person everyday, every pass on FM... sure you wanna do the on SSB birds, enjoy your ragchew. But the ops who seem to find it necessary to make the SAME QSO EVERY DAY on FM need to move on....
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:06 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations.
TNX, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 03:07:07 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
Think a 90-minute informative and FUN Zoom presentation on getting started working the ham satellites would be appropriate for your club?
I have dates set for these locales in the next few weeks …
New Jersey Central New Hampshire North Carolina Conejo Valley CA Sonoma County CA Massachusetts Antelope Valley CA
Let me know if your club may be interested!
Clint Bradford K6LCS AMSAT Ambassador; ARRL instructor
Email: clintbradford AT mac DOT com (909) 999-SATS (7287) - voicemail/message
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Tucker, I agree. That can get to be very tiresome to hear every day. There issuch a short window on some passes and it can prevent new contactsfrom being made. As far as the chaos and mayhem is concerned, perhaps some actualrecordings can be used as examples of good operating procedures andpoor ones. That seems like something easy to do and quite helpful toillustrate good versus not so good. TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 04:56:35 PM EDT, KI7UNJ Tucker ki7unj@gmail.com wrote:
Also teach them... No need to work the same person everyday, every pass on FM... sure you wanna do the on SSB birds, enjoy your ragchew. But the ops who seem to find it necessary to make the SAME QSO EVERY DAY on FM need to move on.... On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:06 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations. TNX, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 03:07:07 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
Think a 90-minute informative and FUN Zoom presentation on getting started working the ham satellites would be appropriate for your club?
I have dates set for these locales in the next few weeks …
New Jersey Central New Hampshire North Carolina Conejo Valley CA Sonoma County CA Massachusetts Antelope Valley CA
Let me know if your club may be interested!
Clint Bradford K6LCS AMSAT Ambassador; ARRL instructor
Email: clintbradford AT mac DOT com (909) 999-SATS (7287) - voicemail/message
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People mimic each other. I think some people started not letting others finish QSOs and more and more people started doing it.
If ops with strong signals could make regular contacts on busy passes demonstrating ideal practices it would go a long way to helping the problem.
That would kind of imply people making duplicate contacts over time, though. It might be worth it though if it made everyone operate a little better.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 5:15 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Tucker,
I agree. That can get to be very tiresome to hear every day. There is such a short window on some passes and it can prevent new contacts from being made.
As far as the chaos and mayhem is concerned, perhaps some actual recordings can be used as examples of good operating procedures and poor ones. That seems like something easy to do and quite helpful to illustrate good versus not so good.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 04:56:35 PM EDT, KI7UNJ Tucker ki7unj@gmail.com wrote:
Also teach them... No need to work the same person everyday, every pass on FM... sure you wanna do the on SSB birds, enjoy your ragchew. But the ops who seem to find it necessary to make the SAME QSO EVERY DAY on FM need to move on....
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:06 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations.
TNX, Bob K8BL
On Monday, July 26, 2021, 03:07:07 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
Think a 90-minute informative and FUN Zoom presentation on getting started working the ham satellites would be appropriate for your club?
I have dates set for these locales in the next few weeks …
New Jersey Central New Hampshire North Carolina Conejo Valley CA Sonoma County CA Massachusetts Antelope Valley CA
Let me know if your club may be interested!
Clint Bradford K6LCS AMSAT Ambassador; ARRL instructor
Email: clintbradford AT mac DOT com (909) 999-SATS (7287) - voicemail/message
-- *Casey Tucker KI7UNJ* https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
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John, I strongly agree. Good examples will help greatly. But, when there is an audience learning about SAT operationfor the first time and can hardly contain themselves to goout and get the gear and get in on the fun, that is the PRIMEtime to instill in them how to properly operate. There is somuch fresh meat there and it needs to be cooked right. However these newbies are being taught these days just doesn'tappear to be taking hold. Maybe if they can think of the FM SATsas being just like the FM Repeater down the street where youmust wait for the "BEEP" before you transmit, that could help. Toobad we never got into the mode of saying "over". That could havehelped, but it's too late now. There are quite a few SAT users that avoid using the FM SATs because of the amount of chaos and mayhem that results from pooroperating procedures. That is very sad. At this point, the key seemsto be education on proper procedures and a strong dose of goodexamples by our seasoned operators. TNX/73, Bob K8BL On Monday, July 26, 2021, 06:50:38 PM EDT, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote: People mimic each other. I think some people started not letting others finish QSOs and more and more people started doing it.
If ops with strong signals could make regular contacts on busy passes demonstrating ideal practices it would go a long way to helping the problem. That would kind of imply people making duplicate contacts over time, though. It might be worth it though if it made everyone operate a little better. 73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 5:15 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Tucker, I agree. That can get to be very tiresome to hear every day. There issuch a short window on some passes and it can prevent new contactsfrom being made. As far as the chaos and mayhem is concerned, perhaps some actualrecordings can be used as examples of good operating procedures andpoor ones. That seems like something easy to do and quite helpful toillustrate good versus not so good. TNX/73, Bob K8BL On Monday, July 26, 2021, 04:56:35 PM EDT, KI7UNJ Tucker ki7unj@gmail.com wrote: Also teach them... No need to work the same person everyday, every pass on FM... sure you wanna do the on SSB birds, enjoy your ragchew. But the ops who seem to find it necessary to make the SAME QSO EVERY DAY on FM need to move on.... On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:06 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) k8bl@ameritech.net wrote:
Please stress the proper operating procedures when using a single channel Satellite so the existing chaos and mayhem can eventually be abated. One of the biggest problems is that many Stations are not allowing an existing QSO to finish before transmitting on top of it. This causes repeats which uses up the short time the Satellite is available for other Stations. TNX, Bob K8BL On Monday, July 26, 2021, 03:07:07 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
The AMSAT Ambassador program brings the excitement of working amateur radio satellites to YOUR club!
https://www.amsat.org/ambassador/
"I really enjoyed Clint’s presentation last night. The fact that he had taken the time to research and know something about his audience and welcomed interaction made it very informative and enjoyable. This was a refreshing change from many canned YouTube presentations I’ve tried to watch, which were poorly done, fuzzy video or muddy audio, or a badly prepared presenter stumbling his way through, with any valuable info lost along the way. Thanks for hooking this one up.”
Think a 90-minute informative and FUN Zoom presentation on getting started working the ham satellites would be appropriate for your club?
I have dates set for these locales in the next few weeks …
New Jersey Central New Hampshire North Carolina Conejo Valley CA Sonoma County CA Massachusetts Antelope Valley CA
Let me know if your club may be interested!
Clint Bradford K6LCS AMSAT Ambassador; ARRL instructor
Email: clintbradford AT mac DOT com (909) 999-SATS (7287) - voicemail/message
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