Re: ISS split in IC-9700 memory
How about if you set it up as a repeater with a custom offset?
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:16 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
W9AE wrote:
Just got a new IC-9700 and am in the early stages of getting it configured.
Is there a way to store the 145.8/144.49 MHz ISS voice frequency pair in a regular channel memory?
W4OFO wrote:
It’s on page 7-3 of the manual. I’m in the same place you are with the FT-847.
W9AE replies:
Page 7-3 is the instructions for storing cross-band Satellite memories. That procedure won't work for ISS voice which has uplink and downlink are on the same band. Is it possible to use a regular memory to store a non-standard 2m split to receive on 145.8 MHz and transmit on 144.49 MHz?
Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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It sure seems like ICOM does not make it easy to figure out, but there seems to be something useful in the advanced manual page 1-13 and 1-14. Neither one explicitly says you can store it in a memory once you have it set up, but this feature looks like a superset of a standard repeater setting. They key seems to be to turn off "Auto Repeater" so you enter your own offset.
I also looked in the software that came with the 9700 and it appears that you can enter any amount for split that you want. It accepted .751 but I did not try uploading it. I think I saw that feature in RT-Systems too.
I hope I am hearing what you want, and that this helps...I have not done it. I've used the ISS Cross-band repeater, but that is just a regular satellite setting (and I use SatPC32 or MacDoppler to set it up for me)
73, Burns WB1FJ
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 2:23 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
On 1/9/2021 10:54 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:
How about if you set it up as a repeater with a custom offset?
I can set up and operate a custom offset using VFO A and B, but can't store it. The radio only stores the VFO A frequency.
The channel memories do store conventional repeater offsets but I can't figure out how to define a custom offset that could be stored in the same way.That is what I'm asking for help to accomplish.
73,
Wayne Estes W9AE
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:16 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
W9AE wrote:
Just got a new IC-9700 and am in the early stages of getting it configured.
Is there a way to store the 145.8/144.49 MHz ISS voice frequency pair in a regular channel memory?
W4OFO wrote:
It’s on page 7-3 of the manual. I’m in the same place you are with the FT-847.
W9AE replies:
Page 7-3 is the instructions for storing cross-band Satellite memories. That procedure won't work for ISS voice which has uplink and downlink are on the same band. Is it possible to use a regular memory to store a non-standard 2m split to receive on 145.8 MHz and transmit on 144.49 MHz?
Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Wayne,
This video walks you through it. Just tried it on mine and worked like a charm saving to memory. All programmed from the radio face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totA4bmNHl4
72
-Ant NU1U
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:06 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
On 1/9/2021 10:54 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:
How about if you set it up as a repeater with a custom offset?
I can CREATE a custom -1310 kHz split frequency as described on page 3-6 of the IC-9700 basic manual. The split really works!
But when I SAVE the split frequency pair to a channel memory, only VFO A is stored.
I will look into the "auto repeater" offset setting to see if that prevents me from storing a custom split.
Wayne Estes W9AE
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I programmed a bunch of Satellite freqs in with the free Icom programming software a long time ago. I don’t recall trying a custom offset, but it would be worth a try to check it out and see if it can do what you are looking for. The software download is at:
https://www.icomjapan.com/support/firmware_driver/2399/
….Dave – N9FN
From: Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:51 PM To: Ant Lefebvre anthony.lefebvre@gmail.com Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Re: ISS split in IC-9700 memory
On 1/9/2021 12:25 PM, Ant Lefebvre wrote:
Wayne,
This video walks you through it. Just tried it on mine and worked like a charm saving to memory. All programmed from the radio face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totA4bmNHl4
That video merely shows how to set up a custom repeater offset in VFO mode. The video doesn't even attempt to show how to save the custom repeater offset to a channel memory.
The instructions on page 25 of the basic manual are the same, showing how to set up a custom offset in VFO mode, but not how to save it in a channel memory.
I'm convinced that it's impossible to store a custom repeater offset in an IC-9700 channel memory.
73,
Wayne Estes W9AE
Wayne,
Try going into the memory mode vs doing it from VFO. Only have the main channel on vs both main and sub. Find an empty memory channel and then do your frequency and custom offset. Click on the screen where it says MEMO and the number. You will then get a sub menu pop up. memory should be highlighted. Press and hold MW. You will now have that frequency and custom offset in that memory slot.
HTH 73,
-Ant NU1U
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:51 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
On 1/9/2021 12:25 PM, Ant Lefebvre wrote:
Wayne,
This video walks you through it. Just tried it on mine and worked like a charm saving to memory. All programmed from the radio face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totA4bmNHl4
That video merely shows how to set up a custom repeater offset in VFO mode. The video doesn't even attempt to show how to save the custom repeater offset to a channel memory.
The instructions on page 25 of the basic manual are the same, showing how to set up a custom offset in VFO mode, but not how to save it in a channel memory.
I'm convinced that it's impossible to store a custom repeater offset in an IC-9700 channel memory.
73,
Wayne Estes W9AE
Wayne, I just set up exactly what I think you want and put it into a memory and it works. I think I did what Ant said, but here is a list of what I did:
Use the Advanced manual and go to page 1-13, "FM Repeater Operation". Follow instructions 1-4 (or 5 if you need a tone). In particular, notice that 4 tells you to go to the next page. You also have to do what it says in the USA and Korea note: Menu/set/function/auto repeater off. So to do 4, you go to page 1-14. Push function, touch 2, push DUP till it says DUP- (I think that is what you want). Hold DUP for a second and you get a chance to enter the custom offset, which I think is 1.31. Touch ENT. Now I think it should work the way you want but not be in memory. You can hit push to talk and see VFO shift to the transmit frequency.
Now skip down to page 4.2. The only thing I did differently here is that I had the memory channel I wanted all selected before I set up the offset above. So I did not have to do step 4, rotate Multi. I just touched the memory channel number and then hit MW for 1 second. Blank disappeared, and the chosen memory has the custom offset channel.
Of course you want a name etc, but above is the tricky part.
So this is a PITA--a memory management program would probably be better: The ICOM 9700 program, Chirp, or RT-Systems. With the 9700 you should not need to buy a special interface. Just plug the USB connector into your computer.
Hope this helps,
73, Burns WB1FJ
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 4:09 PM Ant Lefebvre anthony.lefebvre@gmail.com wrote:
Wayne,
Try going into the memory mode vs doing it from VFO. Only have the main channel on vs both main and sub. Find an empty memory channel and then do your frequency and custom offset. Click on the screen where it says MEMO and the number. You will then get a sub menu pop up. memory should be highlighted. Press and hold MW. You will now have that frequency and custom offset in that memory slot.
HTH 73,
-Ant NU1U
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 3:51 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
On 1/9/2021 12:25 PM, Ant Lefebvre wrote:
Wayne,
This video walks you through it. Just tried it on mine and worked like a charm saving to memory. All programmed from the radio face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totA4bmNHl4
That video merely shows how to set up a custom repeater offset in VFO mode. The video doesn't even attempt to show how to save the custom repeater offset to a channel memory.
The instructions on page 25 of the basic manual are the same, showing how to set up a custom offset in VFO mode, but not how to save it in a channel memory.
I'm convinced that it's impossible to store a custom repeater offset in an IC-9700 channel memory.
73,
Wayne Estes W9AE
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I use SatPC32ISS to let the program set the split frequencies. Works in the same band and sets the split frequency for the best uplink for the ISS digipeater.
Thanks, Charles Reiche
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:15 PM Wayne Estes w9ae@charter.net wrote:
W9AE wrote:
Just got a new IC-9700 and am in the early stages of getting it configured.
Is there a way to store the 145.8/144.49 MHz ISS voice frequency pair in a regular channel memory?
W4OFO wrote:
It’s on page 7-3 of the manual. I’m in the same place you are with the FT-847.
W9AE replies:
Page 7-3 is the instructions for storing cross-band Satellite memories. That procedure won't work for ISS voice which has uplink and downlink are on the same band. Is it possible to use a regular memory to store a non-standard 2m split to receive on 145.8 MHz and transmit on 144.49 MHz?
Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Ant Lefebvre
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Burns Fisher
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Charles Reiche
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Dave Chasey - N9FN
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Wayne Estes