HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
https://spaceflight.com/whos-onboard-sxrs-5-spacex-transporter-2/
73s Bob N4HY
Dr. Robert W McGwier, Ph.D. Adjunct Faculty, Virginia Tech ARDC Member of Board N4HY: ARRL, TAPR, AMSAT, EARC Sky: AAVSO, SkyHub, Auburn AS, Skyscrapers
Bob, Thanks for sharing that informative article with its fabulouspictures. Things like this are what I enjoy the most aboutthe AMSAT-BB. 73, Bob K8BL
On Monday, May 17, 2021, 02:30:38 PM EDT, Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com wrote:
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
https://spaceflight.com/whos-onboard-sxrs-5-spacex-transporter-2/
73s BobN4HY
Dr. Robert W McGwier, Ph.D. Adjunct Faculty, Virginia Tech ARDC Member of Board N4HY: ARRL, TAPR, AMSAT, EARC Sky: AAVSO, SkyHub, Auburn AS, Skyscrapers -----------------------------------------------------------
Good story in The Economist on Hawkeye 360 a few weeks ago. -----Original Message----- From: Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 11:29 am Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Hawkeye 360 next three satellites this summer
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
https://spaceflight.com/whos-onboard-sxrs-5-spacex-transporter-2/
73s BobN4HY
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I saw it and I should have posted it here.
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:29 PM Ray Soifer rsoifer1@aol.com wrote:
Good story in The Economist on Hawkeye 360 a few weeks ago.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 11:29 am Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Hawkeye 360 next three satellites this summer
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
https://spaceflight.com/whos-onboard-sxrs-5-spacex-transporter-2/
73s Bob N4HY
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Sorry about the paywall but there is enough here to get the gist of it if you don't have a subscription.
The single best ideas of my entire technical life are in this company and they are so simple for over a year I wouldn't believe they had not been done before in the intelligence community.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/03/18/small-cheap-spy-...
*Bob*
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:29 PM Ray Soifer rsoifer1@aol.com wrote:
Good story in The Economist on Hawkeye 360 a few weeks ago.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, May 17, 2021 11:29 am Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Hawkeye 360 next three satellites this summer
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
https://spaceflight.com/whos-onboard-sxrs-5-spacex-transporter-2/
73s Bob N4HY
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On 5/17/21 1:29 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
Hi Bob,
The professional side of me says "congrats!".
The privacy advocate in me feels millions of voices crying out and then suddenly silenced. This won't just be used to track foreign bad actors, even the website says so. Just another mechanism for vacuuming up what little private existence we still cling to.
Finally, the amateur side of me says "what does this have to do with amateur radio in space"?
--- Zach N0ZGO
The whole article actually does talk about "ham radios". -David, N9KT
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:31 PM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 5/17/21 1:29 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
HawkEye 360’s Cluster 3: The Cluster 3 launch further expands HawkEye 360’s next-generation satellite constellation, which detects and geolocates radio frequency signals. The Cluster 3 satellites are able to collect a greater quantity of data across a wider portion of the RF spectrum, creating valuable, actionable insights for maritime domain awareness, national security, environmental protection and more.
Hi Bob,
The professional side of me says "congrats!".
The privacy advocate in me feels millions of voices crying out and then suddenly silenced. This won't just be used to track foreign bad actors, even the website says so. Just another mechanism for vacuuming up what little private existence we still cling to.
Finally, the amateur side of me says "what does this have to do with amateur radio in space"?
--- Zach N0ZGO
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On 5/17/21 8:16 PM, David Spoelstra wrote:
The whole article actually does talk about "ham radios".
I wasn't able to read the story behind the paywall, but the two paragraph intro did not have the words "ham radio" anywhere in it.
None of the satellites in the "Who's Onboard .." article are amateur radio projects.
--- Zach N0ZGO
Agreed Zach. Not picking on you. The ham radio part was about usage by "telecoms firms keen to locate rogue transmitters, such as unlicensed ham radios, that are operating within their domains".
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:46 PM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 5/17/21 8:16 PM, David Spoelstra wrote:
The whole article actually does talk about "ham radios".
I wasn't able to read the story behind the paywall, but the two paragraph intro did not have the words "ham radio" anywhere in it.
None of the satellites in the "Who's Onboard .." article are amateur radio projects.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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I despise people illegally using amateur radio equipment. Listening in the amateur radio bands to anyone's conversation has no guarantee of privacy.
There is potential for abuse in every technological development. It is a constant topic of conversation in the offices at Hawkeye 360.
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:55 PM David Spoelstra davids@mediamachine.com wrote:
Agreed Zach. Not picking on you. The ham radio part was about usage by "telecoms firms keen to locate rogue transmitters, such as unlicensed ham radios, that are operating within their domains".
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:46 PM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 5/17/21 8:16 PM, David Spoelstra wrote:
The whole article actually does talk about "ham radios".
I wasn't able to read the story behind the paywall, but the two paragraph intro did not have the words "ham radio" anywhere in it.
None of the satellites in the "Who's Onboard .." article are amateur radio projects.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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In 1998, while acting president of AMSAT, I was reliably informed that bad boys in the Middle East were using AO-14 when it was out of range of European amateur command stations. Illegal use of amateur satellites is at least that old a problam. 73 Ray W2RS
-----Original Message----- From: Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: David Spoelstra davids@mediamachine.com Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2021 4:21 am Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Hawkeye 360 next three satellites this summer
I despise people illegally using amateur radio equipment. Listening in the amateur radio bands to anyone's conversation has no guarantee of privacy. There is potential for abuse in every technological development. It is a constant topic of conversation in the offices at Hawkeye 360. On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:55 PM David Spoelstra davids@mediamachine.com wrote:
Agreed Zach. Not picking on you. The ham radio part was about usage by "telecoms firms keen to locate rogue transmitters, such as unlicensed ham radios, that are operating within their domains". On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:46 PM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 5/17/21 8:16 PM, David Spoelstra wrote:
The whole article actually does talk about "ham radios".
I wasn't able to read the story behind the paywall, but the two paragraph intro did not have the words "ham radio" anywhere in it.
None of the satellites in the "Who's Onboard .." article are amateur radio projects.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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On 06/03/21 06:20, Robert McGwier wrote:
I despise people illegally using amateur radio equipment. Listening in the amateur radio bands to anyone's conversation has no guarantee of privacy.
Hello Bob,
Let me clarify: there is no expectation of privacy in the amateur radio service, and commercial use is prohibited.
My privacy comments were aimed at your satellites tracking cellular phones and other consumer-type radios. However, I'll leave it at that, as this forum is dedicated to amateur radio in space.
Bad guys using our satellites for nefarious purposes, as W2RS mentions in a reply, is definitely something that should concern us.
--- Zach N0ZGO
Zach, Bob et al,tIn addition to the "bad boys" problem, there is another, more recent one: people who do not tell the truth when they file for IARU frequency coordination, ITU notification, and/or licenses from their national administrations. Then there are those whodon't file at all, and simply orbit their uncoordinated satellites. IARU is well aware of these, and is doing the best it can to deal with (them especially PB2T, the IARU Satellite Advisor, who is in contact with many national regulators) but the problems persist. One thing you, the readers of this email, can do to help is to check the IARU satellite data base (www.iaru.org/satellite) before publicising a satellite project, to make sure it is properly coordinated. Any questions that come up about this ahould go to satcoord@iaru.org. 73 Ray W2RS
Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Hawkeye 360 next three satellites this summer
On 06/03/21 06:20, Robert McGwier wrote:
I despise people illegally using amateur radio equipment. Listening in the amateur radio bands to anyone's co,
nversation has no guarantee of
privacy.
Hello Bob,
Let me clarify: there is no expectation of privacy in the amateur radio service, and commercial use is prohibited.
My privacy comments were aimed at your satellites tracking cellular phones and other consumer-type radios. However, I'll leave it at that, as this forum is dedicated to amateur radio in space.
Bad guys using our satellites for nefarious purposes, as W2RS mentions in a reply, is definitely something that should concern us.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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We do not violate the laws of any country. We do not listen to the content of any communications. It is both legal and advisable to map the locations of emitters for all sorts of reasons, public, private, and government.
Bob
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 06/03/21 06:20, Robert McGwier wrote:
I despise people illegally using amateur radio equipment. Listening in the amateur radio bands to anyone's conversation has no guarantee of privacy.
Hello Bob,
Let me clarify: there is no expectation of privacy in the amateur radio service, and commercial use is prohibited.
My privacy comments were aimed at your satellites tracking cellular phones and other consumer-type radios. However, I'll leave it at that, as this forum is dedicated to amateur radio in space.
Bad guys using our satellites for nefarious purposes, as W2RS mentions in a reply, is definitely something that should concern us.
--- Zach N0ZGO
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