Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
*AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades*
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
*Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service*
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
*Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman*
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
When I receive emails with attachments, asking me to click links, I am inherently suspicious. I believe the email below is legit, but would like some public discussion to verify its legitimacy.
Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd
From: Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 5:38 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.orgmailto:postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
It is. The PDF is just the instructions given below, so if you are concerned, just print the original email for your records.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
From: Gary [mailto:gary_mayfield@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 07:15 To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Subject: [AMSAT-BB] FW: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read
When I receive emails with attachments, asking me to click links, I am inherently suspicious. I believe the email below is legit, but would like some public discussion to verify its legitimacy.
Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd
From: Matthew Alberti <matthewalberti@gmail.com mailto:matthewalberti@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 5:38 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org mailto:postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
Seen similar recently. Very suspect! Suggest it’s filed under B for bin. 73 de Roger M0ROJ
On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:39, Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
<AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrade.pdf> ----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
It's certainly a great idea to be on your toes when it comes to possible cyber attacks - so kudos to the stations who are suspect.
However, this appears to be a legitimate e-mail/request.
1) We knew these updates were coming, and 2) if you evaluate the contents of the message they do direct you to the AMSAT site. The text does match up with the actual link and the second-level domain is the AMSAT-NA website. [image: image.png]
Having said that, if you still need additional proof, I'm sure the official AMSAT folks will chime in.
As I said previously to Joe (when he announced the update), thanks to all the folks who supported this update.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 7:52 AM Roger M0ROJ m0roj@goldford.co.uk wrote:
Seen similar recently. Very suspect! Suggest it’s filed under B for bin. 73 de Roger M0ROJ
On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:39, Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
*AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades*
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
*Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service*
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
*Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman*
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
<AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrade.pdf> ----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
OK chaps. With the assurances I received, I’ve bitten the bullet and done as the mailman recommends. The whole process was quite innocuous and did prove the point of it being totally innocent. But I still say: Do not take messages at face value and thus investigate further without implementing any changes, Take advice from those who could/should know, and if still unsure, undertake further investigation, ask for comments, and by taking further advice. And if confidence is garnered then go for it! My own thoughts concur with one of the comments that suggested a callsign may have given more assurance and comfort from the outset; allowing a reasonable degree of qualification. Anyway, all’s well that ends well. But don’t click on the postage stamp below ;-)) 73 to one and all ______________ Roger Reeves M0ROJ@goldford.co.uk IO83pb
nil illegitimi carborundum
On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:45, Tanner Jones twjones85@gmail.com wrote:
It's certainly a great idea to be on your toes when it comes to possible cyber attacks - so kudos to the stations who are suspect.
However, this appears to be a legitimate e-mail/request.
- We knew these updates were coming, and
- if you evaluate the contents of the message they do direct you to the AMSAT site. The text does match up with the actual link and the second-level domain is the AMSAT-NA website.
<image.png>
Having said that, if you still need additional proof, I'm sure the official AMSAT folks will chime in.
As I said previously to Joe (when he announced the update), thanks to all the folks who supported this update.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 7:52 AM Roger M0ROJ <m0roj@goldford.co.uk mailto:m0roj@goldford.co.uk> wrote: Seen similar recently. Very suspect! Suggest it’s filed under B for bin. 73 de Roger M0ROJ
On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:39, Matthew Alberti <matthewalberti@gmail.com mailto:matthewalberti@gmail.com> wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org mailto:postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org https://mailman.amsat.org/
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
<AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrade.pdf> ----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/>
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org https://mailman.amsat.org/
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
Folks, I understand your concern. I get plenty of spam too, but listen to Alan. This is real. You don't hear from Matt Alberti very often but he is on the AMSAT IT team. I have done the transition for some of the internal mailing lists, so I can tell you that the bb mail will likely continue to flow if you do nothing. You will need to sign up for any of the following:
1) You have email aliases (that is you send from more than the same email address that you get your bb mail on) 2) You ever want to turn on "vacation mode", that is temporarily turn off your bb mail. 3) If you get digests, I'm not sure if you will continue to. You will have to sign up to change this setting. 4) If you ever want to look at the bb archives you may have to sign up.
I hope this helps, and good for you for being careful and suspicious. Of course you don't need to believe me either :-)
73, Burns, WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:52 AM Roger M0ROJ m0roj@goldford.co.uk wrote:
Seen similar recently. Very suspect! Suggest it’s filed under B for bin. 73 de Roger M0ROJ
Thanks for confirming that this is legit…. It would have reduced the concern if Matt had put his call sign in the email (KM4EXS)…. His QRZ Biography states that he volunteers for AMSAT NA.
73, Drew KA1M
From: Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 10:16 AM To: Roger M0ROJ m0roj@goldford.co.uk Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Folks, I understand your concern. I get plenty of spam too, but listen to Alan. This is real. You don't hear from Matt Alberti very often but he is on the AMSAT IT team. I have done the transition for some of the internal mailing lists, so I can tell you that the bb mail will likely continue to flow if you do nothing. You will need to sign up for any of the following:
1) You have email aliases (that is you send from more than the same email address that you get your bb mail on)
2) You ever want to turn on "vacation mode", that is temporarily turn off your bb mail.
3) If you get digests, I'm not sure if you will continue to. You will have to sign up to change this setting.
4) If you ever want to look at the bb archives you may have to sign up.
I hope this helps, and good for you for being careful and suspicious. Of course you don't need to believe me either :-)
73,
Burns, WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:52 AM Roger M0ROJ <m0roj@goldford.co.uk mailto:m0roj@goldford.co.uk > wrote:
Seen similar recently. Very suspect!
Suggest it’s filed under B for bin.
73 de Roger M0ROJ
Sigh. I should add that mailman also manages a lot of internal mailing lists for small groups of us to communicate on different topics. At least some of these other mailing lists become visible when you create an account. However, if you try to sign up for them, the request comes to the owner of the list, and we will not accept them unless you are part of that small group.
Please do not try to sign up for other groups. It just creates work for us. We'll have to try to figure out if we can separate these out and make them less visible and tempting :-)
Thanks!
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:24 AM Drew Deskur drew@deskurance.com wrote:
Thanks for confirming that this is legit…. It would have reduced the concern if Matt had put his call sign in the email (KM4EXS)…. His QRZ Biography states that he volunteers for AMSAT NA.
73, Drew KA1M
*From:* Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2020 10:16 AM *To:* Roger M0ROJ m0roj@goldford.co.uk *Cc:* AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject:* [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Folks, I understand your concern. I get plenty of spam too, but listen to Alan. This is real. You don't hear from Matt Alberti very often but he is on the AMSAT IT team. I have done the transition for some of the internal mailing lists, so I can tell you that the bb mail will likely continue to flow if you do nothing. You will need to sign up for any of the following:
- You have email aliases (that is you send from more than the same email
address that you get your bb mail on)
- You ever want to turn on "vacation mode", that is temporarily turn off
your bb mail.
- If you get digests, I'm not sure if you will continue to. You will
have to sign up to change this setting.
- If you ever want to look at the bb archives you may have to sign up.
I hope this helps, and good for you for being careful and suspicious. Of course you don't need to believe me either :-)
73,
Burns, WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:52 AM Roger M0ROJ m0roj@goldford.co.uk wrote:
Seen similar recently. Very suspect!
Suggest it’s filed under B for bin.
73 de Roger M0ROJ
One artifact of all this is that the server seems to have forgotten email distribution settings --- I was set to ‘no emails’, and now I am getting everything.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent.
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t
seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at
https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org
To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at
https://mailman.amsat.org
AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
My email confirmation email finally arrived 6 plus hours after sign up in the new system. The system said it should only take a few minutes. The new system had my two lists transferred from the old system. I guess all is done.
73, Frank K6FW
On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent.
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@arrl.net mailto:n8hm@arrl.net> wrote: Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/ https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito <w1pa@hotmail.com mailto:w1pa@hotmail.com> wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
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Very odd, but it reminds me of something else: Some of my address confirmations got thrown into my spam folder, so you have to look around carefully.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Frank K6FW1@verizon.net wrote:
My email confirmation email finally arrived 6 plus hours after sign up in the new system. The system said it should only take a few minutes. The new system had my two lists transferred from the old system. I guess all is done.
73, Frank K6FW
On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent.
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t
seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
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Agree - all my -bb messages are now going to spam. New filter created that should take care of it.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:51 AM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Very odd, but it reminds me of something else: Some of my address confirmations got thrown into my spam folder, so you have to look around carefully.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Frank K6FW1@verizon.net wrote:
My email confirmation email finally arrived 6 plus hours after sign up in the new system. The system said it should only take a few minutes. The new system had my two lists transferred from the old system. I guess all is done.
73, Frank K6FW
On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent.
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It
doesn’t seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
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All my Amsat email started going to spam on Gmail. That's where I found my email confirmation.
Ernie W8EH
On 12/8/2020 9:32 AM, Tanner Jones wrote:
Agree - all my -bb messages are now going to spam. New filter created that should take care of it.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:51 AM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Very odd, but it reminds me of something else: Some of my address confirmations got thrown into my spam folder, so you have to look around carefully. 73, Burns WB1FJ On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Frank <K6FW1@verizon.net <mailto:K6FW1@verizon.net>> wrote: My email confirmation email finally arrived 6 plus hours after sign up in the new system. The system said it should only take a few minutes. The new system had my two lists transferred from the old system. I guess all is done. 73, Frank K6FWOn Dec 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc <mailto:wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc>> wrote: Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent. Burns WB1FJ On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@arrl.net <mailto:n8hm@arrl.net>> wrote: Bill, AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/ <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/> 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito <w1pa@hotmail.com <mailto:w1pa@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It doesn’t seem to be updating. > > > > https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start <https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start> > > > > > > b > > > > Bill ACITO | W1PA > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> > View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org> > Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/> ----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/> ----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org>----------------------------------------------- AMSAT-BB mailing list -- amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-leave@amsat.org> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org <https://mailman.amsat.org>
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Same here, Ernie. I created a filter this morning that's working. Although, I get a banner at the top of each message basically flagging it at potential spam and saying it would of been filed there if I didn't have a filter.
Sounds like the gang is working out a few bugs, as expected.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:18 PM Ernie w8eh.ernie@gmail.com wrote:
All my Amsat email started going to spam on Gmail. That's where I found my email confirmation.
Ernie W8EH
On 12/8/2020 9:32 AM, Tanner Jones wrote:
Agree - all my -bb messages are now going to spam. New filter created that should take care of it.
73, Tanner
W9TWJ
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:51 AM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Very odd, but it reminds me of something else: Some of my address confirmations got thrown into my spam folder, so you have to look around carefully.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Frank K6FW1@verizon.net wrote:
My email confirmation email finally arrived 6 plus hours after sign up in the new system. The system said it should only take a few minutes. The new system had my two lists transferred from the old system. I guess all is done.
73, Frank K6FW
On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Yes, a lot of settings don't seem to transfer from the old to the new. I think what you were talking about was what I called "vacation mode" in the previous mail I sent.
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Bill,
AMSAT-BB messages are now archived with Hyperkitty rather than Pipermail at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
Do we lose the pipermail archive as part of this upgrade?…. It
doesn’t seem to be updating.
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-December/date.html#start
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
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The “ recent” view doesn’t seem to work on the archive interface, btw (at least for me)
https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org/
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Bill ACITO | W1PA
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:16 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
The “ recent” view doesn’t seem to work on the archive interface, btw (at least for me)
https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org/
b
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I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
From: Richard Lawnmailto:rjlawn@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM To: Bill Acitomailto:w1pa@hotmail.com Cc: Paul Stoetzermailto:n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.orgmailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
Try this?
https://mailman.amsat.org/accounts/password/reset/
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] AMSAT Director and Command Station
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:26 PM Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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It still will not except either of my email addresses. If that’s the case why am I getting all these emails?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:35 PM Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com wrote:
Try this?
https://mailman.amsat.org/accounts/password/reset/
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] AMSAT Director and Command Station
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:26 PM Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito <w1pa@hotmail.com mailto:w1pa@hotmail.com> wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account. b Bill ACITO | W1PA *From: *Richard Lawn <mailto:rjlawn@gmail.com> *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito <mailto:w1pa@hotmail.com> *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer <mailto:n8hm@arrl.net>; amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!! Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses. Rick, W2JAZ-- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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Folks, you need to create a whole new account with a non-email username. Include your email (or maybe you add it afterwards) and it will connect you will the mailing list that you are on. So the deal is that your mailman login is NOT your email address. I hope that helps. I wrote something about it to others when we converted some local lists. Let me see if I can find it.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Dean Berglund deanberg2044@gmail.com wrote:
I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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Ok, here it is. And remember most of you are only on the bb. Please do not subscribe to any of the internal lists if you see them (we are trying to fix that).
First, you have a single account on mailman. You can login at
mailman.amsat.org. If you have not done so before, you will need to create an account with a username (not just an email address). You also specify your email address when you create this account. When you do that you will automatically find that you can access info about the lists you are subscribed to
(in this case specifically the bb)
But here is the key. When you go to your account profile, you can add additional email addresses and designate one of them to be primary. The primary email is where you get mail from the lists, but you can also send from the other addresses that you add.
So it is working as expected. It was just not terribly clear what to expect. Sorry about that...
73,
Burns WB1FJ (not doing IT, but I was a guinea pig for this conversion)
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Folks, you need to create a whole new account with a non-email username. Include your email (or maybe you add it afterwards) and it will connect you will the mailing list that you are on. So the deal is that your mailman login is NOT your email address. I hope that helps. I wrote something about it to others when we converted some local lists. Let me see if I can find it.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Dean Berglund deanberg2044@gmail.com wrote:
I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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Ok, I have discovered that I was wrong on one point (thanks Rich). You CAN use your email address as a username. Just recognize that you are still CREATING A NEW ACCOUNT even if your email address is already signed up for a mailing list. And also you have to use the account section in the upper right (thanks Frank). Do not select a list before you create your account.
Hoping this helps...73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:55 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Ok, here it is. And remember most of you are only on the bb. Please do not subscribe to any of the internal lists if you see them (we are trying to fix that).
First, you have a single account on mailman. You can login at
mailman.amsat.org. If you have not done so before, you will need to create an account with a username (not just an email address). You also specify your email address when you create this account. When you do that you will automatically find that you can access info about the lists you are subscribed to
(in this case specifically the bb)
But here is the key. When you go to your account profile, you can add additional email addresses and designate one of them to be primary. The primary email is where you get mail from the lists, but you can also send from the other addresses that you add.
So it is working as expected. It was just not terribly clear what to expect. Sorry about that...
73,
Burns WB1FJ (not doing IT, but I was a guinea pig for this conversion)
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Folks, you need to create a whole new account with a non-email username. Include your email (or maybe you add it afterwards) and it will connect you will the mailing list that you are on. So the deal is that your mailman login is NOT your email address. I hope that helps. I wrote something about it to others when we converted some local lists. Let me see if I can find it.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Dean Berglund deanberg2044@gmail.com wrote:
I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
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*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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I hope that someone sends out a tutorial again about this. Someone helped and got me back on the list but I have no idea how to make changes or what my password is. And it still doesn't seem to recognize that I'm a member.
Rick, W2JAZ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:49 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Ok, I have discovered that I was wrong on one point (thanks Rich). You CAN use your email address as a username. Just recognize that you are still CREATING A NEW ACCOUNT even if your email address is already signed up for a mailing list. And also you have to use the account section in the upper right (thanks Frank). Do not select a list before you create your account.
Hoping this helps...73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:55 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Ok, here it is. And remember most of you are only on the bb. Please do not subscribe to any of the internal lists if you see them (we are trying to fix that).
First, you have a single account on mailman. You can login at
mailman.amsat.org. If you have not done so before, you will need to create an account with a username (not just an email address). You also specify your email address when you create this account. When you do that you will automatically find that you can access info about the lists you are subscribed to
(in this case specifically the bb)
But here is the key. When you go to your account profile, you can add additional email addresses and designate one of them to be primary. The primary email is where you get mail from the lists, but you can also send from the other addresses that you add.
So it is working as expected. It was just not terribly clear what to expect. Sorry about that...
73,
Burns WB1FJ (not doing IT, but I was a guinea pig for this conversion)
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Folks, you need to create a whole new account with a non-email username. Include your email (or maybe you add it afterwards) and it will connect you will the mailing list that you are on. So the deal is that your mailman login is NOT your email address. I hope that helps. I wrote something about it to others when we converted some local lists. Let me see if I can find it.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Dean Berglund deanberg2044@gmail.com wrote:
I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up!
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
*From: *Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM *To: *Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com *Cc: *Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org *Subject: *Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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I am now receiving every single email immediately. And the ssytem will not let me log in because it says it is sending me a verification email. And that is the one email I am not getting! so now my yahoo account is clogged with all these single messages.
can the sysop please either log me in or at the very least put my prefeernces back to what they were?? 73 de andy g0sfj
On Tuesday, 8 December 2020, 06:33:18 GMT, Richard Lawn rjlawn@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that someone sends out a tutorial again about this. Someone helped and got me back on the list but I have no idea how to make changes or what my password is. And it still doesn't seem to recognize that I'm a member. Rick, W2JAZ On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:49 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Ok, I have discovered that I was wrong on one point (thanks Rich). You CAN use your email address as a username. Just recognize that you are still CREATING A NEW ACCOUNT even if your email address is already signed up for a mailing list. And also you have to use the account section in the upper right (thanks Frank). Do not select a list before you create your account. Hoping this helps...73, Burns WB1FJ On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:55 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Ok, here it is. And remember most of you are only on the bb. Please do not subscribe to any of the internal lists if you see them (we are trying to fix that).
First, you have a single account on mailman. You can login at mailman.amsat.org. If you have not done so before, you will need to create an account with a username (not just an email address). You also specify your email address when you create this account. When you do that you will automatically find that you can access info about the lists you are subscribed to
(in this case specifically the bb) But here is the key. When you go to your account profile, you can add additional email addresses and designate one of them to be primary. The primary email is where you get mail from the lists, but you can also send from the other addresses that you add.
So it is working as expected. It was just not terribly clear what to expect. Sorry about that... 73, Burns WB1FJ(not doing IT, but I was a guinea pig for this conversion) On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
Folks, you need to create a whole new account with a non-email username. Include your email (or maybe you add it afterwards) and it will connect you will the mailing list that you are on. So the deal is that your mailman login is NOT your email address. I hope that helps. I wrote something about it to others when we converted some local lists. Let me see if I can find it. On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Dean Berglund deanberg2044@gmail.com wrote:
I did exactly as the email said to do it. You have to create a new account. The lists you are currently signed up for do transfer over for you automatically. I had no problem. You should have no problem as long as you follow the steps one at a time as it says in the email from Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com the instructions are also in the pdf file he attached to the email. Dean KC9REN
On 12/7/2020 2:26 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I just tried to resubscribe and it tells me I’m already subscribed but it won’t let me log in. I’d say this is screwed up! On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Acito w1pa@hotmail.com wrote:
I had to “re-create” my account.
b
Bill ACITO | W1PA
From: Richard Lawn Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:19 PM To: Bill Acito Cc: Paul Stoetzer; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Mail Server Upgrade - Please Read - POSSIBLE SCAM!!
Ok, somebody tell me how to get in and make changes to my subscription. I got in but when it asked for my email address and password it didn’t recognize either of my email addresses.
Rick, W2JAZ
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I completed the sign up process several hours ago, but have not received a confirmation email for my email. What steps should I take?
Thanks Frank K6FW
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On Dec 7, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman sof tware that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
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Thank you Matt and all of the members of the IT Team that worked on this; not to mention keeping everything else running smoothly.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 06:38 Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
*AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades*
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
*Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service*
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
*Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman*
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
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Folks,
If you *fully read* through Matthew's instructions, below, and follow exactly those instructions, I believe you'll find the mail upgrade process quite painless. The steps are straightforward, and Matthew does state that preferences did not migrate, so you'll need to update them after you've got your account set up.
There's been a lot of mail about issues people are having. It seems to me that a significant proportion of those come from people trying to wing it and / or not reading in detail before starting.
Martin. KD6YAM
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:38 AM Matthew Alberti matthewalberti@gmail.com wrote:
AMSAT Community, Please see below regarding the recent upgrade of the email system.
*AMSAT-NA Mailman Upgrades*
AMSAT’s IT team has been working to upgrade the Mailman software that supports mailing lists (aka reflectors, listserv, BB, etc). This upgrade became necessary for several reasons, one of which was the release of a new major revision of the Mailman software itself. The new version of Mailman has many improvements, including: an updated web UI, management of all list memberships with a single account, and a web UI for searching and browsing archives.
The upgrade requires existing mail list users to sign up for a “new” account, which will be used to manage their existing list subscriptions and preferences. This will also require everyone to validate their preferences, aliases (if any), etc. Most existing preferences from the previous version of Mailman did not migrate. Please see the procedures below. Please contact postmaster@amsat.org with any questions or concerns regarding this upgrade.
*Procedures to Signup for New Mailman List Service*
• Visit https://mailman.amsat.org
• Click “Signup” in the top right corner.
• Fill out the form. For username, it is recommended that you use your e-mail address.
• You will receive a confirmation e-mail. Click the link in the e-mail, and then click the “Confirm” button.
• Login with your new AMSAT-NA Mailman account.
• Navigate to the User Profile/Settings area by clicking the dropdown at the top right, and selecting “Account” – or Click Here.
• Fill in your First Name, Last Name, time zone and click the “Update” button.
• If you have alternate e-mail addresses you use to subscribe to lists, they can be added using the “E-mail Addresses” tab.
*Notable Changes from Previous Version of Mailman*
• A single account is used to manage your subscription and preferences (and list settings if you are a list owner). Delivery preferences, account updates, and subscription changes can all be made for any list you are a member of, with a single account.
• All archives are now searchable in a web-based interface. See https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty or click the Archives link at the top of the site.
• All e-mails from the Mailman system are encrypted in transit.
• The mail server itself has an updated SPAM detection infrastructure, and improved validation of inbound and outbound messages. This should result in more reliable SPAM detection, and also improved “whitelisting” of legitimate AMSAT-NA e-mails.
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