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Call for Papers--2007 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
by Ford, Steve, WB8IMY 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the 26th Annual ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference to be held September 28-30, 2007 in Hartford, Connecticut. These papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings (you do NOT need to attend the conference to have your paper included in the Proceedings). The submission deadline is July 31, 2007. Please send papers to: Maty Weinberg ARRL 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 or you can make your submission via e-mail to: maty(a)arrl.org Papers will be published exactly as submitted and authors will retain all rights. 73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY ARRL

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Re: FYI -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opportunity
by Tom Clark, K3IO 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

(I posted this a couple of days ago, but it was never released from amsat.org limbo. So I resend. My order for OLPC went in today -- they accept either PayPal or plastic -- Tom) Another thing I gleaned from the OLPC wiki is that it supports FORTH (start at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Forth_Lesson_0). Karl (DJ4ZC) designed Phase-3A back in the late 1970's and the onboard computer (IHU) used the computer language that Karl wrote called IPS (Interpreter for Process Structures) based on FORTH, but with German syntax and multi-tasking real-time support. Several of us (W0PN, W1HDX, ZL1WN, DB2OS & I) ported the German "dialect" of IPS into English and the "Gerglish" IPS has served as the basis for running all the Phase-3 IHUs up thru AO-40 (thanks to the efforts of W4SM and G3RUH). IPS is also planned for P3-E (N4HY already has it running on the new IHU) and probably P5. As another possible AMSAT/OLPC synergy, I can easily envision the OLPC Forth kernel being adapted to real-time control tasks with the addition of Karl's "chain". Although it is really modest compared to the normal laptop, Nick Negroponte and his team has really come up with a platform that has amazing possibilities! Meanwhile, ASUS has introduced their commercial Linux-based "Eee" miniature notebook that is already available ($399 from Amazon <http://www.google.com/pagead/iclk?sa=l&ai=BuJiyAGg3R9XlK4iaeuyDjLIMqprePM7t…>) -- Just Google ASUS Eee <http://www.google.com/search?q=Asus+Eee&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=…> or see the Eee wiki entry <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC#Storage> for details. 73, Tom

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FS: Kenwood TS-790A + IFD board + TNC31S
by Francisco Costa, CT1EAT 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Dear AMSAT friends My pacsat station is for sale: Kenwood TS-790A 144/432/1200 MHz transciever ============================================ with the following extras: * UT-10 1200 MHz module * Symek IFD-B board (for speed up to 76000 bd) and mods: * extended rx (on 3 bands) * 9600 baud tx/rx * 100ms mute disabled * IFD-B board (38400 baud rx) plus: * Hand microphone * DC cable * Instruction Manual (in english) include schematics * External Control Instruction Manual (in english) * Modifications documentation (in english) All mods were performed by me and no holes were done. This equipment was bought new (1997), and until now there was not a single problem! It was kept on a non smoking environment. Cosmetic is a 8/10 (one minor dent, sort of paint bubble and 4 rotator control box feet "stain", all on top cover) Unfortunatly I don't have the original box anymore. Sorry TNC Symek TNC31S ================ * Tx 9600/Rx 38400 baud card * 128kb RAM * 512kb Flash-EPROM * English mailbox * Kiss autostart including: * RS232 cable plus adapter (DB9) * DC cable * Diskette with software * Original Manuals (english and german) This TNC was bought new (2000), and was used on UO-36 and Tiungsat-1 with great sucess. I did't use it since a long time ago, but I belive it's 100% operational. Cosmetic is 9/10. I will only sale the 2 items together. Price: 1500 Euro Buyer pays shipping. Payment methods: Euro countries: Bank money transfer only! Elsewhere: Western Union or PayPal. Photos: please visit http://ct1eatsale.no.sapo.pt/ Thanks for your attention. See you on P3E or Eagle. 73 F.Costa, CT1EAT www.qsl.net/ct1eat

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Activacion CX1AA via Satelites
by CE3SOC Raul Romero 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

mas info aqui http://www.zona12.cl/avisos/veraviso.php?cat=95&de=1555 saludos Raul CA3SOC --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Carlos To: LUSAT-1(a)gruposyahoo.com.ar Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: [LUSAT-1] ENTREVISTAS DE RADIOAFICION Hola a todos: En el programa de hoy tenemos una entrevista con Diego Salom LU8ADX radioaficionado argentino, responsable del boletín de dx en castellano. Después EA3RE Toni, nos comentara las palabras tecnicas oidas en la entrevista y que podremos añadir al DICCIONARIO DE LA RADIOAFICION. El programa ENTREVISTAS DE RADIOAFICION no se hace responsable de las opiniones de sus entrevistados. Para escuchar, bajar y/o ver estos archivos, esta la siguiente direccion: http://radioaficion.podomatic.com ENTREVISTAS DE RADIOAFICION esta en podcast. Hemos puesto un enlace para la sindicacion de contenidos de podcast http://radioaficion.podomatic.com/rr2.xml Si acaso es de vuestro interes ver donde esta situada la pagina, es la siguiente http://radioaficion.podomatic.com donde os podeis suscribir y mandar un email a radioaficion(a)podomatic.com para recibir informacion de la emision de los programas. Hemos subido un video en esta dirección que trata sobre COMO HACER UN DIPOLO. Una explicación llevada paso a paso y que nos permitirá aprender con imágenes, algo tan sencillo como elemental. Esta pensado para los que empiezan en nuestra aficion. Lo podéis ver, oir o bajar a partir de ahora en http://radioaficion.podomatic.com Como siempre gracias y hasta la proxima semana ENTREVISTAS DE RADIOAFICION CUARTO DE CHISPAS Juan Carlos Montalvo ea2aov(a)gmail.com ¿Quieres recibir todas las semanas el enlace en tu ordenador para oir, ver y/o bajar directamente estos programas, subscribete en la siguiente direccion: http://www.egrupos.net/grupo/entrevistasea2aov/alta __._,_.___ Mensajes con este tema (0) Responder (mediante la Web) | Crear un tema nuevo Mensajes | Archivos | Fotos | Marcadores | Base de datos | Agenda GRUPO LU-ESCUELAS LA RADIO UN CAMINO SEGURO Y SIN PELIGROS http://www.lu-escuelas.com.ar/ ------------------------------------------------------------- *** ¿¿¿ENTRASTE AL MERCADO DE PULGAS HOY??? *** http://www.lusat.com.ar/mercado ------------------------------------------------------------- Modificar la configuración mediante la Web (ID de Yahoo! obligatoria) Modificar la configuración mediante el correo: Cambiar a resumen diario | Cambiar el formato a Tradicional Visita tu grupo | Condiciones de uso de Yahoo! Grupos | Cancelar suscripción Actividad reciente a.. 2Miembros nuevos Visita tu grupo Y! Respuestas Pregunt?/a> Gente real te responde Yahoo! Messenger Mensajero perfecto Llam?de PC a PC sin costo alguno Barra Yahoo! Todo a un toque Acceso rápido a servicios Yahoo! . __,_._,___

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hamfest/demo tomorrow (1 December)
by Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hi! I will be part of the AMSAT table at the Superstition Amateur Radio Club's hamfest in Mesa, Arizona, tomorrow morning. The hamfest is at Mesa Community College, on Dobson Road between Southern Avenue and the US-60 freeway (exit 177). The club has a web page with hamfest info at: http://wb7tjd.org/hamfest/ I will be doing AO-51 demonstrations during the 1515 and 1649 UTC passes from the hamfest as WD9EWK, weather permitting. It is currently (Friday at 2020 UTC) raining here, and there is a chance for rain tomorrow morning. Unless the hamfest site turns into a swamp and/or there is lightning in the sky tomorrow morning, I hope to be on for both of those passes. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX
by John W Lee 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Speaking of satellite DX, I don't know if I've seen a messge about this or not. There is a group of folks down at XF4 Revilla Gigedo for at least a week now. XF4YW (XE2YW) has been on the FM birds from time to time. They will be there for several more days. That would be grid DK48 off the west coast of Mexico. 73, John K6YK

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Re: Satellite Rigs, whats available
by Reicher, James 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

I'd recommend the Yaesu FT-847 over the Icom for these reasons: 1. The 847 has 160M thru 70cm in one box. This means that when AO7 comes up in mode A, you don't have to use a separate rig for the 10M downlink. You'll have all the other bands as well, 160, 80, 60, 40, 30, 20, 17, 15, 12, 10, & 6 meters, as well as 2 meters and 70cm 2. The 847, which is out of production, can be had for much less money than an IC910. I got mine for about $850. I typically see 910's selling used, without the 1.2GHz option, for about $1,000. 3. You can more easily find and install a different mike on an 847, since they don't require a special type of mike. 4. The IC910s I've dealt with tend to develop a situation where the displayed frequency does not match the actual frequency. 2 meters is usually about 3 KHz off while 70cm gets about 9 KHz off. This can get nasty to use for someone who's not familiar with the rig. 5. CAT control of the rig is as simple as running a null-modem cable from the back of the rig to a serial port on your computer. The 910H requires a CTV or whatever they call it to interface to your computer. 6. While it doesn't have a 1.2GHz option, you can still use a transverter, which tends to be much less expensive than the Icom 1.2GHz optional unit. 7. It is also packet-ready, as well as all the other digital modes. 8. DSP filtering is built-in and comes standard. 9. Less menu driven than the Icom unit. In short, the 847 is more versatile, easier to interface with the rest of your station, and less expensive than the Icom. 73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO (ex-N8AU) Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:03:50 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: George Henry <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Rigs, whats available To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <25485375.1196438630891.JavaMail.root(a)elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Other than my old Drake B-line twins with the 2-meter transmit and receive converters (think RS-10/11, RS-12/13, and RS-15), I have only used the Icom IC-275/475H combo and the 910H. After borrowing a 910 for Field Day one year, I immediately went out and bought my own. I didn't even look at anything else, and I love it. Sensitive RX, plenty of TX power when needed, 1.2 GHz with the optional UX-910, easy to interface to the computer, 9600 packet-ready, and great for terrestrial work as well. I have the DSP and high-stability options in mine, as well. George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- >From: MM <ka1rrw(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Nov 30, 2007 7:33 AM >To: Amsat-BB bb <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Rigs, whats available > >Satellite Rigs, what?s available > >I am planning on building a new satellite club station >for an organization. I am now putting together a bid >for the club satiaton. The only glitch is what radio >to use. >The primary usage for this satellite club station will >be FM Satellites and Leo?s. >I would prefer to use a dedicated Satellite Rig and >not a HF rig with 2 meters and 440 stuffed in. >I have used the Icom-910 and the legendary Yaseu >FT-736R. The Yaseu FT-736R has been out of production >for many years, however I am seriously considering buy >a few for the club station on the used market. The >built in FM center tuning meter and the Normal and >Narrow FM filers make it ideal for this type of setup. > >So what is out that that?s new? > >Thanks, Miles wf1f > > >PS, ISS was back on Packet last night 145.825 >simplex. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat-bb(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 750 ****************************************

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Tracking the A/N Football Run now underway!
by Robert Bruninga 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

!The Naval Academy game ball is underway for Baltimore! ! !The live APRS tracking of the runners with the game ball !can be viewed on the USNA Radio Club's W3ADO web page !For the next 24 hours: ! !http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/fball2007.html ! !Check the route and on your way home, drive by and !give them the wave! ! !If you forget the web page, Google can usually find !" USNA football run".. But be sure to select the !2007 run and not the many previous ones. ! !Enjoy! !Bob Bruninga !USNA Satellite Lab x36417

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FW: Re: Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: w7lrd(a)comcast.net To: archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com Cc: ansat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:43:12 +0000 HEllo I believe it is true that many countries do not allow operation near 432. I have also heard it is questionable here in the USA. While in mode A (AO7) I have made several attempts to shake loose a JA or some northern UK gent where I have a very short window at times, even a piece of Europe for some footprint streaching fun. In the days of RS15 I was able to do this fairly regularly and had many sub 4 degree QSO's to the other side of the footprint. It takes good and quick operation and a competent guy at the other end. My opinion is," if this were easy, everyone would be doing it". Generally speaking we all love a challange, at least that's what keeps my passion for amateur radio alive. I have a fantastic mentor in Joe K0VTY as well a Clair VE3NPC both of whom have forgot more that I can ever learn. There's Central and northern South america of which I have hever hear a peep out of. I had a new aquantnce in the shack yesterday who was considering satellites. AO7 (mode A) came up through the mid west and I had a nice chat with Joe K3SZH ( who I think probably owes the bird hihi). This visitor just lite up , like the perverbial bug latched on. Can we get a front page blurb in QST on the assets of AO7? This is what got me going back in the days of RS10 and 12/13. When I'm on the HF bands at times I will "steer" the converation to satellies and attempt to simplify this "complex" mode that many believe it is. It is incumbenton all of us to "push" this fantastic method. 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle -------------- Original message -------------- From: John Hackett <archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com> > > Gents, > > I suggest each and every one of us sends the relavant mail to every national > society requesting it be published in their magazine/newsletter to attempt to > generate satellite interest in the countries where there is coverage but no > operation. > > There are several countries where a potential newcomer could "rake-in" the > satellite certificates quicker than you can say "AO-7 is a damned good satellite > when it's used properly". > > Again, I've batted this over to the States in case they suffer from the same > kind of inactivity in some of the states. > > Let's educate! a few new operators ... not blind 'em with science. > > 73 John. > > To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com > From: sv1bsx(a)yahoo.gr > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:30:24 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning John & Group, > > you have absolutely right about DXing and AO-7. My > location is a mere example, it's in very good position for orbits over West > & Middle Asia. Africa too. > > However, the Satellite traffic above these areas is very > poor. > > Except of some former Soviet-Union countries (but > just a few), the rest Asia is like a Ham-desert. I have sent several times > Emails, for example to Indian hams requesting a > sked in order to make a contact with VU. Nothing at all ! And &a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;g t; ; keep in mind, VU-land is a new-one for me on > Satellites - but "NO luck" ! (..and my surspise is big enough especially with > VU, as this country has in orbit a HAM Satellite - see VO-52)! > > > I don't know if the Afganistan & > Pakistan have anyone active on Sats. I don't think so. Also the Middle > East, just a few peoples they are active, I remember > the 4X & OD-lands. > > Africa? he he.... here is the real desert > ! TR8CA was active, but he is not anylonger. ZS-land has several peoples, > but never I heard somebody on AO-7. And it's a real DX > that for me, over 7000 Km ! > > Therefore, I agree with your comment however I'm > thinking: > > "too much DXCC entities but.... just a few peoples" !!! > > > Ironically, the 1/4 of planet seems to be without > population ! > > > Q: c ould be th e EU- AmS at Group the campaign leader (with > Emails etc), in order to activate some peoples from these countries on AO-7 > ? > > It's a good challenge, I think. > > Have a nice day > > 73 de Mak, SV1BSX > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > John Hackett > To: Eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com > Cc: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 > 09:29 > Subject: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX > > Stop whinging! ... > > No DX you say ... have a look at the > AO-7 orbit 51201 on Friday the 30th of November 2007 from 05:55 to > 06:00. > > > > This orbit covered more sixty !!! entities (DXCC > countries) including northeast China, Mongolia, northern India, > Pakistan, Afghanistan, > all 18 of the earlier Soviet republics , the entir e > E urop ean continent, the entire Middle East and most of the central and north > African countries. > > > > No DX? ... Rubbish !!!. > > I battet this > over to the Amsat-bb so our American friends can see what "can" be worked from > Europe. > > I'm sure certain orbits would allow most of the states and > even parts of central America on some orbit (?) ... I'm just too bone-idle to > check it out. > > > > 73 John. > > > > > > > > > > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 071127-0, 11/27/2007 > Tested on: 11/30/2007 12:30:28 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > > > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > > &g t; > Message s in this topic (0) > > > > Reply (via web post) > | > > Start a new topic > > > > > Messages > | Files > | Photos > | Links > | Database > | Polls > | Members > | Calendar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format > to Traditional > > > > Visit Your Group > | > > Yahoo! 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Need Daiwa CN-520
by Anthony Japha 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Greetings, Anyone have a Daiwa CN-520 SWR meter they'd be willing to sell? It's the small (2 3/4' square) meter for HF with no controls on the front and 200 watt and 2000 watt scales. I'd like to build it into a tuner. Tnx and 73, Tony, N2UN

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Ofcom Announce Olympic Radio Spectrum Consultation
by Trevor 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Interesting to see they are considering 60 GHz for Video links. Lets hope were possible they make use of these in preference to some frequencies lower down the spectrum. http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/olympic_radio_spectrum_consul… Those in range of the European SKY satellite TV system may be interested in this program: Hubble Telescope - Satellite Night BBC 4 Sunday http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/hubble_telescope.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA --------------- Daily Amateur Radio RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email your news items to: editor at southgatearc.org News On Your Website: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/index.htm News On Your PC: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/newsreader.htm Upload Your News: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news.htm --------------- __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX
by John Hackett 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Gents, I suggest each and every one of us sends the relavant mail to every national society requesting it be published in their magazine/newsletter to attempt to generate satellite interest in the countries where there is coverage but no operation. There are several countries where a potential newcomer could "rake-in" the satellite certificates quicker than you can say "AO-7 is a damned good satellite when it's used properly". Again, I've batted this over to the States in case they suffer from the same kind of inactivity in some of the states. Let's educate! a few new operators ... not blind 'em with science. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com From: sv1bsx(a)yahoo.gr Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:30:24 +0200 Subject: Re: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX Good morning John & Group, you have absolutely right about DXing and AO-7. My location is a mere example, it's in very good position for orbits over West & Middle Asia. Africa too. However, the Satellite traffic above these areas is very poor. Except of some former Soviet-Union countries (but just a few), the rest Asia is like a Ham-desert. I have sent several times Emails, for example to Indian hams requesting a sked in order to make a contact with VU. Nothing at all ! And keep in mind, VU-land is a new-one for me on Satellites - but "NO luck" ! (..and my surspise is big enough especially with VU, as this country has in orbit a HAM Satellite - see VO-52)! I don't know if the Afganistan & Pakistan have anyone active on Sats. I don't think so. Also the Middle East, just a few peoples they are active, I remember the 4X & OD-lands. Africa? he he.... here is the real desert ! TR8CA was active, but he is not anylonger. ZS-land has several peoples, but never I heard somebody on AO-7. And it's a real DX that for me, over 7000 Km ! Therefore, I agree with your comment however I'm thinking: "too much DXCC entities but.... just a few peoples" !!! Ironically, the 1/4 of planet seems to be without population ! Q: could be the EU-AmSat Group the campaign leader (with Emails etc), in order to activate some peoples from these countries on AO-7 ? It's a good challenge, I think. Have a nice day 73 de Mak, SV1BSX ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hackett To: Eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com Cc: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 09:29 Subject: [eu-amsat] Satellite DX Stop whinging! ... No DX you say ... have a look at the AO-7 orbit 51201 on Friday the 30th of November 2007 from 05:55 to 06:00. This orbit covered more sixty !!! entities (DXCC countries) including northeast China, Mongolia, northern India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all 18 of the earlier Soviet republics, the entire European continent, the entire Middle East and most of the central and north African countries. No DX? ... Rubbish !!!. I battet this over to the Amsat-bb so our American friends can see what "can" be worked from Europe. I'm sure certain orbits would allow most of the states and even parts of central America on some orbit (?) ... I'm just too bone-idle to check it out. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071127-0, 11/27/2007 Tested on: 11/30/2007 12:30:28 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 2 New Members 1 New Files Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Real Food Group Share recipes and favorite meals. 10 pairs of tickets a day from Yahoo! Fly home for the Holidays for free. Official Samsung Yahoo! Group for supporting your HDTVs and devices. . __,_._,___

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AO-7 Report.
by John Hackett 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

I wonder how many people make the mistake of thinking AO-7 is not transmitting (when it is) but the receiving equipment isn't adequate. An illustration ... on orbit 51203 at 09:32 this morning, 30-11-07 at the start of the orbit I heard nothing at all ... absolutely nothing! from AO-7. However, switching the polarisation of my aerials to vertical (from horizontal) resulted in a received signal of S3 ... and as the orbit progressed, the signal strength incread and the polarisation changed another two times on that particular orbit. Remember !!! ... the propagation to all intents and purposes is different at various QTH's ... so the result at one QTH - (for instance, signal report) - is highly likely to be quite different at another QTH. I would advise using your EARS !!! as a reference because meters are a complete waste of time in this particular situation/application. I would thoroughly recommend switchable polarisation for LEO's. It doesn't have to be commercial and expensive. Mine doesn't even use coaxial relays - and it's built into an aluminium lunchbox ... don't laugh!, they're cheap and RF tight. There's a full explanation on OBSERVATIONS ... (http://www.observations.biz) of why I don't bother with circular polarisation on LEO satellites. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Re: Terrestrial repeater interference to AO-27
by John W Lee 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

What I've been hearing on AO-27 sounds like simplex chatter. No squelch tail, etc. Unless we are hearing the input side of a repeater (the users). They seem to show up just about every day in the afternoon, and I can never understand the callsigns when they give them. 73 John K6YK On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:42:26 -0800 (PST) Bob Stewart <bob(a)evoria.net> writes: > I heard some random non-sat related chatter recently on AO-27, > as well as some odd blocking on SO-50. I haven't gone back in > monitor mode, though. If it starts to be a big problem again, > I suppose can start recording the "good" pass on AO-27 like > last time. Good point about CTCSS, Drew. > > Bob - AE6RV > > --- Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > > > I talked to one of the control ops via Echolink a few weeks ago > and he said > > it had been moved. I can't verify it. It was a simplex echolink > link into a > > repeater. There were actually two of them, one on 145.850, and the > other on > > 145.925. > > > > I didn't know anyone else was working on this. Had he not said > they had been > > moved Riley was going to be my next call! Thanks for your > efforts. > > > > This sort of thing is one of the reasons we shouldn't use CTCSS on > satellite > > uplinks unless we have to.... > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> > > To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:59 PM > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Terrestrial repeater interference to AO-27 > > > > > > > Has anyone heard that rogue repeater thru AO-27 recently? I > received a > > > phone call from Riley this afternoon, following up on my > complaint about > > > the repeater, and he wanted to know if it was still on the air. > It is > > > located too far from my home QTH to hear directly, and my > satellite > > > antennas are down at the moment. The one time I *did* hear it > on the > > > ground (early October), I was out mobile and much closer to it > than when I > > > am at home, but I haven't been up that way (northern suburbs of > Chicago) > > > for quite a while. > > > > > > George, KA3HSW > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > > > Subscription settings: > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >

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Symbian prediction software
by John Hackett 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

To whom it may concern, A portable satellite station can be as small and simple as a dual-mode handheld plus a 3/4 wave whip - (AO-51). It isn't always convenient to lug a laptop around but almost everybody carries a mobile phone in their pocket. Pass prediction programs are available for Windows mobile and certain PDA devices but none - (that I can assertain) - for the Symbian series 60 operating system ... of which there are a*LOT*. Now, if you happen to be a"wapper" - (pun intentional) - you can get online predictions from the internet - but it's an inconvenient and "finnicky" way of doing things. Is there anyone out there capabable of writing a pass prediction program for the Symbian series 60 mobile phone operating system?. (NB - not everybody has the "latest" phone, that's why the Series 60 would be the best option for a Symbian system). The program doesn't need to have fancy graphics and logos, those are just a waste of space - (again, pun intentional) - a simple prediction table would suffice - showing date, time azimuth, elevation and range. The other criteria are not necessary when you're operating portable. I did suggest this to Emily N1DID a couple of year ago but nothing came of it. If anyone is capable - (and willing) - to write such a program I would be *MOST* interested. Surely it's cheaper to write a Symbian program than to buy a new phone that uses existing software ... like the Predict program on Windows mobile ?. Anyone willing to take up the challenge? ... (to save me purchasing a new phone). 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Satellite DX
by John Hackett 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Stop whinging! ... No DX you say ... have a look at the AO-7 orbit 51201 on Friday the 30th of November 2007 from 05:55 to 06:00. This orbit covered more sixty !!! entities (DXCC countries) including northeast China, Mongolia, northern India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all 18 of the earlier Soviet republics, the entire European continent, the entire Middle East and most of the central and north African countries. No DX? ... Rubbish !!!. I battet this over to the Amsat-bb so our American friends can see what "can" be worked from Europe. I'm sure certain orbits would allow most of the states and even parts of central America on some orbit (?) ... I'm just too bone-idle to check it out. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Terrestrial repeater interference to AO-27
by George Henry 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Has anyone heard that rogue repeater thru AO-27 recently? I received a phone call from Riley this afternoon, following up on my complaint about the repeater, and he wanted to know if it was still on the air. It is located too far from my home QTH to hear directly, and my satellite antennas are down at the moment. The one time I *did* hear it on the ground (early October), I was out mobile and much closer to it than when I am at home, but I haven't been up that way (northern suburbs of Chicago) for quite a while. George, KA3HSW

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Re: Just worked AO51 with my new Arrow
by John Marranca, Jr 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Ed: Fantastic! You know...I have an RCA digital recorder and I STILL forget to turn the bloody thing on! Nevertheless, congratulations! -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Just worked AO51 with my new Arrow
by Ed Tump 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Folks, I just got my Arrow sat antenna this afternoon and put it together. Very nice product and easy to assemble. I mounted it on a tripod and checked Orbitron. With the Packer game coming up I thought I would just leave it in the den where I put it together. I thought hey, tomorrow I can try it out. But Orbitron told me that the pass for AO-51 was coming over soon. I thought this thing will never work inside and in the den. But that Arrow sure did work. I was so excited and happy I did not even hook up the tape recorder. So I did make my second satellite contact, the first with AO-51, and the first with my Arrow. I believe I made contact with grid FN42. Could not remember call sign. If anyone heard any of the details I would love to know. Thanks! 73, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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Instanttrack Altitude?
by Robert Bruninga 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Looking at the latest re-entry plot, why does Instantrack show an altitude that is 10km below the official prediction? This is using an EPOC TLE of 26 November, Instantrack shows 239.5 km Avaerage altitude. What do other programs show? http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: aprssig-bounces(a)lists.tapr.org > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:09 PM > To: aprssig(a)lists.tapr.org > Subject: [aprssig] ANDE -APRS Re-Entry Campaign > > ANDE-APRS Re-Entry Campaign: > > The ANDE-MAA satellite (Nav Oscar - 61) will de-orbit in the > next few weeks but is fully operational. We encourage activity, > because while it is in use (2m packet up/down), then it is awake > and sending telemetry. We want to capture the most telemetry to > see if we can catch the thermal changes as re-entry approaches. > > Who can capture the last telemetry frame? > > The most important telemetry is that which is fed live by IGate > into the APRS-IS system. Because that is automatically logged > and time stamped. > You can verify your data got in by looking at the > http://pcsat.aprs.org web page after each pass. > > If you manually capture any packets, Please take special care to > accurately LOG the TIME of any packets received especially in > the final day prior to re-entry. See the contest page below for > how to submit entries: > > Here is the ANDE Operations web page. It has links to live > telemetry too: > http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html > > And this one is the CONTEST for data collection and operations > sponsored by PA3GUO and DK3WN: > http://www.ande-deorbit.com > > Any APRS station that is also on the internet can contribute > telemetry by simply QSY'ing their normal APRS rig receiver to > 145.825 on that final day. > > If you do not normally run APRS or an IGate, then you can simply > download ALOGGER.EXE which is a full up IGate designed just for > satelite gating without having to learn APRS. See Bill's web > page: > http://www.billdiaz.dynip.com/ASatLogger.htm > > ANDE is coming over the northern latitudes in the afternoons and > evenings local sun time, but this pattern moves earlier by 14 > minutes per day. > Just monitor 145.825 MHz. > > Enjoy! > Bob, WB4APR > > > > _______________________________________________ > aprssig mailing list > aprssig(a)lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig >

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AMSAT Awards
by Bruce 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Awards this week are: We would like to welcome the following to the satellite community. They have made their first satellite contact and are now members of the AMSAT Satellite Communicators Club. Richard Silva, WA6ES AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Juergen Pape, DF7WIN, #145 AMSAT W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement Award Basic Chris Martin, KG7EZ, 2K, 3K, 4K endorsements AMSAT W4AMI Satellite Operator Achievement Award 5,000 Chris Martin, KG7EZ, #20 To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or http://www.amsatnet.com Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on W0KIE Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com

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Satellites at the Peace Conference
by Robert Bruninga 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

For the Peace Conference, the Academy was cordoned off, students prohibited from going on that side of the Yard, and photos of the proceedings were prohibited. The Academy was locked down the whole day, including all WEB page servers. To see the Satellite Technology, however, I put together this web page for the students in our Satellite Labs: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/PressStuff.html WB4APR

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How to receive OSCAR telemetry and setup APRS system
by Hamradio .9m 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Dear all, I've been struggling with packet satellite since day one and I have two questions pertaining my Amateur Satellite Ground Station. 1. I'm new to MixW and very interested to know more about MixW configuration to receive Packet Satellite telemetry specifics for OSCAR. I have bought one complete package which included MixW software, RigExpert plus and interface cable. Unfortunately, till today I can't even decode any OSCAR telemetry either by using RigExpert or TNC. 2. My next question is how to operate my station as APRS? I'm be able to receive somthing from ARISS but the signal is not digipeated. The data as follow; > 9W2NRL/ISS>CQ>UI,C,F0: > HELLO FROM 9W2NRL > RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): > >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) How do I verify the packet is really transmitted on air? My station is equipped with X-Yagi Antenna, UHF Preamp, IC-921, FT-817 and KAM-XL. In the software part, I used GSC and WxTrack for tracking and MixW. A million thanks for your suggestion and guidance. -- 73 Nuril 9W2NRL

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Re: Weather Effect
by John Marranca, Jr 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

How old is your coax? John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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LUSAT-OSCAR 19 beacon
by Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Hello, Today I was monitoring the LO-19 cw beacon on 437.125 and noticed that there is always a small signal present between the cw telemetry blocks. The beacon transmit about 750mW. The small signal is about 30db down, so I guess it must be around 1mW. Does anybody have some more info (power?) about this unsupressed carrier signal? 73 Rob PE1ITR

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Problems Reading ANS Bulletins
by Clive Wallis 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Hi, Some time ago there was a discussion about formatting of ANS buttetins from Lee KU4OS. I'm finding it impossible to read some of these bulletins. Four recent ones are 245, 266,308, 329. I think that these may have been sent as MIME encoded attachments, instead of being sent in plain text. Here is a bit of what my text based mail reader sees - QU1TQVQgTkVXUyBTRVJWSUNFCkFOUy0zMjkKCkFOUyBpcyBhIGZyZWUsIHdlZWtseSwgbmV3cyBhbmQgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gc2VydmljZSBvZiBBTVNBVCBOb3J0aCBBbWVyaWNhLCAKVGhlIFJhZGlvIEFtYXRldXIgU2F0ZWxsaXRlIENvcnBvcmF0aW9uLiBBTlMgcmVwb3J0cyBvbiB0aGUgYWN0XZpdGllcyBvZiBhCndvcmxkd2lkZSBncm91cCBvZiBBbWF0ZXVyIFJhZGlvIG9wZXJhdG9ycyB3a Could these bulletins be resent to ANS as plain text? Alternatively, are they available for download anywhere. I couldn't find the complete bulletins on the Amsat Website, only individual items of news. The archive didn't include any for 2007. Any help would be appreciated. 73 Clive G3CWV Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.

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Hardline available
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Hello Switching to LMR coax with an amp near the antenna and I have a lot of hardline I want to unload. About 125 feet (one piece) of Cablewave systems 16733-810921-001 (not sure what that number is) FLC-78-50. Also about 300 feet (about 4 pieces total) of GCC-AL-500P 1/2 inch. Pick up or I'll meet you half way if you're within 150 miles of Seattle. I don't know what this stuff is worth, will sell or trade for whatever ( I could use a vhf/ufh mobile). Also on ebay some tunable connectors for 7/8 hardline. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110199802903&ssPage… XYL says I'm collecting too much stuff. 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle

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Re: Weather Effect
by David Donaldson 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

John What you want to look for is the propagation effects of weather on the frequencies you are using on the satellite. ARRL has some info on its site for 2 meter and UHF. There are other sites that focus on microwave freqs such as 1.2 and 2.4 Ghz. As you found googling "sats and wx" are going to bring up sites related to geostationary sats. The weather effects will be the same between sats and terrestial use. It is possible to have weather caused refraction on your up link or downlink causing the signal strength to be have higher loss then normal line of sight. Hope my ramblings help. Dave Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless by DAVE DONALDSON-Burnsville MN Amateur radio: WB7DRU Navy Mars: NNN0AXK ---- Original Message ---- From: "John Henderson" <jah(a)ec.rr.com> Date: 11/27/07 12:10 pm To: "amsat-bb(a)amsat.org" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subj: [amsat-bb] Weather Effect My reception on the LEO's has deteriorated over the last week. During this period we have had some rain but mostly overcast with thunderstorms within 50-60 miles. I have checked all the connections, etc on the antenna. The noise is sporadic hum and lots of QRN. I have searched for " effects of wx on amateur sats" but turned up nothing. Was hoping someone could point me to some info on wx and sats; I know it has some effect on Direct TV etc but need to get to the source of my problem. It is there with the PA on and off... Thanks John John Henderson N4NAB 212 Bayside Drive Cape Carteret, NC 28584 252-725-2744 <mailto:[email protected]> n4nab(a)amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/> http://www.amsat.org/ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

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ANDE Re-Entry Campaign
by Robert Bruninga 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

ANDE Re-Entry Campaign: The ANDE-MAA satellite (Nav Oscar - 61) will de-orbit in the next few weeks but is fully operational. We encourage activity, because while it is in use (2m packet up/down), then it is awake and sending telemetry. We want to capture the most telemetry to see if we can catch the thermal changes as re-entry approaches. Who can capture the last telemetry frame? The most important telemetry is that which is fed live by IGate into the APRS-IS system. Because that is automatically logged and time stamped. You can verify your data got in by looking at the http://pcsat.aprs.org web page after each pass. If you manually capture any packets, Please take special care to accurately LOG the TIME of any packets received especially in the final day prior to re-entry. See the contest page below for how to submit entries: Here is the ANDE Operations web page. It has links to live telemetry too: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html And this one is the CONTEST for data collection and operations sponsored by PA3GUO and DK3WN: http://www.ande-deorbit.com Any APRS station that is also on the internet can contribute telemetry by simply QSY'ing their normal APRS rig receiver to 145.825 on that final day. If you do not normally run APRS or an IGate, then you can simply download ALOGGER.EXE which is a full up IGate designed just for satelite gating without having to learn APRS. See Bill's web page: http://www.billdiaz.dynip.com/ASatLogger.htm ANDE is coming over the northern latitudes in the afternoons and evenings local sun time, but this pattern moves earlier by 14 minutes per day. Just monitor 145.825 MHz. Enjoy! Bob, WB4APR

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Auto Audio Recording
by hobergenix 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Do any of the tracking programs have a audio record function. I would like to track multiple satellites, tune my ft-897, and record the audio. Right now the program that I am useing to record audio has to have the start and stop record times manually programed into it for each bird. Mike N6IMF

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Weather Effect
by John Henderson 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

My reception on the LEO's has deteriorated over the last week. During this period we have had some rain but mostly overcast with thunderstorms within 50-60 miles. I have checked all the connections, etc on the antenna. The noise is sporadic hum and lots of QRN. I have searched for " effects of wx on amateur sats" but turned up nothing. Was hoping someone could point me to some info on wx and sats; I know it has some effect on Direct TV etc but need to get to the source of my problem. It is there with the PA on and off... Thanks John John Henderson N4NAB 212 Bayside Drive Cape Carteret, NC 28584 252-725-2744 <mailto:[email protected]> n4nab(a)amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/> http://www.amsat.org/

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ANDE Cruising at 240km's
by Henk, PA3GUO 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

All, Just did an update of kepplers in NOVA, this shows ANDE is now cruising at 240km. De-orbit date approaching. Henk, PA3GUO

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WRC-07 IARU Region 1 final report now available
by Trevor 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

WRC-07 IARU Region 1 final report now available http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/wrc07_final_report.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA --------------- Daily Amateur Radio RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email your news items to: editor at southgatearc.org News On Your Website: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/index.htm News On Your PC: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/newsreader.htm Upload Your News: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news.htm --------------- ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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I: The story about Hayabusa..
by Francesco Grappi 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

WONDERFULL !!! While you are watching it......the mind fly so far...... Thank you JAXA ! 73" Francesco IW4DVZ -----Messaggio originale----- Da: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] Per conto di Peter Guelzow Inviato: martedì 27 novembre 2007 0.10 A: AMSAT - Forum; AMSAT Oggetto: [amsat-bb] The story about Hayabusa.. THIS IS A MUST SEE !!!!!! http://spaceinfo.jaxa.jp/inori/en/images/inori_english.wmv or http://spaceinfo.jaxa.jp/inori/en/ What a wonderfull story about "Hayabusa", a spacecraft that explored and landed on an asteroid.. Listen and watch at Fullscreen ! A nice movie to show to your kids during the long winter nights.... Thank you JAXA !! Ohhh.... I'm getting sentimental... AO-40 Wake-Up Wake-Up We are waiting for you... 73s Peter, DB2OS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Drilling of a G-550 results!!!
by Luc Leblanc 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

On 27 Nov 2007 at 1:24, Gennadi Klevtsov wrote: > Hello Luc, > in my G-500A the drain hole is exactly in the middle, > between 2 half of rotor's housing. And it is bottom side, > where boom goes through rotator. > 73! Gennadi > ES1RF/ES3RF > Monday, November 26, 2007, 6:36:18 PM, you wrote: > On 26 Nov 2007 at 13:38, Dave Guimont wrote: > Luc, mine are up on the mast of course, 5500, and I've had the 5400's... > > So now I am going to make a guess... > > Can you crack the case open, a tad, and just let it drain out? > > As I remember one would have to have the rotor removed to do > that...But I'm originally from Northern Minn, 50 miles further north, > and I would have been a Canadian, and actually French-Canadian descent... > > So on the mast, drilling a hole would do no good until maybe a warm March day!! > > Again, I doing a lot of conjecture!! > > I've had my 5400's apart several times to relube, just watch the ball > bearings!! > End of soap show Thank's again Gennadi and Dave for your inputs Eagle as landed!!! I finally get through the rotor casing with a 3/16 drill bit and just before i found "the drain hole" exactly where you tell Gennadi "NEVER INSTALLED THESES ROTOR WITH THE DRAIN HOLE UPWARDS..." As soon as the drill bit pass through the casing there was a fluid leakage who stay flowing in a steady jet for 10 seconds!! and dripping for another 10 seconds with the aid of a metal wire inserted in the hole. Collateral damages 1-Probably a mess inside? rust? corrosion? mildew? and so on... 2-Upper hole plugged with a metal screw plus silicone 3-Struck something when drilling pass through the casing!!! (Not too lucky with lotto ticket...) 4-Meter does not move anymore probably a wire cut or the pot has been stabbed Lets the weather return to the minus 0C again and just watch the rotor Conclusion Rotor will don't freeze in ice anymore (i hope) and i will have to rely on a visual metering system in daylight and on something else overnight. Thank's to my neighbour dog a Labrador moaning and barking after me at the end of his chain during the whole operation... Just forget my pliers and screw- driver down the tower!!! as i am not too lucky with my drilling probably the same with my pitching...JOKE ;) As we can pass in an episode of minus zero C temperature at any moment i don't take any chance and i jump on this +C swing i just remember a past winter with another rotor stuck as water fill in due to a crack in the casing not too happy to have a beam always pointing towards nowhere. To be continued... Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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AO-7 UHF beacon received!
by Auke de Jong, VE6PWN 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

I haven't seen anyone ever say that they heard the beacon on 435.1 lately, so I thought I'd give it a try... I read somewhere that this beacon should be active while the satellite is in mode-a. a quick check of the ao-7 log site showed that the most recent contacts via her were on mode-b as of about 2am UTC, and knowing that her 24 hour timer is working deadly-acurate given continuous sunlight, I knew that by this time it should be in mode-A. I didn't hear anyone on the downlink in mode-a, but I decided to tune for the uhf beacon anyway, and after very faintly hearing something before it was overhead, i finally managed to latch-on as she fell to the horizon in the north. By this time my 7 el beam antenna was blinded by my house, so I changed to the horiz omni 0dB antenna, and then observed, for a few minutes, the doppler-shift-curve of a definite beacon from space. I have taken a screen-capture showing all the pertinent data, and the signal itself on the spectrum display! I think that it's a good thing I hooked up my pre-amp otherwise i might have missed it! after the screen-cap was taken, I observed the signal to "level-off" and then fade-out exactly as predicted LOS via my Orbitron program. Maybe next time I'll be able to point my better antenna at it, and hear what information the beacon might be sending! I read online that it is not a CW message like the VHF one, but rather an FSK modulated one... It's also known to have suffered low output on this beacon intermittently, or perhaps permanently. In that case, I might need a whole lot more antenna just to get a good copy anyway! someone else might be able to do a better job than I with this in mind... I'll post a link to the image which I'll host on my local provider's gratuitous server... it might not live long there however, since I might need the space for something else in the future, so I encourage those interested to save a copy of it on your own computers for later reference. http://members.shaw.ca/sparkycivic/HAM/ao-7%20uhf%20beacon.JPG enjoy... Auke, VE6PWN Edmonton, AB DO33

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Mental Illness - Or Just Too Much Fun?
by Clint Bradford 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

A crummy pass of AO-51 was going to occur in a few minutes for me in DM-13, Riverside, CA. Only 31 degrees of elevation for a couple of minutes, PocketSat told me. And me with only HTs set up to work it. "Whaddaya think, Karen?" - I asked my (most patient woman on the planet) wife. "Well, go ahead and try it," she replied. I wasn't sure if she just wanted me out of the house while she's working on her computer or not. So I went out back, petted the horse and donkey, and sat down on a resin patio chair... And worked three countries at 2.5W on a handheld: friendly guys in Mexico, an Arizona regular, and two gentlemen in Canada. I'm still grinning. What a magnificent hobby. At least this time I didn't disturb my neighbors with, "KAREN - GET OUT HERE!!!" this time. What a thrill. Spread the word of AMSAT to all. Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666

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FS - California Amplifier Model #31732
by w8iss＠amsat.org 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

I hvae one California Amplifier MMDS Model #31732 downconverter for sale. Asking 30 dollars plus shipping which will be ACTUAL shipping cost from 48146 zip code. James W8ISS

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The story about Hayabusa..
by Peter Guelzow 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

THIS IS A MUST SEE !!!!!! http://spaceinfo.jaxa.jp/inori/en/images/inori_english.wmv or http://spaceinfo.jaxa.jp/inori/en/ What a wonderfull story about "Hayabusa", a spacecraft that explored and landed on an asteroid.. Listen and watch at Fullscreen ! A nice movie to show to your kids during the long winter nights.... Thank you JAXA !! Ohhh.... I'm getting sentimental... AO-40 Wake-Up Wake-Up We are waiting for you... 73s Peter, DB2OS

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Re: AMSAT.org website - where to donate?
by Andrew Glasbrenner 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

THere is a link on the front page of the store which takes you here: http://www.amsat-na.com/donation.php Thanks for the donation! 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag(a)amsat.org> >Sent: Nov 26, 2007 5:08 PM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT.org website - where to donate? > >I want to make a small donation to AMSAT-NA (specifically for satellites >which would accessible on a world-wide basis). But, alas, i could only >information about membership and the "President's Club" on-line. Did i >miss something?? It seems like it might be a missed opportunity not to >have information on-line about making a one-time-only donation. > > -- KD6PAG (Networking Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer) >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Logging software
by Ed Tump 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Folks, What logging software works nice with satellite contacts? Thanks. 73, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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AMSAT.org website - where to donate?
by John Mock KD6PAG 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

I want to make a small donation to AMSAT-NA (specifically for satellites which would accessible on a world-wide basis). But, alas, i could only information about membership and the "President's Club" on-line. Did i miss something?? It seems like it might be a missed opportunity not to have information on-line about making a one-time-only donation. -- KD6PAG (Networking Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer)

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I: [amsat-bb] AO-51 pass --CS5CEP - Centro Espacial Português--
by Francesco Grappi 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Hi Carles, thank you for the informations 73" Francesco Grappi IW4DVZ -----Messaggio originale----- Da: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] Per conto di EB3SA - Carles Inviato: lunedì 26 novembre 2007 19.30 A: 'AmSat BB' Oggetto: [amsat-bb] AO-51 pass --CS5CEP - Centro Espacial Português-- Hi to all This Evening in AO-51 over Europe , active: CS5CEP - Centro Espacial Português http://www.leme.org.pt/~galileu/PmWiki/index.php?n=Main.HomePage 73´s -- Carles Roy eb3sa(a)eb3sa.com www.eb3sa.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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AO-51 pass --CS5CEP - Centro Espacial Português--
by EB3SA - Carles 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Hi to all This Evening in AO-51 over Europe , active: CS5CEP - Centro Espacial Português http://www.leme.org.pt/~galileu/PmWiki/index.php?n=Main.HomePage 73´s -- Carles Roy eb3sa(a)eb3sa.com www.eb3sa.com

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Re: [eu-amsat] The solution.
by Luc Leblanc 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

On 25 Nov 2007 at 19:48, SV1BSX wrote: > Luc, > > as John said, grease is very significant. > I found some interesting Emails about it. Take a look. > > 73, Mak SV1BSX > > ============================================== > =========================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many Thank's Mak Our outside temperature is now +1C and the rotor is working it is confirm water in in the casing and probably gets in by the drain hole that i never found on my unit and if there is any he will be at the top offering a very good moisture access point. Is it also possible that humidity succeed to form inside by temperature variation and or by entering by the joingning sections. My model a Yaesu G-550 looks like the same as the Kenpro KR-500 and does not seems to have any drainage hole in the casing but this will have to be visually confirm. Looking at the exploded inside schematic picture of the rotor it seems that it is possible to drill a hole in the casing to drain this excess water? Could be someone who open one can confirm if there is enough clearance to avoid drilling through the gear/motor system? Thank's for all your advices and for all the private one too. Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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Re: Mast strength??
by Greg Beat 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Charles Penninger (Penninger Radio) has that "in stock" in western Chicago suburbs (15 miles west of my QTH) You likely also have a local aluminum tubing supplier / distributor in your area -- without having to pay for the shipping charges. 1/8" wall is very nice -- and surprising lightweight for its strength. At the 2 inch diameter size you can use either 1/8" or 1/4" wall http://www.penninger.com/prod05.htm Greg w9gb Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:13:57 -0500 From: "Stargate" <stargatesg1(a)verizon.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast strength?? To: "Amsat-Bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <HLENIILIDNGDDDJIDEMFGEMGENAA.stargatesg1(a)verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, I am installing 20' of Rohn 45 with a flat top from Normsfab and a Yaesu GS-065 thrust bearing. The lower end of the tower is already figured out but I'm not sure of what strength 2" mast I need. All this short tower will be supporting is a 3-4 element 6M homebrew beam just above the bearing on the tower, as well as, the elevation portion of the Yaesu G-5500 rotor with 8' fiberglass cross mast, and M2 2MCP22, and 436CP42UG beams on each end of the cross boom. The 2MCP22 is 2.5 sq ft wind load. The 436CP42UG is 2.0 sq ft wind load. I'm not sure of the WL for the rotor and 6M beam. The mast will have to be at least 18'-20' long to give 2-3 foot inside the tower to the AZ rotor and enough sticking out the top to give 1/4 wavelength (at 2M) spacing between the satellite antenna's and the 6M beam. The satellite antenna's are close to 20' long and mount from close to the center so I need at least 10' (+1/4 wavelength) above the top of the 6M beam. I'm not an engineering type so I thought I would ask on here. What thickness and material would the mast need to be to support this. I am thinking T6061 aluminum, .25" thick wall, 2" outside diameter mast. I live in a 75mph wind zone. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, 73's RoD KD0XX

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ande qsl
by Mr Jeffrey L Ross 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Hi all, I finnally got ande,s telem. Had it for a few days now but had trouble sending it here, everything is fine now. srry. Getting good practice for the de-orbit contest. 73 kc8gkf 06:58 ANDE-1>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#002,003,009,009,004,003,01000000,000 06:59 N8FQ/ANDE-1*>T2UY6W>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): `r_Il .y/Joe nr Grand Haven, MI at kb 06:59 VE3TZS/ANDE-1*>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4429.40N/08003.33WM ve3tzs(a)mac.com 06:59 N8FQ/ANDE-1*>T2UY6W>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): `r_Il .y/Joe nr Grand Haven, MI at kb 07:00 ANDE-1>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): T#001,108,176,116,001,219,00100010,000 09:02 ANDE-1>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#004,110,107,102,104,101,10000000,000 09:02 K4GR-1/ANDE-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :KI4QQM :Hello Rick de k4gr via International Space Station 09:02 N0AN-6/ANDE-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 09:03 K4GR-1/ANDE-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =3238.27N/08609.07W`Hello and Greetings de K4GR 73' Via ISS {UISS50} 02:17 W8IC/@NDE-1*>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): !4231.21N/08303.47W-A\RU= 02:17 K5VAS-1/ANDE-1*>S2SR2Q>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): 'y<Vl .;/> 06:36 ANDE-1/SGATE>APRS1>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :BLN1ANDE :ANDE-1 only wakes up 1 of evry 15s for users. Pse conserve. using a ht /soundcard interface with mixw and outdoor dipole antenna. recv.only at this time

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Fwd: Re: [Mw] Japanese Lunar Orbiter received.
by Edward Cole 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

For those speculating on what it will take to receive a signal from the Moon, check this message received on the "microwave reflector": >X-Original-To: microwave(a)echo.valinet.com >Delivered-To: microwave(a)echo.valinet.com >X-Originating-IP: [24.18.44.7] >From: "Loren Moline WA7SKT" <lmoline(a)hotmail.com> > >Rex, > >As per Paul Marsh the frequency for the Chinese orbiter doppler >beacon is 2234.533 +/- doppler. > >Loren > > > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:05:20 -0800 > > From: rexa(a)sonic.net > > To: microwave(a)echo.valinet.com > > Subject: Re: [Mw] Japanese Lunar Orbiter received. > > > > Loren Moline WA7SKT wrote: > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > For those interested I again tonight received a signal from the > newly launched Japanese Lunar Orbiter. > > > > > > This was received with my newly built S-Band downconverter and > a 3 1/2 turn helix antenna. > > > > > > Frequency drifted due to doppler from 2263.605Mhz to > 2263.581MHz before it went around the other side. I later acquired > it after it came back around. I have not yet established a period of orbit. > > > > > > This was a great way to test my downconverter. > > > > > > Loren WA7SKT > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations on the reception. Now you've got me interested. > > > > Info I just looked up says frequencies are 2212, 2219, 2287, 8456. So do > > you think your 2263 was doppler shifted 2287? I wonder if the satellite > > doppler has much effect vs. the moon itself. Calculating the exact > > doppler must be quite a math exercise. > > > > Are you still planning to try the 8 GHz frequency too? Or have you already? > > > > A wiki for the satellite says the period of the main satellite is 2 hrs. > > > > For John, the links say it will be at the moon for about a year. At the > > end they intend to do a soft landing on the moon. > > > > Here are some links I found tonight, (there are lots more.) > > Selene (Kaguya): > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELENE > > http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/en/communication/com_faq_e.htm > > http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm > > transmitters & freqs described in this one: > > http://ivs.nict.go.jp/mirror/publications/gm2006/kawano/ > > http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/selene.html > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1233.pdf > > > > Seems the Chinese also have a satellite, Chang'e, orbiting the moon too. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang'e_1 > > > > I couldn't find any information about downlink frequencies for the > > Chinese one. Does anyone know anything about that one. Some of the > > information seemed to say it would be playing Chinese music. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Microwave mailing list > > microwave(a)lists.valinet.com > > http://www.valinet.com/mailman/listinfo/microwave >_______________________________________________ >Microwave mailing list >microwave(a)lists.valinet.com >http://www.valinet.com/mailman/listinfo/microwave 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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input about best CAT controlled duplex multi-mode satellite rigs
by Dr. Jay Garlitz 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

Input about best CAT controlled duplex multi-mode satellite rigs to Mike Baker, WA4HFR, at micanopymike(a)gmail.com would be appreciated: A couple of my local ham friends have finally convinced me to get geared up to work the ham birds. My interests lie more toward the higher frequencies, 2GHz and up, but I do plan to get started on 144 and 432 bands. My question: What are a couple of the very best or most recommended VHF/UHF station rigs for working the birds? Are there any VHF/UHF multi-band mobile rigs suitable for working the ham birds? I presume that suitable rigs must have software controlled doppler correction capability? Thanks-- Mike Baker WA4HFR Micanopy

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rs-15 now eclipse again
by Auke de Jong, VE6PWN 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

It seems that by my observations that the beacon transmitter was reliable throughout this latest period of non-eclipse. I noticed that the beacon frequency was always the same(29.3512 usb), and the on/off timings seemed to indicate some state of information by slowly changing the on-duration, and keeping a steady off-duration. Now that the orbit has progressed away from the sun on the ascending node, I think it will be interesting to see if the unit will power-off and on for sunlight and behave in predictable ways or whatnot. There has been some reports from before the non-eclipse period started, where the same beacon signal was heard on a different frequency, but this was before i started listening. If anyone notices interesting behaviour such as different beacon frequencies of messages, or if they have information on how to decide what the beacon information might mean, I would be very interested to hear about it. Thank you Auke de Jong, VE6PWN DO33

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