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ANSAT-NA VS MILITARY cooperation
by Luc Leblanc 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Just to remind you as i already wrote...in the past any military VS AMSAT'S should be strongly condemned and even more by AMSAT-NA BOD. Theses "cadets" are no learning to play chess and this " along with its primary science mission" take all his sense in the scope of the excerpt below! As memory tends to forget in time it helps to remind those with a selective one... On 11 Feb 2007 at 23:33, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > There are several new pieces of software that need to be uploaded and tested > this week on AO-51. Additionally the S band transmitter will be on for an as > of yet undetermined number of daylight passes over the Air Force Academy > ground station in Colorado Springs, Colorado. These passes will be used for > the ground station checkout on S band prior to the launch of Falconsat-3 > satellite, now scheduled in late February. FS-3 carries an amateur payload > along with its primary science mission. 2003 Annual Session > 156 STCMT 03 E - WEAPONS IN SPACE AND GLOBAL SECURITY 156 STCMT 03 E - WEAPONS IN SPACE AND GLOBAL SECURITY III. POSSIBLE THREATS TO SPACE-BASED ASSETS 30. The availability of tracking data by amateur satellite observers from all over the world, who post their findings on the Internet, facilitates the tracking and identifying of satellites in low orbit. The increased sophistication of technologies such as radar, optical telescopes and passive radio frequency receivers makes it easier to track satellites in LEO. d.Micro-satellites (of less than 100 kg) and nano-satellites (of less than ten kg) that use lightweight composite materials and high-speed computer chips. These kinds of satellites could be used as secondary payloads of a primary space vehicle to covertly encounter space assets and disrupt or destroy them. 37. As Donald Rumsfeld became Defense Secretary in the newly elected Bush administration, the DOD started to implement some of the report's recommendations. In May 2001, the Defense Secretary declared, "There is no question that the use of land and sea and air and space are all things that need to be considered if one is looking at the best way to provide the kind of security from ballistic missiles that is desirable for the United States and for our friends and Allies." In July 2001, General Michael Ryan, the US Air Force chief of staff, endorsed the deployment of space-based weapons to protect US assets in space. He also predicted that by 2020 the United States will be able to shoot down other countries' orbiting spacecraft. 38. In October 2002, the US Space Command was merged with the US Strategic Command into an organisation that now controls all U.S. nuclear and space forces. "The missions of SpaceCom and StratCom have evolved to the point where merging the two into a single entity will eliminate redundancies in the command structure and streamline the decision-making process", Donald Rumsfeld said at the time. One of the largest components of the new StratCom - with 40,000 airmen and civilians - is Air Force Space Command, headquartered at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The Space Command's Strategic Master Plan calls for the United States, by 2025, to be able to strike any target in the world from space within minutes, to protect US systems in space from hostile forces, and to deny space access to potential enemies. "Potential enemies" As far as we are the US will soon consider the rest of the world as "potential enemies" I was taking my lunch last week in the Philipsburg area near the border and i have a nice conversation with a US national guard pilot based in Vermont who told me very interesting comment about the "mood" in the forces who is just the same it was in the Vietnam era... He told me he was sick and disgusted to always have to take side in defending the undefendable as soon as he goes out his country... As many of our brief discussion is "highly" OT he also told me many are "going north" to avoid serving overseas but he refused to clarify what he's meaning about overseas... but he smile... DAYTON 2007 Too bad AMSAT-NA ANS was again trailing on this one "AGAIN" but here it is... and you will have some matter to discuss in May too. Ham-astronaut to be league's honored guest at ARRL EXPO 2007 in Dayton Reprinted from The ARRL Letter, Vol 26, No 13 (Mar 30, 2007) NASA Space shuttle veteran and International Space Station Expedition 12 commander Bill McArthur, KC5ACR, will be the League's guest at Dayton Hamvention <http://www.hamvention.org> 2007 in May. Hamvention takes place this year Friday through Sunday, May 18-20, at Hara Arena near Dayton, Ohio. The first astronaut to work all states from space, McArthur has been applauded for inspiring others through his ham radio activities from NA1SS. He'll be featured speaker during a closed ARRL reception Thursday, May 17, and will be on hand all day Friday, May 18, to greet and talk with visitors to ARRL EXPO 2007 at Hamvention <http://www.arrl.org/announce/nc/2007/>. ARRL also anticipates that McArthur will be able to lead an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) forum at Dayton Hamvention for first-day visitors. "-" "A "Fidel" AMSAT observer." Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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Libertad-1 Apr 24, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, Just heard Libertad-1 over europe at 22:58:10 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA and at 20:26:25 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 73, Mike DK3WN ____________ Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit Version: AVK 17.4185 from 23.04.2007 Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com

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CP-4 Apr 22, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, CP-4 NORAD #31122 frequency nominal 437.322 MHz USB 22:43:40 FPEA COMM A 22:48:35 FPEA COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 111 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 5F 0F 21 36 92 02 07 04 5C 9C D2 C0 93 03 00 03 6A BD D0 21 > CE C1 8F 01 00 09 90 2E B9 C5 BD 94 03 02 03 77 53 DE D3 C4 41 > 90 01 00 03 60 93 E9 C0 00 05 B8 96 B8 B8 A7 11 0B 03 09 01 61 > 6A 7B 7C B9 B9 83 C7 68 F7 B1 FF E7 EC 83 C7 68 F8 C1 FF E5 81 > EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 28 2D 2E 5C BC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 110 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 62 0F 27 34 9D 02 06 04 54 A4 95 C0 C7 07 06 03 C0 92 8D 21 > C1 C5 97 65 09 A2 23 86 88 BE 9D 03 02 04 80 4A F7 EC C5 9A 41 > 00 00 03 67 99 E1 C0 00 05 B8 A3 B8 B9 AF 11 11 0E 03 01 77 61 > 89 88 B9 B9 83 C7 6C F4 4D 00 E2 EC 83 C7 6C F4 16 00 E1 EE 81 > 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5E 01 25 29 2B 5C 99 20:03:35 FPFA COMM A 20:08:34 FPEA COMM B 20:13:31 FPEA COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 112 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 2D 0F 0B 36 12 92 02 07 04 5F A2 CD C0 93 03 00 03 6E C1 21 > C4 C1 C1 8F 01 00 09 95 30 B7 C5 BD 94 03 02 03 7B 4D D8 CE 41 > C4 91 01 00 03 64 8F DE C0 00 05 B8 91 B8 B8 A7 10 0E 0C 03 61 > 0B 01 67 78 78 B9 B9 83 C7 68 F8 C4 FF D3 EC 83 C7 68 F9 D8 81 > FF E7 EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 28 2E 2E C0 Is anybody there who can explain the telemetry ? Thanks and 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad-1 Apr 24, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, just heard Libertad-1 over europe at 20:26:25 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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CAPE-1 Status
by Jonathan Wagner 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Well, it looks like CAPE-1 has went back to sleep. During safe modes it may only transmit CW once every 10 minutes, however for the first 25 boot cycles it will wait 15 minutes before starting to transmit. So, we'll see what happens. If anyone available during CAPE's passes that can listen for the CW beacon on SSB at 435.245 MHz +/- doppler, please do so and report any telemetry available either here on the amsat-bb list or directly to me at jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net We don't currently have enough data to determine what is causing the sat to behave like this, but we think it may be battery related. We just don't have enough data. We especially need data from non-US passes. Our data from Mike, DK3WN, DTUsat team and all the others in Europe, Japan and New Zealand has been invaluable. You can also send any recorded audio files to the jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net Thanks and 73 to the group -- Jonathan Wagner

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RAFT Packet Operator assistance needed
by Robert Bruninga 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

We need AMSAT operator help with the RAFT satellite Test. We need somone with a 2m beam and familiarity with packet that lives in the Southern USA from Arizona to Georgia (AZ, NM, TX, OK, MS, ALA, GA). RAFT is at its mission life time half-way point, and we have not been able to find anyone in the above footprint to help us conduct the primary mission which was for the satellite to detect its own passing through the DOD's radar fence. When it flies through the North American Space-Object fan beam, we should hear about 1 second tone that anyone can hear on the downlink. Due to its low orbit and small footprint, turning on the Radar Transponder can only be done in the shared footprint between the radar transmitter in North Texas and the command station. The ideal command station has these atributes: 1) Lives in AZ, NM, TX, OK, AK, LA, MS, AL, GA, W.FLA 2) A reasonable 2m beam for ops on 145.825 3) A packet TNC 4) A familiarity with dumb-terminal TNC operations such as A. Connections, Converse, UNPROTO, etc B. Remote sysop logon to a Kantronics TNC The objective of these southern command stations is to logon, send the command to activate the RAFT Radar receiver for 1 minute in anticipation of passing through the fence. Then hopefully recording any audio heard on the downlink (145.825). Of course, once the radar receiver is on, everyone in the footprint should be able to hear it. For info, see the ANDE-RAFT operations page: http://eng.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/ande-raft-ops.html Several AMSAT hams built this tiny Radar receiver as a possible common device for all future HAMsats, and we would like to get feedback on its performance. But they all live up North. If you have a beam and familiarity with TNC's please let us know. Bob, WB4APR. US Naval Academy Satellite Lab _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeaterinterference to military radars
by joseph Murray 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hi Ed Somehow I feel as thought I have been left out of something. Pave Paws has been around a very very long time. 70cm use by Hams has like wise been there maybe longer. Living in the center of the country and not having to concern myself with the 70cm restriction to Ham use within a given distance of certain Military installations I have no idea what changed. Something changed. Do you know what that might be? The attention appears to be toward 70cm repeaters Was no one paying any attention to the 70cm restrictions when validating the 70 cm repeater installations? Are these repeater netted over the Internet? There is more that just PAVE PAWS to consider if my memory serves. Hams need the real truth about what caused the current problem. I do not , am not able to get that from all I have seen on the BB. Can you add anything Ed? 37 years in DOD testing makes me sensitive in many ways . Thanks Ed 73's Joe K0VTY On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:48:20 -0800 Edward Cole <kl7uw(a)acsalaska.net> writes: > Tony, Roger, etal: > > A "slice" will not be a solution to PAVE PAWS which is broadband > covering the whole spectrum (420-450 MHz). There already exists > restricted use of 70cm within range of selected military > installations in FCC regs. Those unlucky to live within the > affected > areas cited will have no recourse but to restrict operations > (however > that takes effect). Voluntary negotiations may lead to some time > slots of permission. Otherwise, we get "regulated" off the band. > > Build satellites that require no more than 5w EIRP from the ground > station may be the only answer. OR move to another uplink > band. That's a possibility that may be the "hard news". > > UN-Licensed users are more the long-term problem facing ham radio, > than the military user...in my opinion. Ham radio has a long > history > of sharing allocations with the military. The short history of > "part-15" and their "ilk" is not pretty. > > So now its use it AND lose it...can't win! > good luck to us? > > 73 Ed - KL7UW > > At 05:23 AM 4/24/2007, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > >Tony wondered: > > > >"Should this ARRL msg. cause us to worry..." > > > >Yes... The key is that in the US we are secondary users in the 420 > - 450 mHz > >band and while there are only 2 PAVE PAWS sites active, another > interesting > >"land grab" can be found by googling wind shear radar and 449.000 > mHz. > > > >We are at the whim of the government with no primary allocation, > for example > >there is this "grab" -- "Tire Pressure Monitoring System with > Frequency > >Range of 433.92MHz." > > > >An effort for Amateur primary allocation of even a "slice" would be > prudent. > > > >Roger > >WA1KAT > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <tjjapha(a)earthlink.net> > >To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:30 AM > >Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate > >repeaterinterference to military radars > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > Should this ARRL msg. cause us to worry about the future of mode > B > > > operations? > > > 73, > > > Tony, N2UN > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: ARRL Web site <memberlist(a)www.arrl.org> > > > > To: <tjjapha(a)earthlink.net> > > > > Cc: <Subscribed ARRL Members:> > > > > Date: 4/24/2007 12:06:01 AM > > > > Subject: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater > interference to > > > military radars > > > > > > > > SB QST @ ARL $ARLB013 > > > > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference > to > > > > military radars > > > > > > > > ZCZC AG13 > > > > QST de W1AW > > > > ARRL Bulletin 13 ARLB013 > > > > From ARRL Headquarters > > > > Newington CT April 23, 2007 > > > > To all radio amateurs > > > > > > > > SB QST ARL ARLB013 > > > > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference > to > > > > military radars > > > > > > > > The ARRL has been working with the US Department of Defense > to > > > > develop a plan to mitigate alleged interference from 70 cm ham > radio > > > > repeaters to military radar systems on both coasts. Citing an > > > > increasing number of interference complaints, the US Air Force > has > > > > asked the FCC to order dozens of repeater systems to either > mitigate > > > > interference to the ''PAVE PAWS'' radars in Massachusetts and > > > > California or shut down. Amateur Radio is secondary to > government > > > > users from 420 to 450 MHz and must not interfere with primary > users. > > > > The Commission has not yet responded. ARRL Regulatory > Information > > > > Specialist Dan Henderson, N1ND, stresses that the Defense > Department > > > > acknowledges Amateur Radio's value in disasters and > emergencies and > > > > is being extremely cooperative, and a wholesale shutdown of US > 70 cm > > > > Amateur Radio activity is not in the offing. > > > > > > > > ''The ARRL Lab is working up calculations on each repeater > system the > > > > Air Force has identified to determine where > interference-mitigation > > > > techniques offer a reasonable chance of keeping the repeater > on the > > > > air,'' Henderson says. > > > > > > > > The situation affects 15 repeaters in the vicinity of Otis Air > Force > > > > Base on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and more than 100 repeaters > within > > > > some 140 miles of Beale Air Force Base near Sacramento, > California. > > > > > > > > A US Air Force contractor identified the problematic repeater > > > > systems last summer, but the situation didn't become critical > until > > > > the Air Force contacted the FCC a month ago. ARRL officials > met with > > > > Defense Department representatives in late March to discuss > alleged > > > > interference to the PAVE PAWS radar sites. Henderson has > contacted > > > > Amateur Radio frequency coordinators in both affected areas. > > > > > > > > PAVE PAWS is a missile and satellite detection and tracking > system, > > > > and its facilities occupy essentially the entire 70 cm band -- > one > > > > factor that makes mitigation difficult. As a ''first step,'' > however, > > > > the ARRL is recommending that all affected repeater owners > reduce > > > > power -- possibly to as little as 5 W effective radiated > power > > > > (ERP). > > > > > > > > ''We understand the difficulty this may cause to owners and > users,'' > > > > Henderson said, ''but the alternative to operating with a > smaller > > > > coverage area may be not operating at all.'' > > > > > > > > Henderson says the League is still seeking further information > on > > > > the problem. ''Until the Defense Department accepts a > mitigation > > > > plan, repeater owners should exercise patience,'' he > cautioned. > > > > > > > > Contact Dan Henderson, N1ND, n1nd(a)arrl.org, or 860-594-0236, > with > > > > specific questions or issues associated with this situation. > > > > NNNN > > > > /EX > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > > > Subscription settings: > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Ed - KL7UW > ====================================== > BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com > 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w > DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com > ====================================== > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >

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fo-29 status
by nader omer 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

nothing heard from FO-29 today 24-04-2007 @ 1520 qth - ll34kp very sad :( Nader st2nh - hz1nh --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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SSETI-ESEO Launch Date
by Trevor 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

SSETI-ESEO Launch Date The launch date for SSETI-ESEO, the ESA led student satellite project intended for Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO), has been delayed by approximately one year. It had originally been hoped that this satellite would be a secondary payload on Arianespace launch from Kourou in late Nov 2008 but it now seems that the expected secondary payload opportunity will not be available. Although this delay is regrettable it will give the various teams much needed extra time to finalise and test their systems. A BBM - "Breadboard model" of the satellite systems and payloads is being produced at the ESTEC facility in the Netherlands for testing purposes. This will commence operations during this summer. Work continues to develop the AMSAT-UK communications package that is planned to provide a 435 to 2400 MHz (Mode U/S) linear transponder using both analogue and DSP based systems. It will additionally downlink telemetry at 400 bps and provide command and ranging facilities. Full details of the project are available at http://www.uk.amsat.org/ click on "News Archive" and then "SSETI". There will be a presentation on SSETI-ESEO at the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium which is being held at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 20th to Sunday 22nd July. This event is open to all Amateurs and SWL's and there will be a special beginners session aimed at newcomers to the exciting world on Amateur Satellite operating. For further information see http://www.uk.amsat.org/colloquium AMSAT-UK produces a newsletter Oscar News packed full of Amateur Satellite information. For membership details contact the secretary Jim Heck G3WGM Tel: +44 (0)1258 453959 Email: g3wgm(a)amsat.org Website: http://www.uk.amsat.org/ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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FM on VO-52 or others
by Thomas McGrane 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hello to bruce and the list, very thoughtful post bruce. I would like to add to the discussion. Using FM on VO-52 is not ignorant. We assume the world is as affluent as us but even here in north america, there are many who do not have SSB equipment as evidenced by the popularity of ao-51 and the lack of operators on VO-52 I tried FM on VO-52 last winter after my 2 meter all-mode gave up. Either I didnt find my signal on the downlink or it was too weak for me to hear. I tried once and that was that. Not only do I think both modes should be supported, but I think the satellites should be made more powerful for use by a larger number of amateurs with readily avilable or common equipment. The amsat organisations should work to satisfy a larger segment of the amateur community around the world. As it is now, I say hello to the same people every time I get on for the last 2 years. I know now, its always a good morning, hi hi. Amsat worldwide should try to expand the number of users. When I make my meager donations, they are for many future users, not just the members. I read about KIWI and I am looking forward to it very much. It will be both FM and SSB, very logical. Thanks for the soapbox, pat n2oeq

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