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CAPE is back again
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, just heard over europe very strong signals J from Cape-1 1928 AOS (in darkness) 1929 k5usl 3 000000000000 1930 out of eclips 1931 k5usl 1 9d00dddc000a0063 1933 k5usl 2 ffffeaeee8f0e300fd 1936 k5usl 3 000007000000 1939 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00010000 1940 LOS That means: Beacon 1: 9d00dddc000a0063 Beacon 2: ffffeaeee8f0e300fd Beacon 3: 000007000000 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 0 V Battery 1 Voltage : 4,42 V Battery 2 Voltage : 4,4 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 10 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 99 mA Temp Battery 1 : -1 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -22 °C Temp +Y face : -18 °C Temp -Y face : -24 °C Temp +Z face : -16 °C Temp -Z face : -29 °C Temp RF Amp : 0 °C Temp Battery 2 : -3 °C Panel +X face : 0 Panel -X face : 0 Panel +Y face : 7 Panel -Y face : 0 Panel +Z face : 0 Panel -Z face : 0 73, Mike DK3WN

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Re: [eu-amsat] AO-7
by John Hackett 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi MaK, I'm not so sure a BLACK LIST is the way to go, however, we most certainly DO! need to be aware of the "alligator" ... (all mouth and no ears) ... problem on AO-7. I read quite recently a post on the Amsat-bb wherea particular station was "explaining" that one *NEEDS* a linear amplifier to work AO-7. Absolutely *not* true ... (using an aerial !!!!! might have helped.....LA2QAA & GM1SXX). Of course, today's FM'ing on AO-7 *may* have been due to ignorance, not deliberate QRM, we'll never know but we should !!! encourage people to LISTEN before transmitting ... after all, it *IS* full duplex. I'd suggest "education" to be a better alternative than a"black list" ... Alligators will always! be with us with the "mine's bigger than yours!" menality. A re-read of the recommended operating proceedure would do no harm. This applies to *ALL* satellites. PS. LA2QAA and GM1SXX will soon be publishing an article suggesting a way to operate satellites for those amateurs who have severe aerial restrictions or who don't currently own the necessary equipment. I will of course put a link to the article concerned on the EU-Amsat pages. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> ......................................................................................................................................... >From: SV1BSX <sv1bsx(a)yahoo.gr> >Reply-To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [eu-amsat] AO-7 >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 03:48:26 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi John, > > well, I suggest to make a BLACK LIST (and publish >that anywhere, like Amsat-BB etc ). > >Why not? > > This way I believe that, every LID(= bad-operator) >will be more careful in order to avoid the LIST! > > After the closed-down of FO-29, we have to care much >more about AO-7's good-health. > >73, Mak SV1BSX > > >--- John Hackett <archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Somebody knocking 10 kinds of the brown > > stuff out of AO-7 this > > morning on orbit 48458. > > > > Careful !! with the power chaps or we'll lose this > > one as well. > > > > The recommended operating proceedure can be found at > > ... > > > > <http://www.planetemily.com/ao7/ao7log.php> Just > > click on "Using AO-7". > > > > The more potential new users who are aware that you > > *DON'T* need 100w to a > > 10 element beam, the more likely it is that AO-7 > > will continue to provide > > excellent analogue signals. > > > > 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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CP-4 Apr 25, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, just heard at 1903 - 1914 UTC over Europe 19:06:40 CW = FPEA COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 89 17 0A 39 10 D5 02 07 03 53 A0 B4 BC C0 C8 01 08 03 82 21 > BC 9B 96 C1 C2 04 02 09 AB 22 BE CA BD 92 03 02 04 8F 4D F0 41 > E6 C4 90 00 00 03 74 9A DD E0 C0 00 05 B8 A1 B8 B8 A5 11 0F 61 > 0C 0A 03 01 74 86 86 B9 BA 83 C7 67 F5 B2 FF 5F EC 83 C7 67 81 > F5 AE FF 56 EE 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 61 01 25 2A 2C 5C 9A 19:11:40 CW = FPEA COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 8B 17 0B 01 0F CD 02 06 03 4D 95 75 81 C0 96 02 00 02 86 21 > AC 62 61 C1 C4 3D 02 08 AC 18 81 89 BD C7 05 04 04 95 55 F4 41 > E5 C4 91 00 00 03 76 9F C2 C5 C0 00 05 B8 9D B8 B8 A5 11 10 61 > 0B 03 0A 01 78 89 87 B9 B9 83 C7 67 F3 A4 FF 60 EC 8B C7 6A 81 > F4 FF FF 57 EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 27 29 2A 5C D4 73, Mike DK3WN

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Amsat @ Friedrichshafen?
by G0MRF＠aol.com 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hello I'm hope to visit the 3 day Friedrichshafen rally in Germany over the weekend of 22nd - 24th June. If I can find somewhere to stay. Can anyone on the list recommend a hotel? - I know it's a bit late, but I'm optimistic! Also, is there any AMSAT participation at Friedrichshafen or is AMSAT more visible at the VHF event in September. Many thanks David G0MRF

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Generous Offer
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

One of our members has donated a banquet ticket to the first NEW member who joins AMSAT at Dayton! 73- Martha

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Government control has exceeded constitutional limitations.
by Ernest Erickson 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Dear members: As we all know, the government has taken over just about every facet of our life, and the military is lock-step with that effort. We need to start forcing a return to total civilian control of this bloated government we are now dealing with, and ensure it operates as 'we' direct it, and not at the whim of a single man (bush). If the government can move in and wipe us off the planet, where does the will of the people fit in here? We own everything the government has, as WE put the government into operation, we darn sure can regain control and demand things change to serve the will of the people far more and far better than it has been doing over these past 20 years. It's high time the government adhere to the will of the people and address OUR concerns first and foremost, and stop usurping power at every turn, as it has been doing solidly since Bush was 'elected'. >From power grabbing to taking away that which it has no right or legal authority to do so, but does regardless because we the sheeple have allowed this gluttonous form of government to take far more than it gives, which directly violates the enumerated powers we originally gave it. Now the military is playing dictator as well? Since when did that branch of civilian control become an arm of the executive or legislative branch? I say shut down those two 'radar' sites and move on, history has shown that the closure of others has not affected this nation whatsoever, and the last remaining pair can't prove a 'need' remains it'ssimply grabbing for more control of our constitutionaly protected powers as a people. It appears that outright disobedience and willful disregard may be required, then forcing the shut down of the last two operational sites as they are onviously not 'strategic' in nature or scope, and that prior shutdowns and closures proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are no longer neccessary as there are very few nations with the capacity or capability to even launch long range ballisitic missiles toward our shores. This is nothing more than sabre rattling to attract attention, and playing the doomsday scare bush so loves to perpetrate upon us as well, given his history for lies and deceipt. With all our money at the government's disposal, you would think that their brilliant minds should be able to think their way through this so-called interference and find a sutiable solution to a simple problem, such as side lobe rejection, additional band pass filtering or whatever is required to minimize or eliminate this 'interference' althogether. Here's a thought..MOVE THE RADAR'S OPERATING BAND UPWARDS! Or maybe even down....to the 300 Mhz. band. Oh wait, that's where the MILITARY operates, we cna't have them move, so shove the hams off instead...NOT! We have every right to have access to spectrum WE own, it's ours in THIS nation, and WE must demand access to it just as much as any branch of government. I know, most U.S hams prefer the wait and see approach, but this is getting ridiculous! Every time the military or government agency hiccups, the hams lose a slice of spectrum, same goes for big business(remember 220?). Last I read the declaration of independence, it was 'WE THE PEOPLE' and not I the government that ran this country! A good house cleaning is needed, from the top on down. Stop allowing the military to dictate policies, it's not legal or allowable, especially in light of the current situation. Also, when was the last time the government actually worked for US? The military doesn't need the entire radio spectrum to work with, give it only what it needs and that's all...THIS FAR, NO FURTHER...THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE! Ernest A. Erickson, KA9UCE Applied Electronic Communications, AEC 10711 East Verbina Lane Florence, AZ. 85232 520.723.0602 aec9823(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Latest Count for Dayton Dinner
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

We now have 156 registered for the AMSAT/TAPR Dayton dinner. If you have not yet done so, please register online at the AMSAT website. Tickets will be available for pickup on Friday, at the AMSAT Booth. 73- Martha

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Re: Re Power Levels Into Satellites
by Andrew Glasbrenner 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

John, Instead of suggesting someone else do it, how about writing it up and sending it in yourself? The Journal takes submissions from anyone who will write... 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: john hackett <la2qaa(a)hotmail.com> >Sent: Apr 25, 2007 10:36 AM >To: Mikehooles(a)btinternet.com >Cc: Amsat-bb(a)amsat.org, eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Re Power Levels Into Satellites > >Hello Mike, > I've been suggesting this for donkey's !!! years ... (12 at >least) ... in my earlier columns in Oscar News, The Amsat Journal, on ><http://www.observations.biz/> and on the various satellite reflectors ... >but so far it's fallen on deaf ears. > >See <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eu-amsat/?yguid=188558692> > >You'd think this would be in the interest of the editors of the Amsat >journals ... but obviously not. > >I hope your posting generates more response than mine have. Perhaps with the >demise of FO-29 more people might start to become aware of the problem. > >73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> >....................................................................................................................................... > >>From: "Mike Hooles" <Mikehooles(a)btinternet.com> >>To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Power Levels Into Satellites >>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:42:42 -0000 >> >>What would be useful for people coming into the satellite world would be a >>series of maximum recommended power levels for each of the satellites >>listed >>on the AMSAT Website, >>e.g. SO50, >> Antenna - Eggbeater - 50 watts up to 30 degrees, 10 watts above. >> 1/4 wave ground plane - 50 watts >> 3 ele. beam >> 10 ele beam >> 12 ele beam >> etc. >>Also, listing modes. >>At the moment, many make the excuse they do not have the time, information, >>nor skills to calculate the levles. They're usually the ones that are 'deaf >>as a post' on the downlink as well >>Then any alligators could be steered to the relevant list. >> >>Best Regards >>Mike G3LGR >>33643 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Spaces http://spaces.msn.com/?mkt=nb-no Vis hvem du er og hva du vil > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Alligators or with poor knowledge (SSB transponders)
by Fernandez Montaña, Juan Antonio 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Speaking through the sats all of us know who puts the best signals because all of us know which is our own signal. The problem is that the alligators usually do not know that they are, so they can not correct its behviour. Some months ago I asked to one of the best signals about their antennas and power out, and of course they were a long crossed yagui and more than 100 watts, when I told him that with less power would be enough to get the same outcome, he answerd that the power out and antennas are not the important thing because the AGC of the satellite will reduce the power in the downlink. Nowadays are there people who think that it is true ??????. Then if there are 10 alligators all of then will put the best signals, no!, all of them will put poor signals in the downlink because the power out is limited. In the same way, the weak signals will be penalized even with only one alligator. If all of us would unplink with enough power to make the contact (not to show off our impresive modulation), the week signals will emerge from the noise and to work this stations will be easier. If our signal is the best in the trasponder we must look at ourself in the mirror, perhaps we could see a big mouth and little ears. All of us have been alligators on some occasions or LEILA never pointed to us in the AO40. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ 73s =============================================================== Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. La información incluida en el presente correo es confidencial sometida a secreto profesional, especialmente en lo que respecta a los datos personales, cuya divulgación está prohibida, en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si usted no lo es y lo ha recibido por error o tiene conocimiento del mismo por cualquier motivo, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por este medio y proceda a destruirlo o borrarlo, y que en todo caso se abstenga de utilizar, reproducir, alterar, archivar o comunicar a terceros el presente mensaje y ficheros anexos, todo ello bajo pena de incurrir en responsabilidades legales. Cualquier opinión contenida en este correo es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente la opinión de Iberdrola. El emisor no garantiza la integridad, rapidez o seguridad del presente correo, ni se responsabiliza de posibles perjuicios derivados de la captura, incorporaciones de virus o cualesquiera otras manipulaciones efectuadas por terceros. This message is intended for the exclusive attention of the addressee(s) indicated. Any information contained herein is strictly confidential and privileged, especially as regards personal data, which must not be disclosed, in accordance with legislation currently in force. If you are not the intended recipient and have received it by mistake or learn about it in any other way, please notify us by return e-mail and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, alteration, filing or sending of this message and/or any attached files to third parties may lead to legal proceedings being taken. Any opinion expressed herein is solely that of the author(s) and does not necessarily represent the opinion of Iberdrola. The sender does not guarantee the integrity, speed or safety of this message, not accept responsibility for any possible damage arising from the interception, incorporation of virus or any other manipulation carried out by third parties. ===============================================================

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CAPE-1 9k6 FSK
by Mineo Wakita 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca1.wav de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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