November 2008 - AMSAT-BB - mailman.amsat.org

Visual sightings and IT
by Dave Guimont 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

I use Heavens Above for a quick forecast of any visual sightings, but I use IT for accurate AZ/EL printout information in the event of a partial overcast... The "seeing" is generally not very good in San Diego to begin with, and I live away from the city lights.... 73, Dave, WB6LLO dguimon1(a)san.rr.com Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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CO-65 earth photo #5
by Mineo Wakita 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/cut17ap4.htm http://lss.mes.titech.ac.jp/ssp/cute1.7/blog/1_25_rev2%20_Caption.jpg JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Re: visual sighting of amateur satellites
by Hilton Meyer 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hi Steve and Jim, I well remember seeing Sputnik pass over several times and listening to the beep, beep , beep from the beacon, which from memory was on around 20MHz. Two ham friends and I sat on my shack roof to observe the passes, here in Napier, New Zealand. 73 Hilton ZL2MN STeve Andre' wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 21:59:59 Jim Danehy wrote: > >> I have often seen the ISS in the evening sky. Its elevation is about 200 >> miles up. It is a fairly large object measuring more than 310 feet >> wide and >> 225 feet long. It is about 150 feet in height. It is too big to fit >> into a >> football field at 310' x 225'. It is quite the sight. A couple of >> weeks ago >> after I worked Richard I saw the ISS by stepping outside. It was a great >> dark morning and the ISS probably had the brightness on the solar >> scale of >> 1. The sun is -27 and the brightest object for us on earth. The -27 >> being >> the bright side ; as you go to a more positive number the object is >> dimmer. >> >> AO 51 is about 25 cm on a side. That is about the size of a sack of >> groceries. I do not know the exact height of AO 51 but I know it is >> higher >> than the ISS (200 miles). I think AO 51 is about 250 to 300 miles up. >> >> I believe it is impossible to get a visual sighting of something that >> small >> at that height. There are thousands of objects in orbit around our >> earth. A >> bag of groceries at 300 miles up would take more seeing ability than a >> human set of eyes can provide. >> >> Jim W9VNE >> > > I've often wondered about this--I have no direct knowledge on this, but > what you say seems reasonable. > > Except that I'm pretty sure that US Air Force people saw Sputnik. Not > sure > how big it was compared to AO 51. > > The other factor here might be the sun--glinting in the sun, wouldn't > AO 51 > be far more visable ? > > --STeve Andre' > wb8wsf en82 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: > 270.9.0/1770 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 5:36 PM > >

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some additional comments on visual sighting
by Jim Danehy 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

the accepted opinion of astronomers is that you can see +6 magnitude stars without the assistance of a telescope or binoculars . . . . if AO 51 is +9 then it is virtually impossible to see it with the naked eye . . . as for comets : well in order for comets to be seen those small particles that you see must be within the Karman line . . . which is at 62 miles (up) . . . the atmosphere pretty well ends at 75 to 80 miles up . . . in order for those objects to be seen they must be within the atmosphere where they "burn up" by friction against the "air" atmosphere (. . . AO 51 is some 300 miles or 400 miles up and the ISS is 200 miles up . . . the sun is - 27 and we all know the brightest thing out there for us here on earth . . . . +6 for naked eye viewing . . . +9 is not visible Jim W9VNE

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ESA cubesat launch details
by G0MRF＠aol.com 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Following the selection of 9 cubesats to be launched on the maiden flight of the Vega launcher, ESA have now announced that the cubesats will be deployed into a very interesting orbit measuring 350km x 1450km with an inclination of 71 degrees. >From the ESA website "The nine CubeSats will be deployed from three different deployment systems mounted on the support structure of the main payload, LARES (LAser RElativity Satellite), into an orbit of 350 km by 1450 km at an inclination of 71 degrees. The launch opportunity is offered by ESA to the selected CubeSats free of charge" Further details are at: _http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEMAYTRTKMF_index_0.html_ (http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEMAYTRTKMF_index_0.html) Regards David G0MRF (If only.........!!)

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Report GO-32 And Cuestion
by Raul Romero CA3SOC 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Now GO-32 FT-847 AGWPE Pro and UISS now Very Better Cuestion uplink for APRS is 145.850 its ok ??? for BBS is ??? Call BBS is 4XTECH-12 ??? very nice copy iam now TX to GO-32 Tnx Raul CA3SOC Port1 with SoundCard On COM1: VHF 9600 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:12:40] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:12:46] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:12:52] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:12:58] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:04] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:10] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:16] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:22] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:13:27] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:28] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:13:33] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:13:34] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <DISC P>[22:13:40] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:13:44] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:13:46] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=27 >[22:13:54] 10YR to GO32!keep on amigo 1:Fm -4 To -15 Via -7,,,,,,,,,-4,-15,-1,,-15 [22:14:01] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:12] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:14:14] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:14:17] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:18] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=57 >[22:14:19] :EMAIL :[email protected] Hello...From ISS and GO-32 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:24] 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To STATUS <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:14:25] >B:50260945 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:30] 1:Fm -4 To -14 Via -7,,,,,,,,,-4,-15,-1,,-15 [22:14:31] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:14:33] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:36] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:42] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:48] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:14:54] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:00] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:06] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <DISC P>[22:15:12] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=57 >[22:15:18] :EMAIL :[email protected] Hello...From ISS and GO-32 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:28] 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:15:29] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To STATUS <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:15:29] >B:50261193 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:15:30] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm -4 To -12 Via -7,,,,-14*,h,-3 [22:15:30] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:15:31] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=57 >[22:15:32] :EMAIL :[email protected] Hello...From ISS and GO-32 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:34] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:15:40] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:40] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:46] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:52] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:15:58] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:15:59] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm -4 To -11 Via -7,,,,-14*,h,-3 [22:16:01] 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:16:01] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To STATUS <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:16:01] >B:50261317 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=59 >[22:16:01] >Thu Nov 06 01:16:06 2008 :UTC| Gurwin Techsat1B (V9.87) 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=27 >[22:16:01] BBS(V9.87) 2Users/8BCasts. 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=18 >[22:16:01] Upl:145.89,1269.8 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=39 >[22:16:02] :BLN1 GO32:cu APRS!!Use pth via 4XTECH 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=33 >[22:16:02] :BLN3 GO32:D7* posits use 145.93 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=27 >[22:16:02] 10YR to GO32!keep on amigo 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0>[22:16:02] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:04] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:16:05] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:16:07] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:10] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:16:13] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:16] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:16:18] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:16:19] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:22] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:16:27] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <DISC P>[22:16:28] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:16:31] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm -4 To -10 Via -7,,,,-6 [22:16:31] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:16:32] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=57 >[22:16:33] :EMAIL :[email protected] Hello...From ISS and GO-32 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:16:33] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:36] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:42] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:48] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:16:54] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:00] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:06] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:12] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:18] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:17:19] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:24] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:17:30] 1:Fm -4 To -8 Via -7,,,,,,,,,-4,-15,-1,,-15 [22:17:31] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=38 >[22:17:32] :BLNQSL1/1:4XTECH-11,4XTECH-12{UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <DISC P>[22:17:36] 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:17:38] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To STATUS <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:17:38] >B:50262042 1:Fm -4 To -7 Via -7,,,,-6 [22:18:01] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:18:02] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:03] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:07] 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:18:10] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=59 >[22:18:10] >Thu Nov 06 01:18:15 2008 :UTC| Gurwin Techsat1B (V9.87) 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=27 >[22:18:10] BBS(V9.87) 2Users/8BCasts. 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=18 >[22:18:10] Upl:145.89,1269.8 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=39 >[22:18:10] :BLN1 GO32:cu APRS!!Use pth via 4XTECH 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[22:18:11] :BLN2 GO32:APRS msgs use 145.85 Upl 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=27 >[22:18:11] 10YR to GO32!keep on amigo 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BEACON <UI pid=F0>[22:18:11] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:13] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=46 >[22:18:18] Software: UISS 5.2.3 For Windows and AGWPE PRO 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:19] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:19] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:25] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:18:25] PB: Empty. 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:27] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:31] 1:Fm -4 To -6 Via -7,,,,-10 [22:18:31] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:34] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:36] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:37] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:40] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:43] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:43] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To BBSTAT <UI pid=F0 Len=12 >[22:18:43] Open:AB1C23: 1:Fm 4XTECH-12 To STATUS <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:18:43] >B:50262601 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:44] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:46] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:46] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:49] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:18:50] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:18:55] 1:Fm 4XTECH-11 To PBLIST <UI pid=F0 Len=11 >[22:19:00] PB: Empty. 1:Fm -4 To -5 Via -7,,,,-10 [22:19:00] 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <SABM P>[22:19:01] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:19:05] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:19:06] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To 4XTECH-12 <DISC P>[22:19:07] 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:19:09] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 >[22:19:11] =3336.15S/07032.30W-73' From CE3RR and CA3SOC Via ISS And GO-32 {UISS52} 1:Fm CA3SOC To CQ Via 4XTECH <UI pid=F0 Len=72 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Station Recommendations
by Josh Smith 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hello everyone, I am fairly new to the armature radio hobby and am in the market for a station. I have all but decided on an icom ic-7000 all mode/most band transceiver. But I have recently been experimenting with some of the easy sats (ao-51,iss,etc) and wanted to know if anyone here has used the ic-7000 for some light satellite work and how it works for this purpose. Thank you, -- Josh Smith KD8HRX email/jabber: juicewvu(a)gmail.com phone: 304.237.9369(c) () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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QSLs from WD9EWK (DM23/DM24) last weekend
by Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hi! I was planning to send out QSLs for stations that worked me last weekend, when I was out in California in DM23/DM24, before my trip to Vancouver. I mailed a few out, responding to QSLs I already received. The rest will be mailed when I return from Canada, in case I have more cards to send to those stations. I already have cards printed for that trip, and I have a template already set up for CJ7EWK this weekend. I apologize to those who may have been expecting my QSLs in the mail this week from last weekend's quick trip. Thanks, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK (soon, CJ7EWK) http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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GO-32 Observation.
by Dave Aitch 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Sorry if this has been mentioned already. Over the last couple of days I have been trying to work GO-32 9K6 data BBS. I sorted the continuous request for the DIR by deleting the appropriate file. I sent a test message, which was accepted. The DIR was requested but no data downloaded. I tried again this morning. DIR requested, along with others in the queue, but nothing downloaded. Uploaded a short message to myself agn, noted the msg number and requested to download it, but again, no response, but my call sign appeared in the queue to download the msg, as it does when requesting the directory. So 32 will accept files transmitted to it, but doesn't respond to files requested from it. Hope this helps someone somewhere. 73, Dave. G1OCN. AMSAT UK 5766 Portland. Dorset. IO80SM.

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viewing satellites
by Jim Danehy 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

I said in my original post on this subject I am not here to persuade . . . I am interested in helping to understand (education) . . . AO 51 is 9" X 9" X 9" . . . see AMSAT website where they use ~25cm cubed . . . the ISS is ~10,000,000 cubic feet versus less than 1 cubic foot for AO 51 . . .YES you can "see" the sun reflect off the 10,000,000 cubic foot object but not the less than HALF A CUBIC FOOT AO 51 Like anything we all see REFLECTIONS of the sun; that is a physicists definition . . . without the sun you "see" nothing . . . I have SEEN the relatively large 300' X 225' X 150' ISS which is the sun's reflection . . . . I have seen dozens of Iridium flares which last for about 2 or 3 seconds depending on certain factors . . . no argument from me on whether someone "saw" something . . . i guess if you think you saw something 9 " X 9" X 9" from 300 miles up you will continue to believe that . . . it just is not factual . . . . now the ISS is large enough . . . its star magnitude does vary depending on factors but is generally about a 1 which is certainly visible . . . as somebody said AO 51 would be a 15 or so magnitude which is way way beyond seeing . . . most very dim stars are 3 and 4 and believe me that is 100 db up (so to speak) from AO 51 at 15. As a matter of fact you can not see beyond a 4th magnitude star and if you are older your vision might not even allow that . . . believe what you want ; I think physics is great (pretty factual). Folks believe in a lot of stuff but unfortunately a lot is not factual . . . the "glints" of sunlight off the Iridium satellites are spectacular though but last for a second or so . . . imagine seeing something the size of a 6 pack of beverages 300 miles up with you naked eye . . . . impossible . . . Jim W9VNE

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