...unfortunately same situation more or less here over europe..
my thought is that education must not give way to ignorance and rudeness.
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Inviato: sabato 21 febbraio 2009 3.52
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] What a shame!
During the over head pass this evening of AO-51 on the QRP transponder
there was a station that called QC from AOS to LOS. He obviously could
not hear himself or anyone else. A couple of stations
tried to call him and got no answer. I wont give the call but I am
sure he it was him. What a shame! Hard to believe anyone would be that
inconsiderate. I don't know if the DX was on or not but they sure
would have had no chance if they were. Then someone started sending
music towards the end of the pass. How bad is ham radio going to get
before we all get feed up and find another hobby? Sure
is causing me to rethink my opinion.
N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator
Echolink nodes #110903 -L #388463
Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ
Amsat Member #27845
VUCC SAT #135
WAS SAT #296
51 on AO-51 #13
LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il
>From the Foothills of the Blueridge
*Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!"
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Friday was a good day out here. The Yuma hamfest in Arizona
started at midday (1900 UTC), and there was a small crowd that
came through the exhibit hall where I had an AMSAT table.
Since this was a normal workday for most, tomorrow's crowd
should be much better. The weather was nice, but some of the
Harrier pilots from the Marine Corps airfield south of the
hamfest site made it very hard at times when the planes were
taking off. Flying low over the hamfest before gaining
altitude, those Harriers are LOUD! Even when sitting inside the
Since this was only a half-day, I only had two passes that I
did demonstrations on - an ISS pass around 1930 UTC, and an SO-50
pass later in the afternoon. Thanks to all who showed up on
those passes, and helping show off this corner of amateur radio.
Even long-time operators like Allen N5AFV and Rick WA4NVM, good
satellite operators who have thousands of QSOs in their logs and
a fair number of QSOs with me already, drop in and say "hello"
to me and the hamfest audience. Thanks!
After the hamfest ended at 0000 UTC, I saw I had some time before
another SO-50 pass and an AO-51 pass that followed immediately
after that. I decided to drive east from Yuma to a spot I visited
several weeks ago, on the DM22/DM32 grid boundary. I worked those
two passes, and made a total of 17 contacts (14 of those on a busy
AO-51 pass!). I said I would be on from "DM22-land" for a few days,
and kept to that - but also added DM32 to the list. After that
pass, I drove back to where I am staying while here for the hamfest
in Calexico CA.
Just before reaching Calexico, there was one more AO-51 pass just
before 0300 UTC to the west. I made 8 more QSOs there, including
real long-distance contacts :-) with Alex N2IX (my host while in
Calexico, a few miles/km west of where I stopped) and N6RNN north
of me in the next grid (DM23).
Tomorrow will be a full day at the Yuma hamfest. I'll have a couple
of helpers for the AMSAT table with me (Alex XE2BSS/N2IX, David
XE2DAK), which should let me do many demonstrations: on the FM birds,
the ISS (including hearing the ISS side of a scheduled contact in the
late morning), and a couple of SSB birds (VO-52, FO-29). There is a
barbecue in the evening after the hamfest officially closes, and then
I will have a chance to figure out what I'll do on Sunday before I
head back home on Monday.
Just heard KKS-1 go over (2009-02-21 0220 UTC). During the past
infrequent times I have listened to it, it just repeats the same message
for the full pass.
This time it gave:
Message 6 twice,
Message 1 three times,
Message 2 once
Message 3 once fully, then once without the last 5 characters
No message 4
Message 5 four times fully, then once with the last 2 characters missing
and back to message 6.
The 6 messages are detailed on their website.
I wonder if something is starting to fail?
73 de David VK5DG
Since the Hawk Institute has reorganized itself as a for-profit organization,
any radio amateur who provides tracking services for HawkSat-1 should be sure
to invoice them for those services at the commercial rate. Since you are only
receiving the signals and not transmitting, you would not be in violation of
Part 97 to be paid for your work. (However if Hawksat is transmitting on
amateur frequencies, they might be.)
Dan Schultz N8FGV
Subject:Re: New CubeSats #2
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:29:06 -0600
Satellite Operator Downlink Mode
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PharmaSat-1 NASA Ames 437.465 1200bps
HawkSat-1 HISS 437.345 ?
CP-6 CalPoly 437.365 1200bps
AeroCube-3 Aerospace Co. ? ?
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Unless that is another HISS besides the one at UMES, I don't plan to provide
any support until they give AMSAT-NA's stuff back, with interest. ;)
K5D was on the 20:05 pass of SO-50 with good signals this afternoon. It was
a low pass but I managed to work him with the mobile and 1/2 an Arrow on
They are having problems with high winds and blockage from the island,
especially to the east.
This evening on AO-51, PLEASE give them plenty of space to reply, and call
one at a time.
73, Drew KO4MA
Despite a lot of local QRM on the SO-50 downlink and the
absolute wall of stations in the first half of one AO-51
pass (50W could not break through from here!), it was a
very nice day in Mexicali. A good day to visit, with nice
weather and (mostly) good conditions on several satellite
passes. After over 4 years since my last trip to Mexico,
this would be my first opportunity to work the satellites
from there. Please note that my callsign when in Mexico is
XE2/WD9EWK, as the Mexicans follow the CEPT convention (also
used by FCC in the US except for visiting Canadian hams)
with the prefix/indicator comes before the foreign ham's
call. Please keep that in mind, if you are using Logbook of
the World and upload satellite contacts to that system - I
hope to do the same for my satellite QSOs eventually, including
those made from Mexico.
After getting my paperwork at the border (Mexican immigration)
and at the communications ministry, I was itching to get on the
air. The ISS was passing by just after midday local time (2039
UTC, to be precise), and I was able to work it from a spot in
the west end of Mexicali for a few QSOs. I tried SO-50 from
there around 2250 UTC, but had lots of QRM from nearby TV
transmitters on towers very close to that area. Ouch! After
that pass, I went across the city to the "Ciudad Deportiva"
(Sports City) complex, near the baseball stadium that is home to
a Mexican winter-league club and the recently-concluded Caribbean
Series tournament. More open space, and not as close to those
pesky TV transmitters.
The AO-51 pass around 0010 UTC was crazy for the first 5 minutes.
I could only break through a couple of times, and at one point
it was nothing but stations calling for me - and I could not even
get through to acknowledge any of them. I apologize for that, as
even 50W into my handheld antenna was no good against all that RF
to my east. I sincerely hope K5D is not greeted in the same manner
if they show up on the FM satellites, especially since they will
only have 5W to work with. After K7WIN cleared some space for me
to come through the crowd (many thanks, Jeff!), I was able to log
contacts. SO-50 right after that pass was a bit easier, with fewer stations and less QRM from those TV transmitters.
There was a really high AO-51 pass to the west around 0147 UTC,
and I was on there from a park area in a neighborhood a few miles/km
southwest of the baseball stadium. This turned out to also serve
as an impromptu demonstration for a local radio club, the "Red
Digital Noroeste" (Northwest Digital Network). Four club members
were there, and saw me work that western pass. I was closer to
the TV transmitters, but they seemed to have less effect on the
AO-51 435.300 MHz downlink compared to the SO-50 436.795 MHz
downlink (and zero effect on the ISS 145.800 MHz downlink). This
was a great pass to show satellite operating to hams who had never
seen or tried this part of the hobby. Thanks to all the stations
from central Mexico up through the western USA and Canada on the
pass! Then a quick get-together with the local hams to talk about
radio, satellites, and other stuff hams like to talk about almost
anywhere before crossing the border back into the USA and calling
it a night.
Quick stats... I worked 5 passes this afternoon/evening. On those
passes, I worked 6 stations through the ISS U/V cross-band repeater
on one pass, 12 on the 2 SO-50 passes, and 28 on the 2 AO-51 passes.
I operated from 3 different locations in Mexicali, two in DM22go and
one in DM22gp (the baseball stadium), and all 3 were not too far
south of the USA/Mexico border. Alex XE2BSS/N2IX, who was with me
during the day, took some pictures and has started uploading them to:
Alex is still adding pictures to this page, so consider it a "work
in progress". Check it again in a couple of days to see additional
pictures he posts there, and run the link through Babelfish or some
other translation site if you can't read the Spanish-language text
on that page.
For Friday afternoon and all day Saturday, I will continue to be in
grid DM22. For those two days, I will have an AMSAT table at the
Yuma AZ hamfest, and will do satellite demonstrations on FM and SSB
satellites as I had originally planned. I don't have firm plans for
Sunday yet, but hope to be on satellites once again from somewhere.
Monday is still my travel day back to Phoenix, possibly including
stops to work passes in other grids on my way home.
Good night, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK (now also XE2/WD9EWK) - Calexico, California
The FT-51 is a popular AMSAT HT for full duplex satellite work.
But the FT51 (and TH78) can also display DTMF Text Messages, and
I am considering updating my APRSdata program that sends
real-time satellite-in-view data for display on those radios.
Just set the radio to the DTMF text messaging channel whenever
you are mobile, and there on the radio, will appear the satelite
name, frequency of downlink and direction and elevation to the
satellite. When you see one of these, just QSY and work the
Then return to monitoring the DTMF data channel for the next
bird. You wont ever have to do any predictions for casual
But I don't have an FT51. SO I need someone that is familiiar
with their radio, has their manual, and can take the time to
figure out the DTMF text messsaging capabilities.
See www.aprs.org/aprs-dtmf-gate.html to see how we are taking
local APRS data and displaying it on the FT51 and TH78 radio
front panels just like we do for APRS radios. Adding Satellite
info is trivial to add.
Also, I need confirmation that the FT11 and FT41 can also do the
DTMF TEXT MESSAGING too.