March 2013 - AMSAT-BB - mailman.amsat.org

re-homebrew az-el systems
by Mike Hoblinski 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

What about useing simple timing belts and pulleys that are off the shelf parts for the gear box. I have seen off the shelf bearing mounts that could be used. Maybe a frame for the rotor could be made out of simple aluminum plate or out of something like aluminum extrusion stock and use the slots to mount the bearing holders. You could use multiple large and small pulleys to build the gear reduction up to a sizeable ammount to turn the axixes. You could also look at sprokets and chain drive. Right now their is not a lot of AZ and EL rotors to choose from and they are expensive. The other problem is that when they break parts are hard to come by and expensive and for most people its too complicated for them to repair them self. Mike Hoblinski N6IMF

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Fw: Foxdelta ST-2 / LVB Tracker
by K&R Yoksh 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

Hello Howard, Thanks for the reply. I have posted on the FoxDelta email group, but haven't received a reply. I should mention that I don't think that the ST-2 is malfunctioning, nor do I think that your code has a problem. I just have a different type of rotator than the typical Yaesu. It would certainly make things easier if I did, but it would be quite an ordeal to change the rotator in my situation. I did not know the background of the Foxdelta vs. the LVB. I do understand that Amsat gets a donation with every LVB, and my intention was / is to donate again to Amsat when I can. I can certainly see where you're coming from re: the IP. I guess if nothing else, the ham satellite community as a whole benefits from your public domain IP, which helps generate more interest in satellites and satellite operation. As far as the hardware and software goes, I'll look at the grounding, but I am thinking that the issue lies in the fact that CDE uses a 12 volt feedback POT.. I built a simple resistor voltage divider back when I first got my Kansas City Tracker, so that the KCT would see 0-5v instead. This approach gives the KCT (or LVB) the correct voltage range, but I believe it may lower the resolution of the feedback system? I'll also try some ferrites on the leads from the CDE rotator box, in case transients are to blame. I'm certainly no programmer, but the software seems to stop the rotator immediately when the ADC sample value equals the target azimuth value. Once the antennas stop moving, the final location is different by 20 degrees or so. Once the rotator stops moving, however, the software doesn't recheck to see if the rotator is actually where it needs to be. My idea was to either change the ADC sample rate, or perhaps add a pause after the rotator stops, and repeat the routine to "fine tune" position. This is why I have been trying to recompile your source.. I've already got PICs programmed with your 0.7 and 0.9 HEX files.. 73, many thanks. Kyle K0KN > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Hello Kyle. >> >> Have you tried talking to Foxdelta themselves? >> >> Sadly, Foxdelta chose to take the LVB Tracker and make it their own >> without >> the decency of asking either AMSAT or me first, and therefore AMSAT does >> not >> benefit one iota from that. >> >> I donated the IP for the LVB Tracker to AMSAT some years ago. Indeed, if >> you >> really want to save money, you are welecome purchase the parts yourself >> and >> build it up the information has always been in the public domain. However >> it >> was never intended for a third party such as Foxdelta to pinch the IP for >> their own personal or commercial gain. >> >> The 0.9 firmware is on my website together with a programming tool, you >> do >> not need any Microchip development tools. That firmware has been working >> for >> many years now in certainly hundreds if not thousands of LVB Trackers. >> However I don't think that's your problem. Much more likely is that you >> have >> a grounding problem. There needs to be a _very_ low impedance ground >> return >> from the rotator to the PIC's ground or else the ADC will provide >> erroneous >> values. Typically this should be the screen of the cable. >> >> If you're sure it's my firmware doesn't work with your Foxdelta hardware, >> again I really do suggest that you should be discussing that with >> Foxdelta. >> >> 73, Howard G6LVB >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On >> Behalf Of K&R Yoksh >> Sent: 02 March 2013 04:20 >> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Foxdelta ST-2 / LVB Tracker >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a ST2 interface, and am wondering if anyone else is using a >> non-Yaesu rotator? I have a Yaesu G500a for elevation, and a CDE/Hygain >> Ham >> II for azimuth. This setup worked well with my Kansas City Tracker >> board, >> and the Yaesu G500a part of the system works PERFECT. >> >> The trouble is, no matter what software I use, or even if I manually >> issue >> pointing commands via serial terminal, the ST2 will stop my rotator too >> early, resulting in offpointing by about 20 degrees. I am using the same >> voltage divider that I used on my KCT, so the ST2 is seeing a 0-5v >> reading >> from the azimuth rotor POT. The LCD display matches the analog display >> within a degree, so the ST2 knows correctly where the azimuth rotator is >> aimed. >> >> My PC is communicating with the ST2 perfectly, I can see the display on >> the >> LCD of where the rotator should stop (say 300 degrees) but it will >> actually >> stop at 280 or 320 for example. Unlike my KCT, the ST2 will only make >> one >> attempt to aim. The KCT would stop the rotation, let the rotators and >> antennas settle for a second, then fine tune again if neccessary. >> >> I believe that this can be resolved by changing the sample rate or >> something else very minor. I've found the source code, and even tried >> twice >> to contact the author. I guess that because I didn't buy his LVB >> Tracker, >> he refuses to answer my emails? Not everyone has a pile of extra money >> laying around to donate to Amsat. I've donated in the past (back when the >> economy was in much better shape), but I cannot afford to right now, so I >> bought the Foxdelta ST-2 rather than the "genuine" LVB Tracker. >> >> I have tried many nights to compile the source, even without making any >> changes. MPLAB says I need a C compiler, etc, and I've tried everything >> I >> can think of to add one. >> >> I even bought an extra PIC for testing, etc, and put the .09 firmware on >> it, so now I have two PICs, one with 0.7 and one with 0.9. Both versions >> do >> the very same thing. >> >> Can anyone help? I'd like to be able to release a new version of the HEX >> file for the next guy in this situation. I really don't think it's >> necessary for me to sell my Ham II and buy a Yaesu rotator for this to >> work. >> >> 73 and thanks for any suggestions. >> >> Kyle >> K0KN >> Olathe, KS

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ISS Packet Radio
by Kelley Shaddrick 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

I've been working on a packet setup for ISS and other satellites. During the most recent pass of ISS, just a few moments ago, I heard a number of stations calling. Receive seems to be working. What's the appropriate way to contact others via ISS? I'm using a Kam Plus, are there certain settings I should be using or not using? I've looked at a number of websites and they seem to differ in the methods used or are discussing APRS. Thanks, -- Kelley - WØRK

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Re: kpc-9612 plus and online_kiss.exe
by James French 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

Hello Nadar, Ken, and Kevin. If you cold send me a text file of your settings, I could take a look to see what is happening. There is a command that you need to set from 'newbie' mode to 'expert' for the KPC-9612 to accept and keep the settings that you change. I am not near my KPC-9612 manual, so I can not give you the exact command to check to make sure. Email direct please. James W8ISS

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Wanted: STRaND-1 9600 baud recording ( either I/Q recording or WAV file recording )
by Douglas Quagliana 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

Does anyone have a recording of STRaND-1 transmitting at 9600 baud? I am looking for either an IQ recording of the signal or a WAV file recording. Thanks, Douglas KA2UPW/5

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Foxdelta ST-2 / LVB Tracker
by K&R Yoksh 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

Hello, I have a ST2 interface, and am wondering if anyone else is using a non-Yaesu rotator? I have a Yaesu G500a for elevation, and a CDE/Hygain Ham II for azimuth. This setup worked well with my Kansas City Tracker board, and the Yaesu G500a part of the system works PERFECT. The trouble is, no matter what software I use, or even if I manually issue pointing commands via serial terminal, the ST2 will stop my rotator too early, resulting in offpointing by about 20 degrees. I am using the same voltage divider that I used on my KCT, so the ST2 is seeing a 0-5v reading from the azimuth rotor POT. The LCD display matches the analog display within a degree, so the ST2 knows correctly where the azimuth rotator is aimed. My PC is communicating with the ST2 perfectly, I can see the display on the LCD of where the rotator should stop (say 300 degrees) but it will actually stop at 280 or 320 for example. Unlike my KCT, the ST2 will only make one attempt to aim. The KCT would stop the rotation, let the rotators and antennas settle for a second, then fine tune again if neccessary. I believe that this can be resolved by changing the sample rate or something else very minor. I've found the source code, and even tried twice to contact the author. I guess that because I didn't buy his LVB Tracker, he refuses to answer my emails? Not everyone has a pile of extra money laying around to donate to Amsat. I've donated in the past (back when the economy was in much better shape), but I cannot afford to right now, so I bought the Foxdelta ST-2 rather than the "genuine" LVB Tracker. I have tried many nights to compile the source, even without making any changes. MPLAB says I need a C compiler, etc, and I've tried everything I can think of to add one. I even bought an extra PIC for testing, etc, and put the .09 firmware on it, so now I have two PICs, one with 0.7 and one with 0.9. Both versions do the very same thing. Can anyone help? I'd like to be able to release a new version of the HEX file for the next guy in this situation. I really don't think it's necessary for me to sell my Ham II and buy a Yaesu rotator for this to work. 73 and thanks for any suggestions. Kyle K0KN Olathe, KS

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Thanks to Mike DK3WN
by WA6FWF 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

Thank You Mike for version 8.3 of Online Kiss, the new version works fine with my KPC-9612. 73 Kevin WA6FWF

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Ion Propulsion: Euroluna Update on CubeSat HT Power Supply
by Trevor . 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

See http://www.amsat-uk.org/?p=13488 73 Trevor M5AKA AMSAT-UK http://www.amsat-uk.org/ ----

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Re: kpc-9612 plus and online_kiss.exe
by Nader Omer 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

HI Me too! I've had the same problem!! 73's Nader Omer ,st2nh I've had the same problem!! 73, Ken, W7KKE -----Original Message----- From: WA6FWF Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 07:18 To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] kpc-9612 plus and online_kiss.exe Hi All Has anyone got the online_kiss app to work with a kpc-9612 plus? I have changed the init txt to intface kiss and reset I have tried putting the tnc into kiss mode before the app starts I have tried different port speeds matching my tnc setup And nothing ever shows up, but... using some other programs I see data coming from the sat on this tnc. I would like to get this working to make use of the write to file feature. Thanks 73 Kevin wa6fwf

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Re: Update On Dragon Malfunction
by Joe Leikhim 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

FRIDAY, MARCH 1, 2013 1959 GMT (2:59 p.m. EST) SpaceX founder and CEO's just tweeted: "Pods 1 and 4 now online and thrusters engaged. Dragon transitioned from free drift to active control. Yes!!" -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim(a)Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM

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