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L/S, Rube Goldberg style!
by Andrew Glasbrenner 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

I was on L/S tonight, albeit in an unusual fashion. My S dish is sitting in the garage with a broken feed, so I was restricted to listening on my Transystem and corner reflector from the front yard. I use an F6A HT to receive with, powered by a lead acid 2Ah battery stuck in my back pocket. I _really_ wanted to make a QSO, but the mike cord doesn't reach from the shack to the yard! I remembered my Icom 910H has a VOX feature. Hmmmm. It's hooked up to a PC running SatPC32 and hooked to a 24 element 1.2 yagi at 25 feet. I made up a new pair for the doppler file in SatPC32 that listened on a UHF simplex frequency, and transmitted on the L band uplink after doppler correction. I turned VOX on and laid the mike on the top of the rig near the speaker. Made a best guess at volume control, kerchunked it a few times and out to the yard I went about 2 minutes before AOS. I took my D7A out with me tuned to the simplex frequency I'd picked and started listening with the Transystem and the F6A. I heard Alan WA4SCA almost immediately. Doing my best Apollo inspired VOX-opening "ahhhh...KO4MA"... I'll be a monkey's uncle it worked! Alan and I had a nice chat until my speaker plug came out partway and the F6A thought I was trying to program it. I restablished the downlink after a minute or three and listened to Alan and N8BBQ chat until LOS. Anyways...just a note describing how things happen around the shack here at KO4MA sometimes ;-) 73, Drew KO4MA

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FW: Item for sale TH-D7A(G)
by Alan P. Biddle 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi, This floated up on a local list ARES list. Perhaps someone might be interested. If so, contact Chris direct. Alan WA4SCA -------------------------------------- > For Sale used TH-D7A(G) 2m/70cm Dual Band Handheld. Good Condition. > This Includes: > 1 TH-D7A(G) > 1 BC-19 Rapid Charger for PB-38/39 > 1 PB-39 NiCad Battery Pack 9V 600 mAh > 1 PG-3J Filtered Cigarette Lighter Cord. > 1 PG-4W PC Programming Cable software avaiable at kenwood.com > 1 SC-47OR Soft carry case with belt clip - bright orange. > 1 SMC-34 Speaker Mic with Remote and volume > 1 Wall plug > 1 Clear Acoustic tube earbud and mic > IF ALL THIS BOUGHT NEW: $620 > I am offering it all for $400 plus shipping and insurance. > > Contact Chris Kundrock KG4WYY at 615-566-8140 or at > chriskundrock(a)bellsouth.net

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s-band for cheap?
by Steve Attfield 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

hi everyone as some of you might know I'm a little cash strapped as I'm trying to do everything off a student budget. I'd like to be able to get onto the s-band downlink for AO-51 and some of those future birds that are coming...however it would appear that it is a little cost inhibitive. All the converter/transverters I found seem to be in the $300-$400 and i just don't have the money to do that. Will I just have to only work the birds when they're in v/u or is there a cheap way to do things? thanks -Steve VA3SAX

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Mounting Elevation part of g-5500
by Michael Wolthuis 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Quick question on mounting a g-5500 elevation router. Does it matter which way you mount it or can you set the controller to know where it is? This is a little hard to explain, but I want to mount it so the mass of the controller is horizontal to the ground, not vertical like when the az/el are package together. If I do this, will I be able to set the antennas somehow so the controller knows where they are or does it determine that on its own? If I mount it wrong and the controller can not be told where it is (ie. calibrated) then all of my degrees would be off by 90 because I am mounting the elevation portion horizontal instead of vertical. I hope this question makes sense, but I don't want to assemble it all up high and then findout it doesn't work as planned. Thanks for any input! Mike kb8zgl

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Kansas City Tracker - For Sale
by Thomas M. Webb 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

I have a Kansas City Tracker w/ tuner, Yaesu rotor interface cable, and manual. Works fine, but I'm upgrading my computer and can't find a suitable MOBO with an ISA slot. Make an offer! Tom Webb, WA9AFM/5

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Haruo Yoneda
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

This morning I received a phone call from Yuri Yoneda, Harry's (Haruo) daughter. Harry, JA1ANG, has been in the hospital for several months. He feel and broke a bone in his leg. While in the hospital he contracted Pneumonia 3 times. He is still in the hospital and the prognosis is not good. Harry who is 88 served on the AMSAT Board of Directors. 73- Martha

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coax patch after the LMR 600
by Prathap Kumar 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi All I am getting my new 30 ft tower and wish to changeover from RG213 to LMR600 I have, for the Vhf and Uhf cross yagis. Will be installing my masthead preamp too and its going to be convinient to use a short length of thinner coax patch upto the Beams near the AZEL. So any tips , suggestions on the type of thin cable RG-58 or RG-213. Thank you Best 73 Pop VU2POP :o) Vhf & Uhf cross yagis, Masthead preamp for Vhf, AZEL with digital readouts all home brew ;o)

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L/S Mode
by Bruce 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

BB Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the new mode. Comments from the bb. 73 Bruce KG4YEV

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AO-51 mode LS!
by Alan P. Biddle 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

All, Worked the next full pass in mode LS. AI7W was on with a great signal, and N7DRB(?) called a couple of times, but seemed to be in the noise. With fixed CP on the downlink, and linear uplink, I have noticed excellent signals, but with some short term spin QSB related to the aspect of the SC. As expected, putting LS together gives the product of the two. Works great, and not so crowded that you can't have a nice QSO! Alan WA4SCA

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Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 453
by Gopal Madhavan 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Mounting The G-5500 elevation rotor in any way other than vertical will cause problems as the condensate will not have a way to get out and will ruin the unit. The coordination with actual direction is easy as it just involves pointing the antenna correctly after mounting the unit any way you do. I am not sure if another drain hole drilled would solve the problem of drainage. Incidentally if it is a new unit, please do replace all the bolts holding the two halves together with SS Allen Key type bolts as after sitting in the open the regular screws are very difficult to remove with a regular screwdriver- I have had practical experience on this! Gopal VU2GMN -----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amsat-bb-request(a)amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 13:46 To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 453 Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to amsat-bb(a)amsat.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amsat-bb-request(a)amsat.org You can reach the person managing the list at amsat-bb-owner(a)amsat.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mounting Elevation part of g-5500 (David Johnson) 2. Re: Mounting Elevation part of g-5500 (George Henry) 3. L/S Mode (Bruce) 4. Re: L/S Mode (Greg D.) 5. Re: L/S Mode (Greg D.) 6. Re: L/S Mode (w7lrd(a)comcast.net) 7. AO-51 (Viktor Kudielka) 8. coax patch after the LMR 600 (Prathap Kumar) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 23:11:54 +0100 From: David Johnson <g4dpz(a)mac.com> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mounting Elevation part of g-5500 To: Michael Wolthuis <wolthui3(a)msu.edu> Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <F6898B86-C33F-45E0-8ABA-B152A0BCE636(a)mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, Beware mounting it at 90 degrees to the vertical. It has a drain hole at the bottom to allow for the drainage of condensation when mounted on the 'U' bracket. 73 Dave On 9 Jul 2007, at 22:48, Michael Wolthuis wrote: > Quick question on mounting a g-5500 elevation router. Does it matter > which way you mount it or can you set the controller to know where it > is? This is a little hard to explain, but I want to mount it so the > mass of the controller is horizontal to the ground, not vertical like > when the az/el are package together. If I do this, will I be able to > set the antennas somehow so the controller knows where they are or > does it determine that on its own? > > If I mount it wrong and the controller can not be told where it is > (ie. calibrated) then all of my degrees would be off by 90 because I > am mounting the elevation portion horizontal instead of vertical. > > I hope this question makes sense, but I don't want to assemble it all > up high and then findout it doesn't work as planned. > > Thanks for any input! > > Mike > kb8zgl > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:38:07 -0500 From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mounting Elevation part of g-5500 To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <003601c7c282$349203f0$0500a8c0@parents> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original As David already mentioned, you may create drainage problems by mounting your elevation rotor horizontally... if you want to block the existing hole, and drill a new one in the new "bottom" of the rotor, you may be okay, but "you pays your nickel, you takes your chances". As far as "setting" the antenna position, the controller doesn't care how the rotor itself is mounted: when the rotor is at the zero degree limit of its travel, you mount your antennas pointing at the horizon, and you have established the zero degree position. Everything is relative from there. George, KA3HSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wolthuis" <wolthui3(a)msu.edu> To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Mounting Elevation part of g-5500 > Quick question on mounting a g-5500 elevation router. Does it matter > which way you mount it or can you set the controller to know where it > is? This is a little hard to explain, but I want to mount it so the > mass of the controller is horizontal to the ground, not vertical like > when the az/el are package together. If I do this, will I be able to > set the antennas somehow so the controller knows where they are or > does it determine that on its own? > > If I mount it wrong and the controller can not be told where it is > (ie. calibrated) then all of my degrees would be off by 90 because I > am mounting the elevation portion horizontal instead of vertical. > > I hope this question makes sense, but I don't want to assemble it all > up high and then findout it doesn't work as planned. > > Thanks for any input! > > Mike > kb8zgl ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:26:06 -0400 From: "Bruce" <snyderb(a)cox.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] L/S Mode To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <000701c7c299$ab5f8fe0$6501a8c0@W5YI> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original BB Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the new mode. Comments from the bb. 73 Bruce KG4YEV ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:53:55 -0700 From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode To: snyderb(a)cox.net, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <BAY118-F11DEC2520AD5D137F59582A9050(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Bruce, Well something's working. I just finished the 03:30z pass here. I heard a couple of partial calls on the 2401.200+/- ghz downlink - VE7C?? and another partial suffix. The pass started with someone with a nice clear signal and a Spanish/Mexican accent. There was a call sign, but I didn't catch it. However, I was not able to get into the bird myself on 1268.700 +/-. Not even a change in static, even right after I heard an apparent full-quieting "kerchunk". This is with my new and unproven helix antenna, so I have one too many unknowns here to know what the problem is. I did follow the same doppler process on the L-band uplink, and also swept the general vicinity, so that shouldn;t have been the problem, and the pass peaked at about 50 degrees. Nothing back from my uplink. Anybody else have a go at it? Greg KO6TH. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bruce" <snyderb(a)cox.net> To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] L/S Mode Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:26:06 -0400 BB Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the new mode. Comments from the bb. 73 Bruce KG4YEV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:27:55 -0700 From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <BAY118-F124B08E8830FF145F8E2E3A9050(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Nothing heard on the 05:10z pass. Only a 10 degree pass, but off in a favorable direction (no trees). Downlink carrier was very weak and barely there, if at all. Keying up on 1268 had no effect, as before, though I doubt I would have heard anything even if it had.. Anybody having success? Greg KO6TH ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com> To: snyderb(a)cox.net, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:53:55 -0700 Hi Bruce, Well something's working. I just finished the 03:30z pass here. I heard a couple of partial calls on the 2401.200+/- ghz downlink - VE7C?? and another partial suffix. The pass started with someone with a nice clear signal and a Spanish/Mexican accent. There was a call sign, but I didn't catch it. However, I was not able to get into the bird myself on 1268.700 +/-. Not even a change in static, even right after I heard an apparent full-quieting "kerchunk". This is with my new and unproven helix antenna, so I have one too many unknowns here to know what the problem is. I did follow the same doppler process on the L-band uplink, and also swept the general vicinity, so that shouldn;t have been the problem, and the pass peaked at about 50 degrees. Nothing back from my uplink. Anybody else have a go at it? Greg KO6TH. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bruce" <snyderb(a)cox.net> To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] L/S Mode Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:26:06 -0400 BB Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the new mode. Comments from the bb. 73 Bruce KG4YEV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:59:07 +0000 From: w7lrd(a)comcast.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com>, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <071020070659.6265.46932E3B000A1D520000187922120207840B9D04C999(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Greg and I will try to make every pass available on 7/10. I have been praying to the L band gods. We'll see what happens. 10 watts-40feet hardline-40 turn helix. 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com> > Nothing heard on the 05:10z pass. Only a 10 degree pass, but off in a > favorable direction (no trees). Downlink carrier was very weak and barely > there, if at all. Keying up on 1268 had no effect, as before, though I > doubt I would have heard anything even if it had.. > > Anybody having success? > > Greg KO6TH > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Greg D." > To: snyderb(a)cox.net, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:53:55 -0700 > > Hi Bruce, > > Well something's working. I just finished the 03:30z pass here. I heard a > couple of partial calls on the 2401.200+/- ghz downlink - VE7C?? and another > partial suffix. The pass started with someone with a nice clear signal and > a Spanish/Mexican accent. There was a call sign, but I didn't catch it. > > However, I was not able to get into the bird myself on 1268.700 +/-. Not > even a change in static, even right after I heard an apparent full-quieting > "kerchunk". This is with my new and unproven helix antenna, so I have one > too many unknowns here to know what the problem is. I did follow the same > doppler process on the L-band uplink, and also swept the general vicinity, > so that shouldn;t have been the problem, and the pass peaked at about 50 > degrees. Nothing back from my uplink. > > Anybody else have a go at it? > > Greg KO6TH. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bruce" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] L/S Mode > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:26:06 -0400 > > BB > > Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the > new > mode. Comments from the bb. > > 73 Bruce KG4YEV > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM > _mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM > _mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:29:01 +0000 From: Viktor Kudielka <viktor.kudielka(a)ieee.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <20070710072901.GA10913(a)saturn.oe1kib.ampr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii July 10; 07:15 UTC AO-51 over Vienna in V/S mode, with uplink on 145.920 MHz, very strong signals! Vy 73, Viktor, OE1VKW ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:45:49 +0530 From: "Prathap Kumar" <vu2pop(a)gmail.com> Subject: [amsat-bb] coax patch after the LMR 600 To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <005601c7c2ca$89334750$2201a8c0@p9c9fa16b80794> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi All I am getting my new 30 ft tower and wish to changeover from RG213 to LMR600 I have, for the Vhf and Uhf cross yagis. Will be installing my masthead preamp too and its going to be convinient to use a short length of thinner coax patch upto the Beams near the AZEL. So any tips , suggestions on the type of thin cable RG-58 or RG-213. Thank you Best 73 Pop VU2POP :o) Vhf & Uhf cross yagis, Masthead preamp for Vhf, AZEL with digital readouts all home brew ;o) ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat-bb(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 453 ****************************************

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AO-51
by Viktor Kudielka 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

July 10; 07:15 UTC AO-51 over Vienna in V/S mode, with uplink on 145.920 MHz, very strong signals! Vy 73, Viktor, OE1VKW

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Re: L/S Mode
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Greg and I will try to make every pass available on 7/10. I have been praying to the L band gods. We'll see what happens. 10 watts-40feet hardline-40 turn helix. 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(a)hotmail.com> > Nothing heard on the 05:10z pass. Only a 10 degree pass, but off in a > favorable direction (no trees). Downlink carrier was very weak and barely > there, if at all. Keying up on 1268 had no effect, as before, though I > doubt I would have heard anything even if it had.. > > Anybody having success? > > Greg KO6TH > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Greg D." > To: snyderb(a)cox.net, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: L/S Mode > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:53:55 -0700 > > Hi Bruce, > > Well something's working. I just finished the 03:30z pass here. I heard a > couple of partial calls on the 2401.200+/- ghz downlink - VE7C?? and another > partial suffix. The pass started with someone with a nice clear signal and > a Spanish/Mexican accent. There was a call sign, but I didn't catch it. > > However, I was not able to get into the bird myself on 1268.700 +/-. Not > even a change in static, even right after I heard an apparent full-quieting > "kerchunk". This is with my new and unproven helix antenna, so I have one > too many unknowns here to know what the problem is. I did follow the same > doppler process on the L-band uplink, and also swept the general vicinity, > so that shouldn;t have been the problem, and the pass peaked at about 50 > degrees. Nothing back from my uplink. > > Anybody else have a go at it? > > Greg KO6TH. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bruce" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] L/S Mode > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:26:06 -0400 > > BB > > Either my S-Band D/L is not working or the sat never shifted into the > new > mode. Comments from the bb. > > 73 Bruce KG4YEV > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migrati… > _mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migrati… > _mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Newbie in the UK
by Chris Bloy 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi All, Are there any members in the UK, well, South Coast (Portsmouth) area belong to the list who would be willing to show me the best way to work the FM sats? Look forward to any replies.. Thanks, Chris... M0DQO UK No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.1/889 - Release Date: 06/07/2007 20:00

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Re: Newbie in the UK
by Chris Bloy 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi John, >>I haven't seen the details yet, but the beginners stream usually runs >>in parallel with the other lectures on the Friday afternoon. I put >>the skeleton 2007 programme up on the AUK website based on what >>happened in 2006 and the details should start to appear in the next >>week or so. >> Ok, well i dont know if i will be able to get the Friday off from work, but will go on the members advise? >>I would be interested to know what email address you sent them to? >> To Jim on the Amsat uk website g3wgm(a)amsat.org? I asked him if they still have an arrow's instock and also sent one after it about the joining side and how its joining so late in the year? >>The Arrow's are produced in the US and they won't ship out of the US >>so its down to the goodness of travelers who bring them back as hand >>baggage. As such they are always in short supply and the best person >>to ask is Jim Heck (g3wgm(a)amsat.org). I wouldn't mind one myself. >> See above, do you have a home setup? I am interested in doing portable working, hence the arrow? Thanks, Chris

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Re: Newbie in the UK
by Chris Bloy 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi Paul, Many thanks for the words of advise.. I look forward to perhaps hearing you on AO51 at some point.. Its seems a shame that the US amsat site sat status isnt more up-to-date, as I am unsure of what is correct and what isnt.. thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: "Paul Luggar" <luggsey(a)hotmail.com> To: "Chris Bloy" <chris(a)photofuture.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:26:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie in the UK Hi Chris, I just saw your post about Amsat/working sats etc. I went through it all myself and ended up self teaching myself due to the lack of good "elmering" in this area. If I can help just join my forum (Link below) and I will do what I can to answer any questions you may have. My prefrence is the LEO FM sats, all others love the SSB but there is something special about the FM LEO's for me. I'm also heavily into the APRS side of things. 73 Paul Luggar M0SCI Website WWW.M0SCI.CO.UK Amsat-UK Member 6484 www.m0sci.co.uk/forum Devon and Cornwalls Amateur Radio Message Board m0sci(a)gb7cow.#44.gbr.eu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bloy" <chris(a)photofuture.co.uk> To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie in the UK > Hi Howard & All, > > Many thanks to all those who replied to my plee for help both on list and > personally! > > I would like to attend this event, i have checked out the details and > wondered what the best day for me to actually come and watch these demo's? > Perhap someone could take me under there wing on such an event? > > Also, like your web site Howard.. keep up the good work! I have been a > little put off about joining AMSAT due to a couple of emails sent to the > UK > group that havent been replied to at all :( > > one was about the Arrow Antenna and if I should invest and the other was > to > join? Its a big off putting when you dont get a reply at all, hence my > message to the group.. This has really helped and its good to know you > guys > are there to support when needed.. > > All the best, > > Chris Bloy > M0DQO, FAREHAM, UK > > www.sehr.co.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Howard Long" <howard(a)howardlong.com> > To: "'Chris Bloy'" <chris(a)photofuture.co.uk>, <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:54:52 +0100 > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Newbie in the UK > > > Hi Chris > > Did you get any help? > > There is the AMSAT Colloquium on in a couple of weeks in Guildford - > there's > lots of real live demos there. > > 73, Howard G6LVB > > -----Original Message----- > From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Chris Bloy > Sent: 07 July 2007 21:21 > To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Newbie in the UK > > Hi All, > > > > Are there any members in the UK, well, South Coast (Portsmouth) area > belong > to the list who would be willing to show me the best way to work the FM > sats? > > > > Look forward to any replies.. > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris... M0DQO > > UK > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.1/889 - Release Date: 06/07/2007 > 20:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 08/07/2007 > 18:32 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 08/07/2007 18:32

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Re: Future radical satellite designs
by Joe Leikhim 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

I have mentioned this before and will again: Why not construct clusters of low voltage batteries each with their own set of solar cells. Then each low voltage battery ( 3 volts or so) has its own boost voltage converter to charge to a much higher voltage bus (15-24 volts). In this way, the failure or depletion of a battery will affect only the available current on the bus, not the voltage. The solar cells could then be placed on all sides of the spacecraft and charge their associated batteries at will, with no concern of having the entire solar cell array in same plane with the sun as there would be with a high voltage string of solar cells. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P

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Re: Future radical satellite designs
by Fred A Parker 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

I am in the process of putting a group together of local amateurs to build and launch a triple Cubesat. The club will be called the Northern Lakes Amateur Satellite Organization. we have already drawn up the bylaws and a locale ham, an attorney is preparing the paper work. The website should be up in about two weeks. Our goals are to put together a single ham radio payload in a cubebesat. Have spoken to several persons in the Amsat NA origination. They have agreed to do the peer review for us. As we are week in electronics part of it. I am a retired aerospace machinist and have for the last three years been doing a lot of the mechanical work for Amsat. So the mechanical side of it will be easy for us. On the payload we have not made a final decision. Here is some of our ideas. 1: Leverage from the electronic package that is planned for Suitsat 2. This our preferred payload. As it would give us a lot of flexibility with the SDR transponder. Only problem is when is suitsat 2 going to be ready? If it is going to take to long our group may not want to wait. 2: Would be to build a transponder with hamtronics kits. Upside of this is that all parts are off the shelf and could be easily assembled in few months. Bob Bruninga has been using them for some time with success. 3: Ask someone to build us a transponder who has more experience than us. On the orbit. To me the ideal orbit would be an MEO orbit. To see what that would mean I suggest David's G0MRF http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/MEOSAT.htm website I have seen some talk on the web that that SpaceX maybe launching cubesats into MEO. Otherwise there seems to be launch availability in LEO. Fred KF0AK

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1.2 GHz antennas
by John Kopala 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Any recommendations for 1.2 GHz satellite antennas? I've been looking at a Directive Systems 2325LY as a possible choice. I was trying to find an antenna of similar size with circular polarization switchable between RHCP and LHCP. John Kopala N7JK

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hi-gain antennas
by Fernandez Montaña, Juan Antonio 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi Joe, I have been using these antennas for years and I did not have any problem. One of the main advantages is that they are not very heavy. You can see a comparative of CP antennas at http://eb4dka.tk , into the "archivos" carpet there are several articles in relation satellites apart form the comparative. The articles are in Spanish although you will not have any problem to understand the tables. Surely at the end of the summer the Web will be in English too. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ 73s =============================================================== Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Los datos incluidos en el presente correo son confidenciales y sometidos a secreto profesional, especialmente en lo que respecta a los datos personales, se prohibe divulgarlos, en virtud de las leyes vigentes. Si usted no lo es y lo ha recibido por error o tiene conocimiento del mismo por cualquier motivo, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por este medio y proceda a destruirlo o borrarlo, y que en todo caso se abstenga de utilizar, reproducir, alterar, archivar o comunicar a terceros el presente mensaje y ficheros anexos, todo ello bajo pena de incurrir en responsabilidades legales. Cualquier idea contenida en este correo es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente el criterio de Iberdrola. El emisor no garantiza la integridad, rapidez o seguridad del presente correo, ni se responsabiliza de posibles perjuicios derivados de la captura, incorporaciones de virus o cualesquiera otras manipulaciones efectuadas por terceros. This message is intended for the exclusive attention of the address(es) indicated. Any information contained herein is strictly confidential and privileged, especially as regards personal data, which must not be disclosed, in accordance with legislation currently in force. If you are not the intended recipient and have received it by mistake or learn about it in any other way, please notify us by return e-mail and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, alteration, filing or sending of this message and/or any attached files to third parties may lead to legal proceedings being taken. Any opinion expressed herein is solely that of the author(s) and does not necessarily represent the opinion of Iberdrola. The sender does not guarantee the integrity, speed or safety of this message, not accept responsibility for any possible damage arising from the interception, incorporation of virus or any other manipulation carried out by third parties. ===============================================================

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Re: Hy-Gain Yagi Antenna
by Pughkeithd＠cs.com 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

In a message dated 7/8/2007 10:40:06 PM Central Daylight Time, gary_mayfield(a)hotmail.com writes: > Subj: [amsat-bb] Hy-Gain Yagi Antenna > Date:7/8/2007 10:40:06 PM Central Daylight Time > From:[email protected] > To:[email protected] > Received from Internet: > > > Is anyone using these antennas? > > Hy-Gain http://www.hy-gain.com/ > UB-7030SAT > VB-216SAT > > What do you think of them? > > 73, > Joe kk0sd > Amsat 21357 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Joe, I have used a set of these as portable antennas for many years. The first use was for W1AW/5 the first year (1989?) we hosted the ARRL National at Ham-Com. Initial assembly was a challenge but we made it. The longest use was at the Soviet Space Exhibit in Fort Worth (1991). They were installed on top of the exhibit hall for six months and were used daily for LEOs and AO-13. They have been used for every Field Day since initial purchase and for several ARISS School Contacts (2 m only). I worked you with them on a couple of Birds this Field Day. I have used them on my portable tripod in my own back yard for several extended periods. Performance has always been good and they have withstood the partial disassembly and transportation well. The disassembly was only to shorten the booms. Elements were left in place. One of these days I will finally get around to replacing my KLMs (they have not been functional for some time) at the home QTH and the Hy-Gains will be considered along with the M2 antennas. I hope this helps. 73 - Keith, W5IU

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Field Day 2007
by Bruce 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Now that field day is over, I hope everyone that participated had as much fun as they had expected. There is just one more thing to do. Be sure to send in your results and photos. If you are going to send via email (the preferred method), I will confirm that I have received your email (give me a day or two). If you do not get the confirmation, then something happened and you should resubmit. The deadline for receiving your submission (either email or postal mail) for AMSAT Field Day is Monday, July 16, 2007 at 11:59 P.M. CDT. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on W0KIE Intelsat Americas, T1, 6.2/6.8Mhz Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org

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Re: Fwd: Future radical satellite designs
by Patrick McGrane 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Hello maggie- I hate it when people snip or take things out of context. Go back to the original entire email to absorb the reason. thanks, patrick ------- Original Message ------- >From : Margaret Leber[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 7/8/2007 8:27:59 AM To : amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Future radical satellite designs On 7/8/07, Patrick McGrane <N2OEQ(a)aceweb.com> wrote: > Some will argue that they want continuous duty whenever the satellite is in range, day or night. > I would like to see a longer lived satellite capable of full power half the time that could > potentially last several decades in orbit. That's really insightful. So many of the birds end up operating in that mode *anyway*; what could be accomplished if we designed them that way on purpose? -- 73 de Maggie K3XS Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280 By the way, inbound email is broken on the address you're using: "SMTP Error (state 13): 550 5.1.1 <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> is not a valid mailbox" _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: Future radical satellite designs
by G0MRF＠aol.com 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

In a message dated 08/07/2007 17:06:50 GMT Standard Time, N2OEQ(a)aceweb.com writes: I did read the whole thing. The challenges to amateur secondary payloads on commercial or military spacecraft have been discussed here at length in the past. *My* comment was that a standalone bird *designed* without battery-powered transmitters might be an interesting approach. Hello Patrick / Maggie / John As you all know battery failure has been the most common failure mode for AMSAT spacecraft for a very long time. Patrick's idea of solar power only will be put into practice with this falls launch of a triple cubesat Delfi3C. It has a 40kHz linear UV transponder and no batteries. - Should be very interesting. However, solar power alone has its own problems. With changing angles between the panel and the sun the voltage or perhaps more accuratly, power, will change with change in attitude. Consequently the supply could drop out frequently unless there is some form of short term storage. Certainly there would need to be some form of sequencing so that vital control electronics are given priority over heavy curent parts of the payload. Super capacitors would be a really neat experiment but I wonder how they would react if a large energetic particle pentrates the capacitor when it's holding a large charge? Perhaps OK for LEO, maybe a bit risky for HEO through the radiation belts. There could be another approach. The batteries usually go short circuit pulling all power from the solar panels to ground. Ocassionally they go open circuit....as per AO-7. but this must be a rare event. Imagine a satellite PSU which uses a battery but has a solid state relay between the battery and the satellite buss. Solid state relays have very low on resistance and only need a couple of milliamps to keep them in the on position. For 5 to 10 years the battery could supply the few milliamps required to maintain the relay in the on position. When the battery eventually fails, if it goes short circuit it pulls all the power to ground and the satellite stops working. However, at that point the relay loses its couple of milliamps 'holding current'. At this point the relay open circuits and the faulty battery is isolated from the still functioning solar panels and the satellite is restored to life.....but only in sunlight. There may be a down side to this, but if there is I cant see it. I suppose every now and again the satellite CPU could supply a few milliamps to the relay just to see if the battery has recovered. If it has it will be charged and normal operation will be restored. If not, then the supply line will get shorted to ground via the battery and then the relay will open again restoring the satellite to solar only power. Have I missed the obvious or is this a neat idea? regards David G0MRF

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Re: Future radical satellite designs
by Patrick McGrane 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

hi maggie- sorry for being short with you. Thank you for the more detailed posting. For low power sleep mode or standby of control electronics, super capacitors become more practical and longer lasting than batteries. I believe someone in the group has or is experimenting with supercaps. One possible group to approach for inclusion of an auxilliary payload is NOAA since they are prolific satellite builders and have a preexisting relationship with the amateur community. Take care, pat ------- Original Message ------- >From : Margaret Leber[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 7/8/2007 10:05:41 AM To : amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Cc : Subject : RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Future radical satellite designs On 7/8/07, Patrick McGrane <N2OEQ(a)aceweb.com> wrote: > Hello maggie- I hate it when people snip or take things out of context. > Go back to the original entire email to absorb the reason. thanks, patrick I did read the whole thing. The challenges to amateur secondary payloads on commercial or military spacecraft have been discussed here at length in the past. *My* comment was that a standalone bird *designed* without battery-powered transmitters might be an interesting approach. As it stands now we have several birds on-orbit designed with larger battery systems (that have subsequently failed) that come up in various random control system states when they come out of eclipse. These birds only transmit when in sunlight anyway; what if we designed one that way on purpose? Now *that's* a "radical satellite design". The payload weight that would have gone to bigger batteries to power transmitters during eclipse could be used for other equipment. A smaller (more reliable? certainly simpler and cheaper) auxiliary battery system could keep the control systems alive during eclipse. A lot of work is being done with ultra-low-power processor chips for mobile applications these days. Imagine if AO-40 had used this approach (admittedly not at all in-line with the elaborate something-for-everyone AO-40 design philosophy); it might still be usable. As it is, when the complex power system failed, we lost the whole bird. And the only hope of recovering it is the outside chance that it might fail *again*. -- 73 de Maggie K3XS Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Future radical satellite designs
by Patrick McGrane 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Greetings from Patrick N2OEQ Let me preface my comments by stating the following; The solar energy in space, outside the atmosphere, is approximately 1400 watts per square meter. This equates to about 130 watts per square foot. AO-51 ( amsat Echo ) is roughly a one foot cube covered with 27 percent efficient GaAs solar cells which cost approximately 20,000 dollars. With that efficiency and almost complete side coverage with solar cells, I would guess the satellite solar cell power conversion is about 25 to 30 watts for half the orbit time. Conservatively, that is about 300 watthours or more per day. Now, the transmitter might use 2 watts of energy to provide the 500 milliwatt downlink RF power and the satellite control electronics uses about 1 watt of energy. The Digital transmitter might use another couple of watts. For argument sake, I'll say the satellite uses 5 watts continuously for 24 hours per day or about 125 watthours per day. For some reason, it seems the full potential of the solar cells is lost or underutilized. The transmitters power is kept low to reduce the batteries depth of discharge to a minimum to extend the battery life. The point I am trying to make is that if amsat is going to pioneer new technologies in satellite design, they should keep their eye on the big picture or the basics of operation. I'm aware that people are trying to find a replacement for batteries but I would go further in saying that perhaps for future designs that amsat resort to solar dependant power output or specifically, full transmitter power directly powered by the solar cells and a sleep mode while the satellite is in darkness. >From what I have learned about satellites, batteries are the weakest link often spelling disaster and limited satellite lifetimes. I would rather enjoy a high power intermittent solar satellite for many years more than the average lifespan of one dependant on battery life and cycling. Some will argue that they want continuous duty whenever the satellite is in range, day or night. I would like to see a longer lived satellite capable of full power half the time that could potentially last several decades in orbit. Another point to ponder is the idea of asking to have auxilliary or piggyback payloads on larger commercial satellites. This was done with the russian RS satellites and more recently with India's Hamsat. The larger commercial satellites would probably have much larger and more efficient power budgets. I just read on the space.com website ( linked from amsat ) that the new Directv satellite is about 6 or 7 thousand pounds and probably utilizes the most advanced and reliable technology available. Wouldnt it be cheaper and easier to build an auxilliary payload versus an autonomous satellite? This question has probably been answered many times but I'll bring it up again. If it is a costly idea, is the additional cost justified by better, more reliable operation? Thanks for allowing this forum and thanks for all replies. 73, patrick

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Fwd: Future radical satellite designs
by Margaret Leber 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

On 7/8/07, Patrick McGrane <N2OEQ(a)aceweb.com> wrote: > Some will argue that they want continuous duty whenever the satellite is in range, day or night. > I would like to see a longer lived satellite capable of full power half the time that could > potentially last several decades in orbit. That's really insightful. So many of the birds end up operating in that mode *anyway*; what could be accomplished if we designed them that way on purpose? -- 73 de Maggie K3XS Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280 By the way, inbound email is broken on the address you're using: "SMTP Error (state 13): 550 5.1.1 <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> is not a valid mailbox"

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WTB G3RUH patch
by Andrew Glasbrenner 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

I'm in the market for a used G3RUH 2.4ghz patch antenna if anyone has one they would like to sell. 73, Drew KO4MA

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demod
by Glenn Little WB4UIV 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

The TV station that I work at has been cleaning up. Being the ham that I am, I do not like to see electronics thrown out (a green thing, lead ya know). One of the things headed out was a Wegener series 2011 FSK demod. This is a 9600 bps bit rate FSK Data Demod. It is currently set to a subcarrier frequency of 5.520760 MHz. The output of the card should be RS-232C. Does this have any potential use for listening to the data from any of our birds?? I have the demod, power supply, frame and most important the instruction manual! 73 Glenn WB4UIV

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Kennedy Space center
by Dee 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Hi all, I had seen a post that someone went to the KSC and had a good time and I am thinking of visiting the next Space shuttle launch in August. Anyone have some contacts down there to be in the so called grand stands?? Any of you astonauts reading this BB that could possibly help too?? No, I am not travelling in anRV- just a rental car as us "ordinary" tourists travel in. Thanks for the bandwith. 73, Dee Interdonato, NB2F NJ AMSAT Co-ordinator

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Assistance needed for PK-96 and Mspe 2.01a (Wisp3215)
by Georges Wilenski 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Hi All, Does someone use successfully a AEA PK-96 TNC with WISP3215 ( last version with MSPE 2.01a ) ? Problem : when using MSPE 2.01a , PK-96 does not switch the transceiver to transmit mode. Thanks for help. Pse answer only to my e-mail adress : f5vif(a)amsat.org 73' ................................George................F5VIF JN25po

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Satellites and Icom IC-R20 receiver
by Luciano G. Nachif 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Hello folks! I would like to hear any comment regarding the Icom IC-R20. I'm on the market for the above and would like to know how it performs as I will be listening to ham radio activity on HF and satellites bands. Your comments are really welcomed. Thanks in advance, Luciano PT9KK

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Off Topic - Wierless Router
by Tony 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

All: Just about to install a wireless router to replace a hardwire system and was wondering if they tend to produce stronger birdies on HF/VHF than hardwire? If so, are some wireless brands better than others? Thanks, Tony K2MO

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Strange noise/s on AO-51...
by Ernest Erickson 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

I wonder if there's ben some experimenting on this bird with D-Star, as there was already with AO-27. That may explain the white noise people have reported hearing. Digital signals would appear as white noise on a standard analog FM receiver. Ernest A. Erickson, KA9UCE Applied Electronic Communications, AEC 10711 East Verbina Lane Florence, AZ. 85232 520.723.0602 aec9823(a)yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

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Strange noise on AO-51 over Northern Europe
by OZ1MY 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hi all in Europe, Tonight I heard a strange noise on AO-51 when it was to the North af me here in Copenhagen. It sounded like pulsating white noise. Anyone heard the same ? The pass had AOS at 2012 UTC here in Copenhagen. It was late in the pass. 73 OZ1MY Ib

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Re: Off Topic - Wireless Router
by Eric H Christensen 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

I've been running a Linksys WRT54G in the shack for the last year and I haven't had any interference problems from it. Now if I were going out to buy a new wireless router & switch I wouldn't go with the WRT54G as I have had some problems with it and I like to have a little more control over my network but that is just the geek coming out in me. I'm getting ready to flash it with OpenWRT (Kamikaze) here in the next few days so it might actually turn out to be a nice unit. 73s, Eric W4OTN >All: > >Just about to install a wireless router to replace >a hardwire system and was wondering if they tend >to produce stronger birdies on HF/VHF than >hardwire? If so, are some wireless brands better >than others? > >Thanks, > >Tony K2MO > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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2.4 GHz for R/C use?
by Jim Jerzycke 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Just stumbled across this in an ad for Tower Hobbies: http://www.towerhobbies.com/rcwnews/070210-futk6900.html I had no idea that the 2.4 GHz band was authorized for R/C use. 73, Jim KQ6EA

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IC-970 for sale
by Eddy GORA 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

I just considered to make a great unique offer to all interested on my IC-970. For quick sell, I agree to deal cheaper, on 1700 EUR complete, with 1.2GHz unit and PSU inside. Anyone interested, please write on email. Regards, Edi, YO3HCV No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 10:02 AM

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FW: [PPRAANet] Tom McDaniel, N0NTX - SK
by Dave Sloan 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hello, I know that Tom was very active with AMSAT and thought that I should share this news. 73, Dave N0EOP -----Original Message----- From: ppraanet-bounces(a)mailman.qth.net [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JIMMY D HARRIS Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:57 PM To: PPRAAnet(a)mailman.qth.net; ppdxg(a)ppdxg.com Subject: [PPRAANet] Tom McDaniel, N0NTX - SK I've just received a call from Cameron McDaniel, the brother of Tom McDaniel, N0NTX that Tom passed away on Monday July 2nd, 2007. Services are tentatively planned for Monday, July 9th. Other information is not clear at this time and will be made available later. Cameron needs to contact a friend of Tom's named Jim. Jim please call him at 338-2294. 73, Jim, AB0UK _______________________________________________ PPRAANet mailing list PPRAANet(a)mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ppraanet

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AO-27 does D-Star!
by Alan P. Biddle 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Interesting discussion at http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml about the first(?) D-Star QSO through a ham satellite. Alan WA4SCA ----------------------------------- Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's going to throw his best parties.

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Nova Won't Open
by sco＠mindspring.com 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Nova won't open on one of my laptops after I installed the last update from Dec 2006. It shows minimized in the Task Tray and does not give an option to expand. Could this be a memory issue with the laptop? Les W4SCO

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Source for MRF286 ?
by Tim Tuck 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hi all, I'm after some MRF286 Lateral Mosfets for a 1296 amp I'd like to build but both Digikey and RScomponents dont seem to stock them. Any info on where I might buy some would be greatly appreciated. thanks Tim -- VK2XTT :: QF56if :: BMARC :: WIA :: AMSAT =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta1 (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiSpam: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.90.1/3588 - Wed Jul 4 06:51:31 2007 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org

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Looking for GS-232B
by Jim Piccirillo 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello list! I am looking for a Yaesu GS-232B. Can anyone help me find a new or used one? Contact me off list is you prefer. . Thanks in advance! . Jim - WA1NBS

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D-star on satellite
by Luc Leblanc 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

If you come by the AO-27 web site http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml you can read the whole text. Seems we will soon have to share the pass bands and it will be probably the next year field day prime mode as this new mode will not have many user at this very early stage. It will be interesting to see how the control teams will deal with this new mode? as doppler seems not to be an issue but it will be very helpful to all the users to know which satellite who can pass D-Star to avoid testing on numerous pass. I don't know if the eagle and P3E construction teams have planned this mode in their design? here is an excerpt from the article. ____________________________________________________________ For others that want to try D-Star via Satellite we have a few things to keep in mind. 1) Remember that the FM users can't hear you on the bird. They hear a strong "noise" but can't decode you. So please keep the D-Star transmitting short. If you can monitor the FM side, you can time your transmitting as to not step on them. Please try to schedule with other D-Star users instead of calling CQ for the entire pass. 2) Watch the doppler, at times you may not be able to decode a signal even if the other station can decode you. Keep your uplink on 145.850 for the entire pass. Program your radio call signs the same as for simplex, AO-27 does not have a D-Star call sign. You don't need to set up your radio for repeater use. 3) Before using other satellites besides AO-27, please check with the control operators of those satellites. Every FM satellite may not pass the D-Star signal nor may the control operators wish to have D-Star traffic on the bird. 4) If you here us on the Bird, please give us a call. We would love to have as many D-Star users on AO-27 as possible. The AO-27 Control Operators fully support and encourage the use of D-Star via Satellite on AO-27. A shout goes out to ICOM for creating Radios for this Fun new Amateur mode of operation. Without their radios we could not have made this contact. Michael N3UC AO-27 Control Operator __________________________________________________________________ "-" "SSB push away AM. Is D-Star will push away analog transmission on satellite?" Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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Contact on AO-27... Please QRZ ! :-)
by Jean-François Ménard 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hi to everybody..... I'm NEW to amateur satellite world. I did my first contact today with AO-27. I was using a Yaesu HT FT-60r with my ELK log VHF+UHF 5 elements antenna tracking manually with one hand and controlling the radio with the other one.... I was very nervous and I talked with to guys but did not write their callsign !!!! :-((( I did not have a third arm !! :-) The first one, hopefully he sent me an e-mail, was Paul N2BX.... Thanks Paul !! If you are the other one who talked to VA2VYZ using AO-27 on july 2nd 2007 around 19h35 UTC... please send me an e-mail... My contact info are on QRZ.COM. =========================== Jean-François Ménard / VA2VYZ Web: http://web.mac.com/jf.menard

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Re: LVB Tracker & Predict
by Clive Wallis 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Howard G6LVB wrote - > There is a new version of firmware, v0.8, to discard the null characters > that Predict generates, but I didn't get any responses to test it so I > >have never released it publicly. Many thanks for the file, which I've now downloaded. I'll try it, and let you know I get on. Firstly, I shall have to get Predict set up for real time tracking. AFAIK I need to find and install a client for driving the com port. I've used GS232, software interface, but wonder whether EasyComm or FODTrack drivers would be suitable for the LVB tracker. Unfortunately I'm not very experienced with Linux, so it may take a while to sort out Predict and its interface :-( 73 Clive G3CWV

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ASINFO....M2 prices
by Stargate 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hi all, I finally decided to bite the bullet, so I will be on the birds soon. (I hope):-) I checked prices at several companies and Burghardt beat them all. They even had a 436CP42UG with a damaged shipping box that they knocked off $60.00! I checked with.... Texas Towers 436CP42UG $349.00 2MCP22 $299.00 Burghardt 436CP42UG $309.00 (Negotiated) Regular Price $369.95 2MCP22 $279.95 Gigaparts 436CP42UG $387.00 2MCP22 $329.00 AES 436CP42UG $387.99 2MCP22 $329.99 HRO 436CP42UG $387.05 2MCP22 $329.95 Even without the discounted 436CP42UG, Burghardt had the best price for both antenna's including shipping. My total for both antenna's with shipping was $609.00. Burghardt told me they were closing out the M2 antenna's so they might be limited to what's in stock. If your in the market, you might want to get your order in. 73's, RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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EU Commission Identifies Europe's Radio Spectrum needs for WRC-07
by Trevor 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

EU Commission Press Release http://www.europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/07/987&type=… Communication regarding WRC-07 http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/radio_spectrum/docs/ref_docs… Note the reference to 3.4 GHz. AMSAT-UK will be holding their 22nd International Space Colloquium at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday July 20th to Sunday July 22nd. See http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium/ for details. 73 Trevor M5AKA ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Trouble with Space-Track.org
by Michael R. Owen 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Dear friends, There appears to be a problem with the Full Catalog at Space-Track.org. The file "catalog_3l_2007_06_21_pm.txt" contains no data at all. Be careful when downloading, as you may wipe out your previous Keplerian elements. W9IP -- Michael R. Owen, Ph.D. Northern Lights Software Associates http://www.nlsa.com

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Delfi-C3 transceiver PCB's
by W.J. Ubbels 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hi all, integration of Delfi-C3 progresses steadily, we are currently performing tests on the flight PCB's of the communications subsystem, including the linear transponder. For a photo of the transceiver PCB under test, visit http://www.delfic3.nl/photoblog Integrating all this functionality on a 90*96mm PCB has given us some sleepless nights :) 73 Wouter Jan PE4WJ -- W.J. Ubbels MSc. Delfi-C3 project manager electronic systems and communications Faculty of Aerospace Engineering Delft University of Technology room 8.19 Kluyverweg 1 2629 HS Delft +31 (0)15-2784615 w.j.ubbels(a)delfic3.nl w.j.ubbels(a)lr.tudelft.nl www.delfic3.nl PE4WJ

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LVB Tracker & Predict
by Howard Long 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Folks, Sorry I missed the URL for the updated firmware for the LVB Tracker to work with Predict. It is http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTracker/LVBTrackV0_8.hex. If anyone would like to try it, please let me know how you get on. Howard

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FO-29 Test Operation, 02 July 2007
by Mineo Wakita 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

JARL executed again the Test Operation. Now, they continue to check these data. You may be hear FO-29 CW signal over your area. FO-29 435.795 MHz, CW Only over Japan 05:14-05:29 UTC, 02 July 2007 14:14-14:29 JST, 02 July 2007 Max ele 56 deg HI HI 22 E2 88 D1 8F 16 05 25 00 24 00 00 6B 65 99 9C B0 93 BD B9 BA BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 17 05 25 00 24 00 00 67 65 99 9C B0 91 BD B9 BA BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 17 05 25 00 24 00 00 60 65 99 9C B0 81 BD B8 BA BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 17 05 25 00 24 00 00 62 65 99 9C B0 6B BD B8 BA BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D1 8F 18 05 25 00 24 00 00 65 65 99 9C B1 69 BD B8 BA BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D1 8F 19 05 25 00 24 00 00 67 65 99 9C B0 9C BD B8 B9 BD B9 HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 19 05 25 00 24 00 00 6D 65 99 9C B0 7D BD B8 B9 BD B9 http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29cwte.zip http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29cwts.zip --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: July 02, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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July AO-51 schedule up
by Andrew Glasbrenner 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

The July schedule has been posted at http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php . July 2007 AO-51 (AMSAT Echo) Schedule July 1 until July 31, subject to modification July 1 - July 9 FM Repeater, V/U Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM, NO PL Tone Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM 9k6 Digital, V/U, Telemetry Only Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM, 9k6 Telemetry July 10 - July 12 FM Repeater, L/S Uplink: 1268.700 MHz FM, NO PL Tone Downlink: 2401.200 MHz FM July 13 - July 23 FM Repeater, V/U Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM, NO PL Tone Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM 9k6 Digital, V/U, Telemetry Only Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM, 9k6 Telemetry July 24 - July 26 SSB/FM Repeater, V/U Uplink: 145.880 MHz USB Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM July 27 - July 31 FM Repeater, V/U Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM, NO PL Tone Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM 9k6 Digital, V/U, Telemetry Only Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM, 9k6 Telemetry We had several requests for normal V/U repeater mode for various operating demonstrations and grid expeditions, but we also managed to fit in a few other modes in between the requested V/U dates. We do have one special request. During the SSB/FM cross-mode repeater July 24-26, please restrict your uplink power to reasonable levels. Last time there were some issues with very strong stations causing distortion on the downlink. 73 and enjoy, Drew KO4MA AMSAT-NA VP of Operations

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Grid Square..Physical Size??
by Frank A Cahoy 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hello All, A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance... 73 Frank, K0BLT

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KD6PAG ???
by Alvaro de Leon Romo 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Where is John??? TNX :-) Some new about DM28 and 57 ??? Al XE2AT _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces en Prodigy/MSN Spaces: Crea tu propio espacio. http://spaces.live.com

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simple auto track
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hello What is the simplest auto track software/hardware combination for auto tracking a G5400? I am a non "digi" type and am looking for simple plug and play. I can use IT or SatPac32. Tracking these LOE's when using S band is difficult. -- 73 Bob W7LRD AMSAT member 28498 Seattle

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LVB Tracker & Predict
by Clive Wallis 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hi, I'm experimenting with Predict-2.2.3 , running under Ubuntu 7.04. IIRC about a year ago there was a discussion about problems controlling the LVB tracker, with Predict. Were these problems ever resolved? What is the best Predict client to drive the LVB? Any help would be grately appreciated. -- 73 Clive G3CWV Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.

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Grid Square Size
by Frank A Cahoy 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Thanks to all who provided so much info about calculating the actual size of a grid square. As mentioned in my original post...no arguments but just a friendly discussion. We can have a good subject to rehash over coffee in the morning. Thanks again to ALL..... 73 Frank, K0BLT

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FO-29 Test Operation
by Mineo Wakita 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Today, JARL executed FO-29 Test Operation. FO-29 435.795 MHz, CW Only over Japan 04:24-04:39 UTC, 01 July 2007 13:24-13:39 JST, 01 July 2007 Max ele 45.7 deg HI HI A2 E2 88 D1 8F 10 05 25 00 24 7C 5B 6F 65 99 9C B0 72 BD B3 B8 BE B9 Main Relay ON : DCM ON SRAM OFF : Packet OFF JTA ON : JTD OFF GAS ON : SAS OFF : UVC ON UVC Level 1 : PCU Mode AUTO PCU Level 3 : Battery Mode TRIC Battery Logic TRIC : Digitalker Mode OFF : UVC ACT/PAS PAS CPU RUN/RESET RUN : Spin Period 8356.0 [msec] Sun Angle 72.5 [deg] GAS-Z 60784.3 [nT] GAS-X 44607.8 [nT] Solar Panel Current 1088.2 [mA] Battery Current -20.4 [mA] Battery Voltage 16.5 [V] Battery Middle Voltage 7.5 [V] Bus Voltage 17.3 [V] Analog Tx Power 642.9 [mW] Structure Temp. 1 8.5 [C] Structure Temp. 2 12.4 [C] Structure Temp. 3 10.4 [C] Structure Temp. 4 8.1 [C] Battery Cell Temp. 10.0 [C] See for more the telemetry analysis: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29test.htm --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: July 1, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Re: AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium - Spies in the Sky
by Trevor 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

The reference to July 28th should of course have read July 20th. -------------------- AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2007 Spies in the Sky: Surveillance Satellites in War and Peace AMSAT-UK will be holding their 22nd International Space Colloquium at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 20th to Sunday 22nd July. The Colloquium keynote lecture will be given by Pat Norris, Chairman of the Royal Aeronautical Society Space Group, entitled "Spies in the Sky: Surveillance Satellites in War and Peace". Starting with Sputnik 1 and the impact of its launch 50 years ago both on the Soviets and on the West, Pat will discuss the social, economic and scientific benefits of satellites today in our daily lives some 50 years later. Pat is the author of a new book of the same name, which is due out in August. His presentation will take place on Friday and will be followed by the SSC Research Poster Exhibition and SSTL satellite ground station tours. The event is open to all. Either day passes or full packages comprising overnight accommodation and meals at the University are available. There is an online booking service for PayPal, Visa and Master Card payments. The RSGB GB4FUN van will be present throughout the event to allow visitors to work the satellites. A Beginners Workshop will be held on Friday and an RSGB bookstall will be available on Saturday morning. For further details see http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium/ AMSAT-UK publish a quarterly newsletter OSCAR News. For membership information contact the secretary Jim Heck G3WGM Tel: +44 (0)1258 453959 Email: g3wgm(a)amsat.org Join online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subscription/ ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium - Spies in the Sky
by Trevor 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2007 Spies in the Sky: Surveillance Satellites in War and Peace AMSAT-UK will be holding their 22nd International Space Colloquium at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 20th to Sunday 22nd July. The Colloquium keynote lecture will be given by Pat Norris, Chairman of the Royal Aeronautical Society Space Group, entitled "Spies in the Sky: Surveillance Satellites in War and Peace". Starting with Sputnik 1 and the impact of its launch 50 years ago both on the Soviets and on the West, Pat will discuss the social, economic and scientific benefits of satellites today in our daily lives some 50 years later. Pat is the author of a new book of the same name, which is due out in August. His presentation will take place on Friday July 28th and will be followed by the SSC Research Poster Exhibition and SSTL satellite ground station tours. The event is open to all. Either day passes or full packages comprising overnight accommodation and meals at the University are available. There is an online booking service for PayPal, Visa and Master Card payments. The RSGB GB4FUN van will be present throughout the event to allow visitors to work the satellites. A Beginners Workshop will be held on Friday and an RSGB bookstall will be available on Saturday morning. For further details see http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium/ AMSAT-UK publish a quarterly newsletter OSCAR News. For membership information contact the secretary Jim Heck G3WGM Tel: +44 (0)1258 453959 Email: g3wgm(a)amsat.org Join online at https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subscription/ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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1.2 testing
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hello Is there anyone on this list that lives within 20 miles of Renton, Wa (CN87) and can get on 1.2Ghz.? Or can monitor 1.2ghz. FM, SSB or CW. -- 73 Bob W7LRD AMSAT member 28498 Seattle

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Big Boy/Prosistel rotator
by Francisco Costa, CT1EAT 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Hi Are you using a Big Boy/Prosistel rotator + Control box B? If so I apreciate a direct reply to this email. Many thanks in advance. 73 F.Costa, CT1EAT www.qsl.net/ct1eat

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help with KPC-9612 Plus and WISP
by Dr. Jay Garlitz 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

I'd appreciate some set-up help from any KPC-9612 Plus users who also use WISP. Please e-mail me directly at drjay(a)gatordental.com Jay Garlitz, AA4FL

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Amazing image captured 2 miles from my house
by Joe Fitzgerald 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

I almost don't believe it except that I know these guys and have been in their dome. Note that Marek Kozubal is KB1NCG http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0706/atlantisISS_dantowitz.jpg -Joe KM1P

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Bulkhead Connectors
by Gary Mayfield 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Greetings, I thought I would ask the list about their experience withbulkhead coax feed-throughs. I’m running coax into my shack and thewalls are made of 2” x 6” construction. I have seen both UHF andType ‘N’ bulkhead connectors that are 10 inches long. This shouldbe long enough to get me all the way from inside to outside with alittle extra space for a grounding plate. Has anyone ever looked athow these bulkheads perform? I am hoping to run up to 1296 MHz throughone of the type ‘N’ variety. Thanks and 73,Joe _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink

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Re: FD Contacts
by John W Lee 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Yep, I think the subject has gone way out of proportion. Enough is enough. K6YK On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:50:57 -0700 "kc6uqh" <kc6uqh(a)cox.net> writes: > Just ONE GOOD HEO and all this diatribe will dissapear! > > Art, > KC6UQH >

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Data base of Keplerian Elements.
by HEYLER YESID LEDEZMA LEUDO 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi. I am Heiler Yesid Ledezma Leudo, researcher from Space Project 'Colombia on Orbit', developers of satellite 'Libertad 1'. Some body has a history of Keplerian elements form Libertad 1?. Or some body know any web page about Keplerian Elements at past days?. Thanks. Heiler Yesid Ledezma Leudo Researcher 'Colombia on Orbit'. Heiler Yesid Ledezma Leudo. Estudiante de Tecnología Electrónica -U. Distrital. --------------------------------- Llama gratis a cualquier PC del mundo. Con una excelente calidad de sonido. Yahoo! Messenger

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Re: FD Contacts
by Bill Acito W1PA 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Personally, and with all due respect, I think that even suggesting the use of any single or dual channel voice satellite during FD is fundamentally flawed, on equal status with suggesting next year FD be held on 60M alone. You can put a glass of water on a table in front of 5 people, and they know there is a reasonable expectation they will get a sip, and act accordingly to each other. Put the same glass in front of 100, and they know there is reasonable expectation they will not, and their management of the situation will change accordingly. Regardless of the "rules". I acknowledge the importance of a satellite presence during FD, but I question the benefit to AMSAT and to the rest of the satellite community by openly advertising and offering "100 people a sip from a glass of water", and letting the rest of the ham community at FD watch what ensues. Think for a moment.... what did the non-satellite ops at your site think? Does anyone really believe that a tweak or a clarification of the rules will improve the situation next year? Bill W1PA (whose last satellite FD was on AO40; patiently waiting for the next HEO bird)

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Re: FD Contacts
by Andrew Glasbrenner 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

This issue, in my opinion, has been beat to death over the last five years right here on -bb. Check the archives of May 2005 for one instance. However, one of the problems with using -bb as a forum for discussing such things is there is no efficient way to tell who is a member and who is not. In lieu of another list discussion, I did speak with a great many members in person and via email about this proposed change, and to the last each was in agreement. It was also discussed with the entire executive team and the board of directors. I think it is important to remember here that the rule change only brought the ARRL rules in line with the already existing AMSAT Field Day rules. I simply asked the League to ask their contestants to follow the same common sense rule that ours were supposed to be following for the last several events.In that sense we really didn't change anything for those on this list. In any event, I appreciate your comments Alan. I do read every message on the -bb, and I try to be as open as possible about every aspect of what AMSAT activities I am involved in. As my involvement in AMSAT has increased, I often find myself naturally in the role of representing the general membership's interest. In years past it has been expressed here on -bb that the BOD members were more involved in the discussions online. I think if I'm elected this year that is exactly what they will get. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(a)UNITED.NET> >Sent: Jun 28, 2007 8:54 AM >To: 'amsat-bb' <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts > >Drew, > >As always, Clare's words are wise. > >I certainly respect the positions of our organization's officers and BoD. >Particularly in technical areas, decisions seldom can be made by popular >vote, since the only people qualified to make the decisions are usually also >those working on it. Likewise in working with our international partners. > >However, we, like the ARRL, are a membership organization. Where possible, >changes which can be discussed in advance, should be. A simple "Hey guys, >what do you think about .....?" here would, and has, brought out a lot of >heat, but also considerable light. At worst, it gives people a chance to >vent but at least feel consulted, and at best it brings in some new >viewpoints. The law of unintended consequences can sometimes be >circumvented that way. > >Respectfully, > >Alan >WA4SCA > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: FD Contacts!
by Gary Mayfield 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

One reason is there are a group of excited youngsters in the tent who want to see the satellite thing work.> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> From: KK5DO(a)amsat.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:04:00 -0500> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!> > This thread is getting so convoluted.> > The rules are simple. You can only CLAIM on your submission ONE contact per transponder on an FM satellite. PERIOD. If you want to make 100 to show your friends how satellites work, go for it but you can only turn in one of those contacts for credit. Everyone else will thank you for helping them make theirone contact so you should be proud that you were helping out a fellow ham. It just does not benefit you. > > So, my question is... If the extra contacts do not benefit you and you are helping all these other people to beat you, why do it?> > 73...bruce> Director Contests and Awards> > > _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live Hotmail, you can personalize your inbox with your favorite color. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-us&ocid=TX…

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GO-32
by Cox 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

BB GO-32 is back & better then ever. Thx to the op team. 73 Bruce KG4YEV

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Re: FD Contacts
by Andrew Glasbrenner 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Words of wisdom from a true gentleman of AMSAT. I was going to craft some sort of reply to this tempest in a teapot about Field Day, but Clare's words leave little left to be said. If anyone is unhappy about the ARRL rule change, I apologize. I was responsible for requesting it with the contest committee as VP of Operations for AMSAT-NA, and I followed up until it was considered and approved. I thought it to be in the best interest of AMSAT, especially on a day where many are getting their first exposure to satellites. Direct your complaints to me, and not to the ARRL. I am the responsible party. The real solution to this problem is for EVERY user of satellites to join AMSAT and support P3E and Eagle so we can have wonderfully wide and high transponders to make lots of QSOs on. Had there been an AO-40, AO-13, or AO-10 operational last weekend, all of this chatter about the FM sats would be 10db below the noisefloor. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: Clare Fowler <lcfowler(a)magma.ca> >Sent: Jun 27, 2007 7:25 PM >To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts > >Yes FD is a contest but that does not mean that consideration, >fairness, and the goldren rule should be abondonded. > >The point, which is obvious to everyone, is that the single >QSO per FM channel rule was introduced in order to try and reduce >the chaos that occured with hundreds of stations trying to make multiple >QSO's with the result that practucally no one made a QSO. > >99 percent of the time ONE QSO means ONE QSO. >You have got your lolly pop. You dont need, nore can use, >five more and even if you are offered one you should >decline and let someone else have it. > >There may be the very odd time when someone calls several >CQ's and does not get a reply in which case a second QSO >my be justified. > >It just takes courtesty and some commen sense. > >If you really want to get into the contest mode get on the linear >transponder birds where each QSO counts and where experience and >operating skill really shows up. > >A lot of rule deffinition should not be required. >EVERYONE knows the intent and should operate >accordingly. > >It may be of interest to note that while in Canada we have band >plans they are not Govt. regulations. They are completly voluntary >and I have not heard of a single instance where a Canadian amateur >has intentionaly not followed them. > >Clare >VE3NPC > > > > > >. > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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GO-32 version 9.87 beta
by Mineo Wakita 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

I confirmed GO-32 came back with a mixture of BEACON and NORMAL signal. BBS version changed to the version 9.87 beta. [2007/06/28 09:56:10 UTC] BA#*21-4>F-10,)06+-7,0,, 4XTECH-11>PBLIST [06/28/07 09:56:10 UTC] <UI R>:PB: Empty. [2007-06-28 09:56:40 UTC] BA#*21-4>F-9,)06+-7,0,, 4XTECH-12>BBSTAT [06/28/07 09:57:05 UTC] <UI R>:Open:AB1C23: 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:57:05 UTC] <UI R>:B:1601156 [2007-06-28 09:57:10 UTC] BA#*21-4>F-8,)06+-7,0,, 4XTECH-11>PBLIST [06/28/07 09:57:11 UTC] <UI R>:PB: Empty. [2007-06-28 09:57:40 UTC] CA#*21-4>F-7,)06+-7,0,, 4XTECH-12>BBSTAT [06/28/07 09:58:05 UTC] <UI R>:Open:AB1C23: 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:05 UTC] <UI R>:B:1601323 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:05 UTC] <UI R>: UTC: Thu Jun 28 09:58:01 2007 | Gurwin Techsat1B (V9.87) 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:05 UTC] <UI R>:---- 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:06 UTC] <UI R>: Gurwin Techsat1B's BBS is active (version 9.87 beta) ,ASRI greets you. 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:06 UTC] <UI R>: 2 Users/8 Broadcasts , Uplink freq:145.890,145.850,145.930, 1269.800, 1269.900 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:06 UTC] <UI R>:----- 4XTECH-12>STATUS [06/28/07 09:58:06 UTC] <UI R>: [2007-06-28 09:58:10 UTC] CA#*21-4>F-6,)06+-7,0,, 4XTECH-11>PBLIST [06/28/07 09:58:12 UTC] <UI R>:PB: Empty. [2007-06-28 09:58:40 UTC] CA#*21-4>F-5,)06+-7,0,, --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: June 28, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Re: FD Contacts!
by Bruce 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

This thread is getting so convoluted. The rules are simple. You can only CLAIM on your submission ONE contact per transponder on an FM satellite. PERIOD. If you want to make 100 to show your friends how satellites work, go for it but you can only turn in one of those contacts for credit. Everyone else will thank you for helping them make theirone contact so you should be proud that you were helping out a fellow ham. It just does not benefit you. So, my question is... If the extra contacts do not benefit you and you are helping all these other people to beat you, why do it? 73...bruce Director Contests and Awards

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Re: FD Contacts!
by George Henry 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea(a)pacbell.net> To: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net>; "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! > Well, that may be, but I read the Field Day rules, and > as we all know, Field Day is NOT a "contest". > If other rules override the Field Day rules, it should > be widely published, or mentioned in the Field Day > rules, which it aint. Yes, it is... Field Day rule 9.2: 9.2. See "General Rules for All ARRL Contests," "General Rules for All ARRL Contests on Bands Below 30 MHz," and "General Rules for All ARRL Contests on Bands Above 50 MHz" for additional rules (www.arrl.org/contests/forms ) that may cover situations not covered in these Field Day rules. > I agree that making more than one contact violates the > *spirit* of the rules, but NOT the written Field Day > rules. > Did you read THIS year's Field Day rules? It doesn't get more explicit than this: 7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite.

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Nova
by David - M0ZLB 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi All, This is probably a dumb question but I am evaluating NOVA and wonder why none of the satellites I am interested in seem to be in the Nova database> I found ISS but where is AO-51, SO-50 and VO-52 for a start? Thanks in advance. David M0ZLB/KG4ZLB

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Re: FD Contacts
by Clare Fowler 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Yes FD is a contest but that does not mean that consideration, fairness, and the goldren rule should be abondonded. The point, which is obvious to everyone, is that the single QSO per FM channel rule was introduced in order to try and reduce the chaos that occured with hundreds of stations trying to make multiple QSO's with the result that practucally no one made a QSO. 99 percent of the time ONE QSO means ONE QSO. You have got your lolly pop. You dont need, nore can use, five more and even if you are offered one you should decline and let someone else have it. There may be the very odd time when someone calls several CQ's and does not get a reply in which case a second QSO my be justified. It just takes courtesty and some commen sense. If you really want to get into the contest mode get on the linear transponder birds where each QSO counts and where experience and operating skill really shows up. A lot of rule deffinition should not be required. EVERYONE knows the intent and should operate accordingly. It may be of interest to note that while in Canada we have band plans they are not Govt. regulations. They are completly voluntary and I have not heard of a single instance where a Canadian amateur has intentionaly not followed them. Clare VE3NPC .

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Re: FD Contacts!
by Reicher, James 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

The rule reads "7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite" The absolute strict interpretation of this rule would mean that once you make a single contact on an FM bird, you turn off the radio and walk away. If you don't, you'll get your hands slapped and lose your rubber ducky. However, many people, probably most, interpreted the rule to mean that one may claim no more than one completed QSO for credit. This interpretation would not mean that one could not make more, it just means only one would be granted credit - the same as AMSAT Field Day rules did in past years. AMSAT FD's rule never prohibited making more contacts but credit was given for only one. Should there be a more restrictive rule, perhaps instituting a penalty for making more than one QSO? How would it be enforced? You'd have a big fight on your hands. My suggestion is: lighten up. The real problem was the guy playing traffic cop, tying up the bird with unnecessary, malicious and unidentified transmissions, not the gentleman (and I mean that in the best sense of the word) in Arizona working them like a seasoned contester. 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:04 -0500 From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <004401c7b86e$86e64620$0500a8c0@parents> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am one of the people who asked the ARRL to implement the "one contact per FM satellite" rule, so I am more than a little PO'd to see it so blatantly ignored, and even more so, to see people in this forum, the very people who should most support the rule, actually DEFENDING the violator!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Angelo Glorioso To: George Henry ; amsat bb Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! Better yet! How many QSO's did the Satellite police prevent because of his BROADCAST STATEMENTS????? 73 de Angelo

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FD CONTACTS
by Mr Jeff Ross 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Well, did anyone have any fun, even with the sat police? I say shove the one contact rule, get in if you can. and shove the the sat police. Looks like he had all the fun. I should of listened there on the fm, no one was on 146520 simplex.

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Re: FD Contacts!
by sco＠mindspring.com 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

I don't see the problem. If some clubs do not wish to follow the rules ... only one QSO per FM satellite on FD. Then publish a list in QST of those clubs who refused to follow the FD rules. Then place that Club on a one year probation list. If they violate the rules on the next year's FD then ban them from the following year's FD reporting in QST. We are supposed to self police ourselves. Les W4SCO -----Original Message----- >From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(a)hrblock.com> >Sent: Jun 27, 2007 10:00 AM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! > >The rule reads "7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on >any single channel FM satellite" > >The absolute strict interpretation of this rule would mean that once you >make a single contact on an FM bird, you turn off the radio and walk >away. If you don't, you'll get your hands slapped and lose your rubber >ducky. > >However, many people, probably most, interpreted the rule to mean that >one may claim no more than one completed QSO for credit. This >interpretation would not mean that one could not make more, it just >means only one would be granted credit - the same as AMSAT Field Day >rules did in past years. AMSAT FD's rule never prohibited making more >contacts but credit was given for only one. > >Should there be a more restrictive rule, perhaps instituting a penalty >for making more than one QSO? How would it be enforced? You'd have a >big fight on your hands. > >My suggestion is: lighten up. The real problem was the guy playing >traffic cop, tying up the bird with unnecessary, malicious and >unidentified transmissions, not the gentleman (and I mean that in the >best sense of the word) in Arizona working them like a seasoned >contester. > > >73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO > >Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear >bright until you hear them speak. > > >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:04 -0500 >From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! >To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >Message-ID: <004401c7b86e$86e64620$0500a8c0@parents> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I am one of the people who asked the ARRL to implement the "one contact >per FM satellite" rule, so I am more than a little PO'd to see it so >blatantly ignored, and even more so, to see people in this forum, the >very people who should most support the rule, actually DEFENDING the >violator!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Angelo Glorioso > To: George Henry ; amsat bb > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:48 PM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! > > > > Better yet! How many QSO's did the Satellite police prevent because >of his > BROADCAST STATEMENTS????? > > > 73 de Angelo > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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KC0TGY QSLs
by Alvaro de Leon Romo 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hi guys Bill KC0TGY was yesterday in FN77-87 intersection and several QSOs were made , it was his fiirst time in AO27 end he loved his powerful signal THANKS AO27 TEAM !!!!! Bill will try to be in FN85 from 29th to 2nd next month so keep in touch. He sent me an email and he will back to his home in MO until Septemeber so will answer all QSLs until he back, he apologize for not answer before ...... GL all Al XE2AT _________________________________________________________________ Live Search en Prodigy/MSN. Todo lo que buscas ahora más rapido http://live.com

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Re: FD Contacts!
by n5uxt＠hotmail.com 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

I fail to see were two wrongs make a right. The fact is that the sat police making his statement over and over on the bird causing QRM when at least One new station makes a first time contact just blows my mind. The type of broadcast statements do no good on field day. If anything the big gun that was giving out contact was helping the new/amatuer sat operators make a contact for the points. This is the same picture but a different view. It is all good. 73 de Angelo -----Original Message----- From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: 6/26/2007 11:12 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! I am one of the people who asked the ARRL to implement the "one contact per FM satellite" rule, so I am more than a little PO'd to see it so blatantly ignored, and even more so, to see people in this forum, the very people who should most support the rule, actually DEFENDING the violator!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Angelo Glorioso To: George Henry ; amsat bb Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! Better yet! How many QS [truncated by sender]

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V/S mode AO-51
by Fernandez Montaña, Juan Antonio 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Speaking about the shift downlink frequency, I receive with a DB6NT downconverter and a PCR1000 with the AFC enabled. Working with this set up it does not mind if there is this problem. The signals were 5-7 with fading, as usual, with my 0.7 meters offset dish and 4+1/4 turns helix. The pass was over 20 degrees. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ 73s =============================================================== Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Los datos incluidos en el presente correo son confidenciales y sometidos a secreto profesional, especialmente en lo que respecta a los datos personales, se prohibe divulgarlos, en virtud de las leyes vigentes. Si usted no lo es y lo ha recibido por error o tiene conocimiento del mismo por cualquier motivo, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por este medio y proceda a destruirlo o borrarlo, y que en todo caso se abstenga de utilizar, reproducir, alterar, archivar o comunicar a terceros el presente mensaje y ficheros anexos, todo ello bajo pena de incurrir en responsabilidades legales. Cualquier idea contenida en este correo es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente el criterio de Iberdrola. El emisor no garantiza la integridad, rapidez o seguridad del presente correo, ni se responsabiliza de posibles perjuicios derivados de la captura, incorporaciones de virus o cualesquiera otras manipulaciones efectuadas por terceros. This message is intended for the exclusive attention of the address(es) indicated. Any information contained herein is strictly confidential and privileged, especially as regards personal data, which must not be disclosed, in accordance with legislation currently in force. If you are not the intended recipient and have received it by mistake or learn about it in any other way, please notify us by return e-mail and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, alteration, filing or sending of this message and/or any attached files to third parties may lead to legal proceedings being taken. Any opinion expressed herein is solely that of the author(s) and does not necessarily represent the opinion of Iberdrola. The sender does not guarantee the integrity, speed or safety of this message, not accept responsibility for any possible damage arising from the interception, incorporation of virus or any other manipulation carried out by third parties. ===============================================================

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Fwd: Re: Re: FD Contacts!
by Jim Jerzycke 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Note: forwarded message attached.

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Re: FD Contacts!
by Angelo Glorioso 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Better yet! How many QSO's did the Satellite police prevent because of his BROADCAST STATEMENTS????? 73 de Angelo --------------------------------------------------------- If you don't ask, you will never know!! > From: ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:20:31 -0500> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!> > Actually, it's implicit in rule 7.2 of the "ARRL General Rules for All > Contests":> "7.2. Score reduction may be made for taking credit for unconfirmed QSOs or > multipliers, duplicate contacts or other scoring discrepancies."> > (operative phrase being "scoring discrepancies")> > At the very least, the station handing out contacts violated the intent of > the "one contact" rule. Moreover, for every one contact he "handed out", > TWO other stations could have made their contacts and gotten off the bird. > He actually DECREASED the QSO rate....> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea(a)pacbell.net>> To: "George Henry" <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net>; <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:50 PM> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!> > > > The rules say nothing about more than one contact> > voiding the others, or about making a contact with> > someone who has already made more than one.> > All you get is the 100 points; more contacts on an FM> > bird get you nothing but the wrath of everyone who> > hears you.> > Jim KQ6EA> >> > --- George Henry <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> >From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(a)hrblock.com>> >> >Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM> >> >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!> >> >> >> >I managed my one contact per FM bird also and then> >> concentrated on AO-7> >> >and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George, but> >> we did pretty well.> >> >> >> >I found the FM birds to be much more orderly than> >> in years past. I> >> >thought that the one station who was handing out> >> quick contacts to the> >> >others worked very well.> >>> >> [snip]> >>> >>> >> I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone> >> "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately be> >> tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid Q's> >> are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If that> >> was someone's one and only satellite contact, there> >> goes their 100-point bonus!> >>> >>> >> George, KA3HSW> > _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink

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SO-50 & road trip
by John Mock KD6PAG 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

I'll traveling for the rest of this week, covering a number of (at least) uncommon grid squares in NV, northern AZ & NM, and southern UT & CO. I've no specific plans other than to activate lots of grid squares (perhaps on grid square boundaries if timing permits). All are DM grid, possibilities include DM07-08,16-18,25-27,35-37,46-48,56-58, 66-67 and DM76-77. I was disappointed not to have AO-51, but noted that SO-50 should be up at about the same times that AO-51 is. It's a little harder to work hand-held unless there are other people talking. So, come on folks, give me a call and make lots of noise if SO-50 is otherwise quiet, so everyone can find it easier. Of course, i'll also work AO-27 whenever i can. As before, SASE is not necessary, as i'll send cards to all that i log, but do, please, work me near home (CM88 and often CM87) if i don't already have your grid square. I hope to hear from lots of you. 73's and good luck! -- KD6PAG (Networking Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer) [Note: If i'm in your address book, please replace 'qsl.net' with 'amsat.org'.]

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Re: SO-50 & road trip
by John W Lee 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hey, OK JOhn ! I need DM57 if you get there. Will be checking SO-50 and AO-27 when I can. Also need DM28 but don't think you're going there. 73, John, K6YK On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:45:16 -0700 John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag(a)amsat.org> writes: > I'll traveling for the rest of this week, covering a number of (at > least)

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slightly OT: NHC Director chastized for wanting NOAA to replace ailing satellite
by Nate Duehr 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Asking to replace failing on-orbit weather observation hardware leads to word from your boss that "the White House is pissed off" these days, I guess. That's a direct quote, don't whine at me about the language. ------ Candid storm chief gets a lashing http://www.miamiherald.com/569/story/141782.html -- Nate Duehr nate(a)natetech.com

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Field Day Photos
by John Price 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Anyone who would like to see some pictures from our field day operation can click on this link or copy and paste it to your address bar if it does not open. Enjoy 73's << John http://picasaweb.google.com/n4qwf1/FieldDay2007 -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52 Internet N4QWF(a)AMSAT.ORG Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on 51 #13 LON -79.25 LAT 37.45 Grid FM07 >From the Foothills of the Blueridge

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Study of 2.4 GHz License Exempt (Part-15) Activity in the UK
by Trevor 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

A License Exempt (Part-15) Spectrum Measurement Study was recently carried out for the UK Regulator Ofcom involving 20 sites across England. The study appears to show comparitively little usage of 2.4 GHz (page 30 of the summary). This is almost certainly down to the locations chosen for monitoring and the short range (< 1000 feet) of license exempt consumer products. Had the monitoring stations been been sited in a typically urban household, built at 20 homes to the acre, I'm sure they'd have picked up plenty of activity. The results of the study can be seen at Autonomous Interference Monitoring System- Phase II & Measurement of LE Usage http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/technology/overview/state_use/aims2/ Report Summary http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/technology/overview/state_use/aims2/le_sum… AMSAT-UK Colloquium http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium 73 Trevor M5AKA --------------- Daily Amateur Radio RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email your news items to: editor at southgatearc.org News On Your Website: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/index.htm News On Your PC: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/newsreader.htm Upload Your News: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news.htm --------------- ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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AMSAT Awards
by Bruce 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Awards this week are: We would like to welcome the following to the satellite community. They have made their first satellite contact and are now members of the AMSAT Satellite Communicators Club. David Palmgren, N8DP AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Robert Palmer Jr, KB2YCC, #144 South Africa AMSAT Communication Achievement Award Steven Raas, N2JDQ, #US109 To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or http://www.amsatnet.com Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on W0KIE Intelsat Americas, T1, 6.8Mhz Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com

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M2 antenna APB
by Stargate 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hi again all, Well, my All Points Bulletin for a used M2 436CP42UG and 2MCP22 doesn't look like it's going to pan out. Next question....Where would be the best price top purchase these? I have looked at Burghardt and a few others but just want to make sure I haven't overlooked a good price somewhere. Any help appreciated, RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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Re: FD Contacts!
by George Henry 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

-----Original Message----- >From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(a)hrblock.com> >Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts! > >I managed my one contact per FM bird also and then concentrated on AO-7 >and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George, but we did pretty well. > >I found the FM birds to be much more orderly than in years past. I >thought that the one station who was handing out quick contacts to the >others worked very well. [snip] I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately be tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid Q's are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If that was someone's one and only satellite contact, there goes their 100-point bonus! George, KA3HSW

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I miss AO40
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hello AO-51 sounds great on S Band. Damn do I miss AO-40 (sob sob)! -- 73 Bob W7LRD AMSAT member 28498 Seattle

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Second Call for Papers - 2007 AMSAT Space Symposium
by Kevin J. Smith 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

2007 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting - Call for papers This is the second call for papers for the 2007 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting to be held October 25-28, 2007 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite program. An emphasis for this year is an educational outreach to middle and high school students. In particular, papers on the following topics are solicited: Students & Education, ARISS, AO-51, P3E, Eagle and other satellite-related topics. We request a one-page abstract as soon as possible. Camera ready copy on paper or in electronic form will be due by September 1, 2007 for inclusion in the printed symposium proceedings. Papers received after this date will not be included in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to: Daniel Schultz N8FGV by e-mail to: n8fgv(a)amsat.org

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Re: Can't download keps in Nova
by Joseph Trombino Jr 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Just for fun I re-entered my call sign and password into Nova for Space-track.org and now I can download the keps all OK. My callsign and password were already in Nova but for some reason they wouldn't work.....I had to re-enter them into Nova and now the bloody program will download the keps....ain't computers and software great??? (grin) OK...no more dumb questions for a while. 73, Joe W2KJ

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Can't download keps in Nova
by Joseph Trombino Jr 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Haven't used Nova in several months and saw the alerts on the amsat BB about problems caused by Celestrak. I brought up Nova and used Space-Track to try and download via the Internet. It doesn't appear that Nova is not connecting to Space-Track via the Internet...I get a dialog box that says "downloading" but only receive 618 bytes or such and then the Nova program locks up. Looks like something is missing or messed up in Nova 2.2b. I just downloaded Satscape from the Amsat web page and tried downloading keps and it appeared to work perfectly. Something is wrong with Nova and I can't figure it out...any ideas out there that might help me in finding the problem??? 73, Joe W2KJ

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IC-970 for sale
by Eddy GORA 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

If anyone interested I still have IC-970 for sale. Best regards, Edi, YO3HCV No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM

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FS: TrakBox
by Francisco Costa, CT1EAT 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Dear AMSAT friends My TrakBox is for sale. Details: * current installed version is 3.40e The sale include: * DC cable * rotor cable (Yaesu G-5xxx series) plus: * TrakBox-II upgrade kit * KD6IRE upgrade kit * CD with manuals, mods, photos, etc. I did both upgrades (one at the time), but for some reason I can't remember, I returned to original configuration. The box was made by me and it has no labels. It has some minor scrachs and dents however. Price: 250 Euro, including shipping to anywhere in the world via registered airmail. Payment methods: Euro countries buyers: Bank money transfer only! Elsewhere: Western Union or PayPal. Photos: please visit http://ct1eatsale.no.sapo.pt/ Thanks for your attention. See you on P3E or Eagle. 73 F.Costa, CT1EAT www.qsl.net/ct1eat

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Beginner question - Tracking software / hardware.
by Wayne Heil 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hi, I am just getting started in satellites. I have a Yaesu G-5400B. What interface would be good to use to interface the G-5400B to my computer for automatic tracking? I have a new Dell with Microsoft Vista. What software to use with the tracker? "73, Wayne, KB6OQj wjheil(a)gmail.com

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