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software
by Nick Pugh 03 May '07

03 May '07

I am looking for shareware that will remember the record and volume setting on the mixer panel. thanks nick

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Cape-1 & mix w help?
by john heath 03 May '07

03 May '07

Hi guys, Trying to copy Cape-1 without any sucess Do I have the right settings in Mix-W I picked VHF 9600baud G3RUH (set sample rate 22050Hz) thanks in advance 73 John G7HIA

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Re: IC-910H Question
by Jeff Davis, KE9V 03 May '07

03 May '07

Thanks to all for the answer on the 910H question. 73, Jeff KE9V

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armstrong antenna pointing
by fish7days 03 May '07

03 May '07

I agree, using Pocket Sat+ is pretty easy. I use it on a Clie which is Palm based and it is great. Tie the PDA to your wrist with a Velcro band or strap a little PDA holder to the Arrow boom with Velcro and it's out of the way. If you're crafty strap both the PDA and a digital recorder to the boom and everything is out of the way. Now you have one hand for Armstrong and one for Doppler. Bigfatttail also has a forum for help and if you really need serious support, the author will respond. Pretty cool software! Even a night mode that turns the background red ! Andre N1AJV EL96

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Re: armstrong antenna pointing
by Andrew Glasbrenner 03 May '07

03 May '07

Before the pass I use a compass or landmarks to sort of draw an imaginary arc of the satellite path. Once you acquire the signal, simply keep it peaked up by ear, including twisting the arrow to match polarity. This twist also does wonders on the FM satellite uplinks, and is reason enough to use full duplex (among a host of other benefits). It certainly gets easier with time and practice. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: Eric Fort <eric.fort(a)gmail.com> >Sent: May 2, 2007 4:51 PM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] armstrong antenna pointing > >When one is using an arrow antenna and an armstrong rotator to work one of >the birds, how does one have any idea where to have the antenna pointed when >and what movements to make to keep it pointed? It's a big sky up there. > >Eric >KG6KQT >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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AO-51 field day mode L question
by John Price 03 May '07

03 May '07

I read the article in the journal concerning field 2007. I understand that on the FM satellites only one contact is allowed for credit. Last year when AO-51 was configured for the QRP operation on the second transponder we were allowed two contacts via AO-51. Since the decision has been made to use Mode-L on this second transponder why not allow two contacts again this year? I see no reason for field day stations to make the effort on Mode-L if they can get there one credit on mode V/u. I guess there is a valid reason for the Mode-L on field day. I would guess it would be to motivate stations to use it. Just my thoughts for your consideration. 73's << John -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,FO-29,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52 Internet N4QWF(a)AMSAT.ORG Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on 51 #13 LON -79.25 LAT 37.45 Grid FM07 >From the Foothills of the Blueridge

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910H Question
by Jeff Davis 03 May '07

03 May '07

Question for IC-910H owners ... if the 1.2 Ghz module is installed in the 910H does that band auto-track with the other band selected? Thanks. Jeff, KE9V

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Field Day logging program
by Dan 02 May '07

02 May '07

What are the better Field Day logging programs being used? I know most of the regular logging programs ahs filed day in them, but are there any good stand alone Field Day programs? Our local cub has been using some old DOS program and I would like to update that to a newer easier to use program. Thank you for your help. Dan N8DZM #33913

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armstrong antenna pointing
by Eric Fort 02 May '07

02 May '07

When one is using an arrow antenna and an armstrong rotator to work one of the birds, how does one have any idea where to have the antenna pointed when and what movements to make to keep it pointed? It's a big sky up there. Eric KG6KQT

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Re: Field Day logging program
by Dave 02 May '07

02 May '07

Another program used by many is the N1MM program. I have used this with several different clubs over the years. Since it is a free program, the price cannot be beat. Support for the program is excellant. I wrote to 6 or 7 logging programs asking for support for the Colorado QSO Party in July. N1MM was the first to respond and to make the update availble to support the event. 73, Dave N0EOP -----Original Message----- >From: Garie Halstead K8KFJ <khyberpass65(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: May 2, 2007 5:13 PM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day logging program > >Jim Shorney <jshorney(a)inebraska.com> wrote: > > > LARC has been using the N3FJP program with good > > results. It has a fair amount of nice features, > > and great support from the author. > > I have to echo Jim's comments regarding the N3FJP software. > We've used it at KARC for years at FD and it plays really well. > > 73, Gary -K8KFJ- > West Virginia > > > > >--------------------------------- >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Recording of AO-51 02/May/07 02:30 UTC Pass over U.S.
by Stephen Genusa 02 May '07

02 May '07

I finally did something I wanted to do since I was a kid. I worked my first pass of a satellite, AO-51 in this case. I made one big mistake and did not record the pass. If anyone has this pass on tape could you please email it to me? I would be very grateful if you can send me a copy. I learned a ton by finally doing it, most of all, the necessity of having a recorder. Thank you, Stephen WD5EAE http://www.wd5eae.org

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Journals
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 02 May '07

02 May '07

One of our members would like to donate the following Journals: 1999 Nov/Dec 2000 Sep-Dec 2001 - all 2002-all 2003-all 2004-all 2005-all 2006-all If you are interested, please call me ( 301-589-6062) and I will give you the contact information. 73- Martha-AMSAT Manager

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Recording of AO-51 02/May/07 02:30 UTC Pass over Southern US
by Stephen Genusa 02 May '07

02 May '07

I finally did something I wanted to do since I was a kid. I worked my first pass of a satellite, AO-51 in this case. I made one big mistake and did not record the pass. If anyone has this pass on tape could you please email it to me? I would be very grateful if you can send me a copy. I learned a ton by finally doing it, most of all, the necessity of having a recorder. Thank you, Stephen WD5EAE http://www.wd5eae.org

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Fw: Returned mail: User unknown
by Roger Kolakowski 02 May '07

02 May '07

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <MAILER-DAEMON(a)aol.com> To: <RogerKola(a)aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:41 AM Subject: Returned mail: User unknown > The original message was received at Wed, 2 May 2007 00:41:28 -0400 (EDT) > from root@localhost > > > *** ATTENTION *** > > Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its > delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section > labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". > > The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section > labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". > > The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could > not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a > general translation for other e-mail servers. > > Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail > administrator or Postmaster at that destination. > > --AOL Postmaster > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to mail.aceweb.net.: > >>> RCPT To:<Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> > <<< 550 5.1.1 <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> is not a valid mailbox > 550 <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com>... User unknown > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Final-Recipient: RFC822; Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.aceweb.net > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com> is not a valid mailbox > Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 00:41:33 -0400 (EDT) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Received: from RogerKola(a)aol.com > by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id g.bf7.157b309a (48350); > Wed, 2 May 2007 00:41:28 -0400 (EDT) > Return-Path: <rogerkola(a)aol.com> > Received: from Tanguray (pool-71-243-8-223.bos.east.verizon.net [71.243.8.223]) by ciaaol-m06.mx.aol.com (v115.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLM066-bcde46381677195; Wed, 02 May 2007 00:41:28 -0400 > Message-ID: <005801c78c6c$02b32540$0200a8c0@Tanguray> > From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola(a)aol.com> > To: <Patrick.McGrane(a)aceweb.com>, <sarex(a)AMSAT.Org> > References: <e17501e6dc8546f38eeafad700e7d93f.N2OEQ(a)aceweb.com> > Subject: Re: [sarex] ISS amateur radio Mode > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 00:43:10 -0300 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 > X-AOL-IP: 71.243.8.223 > X-Spam-Flag: NO >

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Satellite telemetry data
by Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR 01 May '07

01 May '07

The findu is a good site for packet satellite telemetry data. Search is possible for any satellite. Libertad http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=5k3l&start=300&length=288&time=1 Raft http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=raft&start=48&length=48&time=1 73 Rob PE1ITR http://www.pe1itr.com

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Re: The need for telemetry data -or what happened to FO-29-
by Robert Bruninga 01 May '07

01 May '07

> ...One key component of failure analysis is the > availability of data, especially telemetry. > > My question is, can the satellite user community at > large come up with a system that allows the routine > capturing of satellite telemetry? Is there a > role that AMSAT can play? What would it take? All of the APRS satellites (PCSAT-1, PCSAT2, ANDE and RAFT) use AX.25 and beacon their telemetry around the world. Any telemetry packets, heard by any station that is on the internet, feeds the packets live into the global APRS internet. Not only does this make it available to anyone at any time, but the data is also archived and is available in graphical form over any date period. For example, Simple URL's can be constructed to access and plot any of the telemetry parameters. See this WEB page: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/andeTemps.html And look at the source code. You will see that each plot is simply a URL constructed to access the correct period of data, and to select the range of values and the labels. This way, this data can be incorporated into any application. Thanks to the work fof K4HG, Steve Dimese and the FINDU system. This is all hands-off, fully automated, and routine. Not only does it work for the satellites, but it can also plot all of this same data for ANY KPC-3+ TNC that is sending periodic telemetry packets anywhere in the world on any APRS frequency. For example, this simple URL will plot the telemetry for ANY KPC-3+ TNC on the air. This one is my local digipeater: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/tele2.cgi?call=wb4apr-1&last=240 Just change the ULR callsign to your TNC's callsign (if it is tramnsmitting its 5 channel telemetry beacons on any APRS frequency) and you will see it show up here. This is a fantastic system for quick-and-dirty experiments, since the global collection and plotting is already done. Bob, WB4APR

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CP-4 telemetry (May 01, 2007)
by Mike Rupprecht 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hi, last pass over europe I catched 2 frames at 21:58:00 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 D0 28 0D 30 03 91 02 07 04 5E A4 D8 E9 C0 92 03 00 03 79 21 > C3 D0 CE C1 8E 01 00 09 A2 2F C3 D0 BD 93 03 03 03 87 4B EC 41 > E1 C4 8F 00 00 03 6E 92 F3 F6 C0 00 05 B8 A0 B8 B8 A6 10 0F 61 > 0B 03 0A 01 72 84 84 B9 BA 83 C7 67 F5 B9 FF 90 EB 83 C7 68 81 > F6 CC FF E3 EC 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 69 01 22 2B 2B 5C C4 ..( 0.....^........y........./........K.......n...........__ . .r......g.......h.........&&.i."++\. ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 22:03:00 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 D2 28 0D 34 02 B3 02 04 03 52 A6 92 A3 C0 CB 42 56 02 72 21 > C2 85 7D C2 C2 0A 08 08 91 24 6C 73 BE B1 03 03 03 7A 48 F9 41 > EE C5 A3 00 00 03 60 9D EB EF C0 00 05 B8 A3 B8 B9 BE 11 0F 61 > 0C 0A 03 02 79 8B 8A BA BA 83 C7 6A F3 FF FF 8E EB 8B C7 6A 81 > F4 FA FF E7 EC 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 62 01 25 28 2A 5C BF ..( 4.....R.....BV.r..}.. ...$ls.....zH.......`...........__ ..y......j.......j.........f&.b.%(*\. That means for the last record: CAPE Telemetry *** Seq No: 10450 [ RTC: 13:52:02 ] ####################################################### ------ JP5 SIDE PANEL -Y AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,21 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 7,35 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 82,00 magnetometer B : 166,00 internal Temp : -15,36 °C external Temp : -18,49 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ JP6 SIDE PANEL -X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,78 V Solar Panel Curr : 121,32 mA Peak Power Track : 158,09 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 114,00 magnetometer B : 194,00 internal Temp : -12,72 °C external Temp : -10,95 °C FPP 3V : 3,04 V ------ JP7 SIDE PANEL +Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,56 V Solar Panel Curr : 1,84 mA Peak Power Track : 14,71 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 14,71 mA Magnetometer A : 145,00 magnetometer B : 36,00 internal Temp : -6,80 °C external Temp : -8,58 °C FPP 3V : 2,98 V ------ JP8 SIDE PANEL +X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,16 V Solar Panel Curr : 5,51 mA Peak Power Track : 5,51 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 122,00 magnetometer B : 72,00 internal Temp : -30,53 °C external Temp : -29,25 °C FPP 3V : 3,09 V ------ JP9 SIDE PANEL -Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 3,84 V Solar Panel Curr : 0,00 mA Peak Power Track : 0,00 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 96,00 magnetometer B : 157,00 internal Temp : -28,89 °C external Temp : -29,37 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ CDH DAQ ---------------------- RF Amp A Curr : 0,00 mA RF Amp B Curr : 45,96 mA CDH RegPow 3V : 2,89 V RF Amp Temp : -18,49 °C CommA RegPow 3V : 2,89 V CommB RegPow 3V : 2,90 V VSUM : 4,47 V ------ POWER -------------------- CDH Curr : 31,25 mA SP A Curr : 27,57 mA SP B Curr : 22,06 mA Comm A Curr : 5,51 mA Comm B Curr : 5,51 mA Payload Curr : 18,38 mA CDH Power Temp : -10,03 °C Comm A Pow Temp : -13,97 °C Comm B Pow Temp : -13,76 °C 3V Side Panel A : 2,92 V 3V Side Panel B : 2,92 V ------ BATTERY A ---------------- Protection Byte : 10000011 Status Byte : 11000111 Voltage : 4,14 V Temperature : -13,00 °C Current : -5,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1308,50 mAh ------ BATTERY B ---------------- Protection Byte : 10001011 Status Byte : 11000111 voltage : 4,14 V Temperature : -12,00 °C Current : -5,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1222,25 mAh ------ CDH ---------------------- CDH Status Byte : 00000011 CDH Current State : 00000001 CDH Reset Count : 0,00 ------ COMM --------------------- Statusbyte : 01100110 CC1000 Cal Reg : 38,00 CC1000 Pow Reg : 8,00 CC1000 max RSSI : 98,00 ------ PAYLOAD ----------------- Statusbyte : 1,00 RTC Temp : -13,00 °C Face Temp : -10,00 °C URC Temp : -8,00 V URC Voltage : 4,43 V 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad-1 telemetry
by Mike Rupprecht 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hi, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:51 UTC 20070501095120: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501095120: A00O77C11I66P29R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:198AA 11:33 UTC 20070501113317: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501113317: A00O55C88I44P50R00_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:199AA 20070501113319: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501113319: A00O55C88I44P50R00_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:199AA 20070501113322: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501113322: A00O55C88I44P50R00_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:199AA 20070501113324: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501113324: A00O55C88I44P50R00_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:199AA 20070501113326: fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: 20070501113326: A00O55C88I44P50R00_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:199AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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CP-4 telemetry May 01, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hi, 20:23:00 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 A0 28 0C 0C 1A CB 02 07 03 56 A5 93 A2 C0 9C 02 00 02 7C 21 > BD 7D 7B C2 C8 4B 47 09 AD 25 9E A2 BE 9C 03 03 03 8B 48 F7 41 > EA C5 98 00 00 03 6F 98 E0 E3 C0 00 05 B8 A2 B8 B8 AD 10 11 61 > 0C 0B 03 01 77 89 88 B9 BA 83 C7 6B F3 2D 00 58 EB 83 C7 6B 81 > F4 26 00 4A ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 63 01 25 29 2B 5C 9A CP4 Telemetry Decoder (c) Mike Rupprecht, DK3WN CAPE Telemetry *** Seq No: 10400 [ RTC: 12:12:26 ] ####################################################### ------ JP5 SIDE PANEL -Y AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,78 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 12,87 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 86,00 magnetometer B : 165,00 internal Temp : -15,56 °C external Temp : -18,32 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ JP6 SIDE PANEL -X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 3,67 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 0,00 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 124,00 magnetometer B : 189,00 internal Temp : -10,95 °C external Temp : -10,49 °C FPP 3V : 3,04 V ------ JP7 SIDE PANEL +Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,71 V Solar Panel Curr : 137,87 mA Peak Power Track : 130,51 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 16,54 mA Magnetometer A : 173,00 magnetometer B : 37,00 internal Temp : -17,61 °C external Temp : -18,32 °C FPP 3V : 2,98 V ------ JP8 SIDE PANEL +X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 3,67 V Solar Panel Curr : 5,51 mA Peak Power Track : 5,51 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 139,00 magnetometer B : 72,00 internal Temp : -30,30 °C external Temp : -28,77 °C FPP 3V : 3,09 V ------ JP9 SIDE PANEL -Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 3,58 V Solar Panel Curr : 0,00 mA Peak Power Track : 0,00 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 111,00 magnetometer B : 152,00 internal Temp : -27,52 °C external Temp : -27,90 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ CDH DAQ ---------------------- RF Amp A Curr : 0,00 mA RF Amp B Curr : 45,96 mA CDH RegPow 3V : 2,89 V RF Amp Temp : -18,32 °C CommA RegPow 3V : 2,89 V CommB RegPow 3V : 2,89 V VSUM : 4,07 V ------ POWER -------------------- CDH Curr : 29,41 mA SP A Curr : 31,25 mA SP B Curr : 22,06 mA Comm A Curr : 20,22 mA Comm B Curr : 5,51 mA Payload Curr : 9,19 mA CDH Power Temp : -9,56 °C Comm A Pow Temp : -13,56 °C Comm B Pow Temp : -13,35 °C 3V Side Panel A : 2,90 V 3V Side Panel B : 2,92 V ------ BATTERY A ---------------- Protection Byte : 10000011 Status Byte : 11000111 Voltage : 4,18 V Temperature : -13,00 °C Current : 25,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1322,00 mAh ------ BATTERY B ---------------- Protection Byte : 10000011 Status Byte : 11000111 voltage : 4,18 V Temperature : -12,00 °C Current : 20,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1197,50 mAh ------ CDH ---------------------- CDH Status Byte : 00000011 CDH Current State : 00000001 CDH Reset Count : 0,00 ------ COMM --------------------- Statusbyte : 01100110 CC1000 Cal Reg : 38,00 CC1000 Pow Reg : 8,00 CC1000 max RSSI : 99,00 ------ PAYLOAD ----------------- Statusbyte : 1,00 RTC Temp : -13,00 °C Face Temp : -9,00 °C URC Temp : -7,00 V URC Voltage : 4,43 V 73, Mike DK3WN

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FO-29
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 01 May '07

01 May '07

The FO-29 over Colombia Max El 82º, nothing copied 73 HK4MKE

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CP4 decoded completely
by Mineo Wakita 01 May '07

01 May '07

ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B -------------------------------------------------------------------- ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 116 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 B5 20 10 36 22 B4 02 06 03 57 A2 4B 54 C0 C2 19 18 02 02 21 > 7E BB 61 5F C2 BA 04 03 08 9E 26 52 59 BD C1 41 31 03 8C 54 41 > 1F 1B C5 BD 11 0E 02 68 8D 3D 3D C0 00 05 B8 5C B8 B8 B9 11 61 > 0F 0B 09 03 01 65 73 70 B9 B9 8B C7 6A Tnx. DK3WN, Mike Rupprecht See more, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/cp4decod.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/cp4deco2.htm de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Re: Planning
by Grant Hodgson 01 May '07

01 May '07

MKM wrote :- >We need new IF-DSP V/H/SHF radios with built in band scopes and >modules up to 5GHZ. and Ed wrote :- >The solution is to use a SDR on the IF of your current radio. Then >software can provide DSP, filtering, spectral and waterfall displays, >decoding...etc. >I am testing the SDR-IQ using the 28-30 MHz output of the DEMI 144/28 >converter. 144-MHz is very commonly used IF for microwave converters. A more modern approach would be to use an SDR at the RF frequency, with direct conversion to baseband, thus eliminating the transverter altogether. This is what the uWSDR (Microwave SDR) project is doing. In a nutshell - using the latest components and modern circuit topologies to realise a high-performance SDR operating at microwave frequencies. The first products will be for the 2.3GHz (which includes 2.4GHz) band and a sister product for 144MHz. The software for the user interface is new; the software for the low-level DSP is the same as used on SDR-1000 and other SDRs. More details can be found on the uWSDR website :- uwsdr.berlios.de and there is a Yahoo group for the developers and lurkers. ON/G4KLX will give a remote presentation via the web at Dayton, and I might be able to give a talk in person at Microwave Update. There are umpteen possibilities for product options for satellite use, such as a 2.4GHz only Rx, a crossband 1.3GHz Tx/2.4GHz Rx, etc. etc. Development progress has been painfully slow; if anybody would like to help with the design and development please contact one of the team. 73 Grant G8UBN for the uWSDR team

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Re: The need for telemetry data -or what happened to FO-29-
by Douglas Quagliana 01 May '07

01 May '07

stefan_wagener(a)hotmail.com wrote: > One key > component of failure analysis is the availability of data, especially > telemetry. > [snip] > My question is, can the satellite user community at large come up with a > system that allows the routine capturing of satellite telemetry? Is > there a role that AMSAT can play? What would it take? > > Thoughts are appreciated. > Hi, Here's my thoughts... I would like to see a system put in place that is similar to the one that was up and running while AO-40 was alive. That is, multiple groundstations around the world could receive the telemetry using whatever modem they used and forward that telemetry over the Internet (in either realtime or via email) to a central site which both archives and disseminates the telemetry to other groundstations. The archives were (and still are) publicly available on AMSAT web/ftp site at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/telemetry/ao40 I suppose if we asked the right people we could easily get hard drive space on that server to start archiving telemetry from other satellites. A very nice side effect of the collection efforts was that you could point your telemetry display program (which was not necessarily the same as the program that collected the telemetry and sent it to the server) at the telemetry server and the server would send current live telemetry to you as others sent their telemetry in to the server. In this way you could watch ("Live!") the progress of the satellite even when it was on the other side of the world and even if you yourself lacked the radios and/or modems. This was a lot of fun. By a curious coincidence, I have been working on a 9600 baud soundcard demodulator for Echo along with a telemetry display program and an Internet telemetry reflector. Ok, who wants to help? Douglas KA2UPW/5

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fo-29 tidbit
by Patrick McGrane 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Greetings- just a possible lead regarding fo-29 I noticed today fo-29 and ao-27 are crossing paths lately very close. Is it possible ao-27 output is affecting fo-29 input? Please excuse the simple post. Just thought it might mean something. Sorry if its stupid, take care, pat n2oeq

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AMSAT/TAPR Banquet tickets
by Gould Smith 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hello All, Just a reminder that there are only two weeks left to purchase your tickets to the Dayton AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Friday, May 18,2007. The "Under the Wings" Banquet will be held in the Air Force Museum. Ticket reservations can be made online at the AMSAT Store, follow the link from the front page of the amsat.org web site. Reserved tickets will be available for pickup at the AMSAT booth (#444-448) all day Friday, and at the Museum. Reserved tickets can only be purchased until end of business Monday, May 14, 2007 (two weeks from today). We must give the museum a final count on Tuesday morning. There will be no ticket sales at either the AMSAT or TAPR booth Friday, this is different than past years. Get online and make your reservations now for a great meal, great ambiance and great kinship. Don't be left out of THE Friday night event. 73, Gould, WA4SXM

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CP-4 telemetry Apr 30, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

All, 21:13UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 E7 25 0D 03 3B D4 02 07 04 5A A5 C9 D3 C0 CC 05 00 03 7A 21 > C1 C5 BE C2 CA 2D 38 09 AA 2A AF B4 BD 98 03 02 04 8A 4C F3 41 > E8 C5 95 00 00 03 70 95 F9 FC C0 00 05 B8 A4 B8 B9 A9 10 12 61 > 0B 0A 03 01 75 87 87 B9 B9 83 C7 69 F4 F1 FF D6 EB 83 C7 69 81 > F5 F5 FF 1D ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5C 01 25 2A 2C 5C A7 ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 2118 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 E9 25 0D 07 3A CB 02 07 03 55 9B 81 8F C0 9F 02 00 02 85 21 > B1 68 67 C2 C2 7E 62 09 B5 22 76 7B BE B5 03 03 04 96 52 F7 41 > E9 C5 9A 00 00 03 77 99 DB DE C0 00 05 B8 A4 B8 B8 AF 10 10 61 > 0C 04 0B 01 7A 8C 8A B9 BA 83 C7 6C F3 5B 00 D9 EB 83 C7 6C 81 > F3 4F 00 1F ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 68 01 27 4F 2A 5C EA 73, Mike DK3WN

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TS-790A
by John DiStefano 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

I just tried it and it will in fact do 1240 - 1300 as the manual states. 73, John KE3SU

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Libertad-1
by Mike Rupprecht 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

All, Libertad-1 telemetry Apr 30, 2007 at 21:56 UTC fm 5K3L to 5K3USA via BEACON ctl UI^ pid F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:191AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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Telemetry Reception Thoughts
by Steve Raas 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

I think that the reception of telemetry is a necessary duty. Saying that.. being new to sats.. a lot of this is all greek to me.. yet Im willing to learn and provide reception of telemetry. I do have digital mode capability, however.. Ive never set it up right. My set up is as follows: Icom IC 820H 2m/70cm all mode 2m Yagi - 5 element 70cm - 11 element Antennas are AZ/El movable as well PC Interface - Rigblaster Plug n Play USB I've received some GPRS stuff a while back.. but it dident do much for me looking @ a map telling me where people were. However receiving sat data for the good of the sat seems well worth doing to me. I have been fairly active on the analog sats and have no problems receiving them. So with all that being said.I volunteer to RX and record some telem data. Tell me what sat .. and be prepaired for lots of questions. I sit here frequently wishing I had sompthing constructive to do. -Steve Raas N2JDQ FN20vg

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TS-790A
by Stargate 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi all, Will the UT-10 1.2ghz module for the TS-790A tune to the 1260-1270 satellite band? I only found one reference on Google but wanted confirmation from someone that actually has one. I might have the chance to trade an Icom IC-706MK2G for a TS-790 w/UT-10 and was wondering if it would be a good deal. Thanks, RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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Re: The need for telemetry data -or what happened to FO-29-
by Tony Langdon 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

At 12:37 AM 5/1/2007, Stefan Wagener wrote: >My question is, can the satellite user community at large come up >with a system that allows the routine capturing of satellite >telemetry? Is there a role that AMSAT can play? What would it take? That seems like a good idea. With traditional equipment, that usually means having a second receiver following the beacon. Once the beacon is being received, appropriate software could be used to decode the telemetry. With the advent of SDRs now and into the not too distant future, there are more options. SDRs open the possibility of monitoring the entire passband, which means that the DSP filtering could simultaneously capture the telemetry, while you're working the satellite somewhere up the passband. This also opens other possibilities, such as automatic power control (now there's NO excuse to be an alligator!), while collecting that telemetry. Might be a good time for the software developers with DSP experience in the AMSAT community to team up with those working on SDRs. The beacon can also be used as a reference for Doppler correction, in case one's PC clock is out by several seconds. Telemetry servers such as the one that was setup for AO-40 could be a means of gathering all the telemetry, along with some form for offline distribution for those who don't have the Internet in their shack. The solutions for traditional radios aren't as neat, because of the second receiver requirement, and the need for it to have computer control in addition to the primary gear, but some clever people might be able to come up with something for the masses... 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com

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I: Re: TS-790A
by Francesco Grappi 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi RoD, KD0XX I have a TS-790E (not TS-790A) with UT-10 1.2 ghz module installed, I can tune the frequency from 1240 to 1300 Mhz (like Jim, KQ6EA saw on your manual). 73" Frank IW4DVZ > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]]Per > conto di Jim Jerzycke > Inviato: lunedi 30 aprile 2007 21.32 > A: stargatesg1(a)verizon.net; Amsat-Bb > Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: TS-790A > > > My manual says it will tune from 1240 to 1300MHz. > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > --- Stargate <stargatesg1(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Will the UT-10 1.2ghz module for the TS-790A tune to > > the 1260-1270 satellite > > band? I only found one reference on > > Google but wanted confirmation from someone that > > actually has one. > > I might have the chance to trade an Icom IC-706MK2G > > for a TS-790 w/UT-10 and > > was wondering if > > it would be a good deal. > > > > Thanks, > > RoD > > KD0XX > > > > A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, > > A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you > > saying..... > > > > > > "DAMN THAT WAS FUN" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are > > those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > > amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Last FO-29 Pass / Telem freq & Mode?
by Steve Raas 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Nothing herd.. Beacon wise or Downlink wise. The telemetry is on the beacon freq suposedly? Amsat web site is unclear to me where I would rx for it. This was by far my fav bird. Ill do anything I can to help out. -Steve Raas N2JDQ FN20vg

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FO-29 -- Lets see what happens !
by Steve Raas 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Im not sure if any one has had an intermittent reception of FO-29's Dnlnk other than myself, I plan on trying to see if I can hear the transponder again this afternoon as I have a really high pass from 19:14z to 19:34 z with max el of 71 deg. As per my SatPc32 its either orbit # 52848 or 54849 I will be sending dashes at 40 watts until it reaches about 10 deg ele, then ill go to 2 watt mode. I will try and keep the Downlink freq near 435.850. Unfortunatally I have no way of recording properly. Listen in from 19:14z - 19:34 again.. if I do hear my Downlink.. and its not on 435.850 I will qsy my uplink to get on frequency. Steve Raas N2JDQ FN20vg

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Re: FO-29 -- Lets see what happens !
by George Henry 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

As Mak, SV1BSX, pointed out earlier (see below), the footprint of IO-26 has been overlapping that of FO-29 recently.... run a track on both to make sure you're not hearing IO-26's beacon. George, KA3HSW >Just keep in mind, today IO-26 has about the same >FOOTPRINT with FO-29. > > The usual TRAP (again)! > > So, if you monitoring around 435.795, the >strong-carrier is not from FO-29 but IO-26's beacon. > >73, Mak SV1BSX -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Raas <sraas(a)optonline.net> >Sent: Apr 30, 2007 1:48 PM >To: Amsat-BB(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 -- Lets see what happens ! > >Im not sure if any one has had an intermittent reception of FO-29's Dnlnk >other than myself, I plan on trying to see if I can hear the transponder >again this afternoon as I have a really high pass from 19:14z to 19:34 z >with max el of 71 deg. As per my SatPc32 its either orbit # 52848 or 54849 >I will be sending dashes at 40 watts until it reaches about 10 deg ele, then >ill go to 2 watt mode. I will try and keep the Downlink freq near 435.850. >Unfortunatally I have no way of recording properly. > > > >Listen in from 19:14z - 19:34 again.. if I do hear my Downlink.. and its not >on 435.850 I will qsy my uplink to get on frequency. > > > > > >Steve Raas

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FO-29 Off in April and May 2004--Similar?
by DeYoung James 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Greetings, In review of older AMSAT-BB submissions I find that FO-29 was off several times, starting apparently in April 2004 through May 2004, for an unknown cause. It was reported by the command team as not being from under-voltage, the most popular guess, but from an unknown cause. As far as I can tell no reason was reported on AMSAT-BB, but the satellite was recovered. Similar to our 2007 events quite possibly. 73, KG4QWC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Planning
by john heath 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

A great suggestion from Ed KL7UW The solution is to use a SDR on the IF of your current radio. Then software can provide DSP, filtering, spectral and waterfall displays, decoding...etc. I am testing the SDR-IQ using the 28-30 MHz output of the DEMI 144/28 converter. 144-MHz is very commonly used IF for microwave converters. Does anyon know of a good 70cms to 10m downconverter? 73 John G7HIA

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FO-29
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hello, FO-29 over Colombia El 90º at 8:13 UTC Continuous carrier heard affected by Doppler on 435.800 MHz USB S3 on TS2000(x) No CW, No transponder response 73 HK4MKE

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Re: Non-Technical Question
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

All AMSAT-TAPR dinner tickets should be picked up at the AMSAT booth on Friday. 73- Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "AMSAT Website" <www(a)amsat.org> To: <martha(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: Non-Technical Question > > This message originated from the AMSAT website > > Sender: Dan Sherwood Email: wa6pzk(a)sbcglobal.net > Host: adsl-69-105-53-103.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net > > Subject: Non-Technical Question > > Message: > I sent an order for 3 tickets to the TAPR/AMSAT banquet at Dayton this > year. > > Transaction ....0002737 (3 tickets, $105) > > Do you folks mail the tickets to me, or do we pick them up somewhere at > the Hamvention?? > > So far, nothing has been sent to me. > > Thanks, > Dan and Adrienne Sherwood WA6PZK / WA6YEO > > Phone Number: (661) 264-1863 Best Time to Call: 10:00 am Pacific > > (end of message) > > > Problems with this message? Email to w0eec(a)amsat.org >

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Planning
by Jeff Davis, KE9V 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Sat Friends, Have you noticed the confluence of satellites scheduled to be launched in 2009? With the recent SSETI-ESEO news it seems that there is a good chance that P3E, SSETI and maybe even Eagle will fly in the 2009 time frame (plus/minus the normal delays). While that seems like a long time to have to wait, it also provides the opportunity to begin planning a new groundstation that can take advantage of the 2009 "Feast of Satellites." It's been years since the AO-40 failure and over a decade since AO-13 went sub-orbital. I can't be the only satellite enthusiast who could certainly do with a complete station overhaul? I hope we will see much discussion on the -BB about assembling new stations, new antennas and accessories. Since a person could invest a lot of money on equipment, it would be useful to have some published guidelines. Perhaps a series of articles in the Journal and other publications will be forthcoming as we all prepare for a new generation of satellite fun! Just something to think about. Having to wait such a long time for these projects to come to fruition is frustrating but it also offers enough time to begin saving for new equipment and assembling and testing everything required so we are all ready to use the new birds when they appear on the horizon. 73, Jeff KE9V

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CP-4 telemetry
by Mike Rupprecht 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi, copied and analyzed 2 telemetry frames this morning (Apr 30, 2007) 10:03 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 97 24 01 36 28 BF 02 06 03 58 98 4F 58 C0 C1 01 08 02 85 21 > B0 68 66 C2 BD 02 01 09 A7 25 5E 66 BE BE 89 76 03 9A 5F 23 41 > 1E C6 B7 47 3D 02 71 8B 39 39 C1 00 05 B8 5E B8 B8 B7 10 0F 61 > 0B 0D 03 01 65 74 70 B9 B9 83 C7 6B FC 4C 00 AD EB 8B C7 6A 81 > FC FF FF 66 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 62 01 30 33 2B 5D B7 CAPE Telemetry *** Seq No: 9367 [ RTC: 01:54:40 ] ####################################################### ------ JP5 SIDE PANEL -Y AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,49 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 11,03 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 88,00 magnetometer B : 152,00 internal Temp : 2,08 °C external Temp : -0,98 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ JP6 SIDE PANEL -X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,54 V Solar Panel Curr : 1,84 mA Peak Power Track : 14,71 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 133,00 magnetometer B : 176,00 internal Temp : -5,73 °C external Temp : -5,18 °C FPP 3V : 3,04 V ------ JP7 SIDE PANEL +Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,45 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 1,84 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 16,54 mA Magnetometer A : 167,00 magnetometer B : 37,00 internal Temp : -2,86 °C external Temp : -5,18 °C FPP 3V : 2,98 V ------ JP8 SIDE PANEL +X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,47 V Solar Panel Curr : 251,84 mA Peak Power Track : 216,91 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 154,00 magnetometer B : 95,00 internal Temp : 25,21 °C external Temp : 29,59 °C FPP 3V : 3,11 V ------ JP9 SIDE PANEL -Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,31 V Solar Panel Curr : 130,51 mA Peak Power Track : 112,13 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 113,00 magnetometer B : 139,00 internal Temp : 11,36 °C external Temp : 11,36 °C FPP 3V : 3,03 V ------ CDH DAQ ---------------------- RF Amp A Curr : 0,00 mA RF Amp B Curr : 45,96 mA CDH RegPow 3V : 2,89 V RF Amp Temp : -2,86 °C CommA RegPow 3V : 2,89 V CommB RegPow 3V : 2,89 V VSUM : 4,31 V ------ POWER -------------------- CDH Curr : 29,41 mA SP A Curr : 27,57 mA SP B Curr : 20,22 mA Comm A Curr : 23,90 mA Comm B Curr : 5,51 mA Payload Curr : 1,84 mA CDH Power Temp : -4,90 °C Comm A Pow Temp : -8,83 °C Comm B Pow Temp : -7,83 °C 3V Side Panel A : 2,90 V 3V Side Panel B : 2,90 V ------ BATTERY A ---------------- Protection Byte : 10000011 Status Byte : 11000111 Voltage : 4,18 V Temperature : -4,00 °C Current : 45,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1300,75 mAh ------ BATTERY B ---------------- Protection Byte : 10001011 Status Byte : 11000111 voltage : 4,14 V Temperature : -4,00 °C Current : -5,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1190,50 mAh ------ CDH ---------------------- CDH Status Byte : 00000011 CDH Current State : 00000001 CDH Reset Count : 0,00 ------ COMM --------------------- Statusbyte : 01100110 CC1000 Cal Reg : 38,00 CC1000 Pow Reg : 8,00 CC1000 max RSSI : 98,00 ------ PAYLOAD ----------------- Statusbyte : 1,00 RTC Temp : -2,00 °C Face Temp : 1,00 °C URC Temp : -7,00 V URC Voltage : 4,48 V ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 11:43 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 C9 24 03 22 10 C2 02 06 03 56 92 52 5A C0 C3 08 09 02 7F 21 > AC 66 64 C2 B4 02 01 08 A2 24 60 69 BD C2 27 21 03 8C 63 22 41 > 1D C5 BF 32 28 02 6B 8F 3A 39 C0 00 05 B8 5D B7 B8 BA 11 0F 61 > 09 0D 03 01 65 74 70 B9 B9 8B C7 6A FC FE FF 8B EB 8B C7 6A 81 > FC FE FF 85 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5C 01 30 33 2B 5D A5 The real values are for the last pass are: CAPE Telemetry *** Seq No: 9417 [ RTC: 03:34:16 ] ####################################################### ------ JP5 SIDE PANEL -Y AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,56 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 11,03 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 86,00 magnetometer B : 146,00 internal Temp : 1,02 °C external Temp : -1,62 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ JP6 SIDE PANEL -X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,59 V Solar Panel Curr : 14,71 mA Peak Power Track : 16,54 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 127,00 magnetometer B : 172,00 internal Temp : -5,18 °C external Temp : -4,61 °C FPP 3V : 3,04 V ------ JP7 SIDE PANEL +Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,24 V Solar Panel Curr : 3,68 mA Peak Power Track : 1,84 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 14,71 mA Magnetometer A : 162,00 magnetometer B : 36,00 internal Temp : -3,45 °C external Temp : -6,00 °C FPP 3V : 2,96 V ------ JP8 SIDE PANEL +X AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,56 V Solar Panel Curr : 71,69 mA Peak Power Track : 60,66 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 5,51 mA Magnetometer A : 140,00 magnetometer B : 99,00 internal Temp : 26,03 °C external Temp : 30,55 °C FPP 3V : 3,09 V ------ JP9 SIDE PANEL -Z AXIS ------ Solar Panel Volts : 4,49 V Solar Panel Curr : 91,91 mA Peak Power Track : 73,53 mA Magnetorquer Curr : 3,68 mA Magnetometer A : 107,00 magnetometer B : 143,00 internal Temp : 10,86 °C external Temp : 11,36 °C FPP 3V : 3,01 V ------ CDH DAQ ---------------------- RF Amp A Curr : 0,00 mA RF Amp B Curr : 45,96 mA CDH RegPow 3V : 2,89 V RF Amp Temp : -2,55 °C CommA RegPow 3V : 2,87 V CommB RegPow 3V : 2,89 V VSUM : 4,38 V ------ POWER -------------------- CDH Curr : 31,25 mA SP A Curr : 27,57 mA SP B Curr : 16,54 mA Comm A Curr : 23,90 mA Comm B Curr : 5,51 mA Payload Curr : 1,84 mA CDH Power Temp : -4,90 °C Comm A Pow Temp : -8,83 °C Comm B Pow Temp : -7,83 °C 3V Side Panel A : 2,90 V 3V Side Panel B : 2,90 V ------ BATTERY A ---------------- Protection Byte : 10001011 Status Byte : 11000111 Voltage : 4,14 V Temperature : -4,00 °C Current : -5,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1309,25 mAh ------ BATTERY B ---------------- Protection Byte : 10001011 Status Byte : 11000111 voltage : 4,14 V Temperature : -4,00 °C Current : -5,00 mA accumulated Curr : -1182,75 mAh ------ CDH ---------------------- CDH Status Byte : 00000011 CDH Current State : 00000001 CDH Reset Count : 0,00 ------ COMM --------------------- Statusbyte : 01100110 CC1000 Cal Reg : 38,00 CC1000 Pow Reg : 8,00 CC1000 max RSSI : 92,00 ------ PAYLOAD ----------------- Statusbyte : 1,00 RTC Temp : -2,00 °C Face Temp : 1,00 °C URC Temp : -7,00 V URC Voltage : 4,48 V 73, Mike DK3WN

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JARL Translator needed for FO-29 status
by Alan Thoren 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi to the group. Rather than speculate on the status of FO-29, perhaps someone with some Japanese/English ability could monitor the Japanese pages of the JARL site, http://www.jarl.or.jp/index.html as the English pages are not in sync with the Japanese. Specifically this page that may be FO-29 related as it has a FO-29 graphic and is dated 23 Apr 07 http://www.jarl.or.jp/Japanese/2_Joho/2007_news-4.htm#0423 I have not been successful installing the Japanese language pack into IE7. Even then, I don't know if a cut and paste into Babelfish http://babelfish.altavista.com/ would give us anything understandable. 73, Alan VE4YZ AMSAT 35968 <http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/> http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/ AMSAT A-485

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online translation page for JARL FO-29 web pages
by DeYoung James 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Greetings, The following tool seems to do a decent job at translation of the JARL FO-29 "news" page to English. http://www.google.com/language_tools My interpretation is the JARL FO-29 group wants any captured telemetry from just before the failure to help them figure out what is wrong. Also, they are looking for any reception reports since it has gone "off-the-air" to assist them in determining if the TX power is just extremely low (remember Suitsat-1!) or really off. Please, if you have any verified information that will help them recover FO-29 send it to them. 73, KG4QWC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Planning
by Edward Cole 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

At 06:55 AM 4/29/2007, Jeff Davis, KE9V wrote: >Sat Friends, > >Have you noticed the confluence of satellites scheduled to be launched >in 2009? With the recent SSETI-ESEO news it seems that there is a good >chance that P3E, SSETI and maybe even Eagle will fly in the 2009 time >frame (plus/minus the normal delays). > >While that seems like a long time to have to wait, it also provides >the opportunity to begin planning a new groundstation that can take >advantage of the 2009 "Feast of Satellites." > >It's been years since the AO-40 failure and over a decade since AO-13 >went sub-orbital. I can't be the only satellite enthusiast who could >certainly do with a complete station overhaul? > >I hope we will see much discussion on the -BB about assembling new >stations, new antennas and accessories. Since a person could invest a >lot of money on equipment, it would be useful to have some published >guidelines. Perhaps a series of articles in the Journal and other >publications will be forthcoming as we all prepare for a new >generation of satellite fun! > >Just something to think about. Having to wait such a long time for >these projects to come to fruition is frustrating but it also offers >enough time to begin saving for new equipment and assembling and >testing everything required so we are all ready to use the new birds >when they appear on the horizon. > >73, Jeff KE9V Jeff and all others thinking about long-term station needs: One can start by assessing what type of satelllite(s) you desire to work (or receive). Then look up the individual satellite project's home page to find their operating parameters: orbit type, min/max range, frequencies, power output and antennas. Once you have the particulars for the satellites you wish to track, then you need to calculate path-link performance in order to determine your ground station antenna, receiver and transmitter requirements. This last part is probably the biggest problem for most prospective operators. In the past I (and others) have written some programs to analyze performance of certain satellites. Most recently I did one for receiving the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, but this can be used (with a few modifications) for making path-link calculations for any satellite; here is the link to the Excel spreadsheet: http://www.kl7uw.com/MROCalc.xls It is not very fancy and has no macros, but it will provide one with an idea of what they need on the ground for receiving. To modify this program to suit another satellite you will need to turn off "protection" by clicking "tools", "protection", and select "unprotect sheet". In order for me (or others) to produce a program for predicting satellite performance (path-link analysis), we will need to know certain satellite parameters. I have not investigated to see if enough of these have been established for P3E or Eagle, for one to produce a specific program. A completely generic program can be done, which then would place the issue of gathering these parameters in the hands of the user. But I guess that such a generic program would have some value even if some items were "guess-itmates"! Once you have determined a set of antenna gain, receiver noise figure, and transmitter power requirements for your ground station, then it becomes a process of designing a station to accomplish them: right combos of radios, converters, preamps, cables, antennas, and tracking. I know that many wish a complete paper or article suggesting specific equipment and configurations to accomplish this. But at this point I suspect that too many things are still subject to change or still in design, to "nail down". 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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SEEDS launch postponed
by Mineo Wakita 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

The launch of 2nd SEEDS was postponed from 30 June to ???. GS will announce the launch date later. http://cubesat.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp/english/main_e.html http://cubesat.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp/english/seeds_2_e.html

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Libertad 1
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi, At 3:33 UTC Libertad 1 still have a good signal S9+30 Db FM 437.399 Mhz Decoded: 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C23I24P23R22_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:181AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C23I24P23R22_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:181AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C23I24P23R22_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:181AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C23I24P23R22_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:181AA El. 80º, orbit 183 74 HK4MKE

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Re: JARL Translator needed for FO-29 status
by Alan Thoren 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Responding to my own query, because I always post too soon, you can cut and paste the JARL URL's into the Babelfish link below and it will do a full web page translation. Bottom line they are still investigating, collecting information and but want feed back on any signal heard. However, I hesitate to give the email address for the feedback as it may not have been translated correctly. _____ From: Alan Thoren [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: April 29, 2007 10:04 PM To: 'amsat-bb(a)amsat.org' Subject: JARL Translator needed for FO-29 status Hi to the group. Rather than speculate on the status of FO-29, perhaps someone with some Japanese/English ability could monitor the Japanese pages of the JARL site, http://www.jarl.or.jp/index.html as the English pages are not in sync with the Japanese. Specifically this page that may be FO-29 related as it has a FO-29 graphic and is dated 23 Apr 07 http://www.jarl.or.jp/Japanese/2_Joho/2007_news-4.htm#0423 I have not been successful installing the Japanese language pack into IE7. Even then, I don't know if a cut and paste into Babelfish http://babelfish.altavista.com/ would give us anything understandable. 73, Alan VE4YZ AMSAT 35968 <http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/> http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/ AMSAT A-485

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Libertad-1 (Apr 29, 2007)
by Mike Rupprecht 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

All, Just copied over europe (JN49lr) at 22:47 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud): A00O24C23I23P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:178AA 22:47 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 (1202 baud): A00O24C23I23P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:178AA 22:47 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 (1202 baud): A00O24C23I23P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:178AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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Re: A Tale for 2 years old childrens
by George Henry 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

-----Original Message----- >From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(a)videotron.ca> >Sent: Apr 29, 2007 3:09 AM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] A Tale for 2 years old childrens > >It is OT and if you dislike OT post don't read this. > That's not the way it works, Luc.... If it's off-topic, DON'T POST IT!!!! This is NOT the place for you to post whatever you want, and for us to have to decide whether to read it or not. Stay on topic, or stay off the BB. We are ALL sick to death of this nonsense!

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CP-4 Apr 29, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

All, today at 09:15 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 AB 21 01 04 25 BE 02 05 03 4B 98 4E 57 C0 C8 02 00 02 81 21 > B3 64 62 C2 B5 02 01 08 A3 18 59 63 BD CA 12 10 03 8F 59 49 41 > 41 C5 C5 4C 42 02 6F 9A 49 45 C0 00 04 B8 6E B8 B8 C0 11 10 61 > 0A 0B 03 01 6E 7E 7A B9 BA 8B C7 6A F8 FE FF F3 EB 8B C7 6A 81 > F8 FF FF 8A ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5D 01 2E 30 2A 5D B4 ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ at 20:24 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 FB 22 0C 0D 38 8F 02 07 04 57 8D CE E0 C0 8F 04 00 03 66 21 > B0 D2 CF C1 8B 01 00 09 8B 29 B8 C4 BD 90 03 02 03 71 61 D9 41 > CE C4 8D 00 00 03 5A 98 E4 E7 C0 00 05 B8 94 B8 B8 A3 10 0F 61 > 0B 0B 05 01 69 7A 7A B9 BA 83 C7 66 F8 79 FF 7C EB 8B C7 6B 81 > F8 FF FF D1 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 4F 01 28 31 2E 5C CB 20:29 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 FE 22 0C 13 37 CC 02 07 03 58 9B 95 A2 C0 C3 03 00 03 84 21 > B7 9B 96 C2 C7 5C 5B 09 B5 26 9E A1 BE 9B 03 03 04 92 53 F6 41 > EB C5 98 00 00 03 77 96 F4 F7 C0 00 05 B8 A4 B8 B8 AC 10 0F 61 > 0C 03 0A 01 77 88 88 B9 B9 83 C7 6A F4 2E 00 73 EB 83 C7 6B 81 > F5 FD FF C8 ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6C 01 25 29 2B 5C A5 20:34 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 00 23 0C 17 36 B2 02 04 03 55 A7 6C 7A C0 B1 02 00 02 7B 21 > C0 6B 6A C2 C5 59 53 08 A6 23 68 6B BE C3 05 03 03 8D 45 E6 41 > D6 C5 AD 00 00 03 6E 99 C9 CC C0 00 05 B9 9F B8 B9 BF 12 11 61 > 0D 0A 03 02 7A 8B 89 BA BA 8B C7 6B F3 FF FF 79 EB 8B C7 6A 81 > F3 FC FF C9 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 4F 01 27 29 2A 5C EF 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad-1 decoded
by Mike Rupprecht 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Hi, just decoded at 21:05 UTC (Apr 29, 2007) 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud): A00O23C23I23P22R-4_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:177AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud): A00O23C23I23P22R-4_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:177AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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station setup
by Eric Fort 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

I just recently bought an ft-847 that I'd like to use for sat work. My interests are primarily voice modes NOT PACKET! I may be interested in using CW at some point but as for now my CW needs serious help. I'm located in DM14db and have limited space for antennas at this location or enough space for a full AZ-EL setup if I can remote the station to a location about 30 miles north. What else do I need in terms of antennas, (rotators), preamp, etc. and what birds will it allow me to work for both possible situations? What are the advantages and disadvantages of computer control for doppler shift and tracking? is computer control of these parameters good enough that 2 stations could ragchew on ssb without manual intervention? In each of the 2 different situations above which sats will I likely be able to work and what kind of operating will I likely find there (ragchew vs callsign/RST.) Thanks for the replies and look forward to working some of you on the birds, Eric KG6KQT

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western ao51 passes
by Robert Coppock 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

,,,, ,, i have a suggestion. can we try to limit the amount of banter, WX reports, etc. on ao51, especially on the weekends, when many people are wanting to get into the bird? i am not trying to create conflict, but there seems to be the same few people who make a contact with a new or rare station, then immediately go into "ao40/ao07" mode. maybe there would be more support (fund$) coming into amsat if more people could use the bird. hey, i have not paid much dues into this hobby for sure, just trying to open it up a little bit. the single channel FM birds have finite space and time, so please, lets "share and care". thank you for your consideration. 3 years into this stuff, and it is still a blast! peace, 73 Robert kf0g cm97 and OT, critical mass san francisco was a blast too! no riots, hassles, etc. just 4 hours of bicycle riding around the city with great people and WX.

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FS M2 144/435 Eggbeaters with Radials
by Jeff Kelly 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

FS pair of M2 144/435 Eggbeaters with Radials. In very good condition. $250 shipped CONUS. Jeff KT2K jkelly(a)bellatlantic.net

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FS - Mobile Wifi Stompbox
by Jeff Kelly 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

FS - Mobile Wifi Stompbox Excellent condition with external cel and wifi antennas Use with the Verizon 5220 EVDO card Uses the http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm motherboard. 128mb CF linux image. Site is currently down but is built like: http://www.stompboxnetworks.com/ other links: http://anton.lr2.com/archives/category/stompbox/ $200 or BO Jeff jkelly(a)bellatlantic.net

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TS 2000 Satellite Memory Software
by fish7days 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Hi, I use the Kenwood MCP 2000 software for regular memory allocations and various settings. What I can not get it to do (maybe because it just does not do it) is to read and write the satellite memory allocations. Is there a way it can do it, or alternatively, is there another program available to do it? Thx Andre N1AJV

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LIBERTAD-1 decoded Apr.29
by Mineo Wakita 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

LIBERTAD-1 #31129, 437.399 MHz Apr 29, 12:40-12:54 UTC, 2007 Apr 29, 21:40-21:54 JST, 2007 Max ele, 86 deg 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/29/07 21:45:22] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:172AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/29/07 21:45:24] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:172AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/29/07 21:45:26] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:172AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/29/07 21:45:28] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:172AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/29/07 21:45:30] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:172AA A00 Temp 1 = 00 [C] (dead) O23 Temp 2 = 23 [C] C23 Temp 3 = 23 [C} I23 Temp 4 = 23 [C] P22 Temp 5 = 22 [C] R-1 Temp 6 = -1 [C] _LIBERTAD_1COL_ Name of Satellite B:172AA Number of transmitted beacons http://www.usa.edu.co/proyecto_espacial/ http://www.usergioarboleda.edu.co/proyecto_espacial/docs/english_libertad.p… http://www.dk3wn.info/sat/afu/sat_libertad.shtml --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 29, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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A Tale for 2 years old childrens
by Luc Leblanc 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

It is OT and if you dislike OT post don't read this. As we just lost another transponder satellite FO-29 we will have soon to change the nature of this BB as there will be any voice satellite available! I know digital cubes will be all around but it is not my prefer soup. In the mean time here is a little tale for a 2 years old child.. The mouse trap A mouse observed through the slit of a wall the farmer and his wife to open a parcel: Which would be thus food that this parcel hid? wondered the mouse and which was not its shock only to discover that it was a mouse trap. He rush to the barn to proclaim this severe warning: There is a mouse trap in the house there is a mouse trap in the house! The chicken speak first and scraped his back and raising his neck he answered: "Mr Mouse, I understands that it is a problem for you but that does not have any consequence for me that does not disturb me" the Mouse turned to the pig and tells him: There is a mouse trap in the house there is a mouse trap in the house The pig showed sympathetic he answered: " I am very sorry Mr mouse, but I can do nothing to help you, but you can count on my prayers "the Mouse turned then to the cow and he shout his cry of alarm to him: There is a mouse trap in the house there is a mouse trap in the house! And the cow to answer "Eh well! Mr mouse, I am in pained for you, but that does not make me a fold on the belly!" So Mr Mouse turned over from there to the house, the head low and discouraged from having to face the mouse trap of the farmer. In the night which followed, a strange noise was heard in the house, a noise which resembled that of a mouse trap which had seized its prey. The woman of the farmer precipitated to see what had been caught but in blackness, she did not see that the tail of a venenous snake had been grabbed by the trap. Thrown into a panic, the snake bit the woman of the farmer who immediately go at the hospital, but alas, she returned to the house with a strong fever. Everyone knows well that it is necessary to look after a strong fever with a chicken soup and the farmer thus take his machete to bring the principal ingredient for the soup. But the disease of the woman of the farmer worsened to a point where all the friends and the neighbours took care of her 24 hours a day at her bedside and to feed her, the farmer had to make butchery with the pig. But the woman of the farmer did not take best and it ends up dying. Many peoples came to her funeral and the farmer had to kill the cow to have enough meat for all. Mr Mouse was watching all of this and from the slit of the wall he feel a great sadness. Thus, the next time that you will intend to say that one of your knowledge is struggling with a problem which does not concern you, remember that when one of ours is threatened, we all are in danger. We all are implied in this voyage that the life is called. Let us have the eye open on our close relations and make an effort to encourage itself mutually. Remember that each one of us constitutes an important wire in the fabric of another person but our lives are woven in the fabric of the others. One of the best values to be retained in the life is a friend and a friend can at time give some advices not always pleasant to hear... Written in the scope of Georges Tenet book. He quotes in his book an extract of this document which explains the potential risks of an American offensive in Irak to the president many months before the invasion of Irak. Thus, it is known as that this one could generate a wave of world terrorism aiming at the American interests, supplied with an increasing Islamic antipathy with regard to the United States, to cause an instability threatening the modes of Arab States key and to create important disturbances of the oil supply as well as serious tensions in Atlantic Alliance (NATO). I know i feel a bit concerned by our south friend moves but i'm afraid by any collateral damages to a point where i hope to be able to enjoy satellite operation more than watching over my shoulder. I could be listening too much stuff coming from the middle east and probably getting my south friend paranoia but i still think news media keep the boiling hot water pan cover close on this and on purpose... Again a bit OT! but just to let you know it is not all the BB readers who feel concern by satellite and technical stuff. Some are casual watchers with other interest... (eg: my last post with a Croatian reference) I was not reluctant to disclose some personal e-mails i received but i received this one on quite regular basis. Always on a different subject if i can say there was a subject??? Again i'm not commenting on the text... but just to let you know a bit of what i got time to time! Dear Luc Leblanc Ve2dwe ! Subject: Amateur Radio Emergency Service My school teacher of the 1960th Jütta Böttcher at the Schule Iserbarg in Hamburg Germany is one of the many women who want to meet Christ through the Big Brother wave predicted in the book with the title "1984". My property insurer should not facilitate the idea,that radio amateurs' property is available in one way or another. Women in need of Christ (Big Brother) have the Internet, and Messenger services as Praize to meet their Christ. Their Internet Christ naturaly will have to go to the Father, but I am certain they don't need radio amateurs' property for that typical sacrament. Identity confidential and call sign too ____________________ Curious world!!! Is it a charade? hidden code message? simply put in polite words "trouble mind essay"? spam mail? I don't have any clues but it is originating from a valid internet address!!! Your comments are welcome "-" "It is not the class of license the amateur holds, but the class of the amateur that holds the license." Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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Re: 5400 az rotor
by Dave Guimont 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

> >I am getting erratic direction readings from my 5400 az rotor. I am >sure it is the pot for the direction. Has anyone done sugery on >this unit. Wha should I do and not do. >thanks Hi Bob, I fixed a 5400 many years ago by soldering the rivets on the internal pot, and it worked for years after....may or may not help yours... 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/779 - Release Date: 4/28/2007

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Re: 5400 az rotor
by John DiStefano 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Bob, Before you go pulling the motors apart, try the pots in the control box. There are 4 in there, 2 for the meters and 2 for computer feedback. I have had to replace the meter pots years ago. It's a fairly simple task. 73, John KE3SU --- w7lrd(a)comcast.net wrote: >Hello >I am getting erratic direction readings from my 5400 >az rotor. I am sure it is the pot for the >direction. Has anyone done sugery on this unit. Wha should I do and not >do. thanks >73 Bob W7LRD >Seattle

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CP4 sound Apr.29
by Mineo Wakita 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

I recorded with MixW2 using USB mode and emulatiton an KISS TNC. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70429cp4.wav de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Digital modes and antenna questions
by Stargate 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hi, Can someone point me to a website that explains the current digital modes and ways to use them? Also decoding telemetry from the birds, is there a "one size fits all" software or does each satellite have specialized software for doing this? Can you use Sound cards, TNC, specialized modems? I keep seeing references to 9K6, 38k6, and the like and have no idea what they are. Also, are TNC's really necessary anymore? I've been away from amateur radio for over 10 years and things sure have changed. I'm still putting my satellite station together and am down to picking antenna's and feed line. I am trying to build the station up for the future HEO birds as well, so what kind of overall db receiving level should I be shooting for? Has anyone used "Gulf Alpha" antenna's? The cross polarized antenna's look very good to me. It wouldn't be circular polarization but I would be able to switch between vertical or horizontal with a flip of the switch. All help appreciated, TNX 73's RoD KD0XX

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5400 az rotor
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hello I am getting erratic direction readings from my 5400 az rotor. I am sure it is the pot for the direction. Has anyone done sugery on this unit. Wha should I do and not do. thanks 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle

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CAPE-1 telemetry
by Mike Rupprecht 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hi, telemetry from Apr 27, 2007 at 12:17 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00000000 12:20 k5usl 2 fefffdfc00fc0202fd 12:22 k5usl 3 000000000008 12:25 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00000000 Beacon 1: 9d00ffff00000000 Beacon 2: fefffdfc00fc0202fd Beacon 3: 000000000008 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 0 V Battery 1 Voltage : 5,1 V Battery 2 Voltage : 5,1 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 0 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 0 mA Temp Battery 1 : -2 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -3 °C Temp +Y face : -4 °C Temp -Y face : 0 °C Temp +Z face : -4 °C Temp -Z face : 2 °C Temp RF Amp : 2 °C Temp Battery 2 : -3 °C Panel +X face : 0 °C Panel -X face : 0 mA Panel +Y face : 0 mA Panel -Y face : 0 mA Panel +Z face : 0 mA Panel -Z face : 80 mA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 21:52 k5usl 3 000000000000 21:55 k5usl 1 9d00d2d300000900 21:57 k5usl 2 fdffe4e2e0e5dcfffd 21:59 k5usl 3 000000010006 22:02 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00000000 22:04 k5usl 2 fcfff3eef8fbe4fffb Beacon 1: 9d00d2d300000900 Beacon 2: fdffe4e2e0e5dcfffd Beacon 3: 000000010006 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 0 V Battery 1 Voltage : 4,2 V Battery 2 Voltage : 4,22 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 0 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 9 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 0 mA Temp Battery 1 : -3 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -28 °C Temp +Y face : -30 °C Temp -Y face : -32 °C Temp +Z face : -27 °C Temp -Z face : -36 °C Temp RF Amp : -1 °C Temp Battery 2 : -3 °C Panel +X face : 0 °C Panel -X face : 0 mA Panel +Y face : 0 mA Panel -Y face : 10 mA Panel +Z face : 0 mA Panel -Z face : 60 mA 73, Mike DK3WN

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CP4 telemetry
by Mike Rupprecht 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Apr 27, 2007 at 21:20 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 44 20 0D 09 1C 92 02 07 04 63 9D D9 EA C0 93 04 00 03 80 21 > BA CD C9 C1 8E 01 00 09 A8 33 BE CC BD 93 03 03 03 8D 52 E6 41 > DB C4 90 00 00 03 73 8C EE F1 C0 00 05 B8 9B B8 B8 A6 11 0E 61 > 0B 03 0C 01 6E 80 80 B9 B9 83 C7 68 F6 BA FF 36 EC 83 C7 68 81 > F7 BF FF 68 ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 26 35 2D 5C B0 21:25 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 47 20 0D 0F 1B B6 02 05 03 51 A5 9C AE C0 CD 45 37 02 77 21 > BD 6D 64 C2 B0 01 00 08 95 23 6B 77 BE B6 03 01 03 7F 48 FB 41 > F0 C5 CF 0E 0B 03 66 9F F7 F5 C1 00 04 B9 A7 B8 B9 C3 10 10 61 > 0D 0A 04 02 7A 8C 8B BA BA 8B C7 6C F3 FD FF 34 EC 8B C7 6B 81 > F4 FF FF 67 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5A 01 26 16 2A 5C BF 73, Mike DK3WN

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Re: IRB's and Satellites.
by Edward Cole 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Jeff, Perhaps I should retrench in my comments, as I do not disagree with you. My entire ham radio experience "is" that challenge. I am an engineer and what "we" do is design and build. EME and Microwave provide that. Satellite, also, but to a lessor level...it is my "desert after the meal". I have a dear friend that absolutely refuses anything dealing with IRLB or Echolink. But I feel they serve a purpose and do provide a service. There is no incentive to build, except to the folks that provide the service. That is how I look on repeaters. They are handy for talking over. They do not "excite" because that is what I do professionally (repeaters are work, not fun). At work I have 7 remote bases to maintain. So in the back of my mind I was thinking that the IRB or IRLB linking for running a remote base is merely a utility...same as leasing a phone line. Just a piece of the station (like a microphone). Setting up a remote base can be ham radio fun (like repeaters are for many). But if you are merely accessing a public remote base then its like buying long distance telephone service (yawn). But if your living situation prohibits direct participation in a facet of ham radio (apartment restrictions, not enough money) then it is a way to experience some of the fun (sort of like hanging over at the neighbor ham's super station). Whether this will become an incentive to get involved in at a "personal" level is a question. I think that is like anything else one comes in contact with in their life. Some do, some don't. But I am "FOR" new ideas, and new ways. Keeping it "new" is FUN. Why I am now getting into MW listening on 500-KHz. Its new and still falls under the big umbrella called "weak-signal". BTW DX began as a "weak-signal" activity, but on HF-DX (mostly) has become a sport (competition). Satellite and QRP now provide much of the fun of the early HF DX...discovering how far one can push the envelope! 73's Ed - KL7UW 0.5 - 10,368 MHz, sat, eme, m/s, radio astronomy, SDR's, ...no end in sight ;-) At 02:31 AM 4/27/2007, Jeff Davis, KE9V wrote: >On 4/26/07, Edward Cole <kl7uw(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: > > We have seen this debate here in Alaska with the '"diehard" (read > > this also as the super pro-CW) ham disliking anything dealing with > > marriage between the Internet and ham radio. > >I don't think my position could be considered "diehard" and as the >operator of IRLP node 4212 I have no problem with the "marriage >between the Internet and ham radio." In fact, I think it serves a >great purpose and I use it daily. I wish we had a weekly AMSAT Net via >Echolink or IRLP so we could use such technologies to further discuss >the future of ham radio in space (anyone want to join me?) without the >vagaries of HF propagation. > >But I think that there are certain facets of the hobby, like >satellites and EME and probably others, where folks get involved >specifically for the technology. Would a homebrewer without access to >a soldering pin be content to watch others build equipment on a live >video feed? Would there be a thrill in logging on to a super station >on another continent from your laptop and working moonbounce? > >Unless one is a skeptic that this sort of thing (EME) actually takes >place and just needs some proof, I think we all believe that with the >right equipment the deed CAN be done, but the challenge is in doing >it. > > > So I have no problem with remote bases linked by IRLB, echolink, or > > like technology. As long as any records, contest entry reflects the > > actual radio transmitter QTH. > >The amateur satellite world has a unique problem. It doesn't work well >without satellites and those cost money to build and to launch. If we >were to setup a dozen super stations around the world, all fully >accessible via the internet -- and few built their own stations >anymore, will those Internet users financially support future AMSAT >projects? > >If your entire investment in amateur radio is the laptop that you >already own, are you as inclined to support costly future projects as >the operator who has invested perhaps thousands of dollars and hours >of labor in assembling and building a world class groundstation? > >I think there is some evidence that they do not... > >20 years ago there was a very popular idea that AMSAT should focus on >EZ-Sats because that would get more people involved with amateur >satellites since all they would need to operate them was a handheld >transceiver. Soon, we had all kinds of new operators using the flying >FM repeater satellites but curiously, AMSAT membership took a nose >dive from which it has yet to recover. > >Perhaps making everything as "easy" as just logging on to a remote >station isn't such a good idea either? > >Jeff, KE9V >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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No signal from FO-29
by Mika Siira 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hi all, I just monitored orbit #52819, nothing heard in KP24SX. It is sad if we have lost FO-29 forever, I have had many nice QSO's with my balcony antenna setup during past 1,5 years. People are now moving to use other sats and it is really noticeable. During european passes AO-51 is just a big chaos and on VO-52 it is much more difficult to make QSO's because of some alligators. I am planning to make some kind of satellite station to my mother's house in KP25 during this summer and try to make my first transatlantic contact. I keep my thumbs up that AO-7 stays alive for this attempt! :) Mika, OH8MBN

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I listened today CAPE-1 CW around 435.2474 +/- doppler.
by Mineo Wakita 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

I listened today CAPE-1 CW around 435.2474 +/- doppler. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70428ca1.wav http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70428ca2.wav --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 28, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Libertad-1 frequency
by Mike Rupprecht 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

All, just copied telemetry at 10:43 UTC (Apr 28, 2007) loud and clear 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O55C11I66P24R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:157AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O55C11I66P24R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:157AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O55C11I66P24R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:157AA Temperatures : Sensor A dead (0) Sensor O 55°C Sensor C 11°C Sensor I 66°C Sensor P 24°C Sensor R -2°C Frequency = 437.399 MHz +/- Doppler TLE NORAD #31129 73, Mike

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New Satellite launch prediction
by Mineo Wakita 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Nanosatellite Launch System 4 Launch Date: June 30, 2007 Launch Vehicle: Antrix Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PLSV) Separation System: XPOD (5), Cute Separation System (1) Spacecraft Complement: CanX-2 (Canada), AAUsat-2 (Denmark), Cute-1.7+APD II (Japan), COMPASS-1 (Germany), Delfi-C3 (Netherlands), SEEDS (Japan) Satellite Uplink Downlink Mode CANX-2 70cm 13cm Not AX.25, 2m CW AAUSAT-II 437.425 437.425 1200bd AFSK, 9600bd FSK, CW COMPASS-1 . . 9600bd FSK, CW DELFI-C3 435.570-530 145.880-920 Inverting DELFI-C3 . 145.870 1200bd BPSK, CW CUTE 1.7+APD II 1267.6 437.475 AX.25/SRLL CUTE 1.7+APD II . 437.275 CW SEEDS . 437.485 CW http://showcase.netins.net/web/wallio/CubeSat.htm http://www.utias-sfl.net/SpecialProjects/LaunchIndex.html de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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SatGates & PacSats
by Jeff Davis 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Has it been over a decade now -- since that fellow was on an assignment in Antarctica (or was it the other end?) and he would send up pictures and reports via KO-25? It stands out in my mind as being one of the more memorable things that I've witnessed in my years as a radio amateur. I recall in one of his messages he reported that he was getting great upload and downloads from the bird because he was the only station in the queue as it passed over him! Gosh those were good times. I had my station setup to operate automagically for the digital PacSats. Many times I would be out in the yard mowing the lawn and suddenly see my yagis start tracking something. Later, I'd go down in the shack and browse all the directory fills that had been downloaded on the previous pass. If I happened to be in the shack at pass time it never ceased to give me a kick to watch my callsign appear in the queue! Sure wish that kind of operation wasn't just a memory anymore... 73, Jeff KE9V

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Re: CAPE-1 telemetry
by Jonathan Wagner 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Thanks again Mike. Don't forget to multiply the solar currents by 10 mA on the beacon 3. Your data has been invaluable. Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG Mike Rupprecht wrote: > > Hi, > > and now the last telemetry data from CAPE-1 after 22:49 UTC (Apr 27) > in europe > > 22:49 k5usl 2 ffffeae5eaebdf00fd > > 22:51 k5usl 3 260000340018 > > 22:53 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00000000 > > MPB Voltage : 3,14 V > > HPB Voltage : 0 V > > Battery 1 Voltage : 5,1 V > > Battery 2 Voltage : 5,1 V > > Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA > > Batt 1 Current absorb : 0 mA > > Batt 2 Current gener : 0 mA > > Batt 2 Current absorb : 0 mA > > Temp Battery 1 : -1 °C > > Temp +X face : -1 °C > > Temp -X face : -22 °C > > Temp +Y face : -27 °C > > Temp -Y face : -22 °C > > Temp +Z face : -21 °C > > Temp -Z face : -33 °C > > Temp RF Amp : 0 °C > > Temp Battery 2 : -3 °C > > Panel +X face : 38 > > Panel -X face : 0 > > Panel +Y face : 0 > > Panel -Y face : 52 > > Panel +Z face : 0 > > Panel -Z face : 24 > > confirm TLE #31130 ! > > That’s all for today J > > 73, Mike > > DK3WN > > > > ____________ > Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit > Version: AVK 17.4276 from 27.04.2007 > Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com

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we loss our back-up net
by nader omer 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

very sad to loss satgate if we loss power and the wi fi nets we wll sent our text files by dot and dash :-( we loss our back-up net Nader - st2nh --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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transitor 3sk51-03
by art coulombe 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Greetings: this may not be directly related to sat except that I use my reciever for the down link. the problem is that it has been dificult to find any sourse for this little monster. The EGC454 maybe the replacement? 3sk51-03 = dual gate mosfet n-ch uhf/vhf. thanks art #25124

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Ted Cross N0IAK/G0HHY SK
by Nate Duehr 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

[Forwarding our club's announcement to the AMSAT-NA list. I know Ted was involved in some AMSAT projects over the years, also. Nate WY0X] The Colorado Repeater Association is saddened to announce the passing of a good friend, and one of our long-term supporters and Board members. Ted Cross, N0IAK, passed away early in the week of April 16th due to complications arising from a seizure. Ted was 46 years old. Ted was from England and was dual-licensed. His other Amateur callsign was G0HHY. Ted worked as a firmware engineer for Hewlett-Packard, and enjoyed numerous interests outside of Amateur radio, including travel, the outdoors, aviation, music, fly fishing and sailing. He is survived by his father and sisters who live in the United Kingdom. Ted loved working on and creating new technologies. He was driven to try new things, and was an inspiration to many Amateurs. His enthusiasm for all things new in technology was infectious, and he made working on difficult problems fun. His work with the CRA dates back to the early 1990's, and includes creating the Colorado Front Range's first 1200 and 9600 baud digital-regenerative packet repeaters, installation and maintenance of numerous CRA voice repeater systems -- including the initial build-out of the Colorado Springs link and the Lee Hill site -- and creating and administering the CRA BBS during the years the CRA was involved in packet radio. In the past and present, Ted also assisted with other Colorado Amateur Radio organizations, including various packet radio groups, and Mountain Top Associates of Colorado, especially on experimental modes and bands. Ted worked regularly with small groups of other hams, assisting in design, build, and operation of any system he found an interest in. Ted was one of the first Amateur Radio operators in the area to experiment with the protocols we now know as "the Internet", including working with TCP/IP over packet radio, and other advancements in data networking in the 1980's and 90's. Ted was also recognized as a guru on the internal workings of Linux and was a regular contributor to the open source community. Anyone who knew Ted will remember his big Scottish brogue, his willingness to dive headlong into any new project, and his love for all things in technology -- especially if he could dig in and improve or change it. His passion was engineering, and he was a true technical pioneer. On behalf of the CRA Officers, Board, and Members -- we say, 73 Ted. Rest in peace.

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Libertad-1 heard
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi, at last heard Libertad-1 at Apr 27, 2007 22:48 UTC. Used TLE #31129 but nominal frequency near TCA was 437.398 MHz. 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-4_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:150AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-4_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:150AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-4_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:150AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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KR 600X Rotor
by James Murray 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Looking for wiring diagram for KR 600X az rotor. found a manual on google, but they wanted $14.00. Not that I am cheap, but looking for a free one. Jim http://www.knology.net/~w4lwt

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CP-4 telemetry (Apr 27)
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi, last pass for europe (and me) at : 22:08 AOS 22:10 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 8B 1D 0E 01 01 92 02 07 04 61 9C D0 E1 C0 93 03 00 03 5C 21 > BF D1 CE C1 8E 01 00 09 82 35 BF CC BD 94 03 02 03 69 52 D8 41 > CD C4 90 00 00 03 54 8D DF E3 C0 00 05 B8 94 B8 B8 A7 11 0F 61 > 0C 03 09 01 69 7A 7A B9 B9 83 C7 68 F8 BA FF 3A EC 83 C7 68 81 > F8 D8 FF A2 ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 69 01 28 2E 2E 5C DD ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 22:15 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 8D 1D 0E 05 00 91 02 07 04 5E A5 D9 EA C0 92 03 00 03 7A 21 > C3 CE CC C1 8E 01 00 09 A2 2F C2 CF BD 93 03 02 03 88 4A ED 41 > E2 C4 8F 00 00 03 6E 90 F4 F7 C0 00 05 B8 A0 B8 B9 A6 10 0F 61 > 0D 0A 03 01 72 84 85 B9 BA 83 C7 67 F5 CD FF 30 EC 83 C7 68 81 > F6 BE FF 9B ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 62 01 25 2B 2C 5C C6 22:20 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 115 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 90 1D 0E 0A 3B CE 02 07 03 54 A6 76 82 C0 95 02 00 02 7F 21 > BD 63 62 C1 C5 19 03 08 A4 21 85 8E BD C9 05 04 04 90 43 F8 41 > E9 C4 91 00 00 03 70 97 BE C1 C0 00 05 B8 A1 B8 B8 A6 10 10 61 > 0B 03 0C 01 7B 8C 8A BA BA 83 C7 67 F3 AE FF 32 EC 83 C7 67 81 > F3 BF FF 9E ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 69 01 26 29 2A 5C FA 22:23 LOS good pass - 3 beacons J confirm TLE #31122 @Keith: Thanks for all the information. Do you need some audio files ? 73, Mike DK3WN

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CAPE-1 telemetry pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi, the pass at 2109 UTC for CAPE-1. Sorry for being late but was looking for Libertad-1 ;-) 21:09 k5usl 3 000131002f00 21:11 k5usl 1 9d00e2e00b0070 21:13 k5usl 2 feffefeef2f6e400fc 21:15 k5usl 3 000100000700 Beacon 1: 9d99e2e0000b0070 Beacon 2: feffefeef2f6e400fc Beacon 3: 000100000700 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 3,06 V Battery 1 Voltage : 4,52 V Battery 2 Voltage : 4,48 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 11 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 112 mA Temp Battery 1 : -2 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -17 °C Temp +Y face : -18 °C Temp -Y face : -14 °C Temp +Z face : -10 °C Temp -Z face : -28 °C Temp RF Amp : 0 °C Temp Battery 2 : -4 °C Panel +X face : 0 Panel -X face : 1 Panel +Y face : 0 Panel -Y face : 0 Panel +Z face : 7 Panel -Z face : 0 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad-1 update
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

All, heard Libertad at 21:06 (Apr 27) but signal was very weak and not to decode. This was an overhead pass (high elevation) - exceptional weak for such passes and Libertad .. Yesterday the same (Apr 26) - heard at 20:25 UTC weak and not to decode. 73, Mike

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CP-4 telemetry (Apr 27)
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi, following CP-4 telemetry frames captured at 20:35:30 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 5B 1D 0C 19 18 8D 02 07 04 4F 8A D5 E7 C0 8D 04 00 03 6F 21 > AB CF CB C1 89 01 00 09 96 1F BC C9 BD 8E 03 02 03 79 66 E8 41 > DE C5 8B 00 00 03 63 A0 F1 F5 C0 00 04 B8 9C B8 B8 A1 11 10 61 > 0C 0A 03 01 6F 80 81 B9 BA 8B C7 6B F6 FF FF 8C EC 83 C7 65 81 > F7 AC FF 59 ED 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 60 01 26 2B 2D 5C D1 ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ 20:40:30 UTC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 5E 1D 0C 1F 17 AF 02 05 03 5C A5 81 90 C0 C4 02 00 02 89 21 > BB 6F 6C C2 C3 57 50 08 B5 2A 5C 5F BE AE 03 01 03 99 48 F6 41 > EB C5 AB 00 00 03 7C 94 E6 E9 C0 00 04 B8 A3 B8 B8 BE 11 11 61 > 0C 03 0C 01 78 8A 89 BA BA 8B C7 6B F3 F8 FF 8B EC 8B C7 6B 81 > F4 F9 FF 5E ED 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 69 01 28 27 2A 5C F8 73, Mike DK3WN

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CAPE-1 back (Apr 27)
by Mike Rupprecht 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

All, just heard the following telemetry over Europe at 19:26 AOS 19:28 k5usl 1 9d00d1d200000900 19:30 k5usl 2 00ffe5e7e8edde01fe 19:33 k5usl 3 001600004200 19:35 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00000000 19:38 k5usl 2 fdfff2f6f1f8ec00fc 19:38 LOS --------------------------------------------------------- Beacon 1: 9d00d1d200000900 Beacon 2: 00ffe5e7e8edde01fe Beacon 3: 001600004200 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 0 V Battery 1 Voltage : 4,18 V Battery 2 Voltage : 4,2 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 0 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 9 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 0 mA Temp Battery 1 : 0 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -27 °C Temp +Y face : -25 °C Temp -Y face : -24 °C Temp +Z face : -19 °C Temp -Z face : -34 °C Temp RF Amp : 1 °C Temp Battery 2 : -2 °C Panel +X face : 0 Panel -X face : 22 Panel +Y face : 0 Panel -Y face : 0 Panel +Z face : 66 Panel -Z face : 0 73, Mike DK3WN

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Re: Satgate System Closed
by Robert Coppock 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

,,,, ,, this is too bad. it was invaluable for those out in the backwoods for 1.fun- sending emails out 2.need-EMERGENCY BEACONS via aprs. i tried it once, sending an email via the ISS and it is super cool. is something taking it's place, or will we all need GMDSS (global marine distress and safety system) on land now ? or i guess the regular PLB (personal locator beacons) but no position information on those. ciao, and....... Kurt Vonnegut RIP "you must either laugh at life, or cry out at its absurdity"."if you can do a half-a$$ed job of anything, you are a one-eyed man in a kingdom". --,,, ,,,-- kF0G cm97 going to critical mass in san francisco today, maybe i can help control the trouble starters. or try anyway.

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FO-29 70-cm beacon off
by DeYoung James 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Greetings, I monitored for the FO-29 70-cm beacon (435.796 nominal) from 18:29:14 UTC (rise) to 19:48:34 UTC (set) tuning the IC-910H for Doppler with SATPC32. No evidence of any signal was sen in a audio-bsaed spectrogram that could be remotely identified as being from FO-29. KG4QWC, FM18 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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FO29 QRT OVER PY LAND
by Fabio T. Magalhaes 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi for all FO29 pass over my QTH (27/04/2007 at 18:19 UTC - Az. 77° El. 82° Orbt nr 52808) but I didn't copy anything..... 73 es DX Fabio - PY4AJ GH70un

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Re: missing the FO satellites.
by John Hackett 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hello Frank, In the course of writing a new article I was just researching one of my old waffles and noticed that you andI had a 9 minute (CW) QSO via FO-20 ... 9 years ago. K9CIS got quite a write-up too ! ... ha-ha-ha. The wheel keeps turning so it was nice to hook up again on AO-7. I too miss the FO satellites ... they were my all time favourites. I managed LA to JA on FO-20 and to the best of my knowledge that's still a LEO record. So sad to see FO-29 go down but hey!, none of us live forever, it sometimes just "feels" like we do. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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CAPE-1 9k6 FSK again
by Mineo Wakita 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

CAPE-1 #31130, 435.245 MHz Apr 25, 12:42-12:57 UTC, 2007 Apr 25, 21:42-21:57 JST, 2007 Max ele, 82.8 deg 9k6 FSK, yet I can't decode it by TNC, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70427cap.wav Nick Pugh wrote: > Not yet the team has mid-term exams this week > but we will be on this weekend --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 27, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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(no subject)
by John Hackett 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hello Folks, Here's the link to the full "Satellites and IRB's" article. <http://www.observations.biz/Observations_from_Norway/Observations_27_04_200…> 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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IRB's and Satellites.
by John Hackett 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

OBSERVATIONS FROM NORWAY. 26-04-2007. INTERNET REMOTE BASE STATIONS FOR SATELLITES. Love 'em or hate 'em ... IRB'as are a part of amateur radio. So ... why would LA2QAA want to use one?. Well, they can! be used for operating satellites. On a recent (unsheduled) visit to the local horse-spittle ... (I don't like these places, they're always full of sick! people) ... the surgeons positively refused !! to allow me to set up the satellite array in the intensive care unit while they performed renovation work on the pig's heart in LA2QAA's chest ... (oink!). (PAPPA INDIA GOLF as in smoked bacon, not two legged creature with badge). Their excuse was that the rotor noise might disturb the other patients snoring ... so lying connected to various hospital type spectrum analysers and other pieces of apparatus has a tendency to put a serious crimp in satellite operating for a while and it initiated the reasoning behind why LA2QAA might want to use an IRB, to get round the issue of being denied aerial privilages. The following is a short article destined for the Observations from Norway pages on <http://observations.biz> ........................................................................................................................ AMATEUR SATELLITES AND IRB's (IRB station = Internet Remote Base station). FOR PEOPLE WISHING TO OPERATE AMATEUR SATELLITES BUT DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR KNOW-HOW. (The know-how can be found elsewhere on this website). Visitors to the <http://www.observations.biz/> web page will soon become aware that LA2QAA & GM1SXX are always trying to help newcomers to amateur satellite operating by providing hints and tips in their satellite related articles. Two of the main excuses used by potential newcomers for *NOT* operating on satellites are ... 1) The sophisticated equipment that is necessary is too expensive ... and ... 2) I don't have the possibility of erecting rotatable beams ... The facts are, neither of the above arguments are valid because ... 1) You don't *NEED* sophisticated equipment ... and ... 2) Rotatable beams are *NOT* necessary to work satellites that are in low earth orbit (LEO). While it is true that AMSAT (The Amateur Satellite Corporation) prefer to promote satellites with "cutting edge" technology that require expensive equipment, there ARE satellites that only require relatively simple equipment ... a flying FM repeater like AO-51 and analogue ... (CW/SSB) ... satellites like AO-7 and VO-52. Even if you don't have the necessary equipment at home to use any of these satellites, providing you have access to the Internet with at least a 300bps modem (preferably faster) you *CAN* work these satellites using only your computer!!. Unlike Echolink, which is a 100% Internet based system, an IRB (Internet Remote Base) station transmits and receives via the ionosphere just like any "normal" amateur radio and aerial system. You only connect via the Internet to the remote base station ... the IRB transmits and receives your signal to and from the satellite via the ionosphere. You can control all aspects of the remote rig directly from your computer keyboard or even use a 3G mobile phone. (LA2QAA has actually done it like this using Remote Desktop for Mobile phones software). With the VK3UR IRB you can even turn the 70cm aerial remotely as well as choosing an appropriate power level setting, different modes, filters, adjust AF and RF gain etc just as if you were actually sitting in front of the rig. The VK3UR IRB uses a TS2000 transceiver so there are a lot of options. Before reading further, it would be advisable to read "HOW MUCH POWER IS ENOUGH", part 1 on ... <http://www.observations.biz> HOW TO OPERATE THE VK3UR REMOTE BASE STATION FOR AO-7. First ... read the instructions !!! and familiarise yourself with the rig's controls for changing frequency and the use of filters, operating modes and rotor control etc. Next, tune the TX to 432.150 Mhz LSB, press "S" on your keyboard, this will put the radio into SPLIT mode, then tune the RX to 145.941 Mhz USB ... make sure you have a suitable tracking program on your desktop that calculates the azimuth and elevation as well as the necessary doppler offset. (LA2QAA uses NOVA). Now you can remotely turn the 70cm yagi towards AO-7 and operate just as if you were operating from your own shack. REMEMBER !!! ... set up your tracking software QTH as Victoria, Australia ... *NOT* your home QTH ... otherwise the passes will be (literally) half a world !! off. Also remember ... to stay legal, you have to identify at least every 10 minutes so you operate with the callsign VK3/YOUR CALL ... it is advisable to mention you're operating via the VK3UR IRB in Victoria, Australia so that the Ozzies don't think you're a pirate playing Silly Sods. The coordinates for VK3UR are ... 37 degrees, 33 minutes, 43 seconds SOUTH and 143 degrees, 49 minutes, 7 seconds EAST in Victoria, Australia. (Enter these coordinate into your tracking program). At the time of writing (24-04-07) the IRB is not set up for FULL duplex operation but you should have no trouble at all working ANALOGUE LEO satellites like AO-7 or VO-52 using this method. The station is already set up for FM use with automatic doppler tracking and tuning for AO-51 or The ISS ... (see the SETUP menu "special settings", satellite operations). As well as having the radio interface on my desktop I have NOVA + the doppler corrections visible. Of course, this won't be FULL duplex operation but you won't have any problem at all working ANALOGUE satellites with this set-up. As with all satellite operating ... get into the habit of using those rather wierd things stuck to the side of your head ... (he means EARS, folks). LISTEN before you speak. Where appropriate, listen to the beacon BEFORE transmitting and "guesstimate" your power accordingly ... (now you know why FULL duplex is recommended for operating via satellite). Actually, the MONITOR facility "could" be used if the IRB software was "tweaked" slightly. You can obtain a password for operating the VK3UR IRB by sending the owner a copy of your current licence ... (providing it's a reciprocal licence with VK) ... to <dave(a)daves-portal.com> The service requires no registration or donation fee. Have fun!. 73 LA2QAA John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> ....................................................................................................................................... One very useful feature is that an IRB in a location remote from your normal operating position allows you to perform propagation comparisons. Another is ... (in my particular case) ... soon after I lose AO-7 on certain passes at Frei Island, Norway ... (home QTH) ... I can pick it up again from Reston, Virginia ... (IRB). The main advantage next to the aerial restriction issue is that an IRB allows those amateurs whom don't have the necessary equipment to try their hand at satellite operation, therefore, hopefully, bringing in some new recruits. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Re: Status of Cute 1.7 ?
by Ralph Wallio, W0RPK 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

John -- CUTE 1.7+APD has been transmitting a continuous unmodulated carrier on 437.385MHz since 07May06. The spacecraft is not responding to ground station commands. Its power budget will allow this condition to continue indefinitely. Information about operational CubeSats is available via http://showcase.netins.net/web/wallio/CubeSat.htm. TNX es 73 de Ralph Wallio, WØRPK W0RPK(a)netINS.net http://showcase.netins.net/web/wallio/ Hubbert's Peak - The Mother of all Perfect Storms ----------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:52:42 +0100 From: "john heath" <> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status of Cute 1.7 ? To: "amsat" <> Hi listened for Cute 1.7 on the 21:30 pass in range IO92 Just a strong carrier on the expected frequency. Lots of Doppler shift. Signal dissapeared at the predicted LOS. Is cute 1.7 in trouble? 73 John G7HIA ------------------------------

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DEXTRE has no emotion!!!
by Luc Leblanc 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

The next generation of astronauts will not have any emotions and no sex. No more love affair to interfere just plain bits and bytes logics. Some pictures and info's In french http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Science-Sante/2007/04/26/005-Dextre-ro… ASC.shtml in english http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/04/26/tech-dextrecsa-20070426.html In croatian. To expell our sins http://www.delnice-crkva.org/raspored_misa.html Nicola had four sons, Nicola, Ivan, Josip and Franjo and they all come from Delnice. They came and choose liberty and freedom of speech.as they where not available up there. They where received arms open and they choose our values the human rights values strongly defended by those who received them. There is only on set of values who respect humanity. Is it too much asking them to pay back in defending theses values. They are international and not restricted by boundaries.. "-" "." Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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How much is enough?.
by John Hackett 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi all. Re: the power debate ... From http://observations.biz ........................................................................................................................................ POWER. How much is enough? . La2qaa Feb 2006. There could be many answers to that question but the correct one regarding amateur satellite communications is ... "Just enough to maintain effective communications". For instance, how many people reduce their power as the satellite they're operating on approaches TCA ... (time of closest approach) ... a good operator will, because they know that the use of excessive power is *not* good for the transponder. Case in point. When AO-7 first comes up over the horizon you'll probably need "X" amount of power to communicate effectively. However, after 10-15 minutes, as the range decreases you'll find that a 3dB ... (50%) ... reduction of power will have no effect whatsoever on the signal. A *VERY* sensitive S-meter might show a difference but your ears certainly won't. Hands up those that actually regulate their power to maintain effective communications ... (No, I didn't think so) ... you should try it sometime, you might get a surprise. By the way, we do know ... (don't we?) ... why most satellites have a beacon?. One of the principal reason, after telemetry, for a beacon is so that you can regulate your power to be consistent with that beacon, it's your reference. No signal should EVER be more powerful than the beacon. Naturally, it will also serve as your propagation reference. ......................................................................................................................................... For those cases where a beacon isn't operative (read AO-7) you can use VE2DWE's sensible suggestion of tuning up and down the band and regulating your power to be consistent with known non-alligator stations. Alligator = all mouth and no ears. Remember the old adage, if you can't hear them you can't work them. A decent receive aerial ought to be the most important part of an amateur satellite station. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Timed Audio
by Colin Hurst 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

I have need for a time programmable, audio recording program, for Windows. Googling presents too may options. Any one able to offer suggestions on a good, reliable and tested system. Thank You. Colin VK5HI

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Re: Timed Audio
by Tony Langdon (ATC) 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

> I have need for a time programmable, audio recording program, > for Windows. Googling presents too may options. Any one able > to offer suggestions on a good, reliable and tested system. > Thank You. This is an area I found Linux to offer more useful options (cron, shell scripts and a command line audio recorder). When I was redording under Windows (which the majority of the sat recordings at http://vkradio.com/sat.html were done with), I was using CoolEdit to schedule the recordings. It worked, but there was a bug in it, which meant it was off by an hour during DST months. Once I sorted that quirk out, I found it useful - I'd set it to record automatically and then wander down the road to work the birds. :) As I said, Linux has a better means of scheduling, and if one is clever, you could use something like Predict to kick the recording off at the right time. :) I used to record a newscast every week, and the system pretty much set the timing for everyone else to follow. :) Even had a facility where I could stop and process a recording with a TV style remote control (thanks to lircd and a home brewed IR receiver) :).

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CAT doppler and the IC-910
by Tim Tuck 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi all, Just wondering what everyone is using for CAT doppler control of their 910's I was using Orbitron and WISPdde but I cant seem to find a happy combination of settings in WISPdde without it throwing an error about being unable to cancel the split command and then it kinda works until I touch the tune knob to track a station and then it all starts to go pear shaped! S/W versions are Orbitron 3.71 and WispDDE 4.3 Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim -- VK2XTT :: BMARC :: WIA :: AMSAT :: QF56if =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta1 (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.90.1/3164 - Thu Apr 26 19:13:10 2007 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta1 (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.90.1/3164 - Thu Apr 26 19:13:10 2007 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org

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Status of Cute 1.7 ?
by john heath 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hi listened for Cute 1.7 on the 21:30 pass in range IO92 Just a strong carrier on the expected frequency. Lots of Doppler shift. Signal dissapeared at the predicted LOS. Is cute 1.7 in trouble? 73 John G7HIA

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FW: Icom PCR-2500
by Tim Tapio 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Is anyone using one of these with it's diversity function for reception of sats? Seems like for those of us that don't want to deal with circularly polarized antennas, we could have two downlink receive antennas at 90 degree angles to one another.... For sat use alone, it's overkill but as an additional duty, would it provide a good receive link for the current "easy sats" as well as for future HEO systems? 73 de Tim, K4SHF FM04

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Any interested in a MODERATED AMSAT-BB?
by Dave hartzell 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hello fellow AMSAT-BBers- I am a firm believer in Human rights and free speech, but I also do not appreciate the politically oriented, off-topic posts that occur frequently on this list. I get enough junk email! As an attempt to keep down the noise, I propose a moderated list. This list will contain FACTUAL information and discussions related to Amateur radio satellites. Posts based on personal political and religious opinions will not be permitted. ALL are welcome to join the list with the agreement that their posts will be subject to moderation. It is even possible that the moderated list can subscribe to the AMSAT-BB list (with the caveat that the AMSAT-BB messages will be moderated before showing up on the new list). If there is enough interest, we can organize this option, and select a GROUP of moderators. Please drop me a note on your opinion of this list. 73s, Dave N0TGD

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Monsieur LaBlanc
by Bryant 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

People- One more time---- Most Hams know the way to deal with someone who is interrupting a repeater with continuous garbage is TO IGNORE him or her. Pretty soon they get bored and leave. Why is it so difficult for so many people on this bb to understand Monsieur Leblanc is playing with you? He apparently loves the attention and isn't reluctant to make some of the inflammatory statements he has posted recently and in the past. JUST DON'T RESPOND TO HIS IRRITATING REMARKS; IGNORE HIM. Sooner or later he will tire of his game. If you are so irritated with is remarks you feel you must respond take a moment and consider the source! [My apologies in advance for the rant and adding to the noise but enough is enough.] Bryant, W2RGG/6 Amsat Member #25030

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Re: Any interested in a MODERATED AMSAT-BB?
by Bruce 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

blocking/banning only works on the current email address. How many addresses does yahoo, hotmail and google allow one person to get? This could change with each posting and would drive moderators crazy. The only solution is personal filtering and that's it. I have not seen a post from luc in months. I only see if someone else replies and I am thinking to add another filter to check the body of a message for luc and delete it as well. 73...bruce -----Original Message----- From: sco(a)sco-inc.com Subj: [amsat-bb] Re: Any interested in a MODERATED AMSAT-BB? Date: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:10 pm Size: 1K To: Dave hartzell <hartzell(a)gmail.com> cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Why can't the administrator of this list just BLOCK/BAN the one individual who is the cause of the problem? I do that all (not all) the time on a list that i administer. Follow my rules or be gone. To me that would be the easiest way to handle this problem. Les W4SCO At 02:48 PM 4/26/2007, you wrote: >Hello fellow AMSAT-BBers- > >I am a firm believer in Human rights and free speech, but I also do >not appreciate the politically oriented, off-topic posts that occur >frequently on this list. I get enough junk email! > >As an attempt to keep down the noise, I propose a moderated list. >This list will contain FACTUAL information and discussions related to >Amateur radio satellites. Posts based on personal political and >religious opinions will not be permitted. ALL are welcome to join the >list with the agreement that their posts will be subject to >moderation. It is even possible that the moderated list can subscribe >to the AMSAT-BB list (with the caveat that the AMSAT-BB messages will >be moderated before showing up on the new list). > >If there is enough interest, we can organize this option, and select a >GROUP of moderators. Please drop me a note on your opinion of this >list. > >73s, >Dave >N0TGD >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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