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Re: Monsieur Leblanc
by Robert Coppock 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

,,,, ,, why go through all the trouble of a moderated BB ? i agree Luc goes too far sometimes, and should send replies direct to the poster, not the whole BB. yet, most of his posts are valuable and intelligent. he is a great sat operator from what i see. i do not want to lose his value to this group, nor do i want to see him shunted to ground. if you knew the /real/ story of Jack G/kg6iro the jammer, you would understand. people are people, and sometimes others are just as much as fault (the 435 idiots in LA) for driving a behavior. lack of communication is the reason for most misunderstandings. a great man named King once said: we must live together as brothers (and sisters) or perish together as fools. i apologize for more off topic QRM, i just like to try and see things from a bird's eye view. peace, 73, lets think about Eagle, etc. and quit this foolishness. kf0g cm97 thank you all for the inspiration and leadership. "-" etc,,,,, ok, Luc ?

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Hotel List
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Following are those staying in the AMSAT Block If you have any questions, please call me at 301-589-6062. If my list is correct, it appears I still have one room available. 1. Rick Hambly & Tom Clark 2. Bill Tynan 3. Gould Smith & Tom Hughes 4. Frank Bauer 5. Jim Sanford 6. Bob McGwier 7. Gunther Meisse 8. Martha & John 9. Chuck Pinkham 10. Alan Biddle 11. Keith Pugh & Doug Q 12. Barry Baines 13. Bob Carpenter 14. Harvey Vordenbaum & Marilyn 15. Dee Interdonato 16. Steve Culp & Larry Koziel 17. Steve Meuse 18. Jeff Davis 19. Drew Glasbrenner 20. JoAnne Maenpaa 21 Kim Hinceman 22 Joe Prokop 23 Jim Randall 24 Steve Belter 25 Michael Young 26 Ed Krohm 27 Ken Shutt 28 Dave Bern 29 Paul Williamson 30 Mal Preston 31 Mark Raptis 32 Howard Long 33 Eric Cottrell 34 Allan Bowker 35 Pat Green 36 Peter Guelzow 73- Martha

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QRP s'il vous plait
by Robert Coppock 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

,,,, ,, holy smoking RF burns. what a shock to wake up on a day off and read the email flames going on here. (i am talking about Luc and his fans). this is all useless energy spent. a not-so-great man named King once said : c-c-can we all just get along ? here is a JOKE JOKE/R JOKE/R JOKE/R do i have to come over there and pummel your fists with my face ?!?!? (do not! use that in a pub) --,,, ,,,-- kf0g cm97 ps. good to hear ve4wsc Winnipeg senior center on ao51 this a.m. i hope i last that long with all the stress going on everywhere.

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Re: [eu-amsat] FO-29 back again ?!?
by SV1BSX 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

... yes Thomas, "damned" incidence ! IO-26 has same frequency & just the same footprint today with FO-29!! I apologize but as I said on my message: "Don't *shoot* me if I'm wrong." DUM SPIRO SPERO (=While I breath, I hope) my friends... 73, Mak SV1BSX ps: tks also to Masa JN1GKZ... he noticed just the same about IO-26. --- Thomas Frey <th.frey(a)tiscalinet.ch> wrote: > Hello Mak > > It could be the BPSK-beacon from IO-26 at the same > frequency ! > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Regards, 73 > Thomas Frey, HB9SKA > > > > SV1BSX schrieb: > > Hi all, > > don't "shoot" me if I'm wrong, but I think FO-29 > > is back! > > > > Today 26 April 2006 between 14:10-14:16 UTC > > (#52.792 orbit) I HEARD (!!!) a continue carrier > in > > FO-29's beacon frequancy ! > > > > I was starting to monitor the frequency with a > delay, > > I forgot this time the pass of Satellite (every > day I > > monitored it.) > > > > Well, the Sat was over Libya (N.Africa), close to > me > > with 32 Degr. Elevation, in very good range for > me. > > > > Looking for any activity I tuned my receiver to > Beacon > > frequancy and... what a surprise! > > > > I received a strong carrier arround 435.799. > > The carrier was following the usual > doppler-shift, so > > after 6 mins dropped-down to 435.788 MHz !! That > > is very normal and confirmed to me the Satellite > > signal! > > > > At this point my QTH has no clear horizon (340 > degr.) > > even if the Satellite was high enough, at 24 degr. > > Elev. So after 1 min I lost the signal completely. > > > > Please keep monitoring the FO-29 and send your > > reports. May be FO-29 is back again ! > > > > 73, Mak SV1BSX > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Thomas Frey, Holzgasse 2, CH-5242 Birr, Tel. + > Fax: 056 444 93 41 > http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/ > Packet Radio (AX.25): HB9SKA @ > HB9PD.CHE.EU > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eu-amsat/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eu-amsat/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:[email protected] > mailto:[email protected] > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: > eu-amsat-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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FO-29 back again ?!?
by SV1BSX 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hi all, don't "shoot" me if I'm wrong, but I think FO-29 is back! Today 26 April 2006 between 14:10-14:16 UTC (#52.792 orbit) I HEARD (!!!) a continue carrier in FO-29's beacon frequancy ! I was starting to monitor the frequency with a delay, I forgot this time the pass of Satellite (every day I monitored it.) Well, the Sat was over Libya (N.Africa), close to me with 32 Degr. Elevation, in very good range for me. Looking for any activity I tuned my receiver to Beacon frequancy and... what a surprise! I received a strong carrier arround 435.799. The carrier was following the usual doppler-shift, so after 6 mins dropped-down to 435.788 MHz !! That is very normal and confirmed to me the Satellite signal! At this point my QTH has no clear horizon (340 degr.) even if the Satellite was high enough, at 24 degr. Elev. So after 1 min I lost the signal completely. Please keep monitoring the FO-29 and send your reports. May be FO-29 is back again ! 73, Mak SV1BSX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Queen Elizabeth II to visit NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center
by Trevor 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2007/queen_visits_goddard.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA --------------- Daily Amateur Radio RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email your news items to: editor at southgatearc.org News On Your Website: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/index.htm News On Your PC: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/newsreader.htm Upload Your News: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news.htm --------------- ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Satellite No. were decided by NORAD
by Mineo Wakita 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

EGYPTSAT-1 31117 07012A SAUDISAT-3 31118 07012B SAUDICOMSAT-7 31119 07012C SL-24 DEB 31120 07012D SAUDICOMSAT-6 31121 07012E POLYSAT CP4 31122 07012F SL-24 R/B 31123 07012G SAUDICOMSAT-5 31124 07012H SAUDICOMSAT-3 31125 07012J MAST 31126 07012K SAUDICOMSAT-4 31127 07012L POLYSAT CP3 31128 07012M LIBERTAD-1 31129 07012N CAPE-1 31130 07012P de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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I: Re: How much is enough?.
by Francesco Grappi 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hi Simon, Thank you for your Ao-51 recording. Of course to have a qso, are required two things ... one station calling and one station answering, if a lot of stations are calling on generic way, is not possible to make a complete qso. Anyway I heard some stations that answered/called to specific call on right way. (We hope that too much coffee was drunk only this morning ..HI !) 73" Francesco IW4DVZ > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]]Per > conto di Simon Brown (HB9DRV) > Inviato: giovedi 26 aprile 2007 10.58 > A: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: How much is enough?. > > > I just recorded a pass of AO-51 from my home in Switzerland, this > is not for > the faint of heart. Equipment this side is TS-2000, SignaLink > USB, crossed > dipoles and an unreleased version of Ham Radio Deluxe. > > Anyway - count the number of callsigns you hear, then the number > of actual > QSO's :-( > > It's not always as bad as this, maybe too much coffee was drunk > before the > satellite sailed overhead. > > The recording is a MP3 in the ZIP file > http://forums.ham-radio.ch/attachment.php?attachmentid=667&d=1177577469 > > Antenna webcam: http://www.hb9drv.ch/webcam.htm > Antenna picture: http://www.hb9drv.ch/PICT0003.JPG > Forums topic: http://forums.ham-radio.ch/showthread.php?t=6860 > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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CAPE-1 CW heard again
by Mineo Wakita 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

CAPE-1 #31129, 435.245 MHz CW every 60 seconds intervals Apr 25, 12:44-12:58 UTC, 2007 Apr 25, 21:44-21:58 JST, 2007 Max ele, 81.4 deg Very rough sound like brooming, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca1.wav http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca1.wav --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 25, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Re: Government control has exceeded ...not really.
by Tom Clark, K3IO 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

In this thread, Tom Davis asked > This raises an interesting possibility. The resolution of a 70cm radar is > rather limited for tracking the smaller but still dangerous debris. The Air > Force might propose a new higher frequency radar for this job. Will they? If > they do, would we support their request in Congress? > > Tom The Air Force (USAF), thru MIT Lincoln Labs (LL), have several higher resolution radars at Millstone Hill, northwest of Boston, near the NH border and at the junction of Westford, Tyngsboro and Groton townships. The facilities there support several DoD radar programs, while the "civilian" side of the house is known as the Haystack Observatory (see http://haystack.edu/ for an overview of the facility). The Haystack Observatory activity on the hill is operated by MIT on behalf of NEROC, a consortium of 8 universities (listed at http://haystack.edu/hay/neroc.html). [For full truth in advertising, I have been a member of Haystack's extended family for many years, and I currently serve as an At-Large member of the NEROC Board of Trustees.] At Millstone Hill, the USAF/LL has the 85' "Millstone" dish used as a high power surveillance radar at 1295 MHz. Some interesting info on DoD's various radars (including both Millstone & Haystack) can be found at http://www.ll.mit.edu/news/journal/pdf/vol12_no2/12_2detectsatellitiesplane…; see Figure 26 for an aerial view of the entire facility. Haystack, Millstone and the smaller 60' "Westford" telescope were originally built ~1960 by LL with USAF funding in order to bounce microwave signals off of a belt of passive, resonant dipole "needles" at a time before there were any active communications satellites.Thousands of fine wire needles were embedded in a block of napthalene (think moth balls) so that they would be slowly and uniformly dispersed throughout the orbit. A prototype of the needle dispenser is near the Oscar-1 model at the Udvar-Hazy museum. Yes, there is an in joke involving "needles in a haystack". As an aside, after the AO-10 and -13 launches and motor burns, NORAD's radars had troubles finding our satellites. With some quick round-trip transponder & Doppler measurements, KA9Q & I were able to give Millstone enough orbital data so that could see our spacecraft at 10,000+ km and provide Keplerian elements until NORAD got their act together. At Haystack, there are two antennas. The larger is 37M (120') in diameter and is under a rigid radome (it looks like a HUGE golf ball on top of the hill!). This antenna has been used for a lot of astronomy programs since the early 1960's. Until about 1972, a high-powered 8 GHz transmitter and traveling-wave maser receiver were available for use as a Planetary Radar to obtain spectacular "photos" of the Moon, Mars, Venus and Mercury; Haystack's Lunar images were invaluable to the Apollo astronauts Now it is equipped with a DoD high power 10 GHz radar transmitter with ~1 GHz bandwidth. The 1 GHz bandwidth lets it be used to take a radar "photograph" of satellites with ~20 cm resolution (comparable to a wavelength at the 1 GHz spanned bandwidth). Beside the "big" golf ball is the smaller HAX (Haystack Auxiliary Radar) housed in a smaller golf ball. HAX operates at Ku-band with its own forty-foot antenna, transmitter, RF hardware and receiver, but it shares control and signal and data processing systems with Haystack. HAX, which began operation in 1993, is the first radar to have a signal bandwidth of 2 GHz, which improves the range resolution to ~12 cm. HAX represents a significant advance in radar imaging capability, producing finer and sharper images of satellites than the Haystack. In addition to its DoD sponsored imaging task, HAX has extremely useful in producing detailed information for NASA on the locations, orbits and characteristics of space debris. For some comments on Haystack & HAX tracking debris see http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/1994/94-136.txt and http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1995/needle-0208.html. The new "big project" at Haystack is the refurbishment (really, nearly a total rebuild) to upgrade the Radar capabilities to a bandwidth ~10 GHz at P-band (90-100 GHz). Information on HUSIR(Haystack Ultra-wide Satellite Imaging Radar) can be found at http://haystack.edu/obs/haystack/LincolnUpgrade.pdf. With this new radar, images can be made with a few cm resolution. So the answer to Tom's question is definitely YES, it is being done. I leave this question to your own imagination: Why would DoD want cm-level "photos" of stuff in orbit? 73 de Tom, K3IO

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Re: Hotel List
by Luc Leblanc 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

On 26 Apr 2007 at 1:16, KA2AEV(a)aol.com wrote: > Geee since you hate the American Ideals so much why the heck would you want > to come to America and visit Dayton you asshole? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Because i still believe some folks down there are still sharing ideals related to human rights, peace and freedom and there is a minority who ruins the American ideals. As my motto says It is not the class of license the amateur holds, but the class of the amateur that holds the license. Just don't know who inspire me when i set it as my motto? "-" "It is not the class of license the amateur holds, but the class of the amateur that holds the license." Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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CAPE-1 over VK
by Colin Hurst 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Signals over VK were very good. Clean crisp CW. Frequency was 4.6 kHz higher. making nominal at 435.2496. Colin VK5HI.

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Libertad 1
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hello, At 3:34 UTC libertad 1 send: 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I24P23R44_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:124AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I24P23R44_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:124AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I24P23R44_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:124AA S9+40 437.405 Mhz HK4MKE

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congrats ISS contact - KM7I
by Robert Coppock 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

HI AMSAT, i listened to amateur radio newsline on the cal-net tonight, and was surprised to hear Zach / KM7I making a contact with Charles Simonyi on the ISS. He was also interviewed by ARNewsline about the QSO. see http://www.arnewsline.org/ report# 1549 April 20, 2007 excellent job Zach, keep up the good work ! 73, Robert kf0g cm97

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Re: Government control has exceeded constitutionallimitations.
by Robert Bruninga 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

> Okay, but that doesn't answer the question on everyone's > mind... "Why now?" My guess would be because of the Chinese Anti-satellite attack that generated hundreds of big chunks and an thousands of tiny bits of debris a month or so ago.. Now they are watching very carefully and to see small stuff, you need to closer into the noise and not have any interference... And when you look closer and see ham signals, then maybe that is why they are now interested? Bob

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CAPE Apr 25, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, and here is the last pass over Europe 21:04 k5usl 3 000000000000 21:06 k5usl 1 9c00d1d200000900 21:09 k5usl 2 ffffe1e0dfe0de02fe 21:11 k5usl 3 0040001a0008 21:14 k5usl 1 9d00e0df000a0064 21:16 k5usl 2 feffeceff3f8e400fc 73, Mike DK3WN

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CP-4 Apr 25, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, and now the last pass over europe: AOS 20:38 20:41 CW = FPEA ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 B9 17 0C 20 35 8E 02 07 04 54 8A D4 E6 C0 8F 04 00 03 74 21 > AB CF CC C1 8B 01 00 09 9A 23 BB C8 BD 90 03 02 03 7E 66 E3 41 > D8 C4 8C 00 00 03 67 9C ED F0 C0 00 05 B8 98 B8 B8 A3 11 11 61 > 0A 03 0A 01 6B 7D 7D B9 B9 83 C7 66 F7 6D FF 25 EC 8B C7 6A 81 > F8 FF FF 6C EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 27 3C 2E 5C CA 20:46 CW = FPEA ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 23 [Payload Bytes: 7] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 BB 17 0C 24 34 D6 02 07 04 51 A2 CB D5 C0 C3 2B 56 02 7F 21 > B7 74 6D C2 97 01 00 09 9E 22 AE BB BD 9C 03 02 04 84 50 F3 41 > E9 C4 CC 02 02 03 6A 9B E7 E6 C0 00 05 B8 A3 B8 B9 AF 10 0E 61 > 0C 0A 03 01 74 86 86 B9 B9 83 C7 6C F4 7D 00 20 EC 8B C7 6A 81 > F5 FF FF 6C EE 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 61 01 25 2A 2B 5C C2 20:51 CW = FPEA not decoded (weak) 20:53 LOS 73, Mike

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Satgate System Closed
by Roy 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

After many years of packet message forwarding via UO-22, GO-32 and AO-51 the Satgate System will close due to a lack of traffic being handled. The total of thirty five worldwide stations in the system a few years ago has dwindled due to this lack of traffic, maintenance problems, change of QTH and Silent Keys. The system was begun long enough ago that I have lost track of the date. It was given birth by David Medley, KI6QE who was in California at the time. The chief Guru and driving force over the past partial decade has been Andrew Sellers, G8TZJ who gets credit for developing the software which permitted the Satgate stations to operate in fully automated mode. Traffic was accepted from the terrestrial packet network using BBS programs like the F6FBB program and routed to the satellites via the WiSP program. It was also downloaded from the satellite and routed into the terrestrial packet network untouched by human hands, all thanks to Andrew. My appreciation goes to David for establishing the Satgate System and to Andrew for his effort in keeping this Network going. Thanks also to the remaining few of the Satgates who will be shutting down. -- 73, Roy -- W0SL

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For Dr. Robert Suding (W0LMD)
by Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC) 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Dear All, First of all, please my apologies for the bandwidth and off-topic posting. I would be glad if anyone could point me to an alternate email address of Dr. Robert Suding, W0LMD. I have attempted to send him a few emails to his email address (as well as one email to his wife's email address) as listed on his website but have failed to get any reply. If anyone knows how to contact Dr. Robert, kindly let me know his contact details off this group, or get him to contact me as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance, and once again I apologize for the bandwidth. 73, Sion Chow Q. C., 9W2QC.

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Fo 29
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Nothing herad from FO-29 UTC 20:08 Max El. 85º HK4MKE

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CAPE is back again
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, just heard over europe very strong signals J from Cape-1 1928 AOS (in darkness) 1929 k5usl 3 000000000000 1930 out of eclips 1931 k5usl 1 9d00dddc000a0063 1933 k5usl 2 ffffeaeee8f0e300fd 1936 k5usl 3 000007000000 1939 k5usl 1 9d00ffff00010000 1940 LOS That means: Beacon 1: 9d00dddc000a0063 Beacon 2: ffffeaeee8f0e300fd Beacon 3: 000007000000 MPB Voltage : 3,14 V HPB Voltage : 0 V Battery 1 Voltage : 4,42 V Battery 2 Voltage : 4,4 V Batt 1 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 1 Current absorb : 10 mA Batt 2 Current gener : 0 mA Batt 2 Current absorb : 99 mA Temp Battery 1 : -1 °C Temp +X face : -1 °C Temp -X face : -22 °C Temp +Y face : -18 °C Temp -Y face : -24 °C Temp +Z face : -16 °C Temp -Z face : -29 °C Temp RF Amp : 0 °C Temp Battery 2 : -3 °C Panel +X face : 0 Panel -X face : 0 Panel +Y face : 7 Panel -Y face : 0 Panel +Z face : 0 Panel -Z face : 0 73, Mike DK3WN

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Re: [eu-amsat] AO-7
by John Hackett 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi MaK, I'm not so sure a BLACK LIST is the way to go, however, we most certainly DO! need to be aware of the "alligator" ... (all mouth and no ears) ... problem on AO-7. I read quite recently a post on the Amsat-bb wherea particular station was "explaining" that one *NEEDS* a linear amplifier to work AO-7. Absolutely *not* true ... (using an aerial !!!!! might have helped.....LA2QAA & GM1SXX). Of course, today's FM'ing on AO-7 *may* have been due to ignorance, not deliberate QRM, we'll never know but we should !!! encourage people to LISTEN before transmitting ... after all, it *IS* full duplex. I'd suggest "education" to be a better alternative than a"black list" ... Alligators will always! be with us with the "mine's bigger than yours!" menality. A re-read of the recommended operating proceedure would do no harm. This applies to *ALL* satellites. PS. LA2QAA and GM1SXX will soon be publishing an article suggesting a way to operate satellites for those amateurs who have severe aerial restrictions or who don't currently own the necessary equipment. I will of course put a link to the article concerned on the EU-Amsat pages. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> ......................................................................................................................................... >From: SV1BSX <sv1bsx(a)yahoo.gr> >Reply-To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >To: eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [eu-amsat] AO-7 >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 03:48:26 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi John, > > well, I suggest to make a BLACK LIST (and publish >that anywhere, like Amsat-BB etc ). > >Why not? > > This way I believe that, every LID(= bad-operator) >will be more careful in order to avoid the LIST! > > After the closed-down of FO-29, we have to care much >more about AO-7's good-health. > >73, Mak SV1BSX > > >--- John Hackett <archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Somebody knocking 10 kinds of the brown > > stuff out of AO-7 this > > morning on orbit 48458. > > > > Careful !! with the power chaps or we'll lose this > > one as well. > > > > The recommended operating proceedure can be found at > > ... > > > > <http://www.planetemily.com/ao7/ao7log.php> Just > > click on "Using AO-7". > > > > The more potential new users who are aware that you > > *DON'T* need 100w to a > > 10 element beam, the more likely it is that AO-7 > > will continue to provide > > excellent analogue signals. > > > > 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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CP-4 Apr 25, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

All, just heard at 1903 - 1914 UTC over Europe 19:06:40 CW = FPEA COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 89 17 0A 39 10 D5 02 07 03 53 A0 B4 BC C0 C8 01 08 03 82 21 > BC 9B 96 C1 C2 04 02 09 AB 22 BE CA BD 92 03 02 04 8F 4D F0 41 > E6 C4 90 00 00 03 74 9A DD E0 C0 00 05 B8 A1 B8 B8 A5 11 0F 61 > 0C 0A 03 01 74 86 86 B9 BA 83 C7 67 F5 B2 FF 5F EC 83 C7 67 81 > F5 AE FF 56 EE 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 61 01 25 2A 2C 5C 9A 19:11:40 CW = FPEA COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Frame Bytes: 115 [Payload Bytes: 99] from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 8B 17 0B 01 0F CD 02 06 03 4D 95 75 81 C0 96 02 00 02 86 21 > AC 62 61 C1 C4 3D 02 08 AC 18 81 89 BD C7 05 04 04 95 55 F4 41 > E5 C4 91 00 00 03 76 9F C2 C5 C0 00 05 B8 9D B8 B8 A5 11 10 61 > 0B 03 0A 01 78 89 87 B9 B9 83 C7 67 F3 A4 FF 60 EC 8B C7 6A 81 > F4 FF FF 57 EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 27 29 2A 5C D4 73, Mike DK3WN

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Amsat @ Friedrichshafen?
by G0MRF＠aol.com 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hello I'm hope to visit the 3 day Friedrichshafen rally in Germany over the weekend of 22nd - 24th June. If I can find somewhere to stay. Can anyone on the list recommend a hotel? - I know it's a bit late, but I'm optimistic! Also, is there any AMSAT participation at Friedrichshafen or is AMSAT more visible at the VHF event in September. Many thanks David G0MRF

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Generous Offer
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

One of our members has donated a banquet ticket to the first NEW member who joins AMSAT at Dayton! 73- Martha

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Government control has exceeded constitutional limitations.
by Ernest Erickson 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Dear members: As we all know, the government has taken over just about every facet of our life, and the military is lock-step with that effort. We need to start forcing a return to total civilian control of this bloated government we are now dealing with, and ensure it operates as 'we' direct it, and not at the whim of a single man (bush). If the government can move in and wipe us off the planet, where does the will of the people fit in here? We own everything the government has, as WE put the government into operation, we darn sure can regain control and demand things change to serve the will of the people far more and far better than it has been doing over these past 20 years. It's high time the government adhere to the will of the people and address OUR concerns first and foremost, and stop usurping power at every turn, as it has been doing solidly since Bush was 'elected'. >From power grabbing to taking away that which it has no right or legal authority to do so, but does regardless because we the sheeple have allowed this gluttonous form of government to take far more than it gives, which directly violates the enumerated powers we originally gave it. Now the military is playing dictator as well? Since when did that branch of civilian control become an arm of the executive or legislative branch? I say shut down those two 'radar' sites and move on, history has shown that the closure of others has not affected this nation whatsoever, and the last remaining pair can't prove a 'need' remains it'ssimply grabbing for more control of our constitutionaly protected powers as a people. It appears that outright disobedience and willful disregard may be required, then forcing the shut down of the last two operational sites as they are onviously not 'strategic' in nature or scope, and that prior shutdowns and closures proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are no longer neccessary as there are very few nations with the capacity or capability to even launch long range ballisitic missiles toward our shores. This is nothing more than sabre rattling to attract attention, and playing the doomsday scare bush so loves to perpetrate upon us as well, given his history for lies and deceipt. With all our money at the government's disposal, you would think that their brilliant minds should be able to think their way through this so-called interference and find a sutiable solution to a simple problem, such as side lobe rejection, additional band pass filtering or whatever is required to minimize or eliminate this 'interference' althogether. Here's a thought..MOVE THE RADAR'S OPERATING BAND UPWARDS! Or maybe even down....to the 300 Mhz. band. Oh wait, that's where the MILITARY operates, we cna't have them move, so shove the hams off instead...NOT! We have every right to have access to spectrum WE own, it's ours in THIS nation, and WE must demand access to it just as much as any branch of government. I know, most U.S hams prefer the wait and see approach, but this is getting ridiculous! Every time the military or government agency hiccups, the hams lose a slice of spectrum, same goes for big business(remember 220?). Last I read the declaration of independence, it was 'WE THE PEOPLE' and not I the government that ran this country! A good house cleaning is needed, from the top on down. Stop allowing the military to dictate policies, it's not legal or allowable, especially in light of the current situation. Also, when was the last time the government actually worked for US? The military doesn't need the entire radio spectrum to work with, give it only what it needs and that's all...THIS FAR, NO FURTHER...THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE! Ernest A. Erickson, KA9UCE Applied Electronic Communications, AEC 10711 East Verbina Lane Florence, AZ. 85232 520.723.0602 aec9823(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Latest Count for Dayton Dinner
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

We now have 156 registered for the AMSAT/TAPR Dayton dinner. If you have not yet done so, please register online at the AMSAT website. Tickets will be available for pickup on Friday, at the AMSAT Booth. 73- Martha

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Re: Re Power Levels Into Satellites
by Andrew Glasbrenner 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

John, Instead of suggesting someone else do it, how about writing it up and sending it in yourself? The Journal takes submissions from anyone who will write... 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: john hackett <la2qaa(a)hotmail.com> >Sent: Apr 25, 2007 10:36 AM >To: Mikehooles(a)btinternet.com >Cc: Amsat-bb(a)amsat.org, eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Re Power Levels Into Satellites > >Hello Mike, > I've been suggesting this for donkey's !!! years ... (12 at >least) ... in my earlier columns in Oscar News, The Amsat Journal, on ><http://www.observations.biz/> and on the various satellite reflectors ... >but so far it's fallen on deaf ears. > >See <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eu-amsat/?yguid=188558692> > >You'd think this would be in the interest of the editors of the Amsat >journals ... but obviously not. > >I hope your posting generates more response than mine have. Perhaps with the >demise of FO-29 more people might start to become aware of the problem. > >73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> >....................................................................................................................................... > >>From: "Mike Hooles" <Mikehooles(a)btinternet.com> >>To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Power Levels Into Satellites >>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:42:42 -0000 >> >>What would be useful for people coming into the satellite world would be a >>series of maximum recommended power levels for each of the satellites >>listed >>on the AMSAT Website, >>e.g. SO50, >> Antenna - Eggbeater - 50 watts up to 30 degrees, 10 watts above. >> 1/4 wave ground plane - 50 watts >> 3 ele. beam >> 10 ele beam >> 12 ele beam >> etc. >>Also, listing modes. >>At the moment, many make the excuse they do not have the time, information, >>nor skills to calculate the levles. They're usually the ones that are 'deaf >>as a post' on the downlink as well >>Then any alligators could be steered to the relevant list. >> >>Best Regards >>Mike G3LGR >>33643 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Spaces http://spaces.msn.com/?mkt=nb-no Vis hvem du er og hva du vil > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Alligators or with poor knowledge (SSB transponders)
by Fernandez Montaña, Juan Antonio 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Speaking through the sats all of us know who puts the best signals because all of us know which is our own signal. The problem is that the alligators usually do not know that they are, so they can not correct its behviour. Some months ago I asked to one of the best signals about their antennas and power out, and of course they were a long crossed yagui and more than 100 watts, when I told him that with less power would be enough to get the same outcome, he answerd that the power out and antennas are not the important thing because the AGC of the satellite will reduce the power in the downlink. Nowadays are there people who think that it is true ??????. Then if there are 10 alligators all of then will put the best signals, no!, all of them will put poor signals in the downlink because the power out is limited. In the same way, the weak signals will be penalized even with only one alligator. If all of us would unplink with enough power to make the contact (not to show off our impresive modulation), the week signals will emerge from the noise and to work this stations will be easier. If our signal is the best in the trasponder we must look at ourself in the mirror, perhaps we could see a big mouth and little ears. All of us have been alligators on some occasions or LEILA never pointed to us in the AO40. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ 73s =============================================================== Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. La información incluida en el presente correo es confidencial sometida a secreto profesional, especialmente en lo que respecta a los datos personales, cuya divulgación está prohibida, en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si usted no lo es y lo ha recibido por error o tiene conocimiento del mismo por cualquier motivo, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por este medio y proceda a destruirlo o borrarlo, y que en todo caso se abstenga de utilizar, reproducir, alterar, archivar o comunicar a terceros el presente mensaje y ficheros anexos, todo ello bajo pena de incurrir en responsabilidades legales. Cualquier opinión contenida en este correo es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente la opinión de Iberdrola. El emisor no garantiza la integridad, rapidez o seguridad del presente correo, ni se responsabiliza de posibles perjuicios derivados de la captura, incorporaciones de virus o cualesquiera otras manipulaciones efectuadas por terceros. This message is intended for the exclusive attention of the addressee(s) indicated. Any information contained herein is strictly confidential and privileged, especially as regards personal data, which must not be disclosed, in accordance with legislation currently in force. If you are not the intended recipient and have received it by mistake or learn about it in any other way, please notify us by return e-mail and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, alteration, filing or sending of this message and/or any attached files to third parties may lead to legal proceedings being taken. Any opinion expressed herein is solely that of the author(s) and does not necessarily represent the opinion of Iberdrola. The sender does not guarantee the integrity, speed or safety of this message, not accept responsibility for any possible damage arising from the interception, incorporation of virus or any other manipulation carried out by third parties. ===============================================================

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CAPE-1 9k6 FSK
by Mineo Wakita 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca1.wav de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Re Power Levels Into Satellites
by Mike Hooles 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

What would be useful for people coming into the satellite world would be a series of maximum recommended power levels for each of the satellites listed on the AMSAT Website, e.g. SO50, Antenna - Eggbeater - 50 watts up to 30 degrees, 10 watts above. 1/4 wave ground plane - 50 watts 3 ele. beam 10 ele beam 12 ele beam etc. Also, listing modes. At the moment, many make the excuse they do not have the time, information, nor skills to calculate the levles. They're usually the ones that are 'deaf as a post' on the downlink as well Then any alligators could be steered to the relevant list. Best Regards Mike G3LGR 33643

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Re: Re Power Levels Into Satellites
by Ricardo Trujillo 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Used to be that the rule of thumb was to keep your signal below the level of the beacon...I don't know if that applies to the current birds. 73, Ricardo, W3/HK4BHA -----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hooles Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:43 AM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Power Levels Into Satellites What would be useful for people coming into the satellite world would be a series of maximum recommended power levels for each of the satellites listed on the AMSAT Website, e.g. SO50, Antenna - Eggbeater - 50 watts up to 30 degrees, 10 watts above. 1/4 wave ground plane - 50 watts 3 ele. beam 10 ele beam 12 ele beam etc. Also, listing modes. At the moment, many make the excuse they do not have the time, information, nor skills to calculate the levles. They're usually the ones that are 'deaf as a post' on the downlink as well Then any alligators could be steered to the relevant list. Best Regards Mike G3LGR 33643 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: CAPE-1 CW heard again (Correction)
by Mineo Wakita 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

CAPE-1 #31129, 435.245 MHz CW every 60 seconds intervals Apr 25, 12:44-12:58 UTC, 2007 Apr 25, 21:44-21:58 JST, 2007 Max ele, 81.4 deg Very rough sound like brooming, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca1.wav http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70425ca2.wav (Correction) --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 25, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Re: Government control has exceeded constitutionallimitations.
by Floyd Rodgers 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Does anyone have any idea as to why only these two sites are still operating? Is that the only directions we have expectations of inbounds or is there some other reason? I would have thought by now we would have several other ways to detect objects.

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CFR 47 Part 97.213 (was Government Control....)
by Joe Leikhim 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

For those who forgot or just don't know..... I was surprised to look at the map and see how much of Florida is included in the resriction. Repeater owners, are you sure your transmitter is only set to 50 watts? I was surprised the Florida Repeater Council webpage didn't seem to mention this. Perhaps I missed it. (f) No station may transmit with a transmitter power exceeding 50 W PEP on the UHF 70 cm band from an area specified in footnote US7 to §2.106 of the FCC Rules, unless expressly authorized by the FCC after mutual agreement, on a case-by-case basis, between the District Director of the applicable field facility and the military area frequency coordinator at the applicable military base. An Earth station or telecommand station, however, may transmit on the 435-438 MHz segment with a maximum of 611 W effective radiated power (1 kW equivalent isotropically radiated power) without the authorization otherwise required. The transmitting antenna elevation angle between the lower half-power (-3 dB relative to the peak or antenna bore sight) point and the horizon must always be greater than 10°. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P

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AO-7
by John Hackett 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi All, Somebody knocking 10 kinds of the brown stuff out of AO-7 this morning on orbit 48458. Careful !! with the power chaps or we'll lose this one as well. The recommended operating proceedure can be found at ... <http://www.planetemily.com/ao7/ao7log.php> Just click on "Using AO-7". The more potential new users who are aware that you *DON'T* need 100w to a 10 element beam, the more likely it is that AO-7 will continue to provide excellent analogue signals. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Re: FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeaterinterference to military radars
by Edward Cole 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Yeah, I thought about that. If your antenna has 20-dB gain, like my eme array has, it has a 3-dB beamwidth of 20-deg. So at elev. 20 I could transmit 10w and only have 5w on the horizon. Restricting my satellite operation above 20-deg. would be needed. If you ran 25w, you would be restricted to above 40-deg. But didn't someone say that most satellite passes are below 40-degrees? How many folks use eme arrays for satellites? Now if you uplink on 5.7 GHz with a 3-foot dish then beamwidth is 4-deg. with 33-dB gain. Your EIRP is 5w x 2000 = 10 kw ...kind of shows the advantages of mw for space comm. I know I have definitely gone off topic...but it gives one something to think about. 73 Ed At 07:36 AM 4/24/2007, Margaret Leber wrote: >On 4/24/07, Edward Cole <kl7uw(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: > >>Build satellites that require no more than 5w EIRP from the ground >>station may be the only answer. > >Or transmit with a more directional antenna aimed skyward...which is >not a practical solution for terrestrial repeaters. > >-- >73 de Maggie K3XS >Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org >Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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DTMF mike for IC-910
by Tim Tuck 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi all, My shiny new 910 arrived yesterday and I've been having all sorts of fun working it out ! In looking at available options one thing that I couldn't find was a DTMF mike. Is there one available either third party or one from a different Icom rig that will work on the 910 ? I though I'd ask here first since there seems be a lot of 910 owners here :) Any info, with product numbers if possible, will be gratefully received. thanks Tim -- VK2XTT :: BMARC :: WIA :: AMSAT :: QF56if =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta1 (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.90.1/3158 - Wed Apr 25 08:36:50 2007 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta1 (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.90.1/3158 - Wed Apr 25 08:36:50 2007 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org

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FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference to military radars
by tjjapha＠earthlink.net 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hi All, Should this ARRL msg. cause us to worry about the future of mode B operations? 73, Tony, N2UN > [Original Message] > From: ARRL Web site <memberlist(a)www.arrl.org> > To: <tjjapha(a)earthlink.net> > Cc: <Subscribed ARRL Members:> > Date: 4/24/2007 12:06:01 AM > Subject: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference to military radars > > SB QST @ ARL $ARLB013 > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference to > military radars > > ZCZC AG13 > QST de W1AW > ARRL Bulletin 13 ARLB013 > From ARRL Headquarters > Newington CT April 23, 2007 > To all radio amateurs > > SB QST ARL ARLB013 > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference to > military radars > > The ARRL has been working with the US Department of Defense to > develop a plan to mitigate alleged interference from 70 cm ham radio > repeaters to military radar systems on both coasts. Citing an > increasing number of interference complaints, the US Air Force has > asked the FCC to order dozens of repeater systems to either mitigate > interference to the ''PAVE PAWS'' radars in Massachusetts and > California or shut down. Amateur Radio is secondary to government > users from 420 to 450 MHz and must not interfere with primary users. > The Commission has not yet responded. ARRL Regulatory Information > Specialist Dan Henderson, N1ND, stresses that the Defense Department > acknowledges Amateur Radio's value in disasters and emergencies and > is being extremely cooperative, and a wholesale shutdown of US 70 cm > Amateur Radio activity is not in the offing. > > ''The ARRL Lab is working up calculations on each repeater system the > Air Force has identified to determine where interference-mitigation > techniques offer a reasonable chance of keeping the repeater on the > air,'' Henderson says. > > The situation affects 15 repeaters in the vicinity of Otis Air Force > Base on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and more than 100 repeaters within > some 140 miles of Beale Air Force Base near Sacramento, California. > > A US Air Force contractor identified the problematic repeater > systems last summer, but the situation didn't become critical until > the Air Force contacted the FCC a month ago. ARRL officials met with > Defense Department representatives in late March to discuss alleged > interference to the PAVE PAWS radar sites. Henderson has contacted > Amateur Radio frequency coordinators in both affected areas. > > PAVE PAWS is a missile and satellite detection and tracking system, > and its facilities occupy essentially the entire 70 cm band -- one > factor that makes mitigation difficult. As a ''first step,'' however, > the ARRL is recommending that all affected repeater owners reduce > power -- possibly to as little as 5 W effective radiated power > (ERP). > > ''We understand the difficulty this may cause to owners and users,'' > Henderson said, ''but the alternative to operating with a smaller > coverage area may be not operating at all.'' > > Henderson says the League is still seeking further information on > the problem. ''Until the Defense Department accepts a mitigation > plan, repeater owners should exercise patience,'' he cautioned. > > Contact Dan Henderson, N1ND, n1nd(a)arrl.org, or 860-594-0236, with > specific questions or issues associated with this situation. > NNNN > /EX

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Re: FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeaterinterference to military radars
by Tony Langdon 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

At 03:20 AM 4/25/2007, Nate Duehr wrote: >Proof positive that a reasonable solution can probably be found. > >The Amateur allocation in the UHF band is a Primary allocation of the >US Military in the US, with the specific wording in the NTIA >documentation stating the military is to "treat Amateurs as Primary". Well, the military over here as well have certainly been more of a friend than a foe. Our biggest dangers these days are not from the military, but from unlicensed gadgets, which have been approved for use in the 433 - 434 MHz band. What made this a really nasty problem is that the authorities put few limits on the emission types, leading to cordless headphones, crane controllers (nasty potential for OHS implications here) and other high duty cycle devices on the band. Wlesr, this happens to be about 80-90% of the available repeater inputs. Because of the duty cycle, CTCSS is not a solution, all you end up is a bunch of "deaf" repeaters that takes a kW to open. Had the devices been limited to low duty cycle applications, CTCSS would have been enough to prevent the occasional "blip" from someone's wireless doorbell opening up the repeater. Oh, and as for satellites, well some of the cheap junk could drift into the 435 MHz region. I already know of some cordless headphones that drift as high as 434.900, which is outside the allocated band for these devices. These get into a repeater which was moved outside the affected band to get away from the problem. Oh, and interference from these devices "does not exist", as far as the legislation goes. It's actually written into the LCD (confirmed, I have read the clause myself). The flip side of this madness is it is nigh on impossible to find a wireless doorbell or weather station that will work reliable in my environment. They use SAW filters in their receivers, and these get severely desensed by ANY 70cm transmissions, even the repeater output, 5 MHz away. The older 304 MHz stuff is much better for my uses. :) Some new inputs (with an odd 5.4 MHz split) have been opened up to try and alleviate the problem with the repeaters, but it's a hack to work around the mess the authorities have given us. Give me the military anytime to share the band with, they play ball much nicer than the rabble and the profiteers that feed them. :) 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com

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ANSAT-NA VS MILITARY cooperation
by Luc Leblanc 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Just to remind you as i already wrote...in the past any military VS AMSAT'S should be strongly condemned and even more by AMSAT-NA BOD. Theses "cadets" are no learning to play chess and this " along with its primary science mission" take all his sense in the scope of the excerpt below! As memory tends to forget in time it helps to remind those with a selective one... On 11 Feb 2007 at 23:33, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > There are several new pieces of software that need to be uploaded and tested > this week on AO-51. Additionally the S band transmitter will be on for an as > of yet undetermined number of daylight passes over the Air Force Academy > ground station in Colorado Springs, Colorado. These passes will be used for > the ground station checkout on S band prior to the launch of Falconsat-3 > satellite, now scheduled in late February. FS-3 carries an amateur payload > along with its primary science mission. 2003 Annual Session > 156 STCMT 03 E - WEAPONS IN SPACE AND GLOBAL SECURITY 156 STCMT 03 E - WEAPONS IN SPACE AND GLOBAL SECURITY III. POSSIBLE THREATS TO SPACE-BASED ASSETS 30. The availability of tracking data by amateur satellite observers from all over the world, who post their findings on the Internet, facilitates the tracking and identifying of satellites in low orbit. The increased sophistication of technologies such as radar, optical telescopes and passive radio frequency receivers makes it easier to track satellites in LEO. d.Micro-satellites (of less than 100 kg) and nano-satellites (of less than ten kg) that use lightweight composite materials and high-speed computer chips. These kinds of satellites could be used as secondary payloads of a primary space vehicle to covertly encounter space assets and disrupt or destroy them. 37. As Donald Rumsfeld became Defense Secretary in the newly elected Bush administration, the DOD started to implement some of the report's recommendations. In May 2001, the Defense Secretary declared, "There is no question that the use of land and sea and air and space are all things that need to be considered if one is looking at the best way to provide the kind of security from ballistic missiles that is desirable for the United States and for our friends and Allies." In July 2001, General Michael Ryan, the US Air Force chief of staff, endorsed the deployment of space-based weapons to protect US assets in space. He also predicted that by 2020 the United States will be able to shoot down other countries' orbiting spacecraft. 38. In October 2002, the US Space Command was merged with the US Strategic Command into an organisation that now controls all U.S. nuclear and space forces. "The missions of SpaceCom and StratCom have evolved to the point where merging the two into a single entity will eliminate redundancies in the command structure and streamline the decision-making process", Donald Rumsfeld said at the time. One of the largest components of the new StratCom - with 40,000 airmen and civilians - is Air Force Space Command, headquartered at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The Space Command's Strategic Master Plan calls for the United States, by 2025, to be able to strike any target in the world from space within minutes, to protect US systems in space from hostile forces, and to deny space access to potential enemies. "Potential enemies" As far as we are the US will soon consider the rest of the world as "potential enemies" I was taking my lunch last week in the Philipsburg area near the border and i have a nice conversation with a US national guard pilot based in Vermont who told me very interesting comment about the "mood" in the forces who is just the same it was in the Vietnam era... He told me he was sick and disgusted to always have to take side in defending the undefendable as soon as he goes out his country... As many of our brief discussion is "highly" OT he also told me many are "going north" to avoid serving overseas but he refused to clarify what he's meaning about overseas... but he smile... DAYTON 2007 Too bad AMSAT-NA ANS was again trailing on this one "AGAIN" but here it is... and you will have some matter to discuss in May too. Ham-astronaut to be league's honored guest at ARRL EXPO 2007 in Dayton Reprinted from The ARRL Letter, Vol 26, No 13 (Mar 30, 2007) NASA Space shuttle veteran and International Space Station Expedition 12 commander Bill McArthur, KC5ACR, will be the League's guest at Dayton Hamvention <http://www.hamvention.org> 2007 in May. Hamvention takes place this year Friday through Sunday, May 18-20, at Hara Arena near Dayton, Ohio. The first astronaut to work all states from space, McArthur has been applauded for inspiring others through his ham radio activities from NA1SS. He'll be featured speaker during a closed ARRL reception Thursday, May 17, and will be on hand all day Friday, May 18, to greet and talk with visitors to ARRL EXPO 2007 at Hamvention <http://www.arrl.org/announce/nc/2007/>. ARRL also anticipates that McArthur will be able to lead an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) forum at Dayton Hamvention for first-day visitors. "-" "A "Fidel" AMSAT observer." Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE

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Libertad-1 Apr 24, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, Just heard Libertad-1 over europe at 22:58:10 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O23C23I23P22R-2_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:107AA and at 20:26:25 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 73, Mike DK3WN ____________ Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit Version: AVK 17.4185 from 23.04.2007 Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com

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CP-4 Apr 22, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, CP-4 NORAD #31122 frequency nominal 437.322 MHz USB 22:43:40 FPEA COMM A 22:48:35 FPEA COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 111 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 5F 0F 21 36 92 02 07 04 5C 9C D2 C0 93 03 00 03 6A BD D0 21 > CE C1 8F 01 00 09 90 2E B9 C5 BD 94 03 02 03 77 53 DE D3 C4 41 > 90 01 00 03 60 93 E9 C0 00 05 B8 96 B8 B8 A7 11 0B 03 09 01 61 > 6A 7B 7C B9 B9 83 C7 68 F7 B1 FF E7 EC 83 C7 68 F8 C1 FF E5 81 > EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 28 2D 2E 5C BC ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 110 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 62 0F 27 34 9D 02 06 04 54 A4 95 C0 C7 07 06 03 C0 92 8D 21 > C1 C5 97 65 09 A2 23 86 88 BE 9D 03 02 04 80 4A F7 EC C5 9A 41 > 00 00 03 67 99 E1 C0 00 05 B8 A3 B8 B9 AF 11 11 0E 03 01 77 61 > 89 88 B9 B9 83 C7 6C F4 4D 00 E2 EC 83 C7 6C F4 16 00 E1 EE 81 > 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5E 01 25 29 2B 5C 99 20:03:35 FPFA COMM A 20:08:34 FPEA COMM B 20:13:31 FPEA COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 112 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 2D 0F 0B 36 12 92 02 07 04 5F A2 CD C0 93 03 00 03 6E C1 21 > C4 C1 C1 8F 01 00 09 95 30 B7 C5 BD 94 03 02 03 7B 4D D8 CE 41 > C4 91 01 00 03 64 8F DE C0 00 05 B8 91 B8 B8 A7 10 0E 0C 03 61 > 0B 01 67 78 78 B9 B9 83 C7 68 F8 C4 FF D3 EC 83 C7 68 F9 D8 81 > FF E7 EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 28 2E 2E C0 Is anybody there who can explain the telemetry ? Thanks and 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad-1 Apr 24, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

All, just heard Libertad-1 over europe at 20:26:25 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:106AA 73, Mike DK3WN

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CAPE-1 Status
by Jonathan Wagner 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Well, it looks like CAPE-1 has went back to sleep. During safe modes it may only transmit CW once every 10 minutes, however for the first 25 boot cycles it will wait 15 minutes before starting to transmit. So, we'll see what happens. If anyone available during CAPE's passes that can listen for the CW beacon on SSB at 435.245 MHz +/- doppler, please do so and report any telemetry available either here on the amsat-bb list or directly to me at jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net We don't currently have enough data to determine what is causing the sat to behave like this, but we think it may be battery related. We just don't have enough data. We especially need data from non-US passes. Our data from Mike, DK3WN, DTUsat team and all the others in Europe, Japan and New Zealand has been invaluable. You can also send any recorded audio files to the jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net Thanks and 73 to the group -- Jonathan Wagner

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RAFT Packet Operator assistance needed
by Robert Bruninga 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

We need AMSAT operator help with the RAFT satellite Test. We need somone with a 2m beam and familiarity with packet that lives in the Southern USA from Arizona to Georgia (AZ, NM, TX, OK, MS, ALA, GA). RAFT is at its mission life time half-way point, and we have not been able to find anyone in the above footprint to help us conduct the primary mission which was for the satellite to detect its own passing through the DOD's radar fence. When it flies through the North American Space-Object fan beam, we should hear about 1 second tone that anyone can hear on the downlink. Due to its low orbit and small footprint, turning on the Radar Transponder can only be done in the shared footprint between the radar transmitter in North Texas and the command station. The ideal command station has these atributes: 1) Lives in AZ, NM, TX, OK, AK, LA, MS, AL, GA, W.FLA 2) A reasonable 2m beam for ops on 145.825 3) A packet TNC 4) A familiarity with dumb-terminal TNC operations such as A. Connections, Converse, UNPROTO, etc B. Remote sysop logon to a Kantronics TNC The objective of these southern command stations is to logon, send the command to activate the RAFT Radar receiver for 1 minute in anticipation of passing through the fence. Then hopefully recording any audio heard on the downlink (145.825). Of course, once the radar receiver is on, everyone in the footprint should be able to hear it. For info, see the ANDE-RAFT operations page: http://eng.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/ande-raft-ops.html Several AMSAT hams built this tiny Radar receiver as a possible common device for all future HAMsats, and we would like to get feedback on its performance. But they all live up North. If you have a beam and familiarity with TNC's please let us know. Bob, WB4APR. US Naval Academy Satellite Lab _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeaterinterference to military radars
by joseph Murray 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hi Ed Somehow I feel as thought I have been left out of something. Pave Paws has been around a very very long time. 70cm use by Hams has like wise been there maybe longer. Living in the center of the country and not having to concern myself with the 70cm restriction to Ham use within a given distance of certain Military installations I have no idea what changed. Something changed. Do you know what that might be? The attention appears to be toward 70cm repeaters Was no one paying any attention to the 70cm restrictions when validating the 70 cm repeater installations? Are these repeater netted over the Internet? There is more that just PAVE PAWS to consider if my memory serves. Hams need the real truth about what caused the current problem. I do not , am not able to get that from all I have seen on the BB. Can you add anything Ed? 37 years in DOD testing makes me sensitive in many ways . Thanks Ed 73's Joe K0VTY On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:48:20 -0800 Edward Cole <kl7uw(a)acsalaska.net> writes: > Tony, Roger, etal: > > A "slice" will not be a solution to PAVE PAWS which is broadband > covering the whole spectrum (420-450 MHz). There already exists > restricted use of 70cm within range of selected military > installations in FCC regs. Those unlucky to live within the > affected > areas cited will have no recourse but to restrict operations > (however > that takes effect). Voluntary negotiations may lead to some time > slots of permission. Otherwise, we get "regulated" off the band. > > Build satellites that require no more than 5w EIRP from the ground > station may be the only answer. OR move to another uplink > band. That's a possibility that may be the "hard news". > > UN-Licensed users are more the long-term problem facing ham radio, > than the military user...in my opinion. Ham radio has a long > history > of sharing allocations with the military. The short history of > "part-15" and their "ilk" is not pretty. > > So now its use it AND lose it...can't win! > good luck to us? > > 73 Ed - KL7UW > > At 05:23 AM 4/24/2007, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > >Tony wondered: > > > >"Should this ARRL msg. cause us to worry..." > > > >Yes... The key is that in the US we are secondary users in the 420 > - 450 mHz > >band and while there are only 2 PAVE PAWS sites active, another > interesting > >"land grab" can be found by googling wind shear radar and 449.000 > mHz. > > > >We are at the whim of the government with no primary allocation, > for example > >there is this "grab" -- "Tire Pressure Monitoring System with > Frequency > >Range of 433.92MHz." > > > >An effort for Amateur primary allocation of even a "slice" would be > prudent. > > > >Roger > >WA1KAT > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <tjjapha(a)earthlink.net> > >To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:30 AM > >Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate > >repeaterinterference to military radars > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > Should this ARRL msg. cause us to worry about the future of mode > B > > > operations? > > > 73, > > > Tony, N2UN > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: ARRL Web site <memberlist(a)www.arrl.org> > > > > To: <tjjapha(a)earthlink.net> > > > > Cc: <Subscribed ARRL Members:> > > > > Date: 4/24/2007 12:06:01 AM > > > > Subject: ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater > interference to > > > military radars > > > > > > > > SB QST @ ARL $ARLB013 > > > > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference > to > > > > military radars > > > > > > > > ZCZC AG13 > > > > QST de W1AW > > > > ARRL Bulletin 13 ARLB013 > > > > From ARRL Headquarters > > > > Newington CT April 23, 2007 > > > > To all radio amateurs > > > > > > > > SB QST ARL ARLB013 > > > > ARLB013 ARRL aiding effort to mitigate repeater interference > to > > > > military radars > > > > > > > > The ARRL has been working with the US Department of Defense > to > > > > develop a plan to mitigate alleged interference from 70 cm ham > radio > > > > repeaters to military radar systems on both coasts. Citing an > > > > increasing number of interference complaints, the US Air Force > has > > > > asked the FCC to order dozens of repeater systems to either > mitigate > > > > interference to the ''PAVE PAWS'' radars in Massachusetts and > > > > California or shut down. Amateur Radio is secondary to > government > > > > users from 420 to 450 MHz and must not interfere with primary > users. > > > > The Commission has not yet responded. ARRL Regulatory > Information > > > > Specialist Dan Henderson, N1ND, stresses that the Defense > Department > > > > acknowledges Amateur Radio's value in disasters and > emergencies and > > > > is being extremely cooperative, and a wholesale shutdown of US > 70 cm > > > > Amateur Radio activity is not in the offing. > > > > > > > > ''The ARRL Lab is working up calculations on each repeater > system the > > > > Air Force has identified to determine where > interference-mitigation > > > > techniques offer a reasonable chance of keeping the repeater > on the > > > > air,'' Henderson says. > > > > > > > > The situation affects 15 repeaters in the vicinity of Otis Air > Force > > > > Base on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and more than 100 repeaters > within > > > > some 140 miles of Beale Air Force Base near Sacramento, > California. > > > > > > > > A US Air Force contractor identified the problematic repeater > > > > systems last summer, but the situation didn't become critical > until > > > > the Air Force contacted the FCC a month ago. ARRL officials > met with > > > > Defense Department representatives in late March to discuss > alleged > > > > interference to the PAVE PAWS radar sites. Henderson has > contacted > > > > Amateur Radio frequency coordinators in both affected areas. > > > > > > > > PAVE PAWS is a missile and satellite detection and tracking > system, > > > > and its facilities occupy essentially the entire 70 cm band -- > one > > > > factor that makes mitigation difficult. As a ''first step,'' > however, > > > > the ARRL is recommending that all affected repeater owners > reduce > > > > power -- possibly to as little as 5 W effective radiated > power > > > > (ERP). > > > > > > > > ''We understand the difficulty this may cause to owners and > users,'' > > > > Henderson said, ''but the alternative to operating with a > smaller > > > > coverage area may be not operating at all.'' > > > > > > > > Henderson says the League is still seeking further information > on > > > > the problem. ''Until the Defense Department accepts a > mitigation > > > > plan, repeater owners should exercise patience,'' he > cautioned. > > > > > > > > Contact Dan Henderson, N1ND, n1nd(a)arrl.org, or 860-594-0236, > with > > > > specific questions or issues associated with this situation. > > > > NNNN > > > > /EX > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > > > Subscription settings: > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Ed - KL7UW > ====================================== > BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com > 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w > DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com > ====================================== > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >

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fo-29 status
by nader omer 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

nothing heard from FO-29 today 24-04-2007 @ 1520 qth - ll34kp very sad :( Nader st2nh - hz1nh --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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SSETI-ESEO Launch Date
by Trevor 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

SSETI-ESEO Launch Date The launch date for SSETI-ESEO, the ESA led student satellite project intended for Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO), has been delayed by approximately one year. It had originally been hoped that this satellite would be a secondary payload on Arianespace launch from Kourou in late Nov 2008 but it now seems that the expected secondary payload opportunity will not be available. Although this delay is regrettable it will give the various teams much needed extra time to finalise and test their systems. A BBM - "Breadboard model" of the satellite systems and payloads is being produced at the ESTEC facility in the Netherlands for testing purposes. This will commence operations during this summer. Work continues to develop the AMSAT-UK communications package that is planned to provide a 435 to 2400 MHz (Mode U/S) linear transponder using both analogue and DSP based systems. It will additionally downlink telemetry at 400 bps and provide command and ranging facilities. Full details of the project are available at http://www.uk.amsat.org/ click on "News Archive" and then "SSETI". There will be a presentation on SSETI-ESEO at the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium which is being held at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 20th to Sunday 22nd July. This event is open to all Amateurs and SWL's and there will be a special beginners session aimed at newcomers to the exciting world on Amateur Satellite operating. For further information see http://www.uk.amsat.org/colloquium AMSAT-UK produces a newsletter Oscar News packed full of Amateur Satellite information. For membership details contact the secretary Jim Heck G3WGM Tel: +44 (0)1258 453959 Email: g3wgm(a)amsat.org Website: http://www.uk.amsat.org/ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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FM on VO-52 or others
by Thomas McGrane 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hello to bruce and the list, very thoughtful post bruce. I would like to add to the discussion. Using FM on VO-52 is not ignorant. We assume the world is as affluent as us but even here in north america, there are many who do not have SSB equipment as evidenced by the popularity of ao-51 and the lack of operators on VO-52 I tried FM on VO-52 last winter after my 2 meter all-mode gave up. Either I didnt find my signal on the downlink or it was too weak for me to hear. I tried once and that was that. Not only do I think both modes should be supported, but I think the satellites should be made more powerful for use by a larger number of amateurs with readily avilable or common equipment. The amsat organisations should work to satisfy a larger segment of the amateur community around the world. As it is now, I say hello to the same people every time I get on for the last 2 years. I know now, its always a good morning, hi hi. Amsat worldwide should try to expand the number of users. When I make my meager donations, they are for many future users, not just the members. I read about KIWI and I am looking forward to it very much. It will be both FM and SSB, very logical. Thanks for the soapbox, pat n2oeq

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Re: ANSAT-NA VS MILITARY cooperation
by Margaret Leber 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

On 4/24/07, Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(a)videotron.ca> wrote: > Just to remind you as i already wrote...in the past any military VS AMSAT'S > should be strongly condemned and even more by AMSAT-NA BOD. Let us know when you renounce your citizenship and move to a country that doesn't have a military, we can use another DX entity. > "A "Fidel" AMSAT observer." Cuba doesn't count. -- 73 de Maggie K3XS Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280

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Re: FM on VO-52 or others
by Edward Cole 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

At 06:03 PM 4/23/2007, Patrick Green wrote: >With FO-29 having trouble, I'm sure that SSB will pickup on this bird. I >wonder why the lack of popularity? I thought everyone liked Mode B. > >73 de Pat --- KA9SCF. >Amsat #35741 Good question. I'm guessing that what folks are saying when they say the like mode-B is they like the Heo orbiting mode-B satellite. The Heo provides a bigger footprint for DX and the high orbit exhibits slower changing Doppler and long passes. Just a guess. I have been reluctant to get on AO-52 mainly from the high angle and Doppler rates. Once my antennas are back up and I have full auto-track/tuning that might change. At least auto-tracking would make QSO's less stressful. Satellite operation is my "fun" mode; for a technical challenge I do eme and mw. 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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Libertad-1 Telemetry
by Colin Hurst 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Signal copied 23rd April 14:08:38 UTC 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[23:38:38] A00O44C11I11P25R11_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:88_AA 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[23:38:40] A00O44C11I11P25R11_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:88_AA 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[23:38:43] A00O44C11I11P25R11_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:88_AA 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[23:38:45] A00O44C11I11P25R11_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:88_AA 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[23:38:47] A00O44C11I11P25R11_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:88_AA Signal copied 24th April 01:32:33 UTC 2:Fm 5K3L To 5K3USA Via BEACON <UI pid=F0 Len=40 >[10:52:33] A00O19C18I19P13R10_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:95_AA Colin Hurst VK5HI.

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Wok for studio transmitter link antenna
by Kyle Yoksh 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Not exactly on-topic, but some of you may appreciate this, as I did. The story doesn't mention if this guy is a ham, but I suspect he may be.. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=000BB3C8-B910-15DC-9E5E8… 73, Kyle Yoksh KØKN Olathe, Kansas Amsat # 35249

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VO-52, Linear transponders and FM
by Bruce Robertson 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Gang: The conference for VO-52's second anniversary has on its agenda a discussion about design of a Hamsat2. This good news got me thinking about the innovative aspects of Hamsat: principal among these is that it has succeeded in using convention to determine the mode of operation. What I means by this is that, as I understand it, in regions of the world where SSB rigs might be in low supply, it is common practice, encouraged by the satellite's operators, to use its linear transponders to relay an FM signal. Here in N.A., and Europe, we use VO-52 nearly exclusively in CW/SSB. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but I'd say that in this neck of the woods, this approach has worked very well. I've only once or twice heard an FM signal on VO-52, no more often than other birds, and rare enough that I can assume it was by accident or ignorance. Given VO-52 success in this score, I wonder: a) if the operators of other, future, LEO linear birds should likewise permit their use in FM over appropriate regions of the globe. Since FM is such a high duty cycle mode, I suspect usage and battery load statistics from Hamsat might be helpful in guiding others' choices in this matter. b) what advantage there is in launching a FM-only bird when a linear one can be used in both modes. I assume there must be reasons of efficiency, etc. since the designers of KiwiSat, for example, are making circuitry for both modes. 73, Bruce VE9QRP

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Re: FM on VO-52 or others
by Tony Langdon (ATC) 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

> If you don't TX with the lower power, you basically turn the > linear transponder into a single channel FM satellite and no > one else can use it. Maybe a job for a future SDX to sort out. :)

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CAPE and VO-52 [Fwd: Re: CW telemetry]
by Jonathan Wagner 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

I thought this would interest the list considering the recent conversation on VO-52 and FM vs. SSB modes. After CAPE-1 disappeared for a couple days, it decided to make it's re-debut on VO-52's transponder. They just happened to be in view as CAPE-1 came out of eclipse and decided to wake up again. Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: CW telemetry Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:15:35 +0200 From: OZ1MY <oz1my(a)privat.dk> To: Jussi Liukkonen <jussi.liukkonen(a)pp.inet.fi>, Graham Shirville <g.shirville(a)btinternet.com> CC: Jonathan Wagner <jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net> References: <007d01c776be$5ce19560$2301a8c0@jussin> <000601c77941$83727520$6601a8c0(a)opasia.dk> <004201c779f8$96443050$0301a8c0(a)allgood.local> <000801c785c5$34a182c0$2301a8c0@jussin> Hi Jussi, That sounds interesting :-) CAPE1 - one of the cubesats just launched April 17th transmit at 435.245 MHz with CW (HEX data). We have not heard it since April 18th ? I just checked and they can "see" one another. 73 OZ1MY Ib ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jussi Liukkonen" <jussi.liukkonen(a)pp.inet.fi> To: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville(a)btinternet.com>; "OZ1MY" <oz1my(a)privat.dk> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: CW telemetry > Lo Graham and Ib! > > Was just listening at VO-52 (23rd April 1620z). > > At 145.900 I could hear for about 1 minute cw telemetry. It was of the type > that FO-series satellites uses (FO-20, FO-29). > > I was too amazed to write it down except for a short period which said: > > 055FF00000 > > Is there any satellite that sends cw telemetry on VO-52's uplink (435.250 > plus minus doppler)? > > Or has some satellite broken down and started sending on wrong freq? Or has > VO-52 started sending cw telemetry? > > cheers, Jussi OH5LK > >

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Newspaper Article
by H.N.Vordenbaum 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Here's a link to a nice article about KH6YY doing moon-bounce: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007704210343 73, K5HV

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Re: FM on VO-52 or others
by Anthony Monteiro 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

At 09:22 PM 4/23/2007, Tony Langdon (ATC) wrote: > > If you don't TX with the lower power, you basically turn the > > linear transponder into a single channel FM satellite and no > > one else can use it. > >Maybe a job for a future SDX to sort out. :) Yes. That would be pretty nice wouldn't it? If the SDX would just control the TX power on each signal independently, you would be able to run FM, RTTY, SSTV and all the other high-duty cycle modes without causing a problem. We can hope... 73, Tony AA2TX

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AIDC 3731 Downconverter for sale
by Michael Tondee 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

I'm having to cut back my satellite activity for awhile and need to generate some quick cash. I have an a K5GNA AIDC 3731 downconverter with 123Mhz IF output plus the DC power inserter and an attenuator for sale. This unit has the built on dipole on it. The only thing I do not have is the corner reflector. Everything is in good working order. I'm willing to part with the all the above listed items for 60.00 shipped priority mail anywhere in the lower 48 states. Contact me off list if interested. Tnx and 73, Michael, W4HIJ

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Re: FM on VO-52 or others
by Anthony Monteiro 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

At 05:16 PM 4/23/2007, Thomas McGrane wrote: >... >Using FM on VO-52 is not ignorant. We assume the world is as affluent as us >but even here in north america, there are many who do not have SSB equipment >as evidenced by the popularity of ao-51 and the lack of operators on VO-52 >... Hi Pat, The issue with FM on a linear transponder is that to peacefully coexist with SSB you would need to transmit around 10 dB lower EIRP in order to have about the same load on the satellite transmitter. And since it takes a few extra dB to decode FM, you would need to use a much bigger receive antenna to make up for the much lower signal levels. If you don't TX with the lower power, you basically turn the linear transponder into a single channel FM satellite and no one else can use it. However, your point about the lack of activity on VO-52 is well taken. Other than on field day, I hardly ever hear anyone using it so it might as well be a single channel FM bird. 73, Tony AA2TX

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P3E launch date
by Joseph Holman 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Is there a more precise launch date for P3E other than the "2007-2008 timeframe" the vehicle's web page mentions? Joe, AD7D.

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K3SZH heard via AO-7 in JN70ES
by i8cvs 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi Josef, K3SZH I have just heard your CQ call in SSB 59 via AO-07 during orbit 48432 at 21:14 UTC here in JN70ES I was just closing my activity via VO-52 and I got not the time to change my uplink frequency to call you. If you arrange a good orbit when you are available we can try SSB between FN10OG and JN70ES Please let me know off list 73" de i8CVS Domenico

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Re: CAPE's Back
by Mike Rupprecht 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Jonathan, beacon 1 in the last pass started 19:37:34 UTC. And now: AOS 2106 UTC (CAPE in darkness) 21:07:58 k5usl 2 00 ff e3 e1 e3 e1 e1 04 00 21:10:24 k5usl 3 00 00 00 00 00 00 21:12 UTC - end of eclipse - 21:12:50 k5usl 1 9d 00 de dc 00 0a 00 68 21:15:17 k5usl 2 00 ff ea ed e8 ee e3 01 fd 21:17:44 k5usl 3 00 05 00 00 00 02 21:20:12 k5usl 1 9d 00 ff ff 00 00 00 00 LOS 2121 UTC 73, Mike DK3WN -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jonathan Wagner [mailto:[email protected]] Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 23:09 An: Mike Rupprecht Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [amsat-bb] CAPE's Back Thanks, Do you know what time the beacon 1 started? We were thinking that the batteries may have been gone due to overcharging. But it looks like they are taking in some current? I hope you're copying your next pass. I think the sat may be in complete eclipse and that will help us determine whether we are solar only or not. Thanks again, Jonathan Wagner Mike Rupprecht wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > CAPE was in darkness until 1933UTC. > > 73, Mike > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jonathan Wagner [mailto:[email protected]] > Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 22:56 > An: Mike Rupprecht > Cc: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] CAPE's Back > > Thanks for the report Mike! We are very excited here and your data just > adds to the excitement. Judging by SatPC it looks like the satellite > may have been in eclipse. Is this true? > > Jonathan Wagner > > > > > Mike Rupprecht wrote: > >> Jonathan, >> >> wow, very strong signal!!! >> >> AOS 1930 >> LOS 1942 >> Keps for 21120 matches perfect >> >> K5usl 2 ff ff e1 e0 e1 e1 df 02 ff >> K5usl 3 1c 00 00 04 3f 00 >> K5usl 1 9d 00 e0 de 00 0a 00 61 >> K5usl 2 ff ff f3 ed f5 f8 e5 00 fd >> >> Did anybody decode the 9k6 part of the beacon? >> I switched to FM mode during this part and the DCE LED lit but could not >> > see > >> any data. >> >> 73, Mike >> DK3WN >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Jonathan Wagner [mailto:[email protected]] >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 20:56 >> An: Mike Rupprecht; amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] CAPE's Back >> >> Mike and the rest of the list, >> >> CAPE-1 almost perfectly tracks with Object 31129. AOS on the last pass >> was 30secs. after predicted and LOS 10-20 secs. before predicted. >> Frequency was nominal. There is a building that is directly in the line >> of sight when on the AOS horizon which affects the lower 1 or 2 degrees >> elevation (The building is a 3-story building and we have a 20 ft tower >> on top of a 2 story building. Frequency was nominal and rotor and >> frequency control were left to the radio. Signal strength was S7 on a 4 >> degree pass. >> >> Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG >> >> Mike Rupprecht wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> could you tell us the used Keps (Object) ? >>> >>> Thank, Mike >>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] Im >>> Auftrag von Jonathan Wagner >>> Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 18:52 >>> An: Robert Henry >>> Cc: LaBerteaux(a)gmail.com; jld9905(a)louisiana.edu; shawng(a)getgds.com; >>> cbb5364(a)louisiana.edu; baj3556(a)louisiana.edu; reb2548(a)louisiana.edu; >>> bpb5344(a)louisiana.edu; falcanary(a)yahoo.com; jd.harrist(a)gmail.com; >>> pauldarby(a)ieee.org; amsat-bb(a)amsat.org; hjg1359(a)louisiana.edu; >>> sean(a)globalcomnet.com; kpm1725(a)louisiana.edu; mmm1536(a)louisiana.edu >>> Betreff: [amsat-bb] CAPE's Back >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> CAPE-1's back and loud. Just had an excellent pass over CAPE ground >>> station with strong signal (operating remotely, so no definite signal >>> reading). Copied at least 4 or 5 CW beacons and fixing to go back and >>> decode. Will update on status after packet decode. >>> >>> Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> ____________ >>> Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit >>> Version: AVK 17.4162 from 22.04.2007 >>> Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________ >> Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit >> Version: AVK 17.4185 from 23.04.2007 >> Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com >> >> >> >> > > > ____________ > Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit > Version: AVK 17.4185 from 23.04.2007 > Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com > > > ____________ Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit Version: AVK 17.4185 from 23.04.2007 Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com

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Re: CAPE's Back
by G0MRF＠aol.com 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Congratulations Jonathan and the CAPE 1 team I see an initial report on W0KRPs site suggests that the satellite is running on solar panel power alone as there is no battery current shown in telemetry. If that's correct: My congratulations to the designer of the EPS who has found the solution to that age old AMSAT problem of not killing the satellite when the batteries fail But my commiserations on the batteries. 73 David G0MRF In a message dated 23/04/2007 19:13:29 GMT Standard Time, jonathan(a)jonathanwagner.net writes: Mike and the rest of the list, CAPE-1 almost perfectly tracks with Object 31129. AOS on the last pass was 30secs. after predicted and LOS 10-20 secs. before predicted. Frequency was nominal. There is a building that is directly in the line of sight when on the AOS horizon which affects the lower 1 or 2 degrees elevation (The building is a 3-story building and we have a 20 ft tower on top of a 2 story building. Frequency was nominal and rotor and frequency control were left to the radio. Signal strength was S7 on a 4 degree pass. Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG

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Re: CAPE's Back
by Jonathan Wagner 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Mike and the rest of the list, CAPE-1 almost perfectly tracks with Object 31129. AOS on the last pass was 30secs. after predicted and LOS 10-20 secs. before predicted. Frequency was nominal. There is a building that is directly in the line of sight when on the AOS horizon which affects the lower 1 or 2 degrees elevation (The building is a 3-story building and we have a 20 ft tower on top of a 2 story building. Frequency was nominal and rotor and frequency control were left to the radio. Signal strength was S7 on a 4 degree pass. Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG Mike Rupprecht wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > could you tell us the used Keps (Object) ? > > Thank, Mike > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] Im > Auftrag von Jonathan Wagner > Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 18:52 > An: Robert Henry > Cc: LaBerteaux(a)gmail.com; jld9905(a)louisiana.edu; shawng(a)getgds.com; > cbb5364(a)louisiana.edu; baj3556(a)louisiana.edu; reb2548(a)louisiana.edu; > bpb5344(a)louisiana.edu; falcanary(a)yahoo.com; jd.harrist(a)gmail.com; > pauldarby(a)ieee.org; amsat-bb(a)amsat.org; hjg1359(a)louisiana.edu; > sean(a)globalcomnet.com; kpm1725(a)louisiana.edu; mmm1536(a)louisiana.edu > Betreff: [amsat-bb] CAPE's Back > > Hi all, > > CAPE-1's back and loud. Just had an excellent pass over CAPE ground > station with strong signal (operating remotely, so no definite signal > reading). Copied at least 4 or 5 CW beacons and fixing to go back and > decode. Will update on status after packet decode. > > Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ____________ > Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit > Version: AVK 17.4162 from 22.04.2007 > Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com > > >

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CAPE's Back
by Jonathan Wagner 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi all, CAPE-1's back and loud. Just had an excellent pass over CAPE ground station with strong signal (operating remotely, so no definite signal reading). Copied at least 4 or 5 CW beacons and fixing to go back and decode. Will update on status after packet decode. Jonathan Wagner, KE5FSG

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REMINDER - Dayton Dinner
by MARTHA SARAGOVITZ 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

All AMSAT-TAPR banquet tickets will be availabe for pick-up on Friday at the AMSAT booth. 73, Martha - AMSAT Manager

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FO-29 not heard
by Frank Wiesenmeyer 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Dear FO-29 friends: Sadly, I have to report that I heard no sign of our beloved satellite Fuji OSCAR 29 this morning on orbit 52,751 which was in range of my station from 12:03 through 12:12 UTC. I was holding out hope that it would respond to commands from JARL Monday morning to turn on again, but so far that has not happened. I am located in EM59 which is Central Illinois. If anyone has any recent news please share it with us. I have been using the Mode J satellites since the days of OSCAR 8 and FO-20 & FO-29 have been superb satellites that followed the pioneering work of AO-8. Hopefully, there will be another Fuji Oscar Mode J satellite launched in the future. 73 for now, Frank K9CIS

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Forward Message from JARL
by Mineo Wakita 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

An analog transponder of a amateur radio satellite "Fuji-3" stops now. We ask for an offer of the information for investigation and restoration of a cause. Orbiting amateur satellite "Fuji-3" (FO-29, 8J1JCS) of JARL performed a consecutive use of regular analog system, but we confirmed the analog transponder which we should have been managing on 21 April 2007 stopped. We apply it to the investigation of a cause in a control station and collect the information and analyze the telemetry before a transponder stops now. And we draw up a command plan toward the future restoration. As for the station having the following information about "Fuji-3", we wish to does an offer of these information in JARL Development Section. -------------------------------------------------------------- CW telemetry data after 07:00(UTC) April 20, 2007 Tranaponder movement situation after 07:00(UTC) April 20, 2007 (CW telemetry is a stop, but a transponder can work.) If there is a phenomenon, in addition, to become reference, please send to us the signal strength or the reception situation. -------------------------------------------------------------- We ask for cooperation of people for restoration of "Fuji-3". An information destination: lab (at) jarl.or.jp Translated by Mineo Wakita, JE9PEL.

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Re: KEPS for Moon
by Clive Wallis 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi, In a recent posting John WB9PNU asked about Keps for the moon. However, I note that he quoted my posting about OSCAR-11 status. Have the wires got crossed? Or was this related to OSCAR-11 eclipses? The eclipses on OSCAR-11 are nothing to do with the moon. Just the satellite going into the earth's shadow. Many tracking programs give an indication of when this happens. On my website there is a dedicated software package to do the eclipse predictions, SATILL.ZIP. It's in the General Satellite and OSCAR-11 pages.The URL is www.users.zetnet.co.uk/clivew/ 73 Clive G3CWV Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.

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libertad 1
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Libertad 1 over Colombia S9+40 db 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I00P23R55_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:82_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I00P23R55_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:82_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O24C24I00P23R55_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:82_AA 73 HK4MKE

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OSCAR-11 Report
by Clive Wallis 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

OSCAR-11 REPORT 18 April 2007 RECEPTION REPORTS REQUESTED! OSCAR-11 is expected to switch ON around 22:00 UTC 21 April. This is just after the start of solar eclipses, which may cause the satellite to switch OFF for 21 days. In the past the satellite has been very sensitive to the start of eclipse season, although the duration of the eclipses is initially very short. Please send reception reports to the the address below or post to amsat-bb. If you are able to record the satellite as a WAV file, please do so, but let me know what you have, before sending it! If you need to hear what the satellite sounds like, please visit my website www.users.zetnet.co.uk/clivew/ The satellite transmits on 145.826 MHz. set receiver to NBFM. --------- During the period 22 March to 17 April 2007, the satellite's 145.826 MHz. beacon was heard from 01 to 11 April . Excellent signals have beeen heard on most passes, and good copy of the telemetry obtained. The on-board clock has continued to be of interest. At the start of this ON period the clock was 37.21439 days slow. During this period, the date passed through the transition from February to March. Instead of changing the month after 28 February, the date incremented to 29 February, and then changed to 01 March. Previously, since 1992, a fault had occurred every leap year, when date had failed to increment to 29 February. When last heard the total clock error was 38.21441 days slow. If the satellite's watchdog timer continues to operate normally, the beacon should switch ON around 21/22 April 2007. However, solar eclipses are expected to start on 20 April and will continue until 23 August. If the satellite performs as it did last year, it is unlikely to be heard, for any length of time, during the eclipse season. I am indebted to David G8OQW, Jeff KB2M, Edward BX1AD, Sil ZL2CIA, Gene WA4UKX and Rik, ON4GJ for their reports. Many thanks. The current status of the satellite, is that all the analogue telemetry channels, 0 to 59 are zero, ie they have failed. The status channels 60 to 67 are still working. The real time clock is showing a large accumulated error, although over short periods timekeeping is accurate to a few seconds per month. The day of the month has a bit stuck at 'one' so the day of the month is showing an error of +40 days. The time display has switched into 12 hour mode, with the date changing at around 05 hours UTC. The spacecraft computer and active attitude control system have switched OFF, ie. the satellite' attitude is controlled only by the passive gravity boom gradient, and the satellite is free to spin at any speed. When telemetry was last received it showed that one of the solar arrays had failed, and there was a large unexplained current drain on the main 14 volt bus. After 22 years in orbit the battery has undergone around 100,000 partial charge/discharge cycles, and observations suggest that it cannot power the satellite during eclipses, or sometimes during periods of poor solar attitude. The watchdog timer now operates on a 20 day cycle. The ON/OFF times have tended to be very consistent. The average of many observations show this to be 20.7 days, ie. 10.3 days ON followed by 10.4 days OFF. However, poor solar attitude may result may result in a low 14 volt line supply, which may cause the beacon to switch OFF prematurely, and reset the watchdog timer cycle. When this occurs, the beacon is OFF for 20.7 days. The Beacon frequencies are - VHF 145.826 MHz. AFSK FM ASCII Telemetry UHF 435.025 MHz. OFF S-band 2401.5 MHz. OFF Listeners to OSCAR-11 may be interested in visiting my website. If you need to know what OSCAR-11 should sound like, there is a short audio clip for you to hear. The website contains an archive of news & telemetry data. It also contains details about using a soundcard or hardware demodulators for data capture. There is software for capturing data, and decoding ASCII telemetry. The URL is www.users.zetnet.co.uk/clivew/ If you place this bulletin on a terrestrial packet network, please use the bulletin identifier $BID:U2RPT132.CWV, to prevent duplication. 73 Clive G3CWV xxxxx(a)amsat.org (please replace xxxxx by g3cwv)

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Libertad-1 22nd April
by Ian Ashley 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

2 packets copied this morning at 22:49:42z 73 de Ian ZL1AOX [22:49:39] 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O14C11I17P10R99_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:79_AA [22:49:41] 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O14C11I17P10R99_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:79_AA

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Libertad-1 Apr 22, 2007 pt.2
by Mike Rupprecht 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

All, Libertad-1 NORAD #31129 frequency (nominal) 437.400MHz At 22:08:45 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:79_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:79_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:79_AA At 20:26:40 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 73, Mike

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RELAY
by Luciano G. Nachif 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Hello folks, a friend of mine who is in the process of repairing his RF-CONCEPTS RFC 2-117 amplifier has been looking for a MIDLAND R059 Midtex Div 293-22B200 relay. I have found the other relay he is in need of at RF Parts but not the first one. If you happen to know a replacement part or where I can buy the above mentioned device, would you mind replying to me at nachif(a)terra.com.br , please? I thank you in advance. Best regards, Luciano PT9KK

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CP-4 Apr 22, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

All, CP-4 NORAD #31122 frequency nominal 437.323 MHz USB 20:03:35 FPFA COMM A 20:08:34 FPEA COMM B 20:13:31 FPEA COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 112 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 2D 0F 0B 36 12 92 02 07 04 5F A2 CD C0 93 03 00 03 6E C1 21 > C4 C1 C1 8F 01 00 09 95 30 B7 C5 BD 94 03 02 03 7B 4D D8 CE 41 > C4 91 01 00 03 64 8F DE C0 00 05 B8 91 B8 B8 A7 10 0E 0C 03 61 > 0B 01 67 78 78 B9 B9 83 C7 68 F8 C4 FF D3 EC 83 C7 68 F9 D8 81 > FF E7 EE 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 6B 01 28 2E 2E C0 Is anybody there who can explain the telemetry ? Thanks and 73, Mike DK3WN

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LIBERTAD-1 decoded
by Mineo Wakita 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

LIBERTAD-1 437.400 MHz #31129, 437.405MHz, 1k2 AFSK (FM) Interval, 10 minutes Apr 18, 11:58-12:12 UTC, 2007 Apr 18, 20:58-21:12 JST, 2007 Max ele, 34.0 deg 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/22/07 21:06:23] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-3_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:73_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/22/07 21:06:25] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-3_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:73_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/22/07 21:06:27] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-3_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:73_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/22/07 21:06:30] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-3_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:73_AA 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON [04/22/07 21:06:32] <UI C>: A00O23C23I23P22R-3_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:73_AA --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Libertad-1 Apr 22, 2007
by Mike Rupprecht 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

All, Libertad-1 NORAD #31129 frequency (nominal) 437.400MHz At 20:26:40 UTC 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C24I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:78_AA 73, Mike

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No FO-29 signals
by ALVARO GAVIRIA 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

No signals from FO-29 over Colombia, 40º full sun 19:33 UTC Very sad. HK4MKE

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on FO-29 from JARL
by Mineo Wakita 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Subject: Re: FO-29 on Apr.19 From: JARL Development Section To: Mineo Wakita Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:36:30 +0900 To JE9PEL, Wakita, I monitored a pass of the afternoon of Saturday before one week at home, and a lot of CW, QSO is taken, so I think "Good health!". I am surprised in an occurrence which I don't thought to be. I watch it calmly to a pass of afternoon today and think about correspondence by a command if there is not a change. If there is information to become some reference, I am happy if I can have. de JARL Development Section, Kondo --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Silent Key
by Greg Wycoff 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

I recieved this from Bill W0OQC asking me to repost this msg for him. Greg could you post the following for me::: Tom Calder N7MPM became a Silent Key Saturday Morning, April 21 at his home in Centerfield Utah. Tom had been in poor health for the pass year . Tom was very active on the satellites thru the 1990's. His wife Joyce is also a Ham also. Her address is : Joyce Calder, 150 W. 100 N. , Centerfield UT 84622. Services are pending at this time. Bill W0OQC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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AMSAT offerings at Dayton
by Gould Smith 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

AMSAT Offerings at Dayton 2007 Remember to make your reservations now for the AMSAT/TAPR Banquet at the Air Force Museum. It will be a fun evening, very good food and great things to see. Reservations close Monday, May 14th. Go to the AMSAT Store to make your reservations http://www.amsat-na.com/item.php?id=100133 In addition to free gifts with your membership renewal or joining AMSAT, we will have a number of other offerings at the Dayton AMSAT booth. Updated 2007 Frequency Chart Updated "2007 Getting Started With Amateur Satellites" book ***New*** Black Computer backpacks with AMSAT logo ***New*** G6LVB computer controlled rotor tracker boards (bare with parts list) ***New*** White SS Golf shirts with AMSAT logo ***New*** Blue LS heavy tee shirt with AMSAT logo ***New*** Blue baseball cap with AMSAT logo ***New*** AMSAT lanyards with badge clips ***New*** Digital CD with 1200 - 38k4 test signals, registered WiSP software and other digital items ***New*** Green medium weight jacket with AMSAT logo and name/callsign ***New*** 2006 San Francisco Symposium Proceedings AMSAT Journal CDs Arrow Antennas SatPC32, Nova for Windows, SCRAP and IT tracking software AMSAT clocks Eagle Decals and Patches ARISS Patches AO-7 QSL cards The Eagle area will have an operational SDX (Software Defined Transponder) demonstration, 70cm receiver, 1/2 scale model of the Eagle structure, Eagle power generation system, Ultra cap and NiCd battery and SuitSat 2 hardware. The outdoor satellite demonstration area will be upgraded and be working FM and SSB satellites all day, each day. I am also looking for additional volunteers to work 2 hours shifts in the AMSAT booth on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Email your availability to wa4sxm(a)amsat.org Make your plans for the Thursday evening Pizza Party, Friday AMSAT Forum, Banquet and booth visits, Satellite Demonstrations and Eagle area for the latest information and hardware. See the AMSAT web site for additional details. Looking forward to seeing you at all of the events, Gould, WA4SXM

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LIBERTAD-1 FM recorded
by Mineo Wakita 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

LIBERTAD-1 #31129, 437.405MHz, 1k2 AFSK (FM) Intervall, 10 minutes Apr 22, 00:54-01:06 UTC, 2007 Apr 22, 09:54-10:06 JST, 2007 Max ele, 36.8 deg http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70422lib.wav Tnx.> DK3WN, Mike Rupprecht --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Jamesburg Earth Station article in Aviation Week
by Margaret Leber 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

"A chance reading of a "for sale" advertisement in a weekly newspaper has launched a group of 30 space history buffs on a mission to save the 30-meter Jamesburg AT&T/Comsat satellite dish about an hour from Monterey, Calif. The dish was built in 1968 to support the Apollo 11 moon landing a year later. Besides its commercial duties, it also played a role in capturing and distributing images of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, says Pat Barthelow [AA6EG,] an avionics technician from Sacramento who first noticed the ad in the Carmel (Calif.) Pine Cone and quickly put out the word." Aviation week article: http://tinyurl.com/yuo6zt http://www.jamesburgdish.org/ -- 73 de Maggie K3XS Editor, Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club Blurb - http://www.phil-mont.org Elecraft K2 #1641 -- AOPA 925383 -- ARRL 39280

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CP4 received and decoded
by Mike Rupprecht 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

All, CP-4 received at Apr 22, 2007 10:33 COMM A beacon without cw header ! 10:38 COMM B beacon cw header FPFA 12:08 COMM B beacon cw header FPEA 12:13 COMM A beacon without cw header ! ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 111 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 3F 0E 04 00 0B BB 02 07 03 5F A0 51 C0 C1 0B 02 9B BA 6F 21 > 6C C1 B9 03 02 08 BB 2C 4B 52 BD 93 02 02 03 A5 50 54 4D C5 41 > 97 01 00 03 82 89 6B C0 00 04 B8 7A B8 B8 A0 11 0F 0B 03 01 61 > 74 85 80 B9 B9 83 C7 64 F6 26 FF A5 EC 8B C7 6A F6 00 00 E0 81 > EE 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5C 01 1E 2E 29 5D A3 73, Mike DK3WN

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Fwd: on FO-29 from JARL
by Mineo Wakita 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Subject: Re: FO-29 on Apr.19 From: JARL Development Section To: Mineo Wakita Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:36:30 +0900 To JE9PEL, Wakita, I monitored a pass of the afternoon of Saturday before one week at home, and a lot of CW, QSO is taken, so I think "Good health!". I am surprised in an occurrence which I don't thought to be. I watch it calmly to a pass of afternoon today and think about correspondence by a command if there is not a change. If there is information to become some reference, I am happy if I can have. de JARL Development Section, Kondo --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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CP-4 CW recorded
by Mineo Wakita 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

CP-4 #31122, 437.325MHz, CW, 1k2 FSK (USB) Intervall, 5 minutes Apr 22, 00:39-00:52 UTC, 2007 Apr 22, 09:39-09:52 JST, 2007 Max ele, 25.5 deg http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/70422cp4.wav Tnx.> DK3WN, Mike Rupprecht --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Libertad decoded 23:41 z
by Ian Ashley 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Hi All, on a pass with max el of 12 degrees these two packets were decoded from 437.405 MHz 73 de Ian ZL1AOX [23:40:52] 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O14C99I16P11R99_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA [23:40:57] 5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON <UI C>:A00O14C99I16P11R99_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA

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CP-4 pass 2234UTC
by Mike Rupprecht 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, CP-4 intervall is exactly 5 minutes. NORAD #31122, 437.325MHz (437.322 MHz with Keps day 110), 1k2 FSK (USB) 22:39:05 UTC: cw = FPEA ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 111 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 A8 0C 0E 1D 1A 92 02 07 04 5B 8D D8 C0 93 03 00 03 81 AB 21 > C7 C4 C1 8E 01 00 09 A7 28 BB C9 BD 93 03 03 04 8B 62 E7 DC 41 > C4 90 01 00 03 73 95 EF C0 00 05 B8 9A B8 B8 A7 10 11 03 01 61 > 6D 7F 7F B9 B9 83 C7 68 F6 C6 FF F6 EC 83 C7 68 F7 D2 FF 0B 81 > EF 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 5E 01 27 2C 2D 5C AC 22:44:04 UTC: cw = FPEA ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 112 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 AB 0C 0E 23 18 9E 02 07 03 63 BF 83 C0 9F 02 00 03 64 DA 21 > 85 83 C2 C3 97 6F 09 95 36 7B 7E BE D6 01 04 04 7B 2C E3 D0 41 > C5 9C 00 00 03 5C C0 C0 00 05 B8 A0 B8 B8 B0 11 0F 0C 03 09 61 > 01 78 8A 88 B9 B9 83 C7 6C F3 77 00 F3 EC 83 C7 6D F4 35 00 81 > 09 EF 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 68 01 26 2B 2B 5C AE 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad decoded again on 2nd pass
by Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, Libertad-1 decoded again. 2 times in one pass. I found that libertad is about 5KHz lower then expected. This confirms the observation of Mike DK3WN. Using NORAD #31129 !S 22:50:05 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O23C23I23P22R-1_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA !S 23:00:09 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O25C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA !S 23:00:11 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O25C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA !S 23:00:13 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O25C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA !S 23:00:15 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O25C24I24P21R-6_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:65_AA 73 Rob PE1ITR http://www.pe1itr.com

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Devices needed and a short contact list for AO-51
by Ernest Erickson 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

Greetings all! I have a dire need for several GaAs FETs to rebuild some preamps I blew up a couple of years ago, and I have nothing in stock anymore, and they are desperately needed. Here's the 'list' of these parts. ATF21186 (Qty. 4 needed) ATF10736 (Qty. 4 needed) If anybody has at least two of either device and is willing to sell/trade them, I would love to talk to you! Many thanks for your help! Now...On to the contacts. 4.17.07: 17:38 UTC WA8SME, DM08 4.18.07: 03:31 UTC K6YK, John, CM97 4.18.07: 03:35 UTC N5IAY, Wm. Boyer, EM51 4.18:07: 16:21 UTC W6ZQ, DM42, Ronald Cade 4.19:07: 03:54 UTC K7EFZ, DN33, Alan Fielding 4.19.07: 16:31 UTC N7EQF, CN84, Albert Ozias I hope all of the above listed contacts are not in error, but if they are, I appologize as I am 'deaf' without my preamp, but I am doing the best I can with what is available. Thank you to everybody for making AO-51 and all satellite contacts 'FUN' again! * I still miss UO-14 though* Please feel free to Email me directly to confirm all contacts at: aec9823(a)yahoo.com Sincerely Ernest A. Erickson, KA9UCE, DM43ha Ernest A. Erickson, KA9UCE Applied Electronic Communications, AEC 10711 East Verbina Lane Florence, AZ. 85232 520.723.0602 aec9823(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: LIBERTAD-1 and CP4 keps ? (Correction)
by Mineo Wakita 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

By Mike Rupprecht and Rob Hardenberg: OBJECT F = CP4 ? 1 31122U 07012F 07110.62848838 .00000404 00000-0 10000-3 0 99 2 31122 098.0876 185.7595 0085476 203.1259 156.6027 14.54997406 489 OBJECT-M = LIBERTAD-1 ? 1 31129U 07012N 07111.53146356 .00000384 00000-0 10000-3 0 146 2 31129 098.0841 186.6157 0102983 200.1763 159.5363 14.51906899 581

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LIBERTAD-1 and CP4 keps ?
by Mineo Wakita 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

By Mike Rupprecht and Rob Hardenberg: OBJECT F = LIBERTAD-1 ? 1 31122U 07012F 07110.62848838 .00000404 00000-0 10000-3 0 99 2 31122 098.0876 185.7595 0085476 203.1259 156.6027 14.54997406 489 OBJECT-M = CP4 ? 1 31129U 07012N 07111.53146356 .00000384 00000-0 10000-3 0 146 2 31129 098.0841 186.6157 0102983 200.1763 159.5363 14.51906899 581 --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Apr 22, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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CP-4 again decoded
by Mike Rupprecht 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, last pass I could receive again 2 beacons, but only one decode. first becon at 2059UTC CW header was FPEA second at 2104UTC CW header was FPEA ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 41 .COMM A ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 113 from N6CP to N6CP: 1 > 01 79 0C 0C 37 30 D3 02 07 03 5B 8F 9E C0 99 03 00 03 98 A6 21 > 80 7D C1 93 01 00 09 BD 28 8A 97 BD 97 03 02 04 A4 5F E8 DC 41 > C4 C9 04 1D 03 88 8F B0 C0 00 05 B8 A1 B8 B8 A8 12 0F 0B 03 61 > 0E 01 77 89 88 B9 B9 83 C7 68 F4 04 00 E7 EC 83 C7 69 F4 9B 81 > FF 12 EF 03 01 00 00 26 26 08 68 01 26 2A 2B 5C C1 The intervall is now 5 minutes (confirm to the last pass) and not 2 minutes! 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad decoded!
by Mike Rupprecht 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, now I could decode the Libertad-1 beacon J 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0 A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA 5K3L/BEACON>5K3USA>UI,C,F0: A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA The interval is a little more than 10 minutes. I received Libertad in the last pass at 1935UTC but now 2118UTC. So I think there is an additional offset per pass ? I used the Keps for NORAD #31129 and center frequency of 437.245MHz (AFSK, FM). Could decode the packets 3-4 KHz lower. 73, Mike DK3WN

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Libertad transmission
by OZ1MY 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

Hi all, Just received short reception from Libertad at 2118 UTC here from Copenhagen. Sounds like AFSK. Used Object M for the tracking. No decoding :-( Have a nice weekend 73 OZ1MY Ib

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Libertad decode
by Rob Hardenberg 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, I just could decode libertad-1 at 21:18UTC and could 2 packets. Using NORAD #31129. !S 21:18:02 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA !S 21:18:07 !5K3L>5K3USA,BEACON/1 :A00O24C23I24P21R-5_LIBERTAD_1COL_B:64_AA 73 Rob PE1ITR http://www.pe1itr.com

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Libertad heard
by Mike Rupprecht 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, I could hear Libertad-1 at 1935UTC and recorded the 5 packet bursts. But they were too weak to decode. The pass was rather low and I hope results will be better in the next European pass. I used NORAD #31129. 73, Mike DK3WN

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CP-4 decode
by Mike Rupprecht 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

All, could decode CP-4 beacon at 19:29:10 UTC uses NORAD #31122 leading cw: FGEA 1k2 FSK frames: ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 23 from N6CP to N6CP: 04 43 4F 4D 4D 20 42 .COMM B ctrl: 3 {UI} PID: F0 {No L3} Total Frame Bytes: 112 from N6CP to N6CP: 01 49 0C 0B 14 0B B4 02 04 03 72 B6 75 C0 CB 34 21 02 9E C9 69 62 C2 C2 0C 09 08 B9 40 4A 50 BE B3 02 01 03 A8 35 E6 DA C5 AF 00 00 03 87 7D CD C0 00 05 B8 9B B8 B9 C2 10 0F 0C 03 02 78 89 87 BA BA 8B C7 6A F3 FE FF A9 EC 8B C7 6A F4 00 00 49 EF 03 01 00 00 66 26 08 62 01 29 2B 2B 5C F3 73, Mike DK3WN

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