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Re: Antenna input requested
by Marshall Toburen 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

If the run from your rig to your antenna is < 150', if you get the longer M2 circularly polarized yagis + AZ/EL rotator; and you use hard line feed I have found you don't need mast mounted preamps. 73, Marshall, AAØFO On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 1:16 PM Don Solberg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > If you want to get the maximum enjoyment out of the satellites, you want > to be able to operate the linear birds and the Greencube digipeater, I > would recommend the M2 Leo pack, at least a UHF mast mounted preamp and an > AZ/EL rotator. This is what I use with my 9700 and it works very well. > > Operating the FM birds with minimal equipment is fun but it can get very > boring very easily. > > 73, > > Don K9AQ > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 5:06 PM Jerry Davis via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > >> I vot yes on Ant's NU1U recommendation with 1 exception. go for the ~15 >> foot cross polorized antenna about 15 dB gain on 2 meters and 18 dB gain on >> 70 CM. The circular polorized antennas are not critical to get into and >> receive the birds as in the early days.I have the same setup as Ant, but am >> looking at cross polorized antennas. Not only will it get you easier access >> to Greencube, but also for EME. There are quite a few stations that you can >> contact with that setup. and during contests you will be able to make quite >> a few contacts. And, dont forget the Preamps. These will definately help >> you receive Greencube and do EME. Have a buddy here that uses Eggbeaters >> and has excellant results, but he is limited on what he antenna he put up. >> He gets into greencube with his Alaskan Arrow and has to setup everything >> outside to operate. >> >> Cheers >> Jerry - N5EKO >> >> On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 09:48:41 AM CDT, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB < >> amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: >> >> >> Second the idea of an Arrow to start with. But FWIW, I started out with >> two small yagis that I already had on hand, 4EL on 144 MHz, 5EL on 435 MHz, >> one mounted horizontally, the other vertically, on separate tripods to >> further minimize desensitization, no rotors, outside on my house deck. >> Worked just about everything I heard, no big investment of money, lots of >> exercise running 2-3 times out onto the deck manually turning the yagis >> during passes. I still have yagis on tripods on the deck, same 4EL on 144 >> MHz but 9ELx2 on 435 MHz as a major interest is low horizon DX on RS-44 and >> 435 MHz downlink birds. And both are now on cheap TV antenna rotors. No >> preamp other than what’s in the ICOM 9700. Standing at 66 DXCC and 49 WAC >> (need a HI volcano SOTA to finally make 50). Go for it, play around with >> antennas, learn, have fun. Good luck. Will be listening for the two of you. >> >> Wes NA1ME >> Maine FN54 >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:05 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >> wrote: >> >> Folks, >> Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never >> spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo >> daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's >> on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. >> >> Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or >> wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO >> yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some >> opinions from those that have the experience. >> 73/Greg >> N5IF >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. 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Re: Antenna input requested
by Don Solberg 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

If you want to get the maximum enjoyment out of the satellites, you want to be able to operate the linear birds and the Greencube digipeater, I would recommend the M2 Leo pack, at least a UHF mast mounted preamp and an AZ/EL rotator. This is what I use with my 9700 and it works very well. Operating the FM birds with minimal equipment is fun but it can get very boring very easily. 73, Don K9AQ On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 5:06 PM Jerry Davis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > I vot yes on Ant's NU1U recommendation with 1 exception. go for the ~15 > foot cross polorized antenna about 15 dB gain on 2 meters and 18 dB gain on > 70 CM. The circular polorized antennas are not critical to get into and > receive the birds as in the early days.I have the same setup as Ant, but am > looking at cross polorized antennas. Not only will it get you easier access > to Greencube, but also for EME. There are quite a few stations that you can > contact with that setup. and during contests you will be able to make quite > a few contacts. And, dont forget the Preamps. These will definately help > you receive Greencube and do EME. Have a buddy here that uses Eggbeaters > and has excellant results, but he is limited on what he antenna he put up. > He gets into greencube with his Alaskan Arrow and has to setup everything > outside to operate. > > Cheers > Jerry - N5EKO > > On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 09:48:41 AM CDT, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > > > Second the idea of an Arrow to start with. But FWIW, I started out with > two small yagis that I already had on hand, 4EL on 144 MHz, 5EL on 435 MHz, > one mounted horizontally, the other vertically, on separate tripods to > further minimize desensitization, no rotors, outside on my house deck. > Worked just about everything I heard, no big investment of money, lots of > exercise running 2-3 times out onto the deck manually turning the yagis > during passes. I still have yagis on tripods on the deck, same 4EL on 144 > MHz but 9ELx2 on 435 MHz as a major interest is low horizon DX on RS-44 and > 435 MHz downlink birds. And both are now on cheap TV antenna rotors. No > preamp other than what’s in the ICOM 9700. Standing at 66 DXCC and 49 WAC > (need a HI volcano SOTA to finally make 50). Go for it, play around with > antennas, learn, have fun. Good luck. Will be listening for the two of you. > > Wes NA1ME > Maine FN54 > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:05 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > wrote: > > Folks, > Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never > spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo > daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's > on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. > > Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or > wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO > yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some > opinions from those that have the experience. > 73/Greg > N5IF > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2023-08-28 17:00 UTC
by aj9n＠aol.com 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2023-08-28 17:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Bowman Middle School, Bakersville, NC, direct via W4GUZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The downlink frequency is presently scheduled to be 145.800 MHz The latest information on the operation mode can be found at https://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html The scheduled crewmember is Steve Bowen KI5BKB The ARISS mentor is AA6TB Contact was successful: Mon 2023-08-28 14:38:46 UTC 85 deg (***) Congratulations to the Bowman Middle School students, Steve, and mentor AA6TB! (***) Augusta Preparatory Day School, Augusta, GA, direct via K4RGK The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The downlink frequency is presently scheduled to be 145.800 MHz The latest information on the operation mode can be found at https://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html The scheduled crewmember is Steve Bowen KI5BKB The ARISS mentor is AA4KN Contact is go for: Thu 2023-08-31 13:51:28 UTC 64 deg Egemen Yildiz Secondary School, İzmir, Turkey, telebridge via K6DUE (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The downlink frequency is presently scheduled to be 145.800 MHz The latest information on the operation mode can be found at https://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html The scheduled crewmember is Jasmin Moghbeli KI5WSL (***) The ARISS mentor is IZ2GOJ Contact is go for: Tue 2023-09-05 11:23:56 UTC 38 deg (***) SpaceX Crew-7 now on orbit (***) Welcome aboard! (***) Jasmin Moghbeli KI5WSL Andreas Mogensen KG5GCZ Satoshi Furukawa Konstantin Borisov The crossband repeater continues to be active. If any crewmember is so inclined, all they have to do is pick up the microphone, raise the volume up, and talk on the crossband repeater. So give a listen, you just never know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2023-08-28 17:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt The successful school list has been updated as of 2023-08-28 17:00 UTC. (***) https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf ####################################################################################################################################### Comments on making general contacts I have been seeing a lot of traffic on Facebook and I suspect on other social media sites with people asking why they are not hearing the crew make general contacts. First off the crew is very busy on the ISS and they simply may not have the time to just pick up the microphone and talk. Also, one needs to be aware of their normal daily schedule. I have listed below the constraints that we at ARISS have to follow in order to schedule the school contacts. Hopefully this will help you better schedule your opportunities. Typical daily schedule Wakeup to Workday start= 1.5 hours Workday start to Workday end=12 hours Workday end to Sleep= 2 hours Sleep to wakeup= 8.5 hours The crew's usual waking period is 0730 - 1930 UTC. The most common times to find a crew member making casual periods are about one hour after waking and before sleeping, when they have personal time. They're usually free most of the weekend, as well. SSTV events are not that often. So please check out https://www.ariss.org/ for the latest information or watch for the ARISS announcements. And don’t forget that the packet system is active. As always, if there is an EVA, a docking, or an undocking; the ARISS radios are turned off as part of the safety protocol. The latest information on the operation mode can be found at https://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html The latest list of frequencies in use can be found at https://www.ariss.org/contact-the-iss.html ######################################################################################################################################## A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the telebridge from their own home. **************************************************************************************************************************************** ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the public in general. As such, we may have last minute cancellations or postponements of school contacts. As always, I will try to provide everyone with near-real-time updates. Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements at https://www.ariss.org/ The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19: Postponed: No new schools Cancelled: No new schools **************************************************************************************************************************************** The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARISS Contact Applications (United States) Call for Proposals The next proposal window for US schools and educational organizations to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew member on board the ISS opens February 20, 2023 for contacts to be scheduled for January 1, 2024 – June 30, 2024. This proposal is due to ARISS by March 31, 2023 at 11:59 PM Pacific Time. Find more information and proposal instructions, visit the ARISS-USA website at: https://ariss-usa.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact-in-the-usa/ Please direct any questions to ariss.us.education(a)gmail.com. For future proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars, go to www.ariss.org. About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East) Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from September to October and from February to April. Please refer to details and the application form at www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts. Applications should be addressed by email to: school.selection.manager(a)ariss-eu.org ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and Australia and Russia) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by filling out an application. Please direct questions to the appropriate regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate coordinator. For the application, go to: https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html. ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to: ve3tbd(a)gmail.com ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to: ariss(a)iaru-r3.org, Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/ ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n(a)amsat.org or aj9n(a)aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8Ø MHz unless otherwise noted. ******************************************************************************* All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ******************************************************************************* Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for troubleshooting. Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest news on the troubleshooting efforts. If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke(a)sbcglobal.net The HamTV webpage: https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulates the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Sergey RV3DR with 214 Francesco IKØWGF with 150 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 149 Gaston ON4WF with 124 Peter IN3GHZ with 115 Steve VE3TBD with 105 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed, and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1655. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1563. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48. Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: South Dakota, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DPØISS, FXØISS, GB1SS, IRØISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RSØISS **************************************************************************** Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correcti… Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 68 on orbit Sergey Prokopyev Francisco Rubio Dimitri Petelin SpaceX Crew-6 on orbit Steve Bowen KI5BKB Warren Hoburg KB3HTZ Sultan Al Neyadi KI5VTV Andrey Fediaev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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Re: Antenna input requested
by Jerry Davis 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

I vot yes on Ant's NU1U recommendation with 1 exception. go for the ~15 foot cross polorized antenna about 15 dB gain on 2 meters and 18 dB gain on 70 CM. The circular polorized antennas are not critical to get into and receive the birds as in the early days.I have the same setup as Ant, but am looking at cross polorized antennas. Not only will it get you easier access to Greencube, but also for EME. There are quite a few stations that you can contact with that setup. and during contests you will be able to make quite a few contacts. And, dont forget the Preamps. These will definately help you receive Greencube and do EME. Have a buddy here that uses Eggbeaters and has excellant results, but he is limited on what he antenna he put up. He gets into greencube with his Alaskan Arrow and has to setup everything outside to operate. CheersJerry - N5EKO On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 09:48:41 AM CDT, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: Second the idea of an Arrow to start with. But FWIW, I started out with two small yagis that I already had on hand, 4EL on 144 MHz, 5EL on 435 MHz, one mounted horizontally, the other vertically, on separate tripods to further minimize desensitization, no rotors, outside on my house deck. Worked just about everything I heard, no big investment of money, lots of exercise running 2-3 times out onto the deck manually turning the yagis during passes. I still have yagis on tripods on the deck, same 4EL on 144 MHz but 9ELx2 on 435 MHz as a major interest is low horizon DX on RS-44 and 435 MHz downlink birds. And both are now on cheap TV antenna rotors. No preamp other than what’s in the ICOM 9700. Standing at 66 DXCC and 49 WAC (need a HI volcano SOTA to finally make 50). Go for it, play around with antennas, learn, have fun. Good luck. Will be listening for the two of you. Wes NA1MEMaine FN54 On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:05 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: Folks,Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some opinions from those that have the experience.73/GregN5IF ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org

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Re: Antenna input requested
by Wes Baden 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Second the idea of an Arrow to start with. But FWIW, I started out with two small yagis that I already had on hand, 4EL on 144 MHz, 5EL on 435 MHz, one mounted horizontally, the other vertically, on separate tripods to further minimize desensitization, no rotors, outside on my house deck. Worked just about everything I heard, no big investment of money, lots of exercise running 2-3 times out onto the deck manually turning the yagis during passes. I still have yagis on tripods on the deck, same 4EL on 144 MHz but 9ELx2 on 435 MHz as a major interest is low horizon DX on RS-44 and 435 MHz downlink birds. And both are now on cheap TV antenna rotors. No preamp other than what’s in the ICOM 9700. Standing at 66 DXCC and 49 WAC (need a HI volcano SOTA to finally make 50). Go for it, play around with antennas, learn, have fun. Good luck. Will be listening for the two of you. Wes NA1ME Maine FN54 On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:05 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > Folks, > Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never > spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo > daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's > on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. > > Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or > wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO > yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some > opinions from those that have the experience. > 73/Greg > N5IF > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at > https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ > > View archives of this mailing list at > https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org > Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at > https://mailman.amsat.org

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Re: Antenna input requested
by GC 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Thanks for all the input so far, really appreciate it. One mention - I already have the IC-9700 in the shack and hardline with room in the pasture.....so I'm not limited to an HT or a mobile rig from the start.Greg/N5IF On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 09:30:34 AM CDT, Bill Booth via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: On 28/08/2023 10:06 a.m., GC via AMSAT-BB wrote: > olks, > Looking for some guidance. Depends on what trans/recv equip you have, and is it base or mobile. Since mine is homebase only I will put my comments towards that. You should put all the new monies into the antennas and the rotors. Mine are old KLM 14/22 element X types with no preamps but full rotation with Yaesu rotors. This gives me access to all sats easily and with the software available today works great. My tower is just high enough to clear the roof. -- Bill Booth VE3NXK Sundridge ON, Canada 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N FN05ns Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference. ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org

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Re: Antenna input requested
by Bill Booth 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

On 28/08/2023 10:06 a.m., GC via AMSAT-BB wrote: > olks, > Looking for some guidance. Depends on what trans/recv equip you have, and is it base or mobile. Since mine is homebase only I will put my comments towards that. You should put all the new monies into the antennas and the rotors. Mine are old KLM 14/22 element X types with no preamps but full rotation with Yaesu rotors. This gives me access to all sats easily and with the software available today works great. My tower is just high enough to clear the roof. -- Bill Booth VE3NXK Sundridge ON, Canada 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N FN05ns Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference.

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Re: Antenna input requested
by Ant Lefebvre 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Start with an arrow. If you haven't spent time on it, best to get in the pool at the shallow end. Love my G-5500 rotator, SAT controller, IC 9700 and M2 LEO Yagis. 73 -Ant NU1U On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:06 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > Folks, > Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never > spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo > daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's > on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. > > Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or > wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO > yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some > opinions from those that have the experience. > 73/Greg > N5IF > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at > https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ > > View archives of this mailing list at > https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org > Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at > https://mailman.amsat.org

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Re: Antenna input requested
by Greg Davis 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Greg, I'm quite new to this myself, but I would recommend a mid-point between those two options: a handheld antenna such as an Arrow or - what I use - an Elk. That approach works quite well and is a fraction of the cost of a full-on automated system with rotors, etc. 73 de Greg N3ZL On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:05 AM GC via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote: > Folks, > Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never > spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo > daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's > on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. > > Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or > wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO > yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some > opinions from those that have the experience. > 73/Greg > N5IF > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at > https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ > > View archives of this mailing list at > https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org > Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at > https://mailman.amsat.org

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Antenna input requested
by GC 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Folks,Looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for years but have never spent the time with satellites - I'm wanting to start. I also have a 13 yo daughter who just got her Extra here (KD9PDL) and she is asking about Q's on the birds....so am trying to keep up with her interests as well. Can we expect reasonable results with some non-directional eggbeater or wagon wheel antennas or should I go all in and invest in a couple of LEO yagis and rotor? I I have the room for either setup, just wanted some opinions from those that have the experience.73/GregN5IF

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