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Moon Landing a Russian report
by john heath 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hi, Just a bit of evidence for your consideration: Valentina Tereshkova and Valery Bykovsky were in Coventry England a few years ago and I was privilaged to be amongst the guests at a dinner held in their honour. During the after dinner conversation they were asked about the authenticity of the Amarican moon landings. Bykovsky said that they were monitoring the mission and there was no doubt in their minds that it was genuine. 73 John G7HIA PS - I am also looking forward to some high resolution images so that we can bury the "hoax theory" once and for all.

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Fwd: Re: Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
by Edward Cole 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

>Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:52:08 -0800 >To: "STeve Andre'" <andres(a)msu.edu>, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(a)acsalaska.net> >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....! > >> >>LeRoy, >> >>I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two hams >>who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971 (summer >>issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some, and another >>ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well. >>------snip > >Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band >received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up >in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for >LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every >20-minutes or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter >orbited behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other >missions afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both >worked at Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected >the carrier since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the >modulated signal. > >73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6) Ed, I completely forgot to discuss the reception of the Lunar orbiter. Yes, we used an old TS-408/U (military version of a hp 608A signal generator) a polaplexer, and Bill Burns 8-foot trailer mounted dish. We got good S/N ratio on the carrier, but couldn't recover information from the sidebands. If I remember correctly, the downlink was about 2287 MHz. The downlink/uplink ratio was 240/221, Milt Brockman's ratio we used in the DSN since the L-band days. 73, Dick K6HIJ So there you have it. 73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
by Reicher, James 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

An example of this would be WB4APR, who uses Amateur Radio to teach satellites to the midshipmen at Annapolis. 73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:14:12 -0000 From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh(a)comcast.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance To: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo(a)saloits.com>, <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <652DBC3397E9492187A9C0CF5AE0E27C@your6bvpxyztoq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original 97.113 (5) (c) A control operator may accept compensation as an incident of a teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is used by that teacher as part of classroom instruction at an educational insitution. 73, John KD6OZH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo(a)saloits.com> To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 17:42 UTC Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance >>> Related to Q2 & Q5 (compensation): >>> * As university staff, can I transmit to the CubeSat, or is my >>> salary considered compensation? >>> >>> * Is the refurbishment of a club ground station (man hours, >>> equipment repair/purchase) considered compensation? > > These are very important questions. I think it is also > important that we have a shared understanding of the answers, > rather than private opinions. > > I suggest that the researcher also approach the ARRL for an > opinion. My suspicion is that AMSAT and the ARRL will provide > conservative (and unofficial) answers to these questions. It > is much safer to say "no, that's prohibited" than "yes". > > In my view, this may be a question that we want to approach > the FCC with. I suspect that, if the question is properly > framed, the FCC might be more inclined to find this acceptable > than either AMSAT or the ARRL. > > -tjs > > Clint Bradford wrote: >> Can an AMSAT officer please privately reply to me regarding this email >> inquiry? Many thanks. >> >> A gentleman is considering a CubeSat mission for weather research, and >> needs answers to his inquiry after reading the AMSAT FAQ regarding >> using ham frequencies ... > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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I: Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
by Francesco Grappi 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hi Nitin VU3TYG, The special event on AO-51 with voice message and SSTV was Yesterday 20 July. 73" Frank IW4DVZ > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] Per > conto di Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG] > Inviato: martedì 21 luglio 2009 15.40 > A: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV > > Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages > still > operational on AO-51 > > 73's > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: APBIDDLE(a)mailaps.org > To: 'Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org' <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV > Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM" > > > The message and SSTV image will be "streaming" Monday > evening. > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
by Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG] 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages still operational on AO-51 73's Nitin [VU3TYG] --------- Original Message -------- From: APBIDDLE(a)mailaps.org To: 'Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org' <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM" > The message and SSTV image will be "streaming" Monday evening. > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ________________________________________________

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Re: [suitsat2] Lunar Landing 40th Anniversary
by White, Rosalie, K1STO 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

This is wonderful! Great job, Steve! 73, Rosalie, K1STO ________________________________ From: Tom Clark, K3IO [mailto:tom.k3io@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 7/20/2009 10:20 PM To: AMSAT BB; Suitsat Subject: [suitsat2] Lunar Landing 40th Anniversary EE Times prepared a July 20th special edition that does a great job of telling the Lunar Landing story from the viewpoint of a number of engineers. It can be found here. <http://newsletter.eetimes.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/hBSpe0MbG1o0Zqc0HNTh0Ex> Starting on page 42 are comments from a number of people who feel it was a very personal event in their lives. Page 44 features comments by our own Steve Bible, N7HPR. Thanks for voicing the sentiments that a lot of us feel, Steve. 73 de Tom, K3IO

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Apollo 11 transmission on AO-51 tonight
by Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hi! I was able to hear the transmission on two passes tonight (0000 and 0139 UTC). The first pass was a tough one to hear, as I was driving on US-6 between I-70 and Provo near the DM49/DN40 grid boundary, with lots of rocks and mountains all around me. I could hear the middle 3 or 4 minutes of that pass with little difficulty using my IC-T7H HT and the Larsen 2m/70cm mobile whip on the roof of my truck. For the later pass at 0139 UTC, I was using my normal FM satellite station (IC-2720H with Elk Antennas 2m/70cm log periodic) outside the motel I'm in tonight located in DM49bq. I recorded the 0139 UTC pass, since I did not get my laptop set up to receive the SSTV signals in real time. I have not fed the SSTV audio into my laptop yet, but will do that in the next day or so to see the picture. The four audio recordings were all very appropriate for the transmission, and I'm sure the photo will be as well - when I get to see it from my recording. It has been nice to see the satellite activity commemorating this event over the past few days - VE3MOON, K5E, and the AO-51 transmission this evening. I've had the chance to work both of those special-event stations while on the road, and will appreciate receiving those QSLs. Glad to see radio- and satellite-related chatter return to the -BB. Good night, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - Nephi, Utah http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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WD9EWK's road trip - Monday (20 July) report
by Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hi! Another day, another few hundred miles/km and more QSOs for the satellite log. With the special transmission on AO-51 this evening, I worked only SO-50 and AO-27 passes earlier today. Still a good day with more sightseeing and radio work, plus I'm setting up for a busy and fun day tomorrow. Before I left Monticello in eastern Utah this morning, I worked one SO-50 pass at 1530 UTC from the DM57/DM58 line where I had worked from on Sunday evening via AO-51. I surprised myself with working 10 stations on a weekday morning pass, including the VE3MOON special-event station in Ottawa. After that pass, I started northward on US-191 toward grid DM59 near the I-70 freeway. There was a VO-52 pass around 1650 UTC I had thought about working, but I could not. I was in Moab, and that town is in the middle of a small canyon with high walls that would have severely limited the time I could work on that pass. I kept going north, and got clear of Moab in time for SO-50's second pass I worked at 1710 UTC. Just before the 1710 UTC SO-50 pass, I made it about 15 miles/25km north of Moab, back onto a clear spot without hills or rocks blocking my view to the west. A decent pass, even with just 3 QSOs. This stop was not on a grid boundary, in grid DM58dr, but was not terribly far from where I would work AO-27 in the afternoon. I found a spot near the I-70 freeway on a county road, the old US-6 highway that runs parallel with the Union Pacific railway in that part of Utah. This spot was north of the town of Cisco, in grids DM58ix and DM59ia. I planned to work two, and possibly 3, AO-27 passes from here. I did not have a clear enough view to the west to work a very shallow pass (maximum 4 degrees elevation) at 2307 UTC, so I worked the earlier passes at 1946 and 2127 UTC. The 1946 UTC pass was up only to 17 degrees maximum elevation out there, but that was high enough to clear some hills east of the spot. I had no problems hearing the full 7 minutes of the pass, and worked 13 stations in that time. The pass was not as chaotic as the eastern AO-27 pass I worked on Sunday from DM47/DM57. Not a bad effort for a weekday pass. After this pass, I drove east on I-70 about 20 miles/32km to the Colorado state line, and then went a couple of miles/km into Colorado so I could turn around and get back to DM58ix/DM59ia in time for the 2127 UTC pass. At 2127 UTC, there were stations spread out through the entire 7-minute pass. I logged 12 QSOs with stations up and down western North America, and as far east as Louisiana and Ohio. Even though there were almost as many stations on the 2127 UTC pass as on the 1946 UTC pass, everyone who was on the later pass who wanted to work me had the chance. Since I was not going to stick around for the 2307 UTC pass, I decided to make a long drive toward the Salt Lake City area for tonight. This would set me up well for tomorrow's travels and sightseeing in central and southern Utah. I hope to be on from several grids from the following list: DM37, DM38, DM47, DM48, and DM49. I am currently in the north end of grid DM49, but with tall mountains immediately east of here I will go south before getting on tomorrow morning. I should be on SO-50 passes starting around 1600 UTC, AO-27 in the afternoon, and (if it is returned to the normal 145.920/435.300 FM voice repeater as planned) AO-51 in the evening. Although I strive to operate from grid boundaries to maximize the number of grids I can give out with my QSOs, that may not always be possible based on surroundings and/or conditions on or beside the roads and highways I will travel. I hope to be at least as far south as St. George in southwestern Utah, or even as far south as Las Vegas, tomorrow night. I need to get back home on Wednesday evening, so tomorrow will probably be the last full day for my radio activities. I've driven over 1000 miles/1600km since I left Phoenix last Thursday, and - including the 3 days late last week in and around Williams AZ - have worked from 7 different grids on this trip. More will be heard from tomorrow. Good night, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - currently in Nephi, Utah (80 miles/128km south of Salt Lake City) http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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Re: SpaceJam 3
by Greg Beat 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

I also caught the DePaul University HALO-II launch this morning (July 20) from Kankakee, IL due to the APRS beacon on board .. when I saw the Icon on my TM-D710 (somebody thank WB4APR for the thousandth time for this jewel). No announcement seen, this balloon appears to have NO X-band repeater ... just university experiments. It headed south along I-57 for about 2-1/2 hours and around 80,000 feet -- not as high as earlier SpaceJam-3 launch. Greg w9gb Had a great time with W9YJ-11 balloon launch. Thanks to who ever posted the info on the Amsat BB. I am the station in Fond du Lac, WI. EN53ss that made several contacts through the balloon repeater after it got above 50,000 ft. When it got to about 98,000 ft. at its peak, I had my Sat. antenna set at 10degree elevation. Great time. 73 N9RPQ Greg Beat wrote: Yes. There were actually 2 balloons with APRS beacons. The ATV video package did not make these launches. W9YJ-11, was launched first and supposedly reached ~ 100,000 feet Landed near the town of Bronson, IL I heard stations on the cross-band repeater from Fond DuLac, WI; Toledo, OH when it was around 50,000 feet. N9QGS-11 was launched second and lost its GPS data stream above 50,000 feet (just East of Royal, IL). It did recover its latitude/longitude and direction about 20 minutes later (near Oakwood, IL and I-74), but never its altitude. Landed south of Catlin, IL I have MS Power Point slides of the OpenAPRS.net APRS tracks for both balloons. You can go to OpenAPRS.net, enter the SSID for each balloon and request data over past 2 days. That will show you the actual tracks. Greg w9gb

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FM25 - Cape Hatteras National Seashore
by Albert Jagnow 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Anyone who worked me last week on AO-51 from one of two locations in FM25 Cape Hatteras National Seashore, North Carolina can just drop me an email. <mycall>@arrl.net I will send a card. I will try to create a nice card from some of my photos. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40642917@N02/sets/72157621629804725/ I don't know how common a grid is FM25. I can say it is the best location I have ever worked satellite. Planning to return next summer, but for now I am back in EN41. -- Albert Jagnow N0PFT

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