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Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 338
by Miguel Angel Baldonado 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Hello! I agree with Luciano, PY5LF......AO-85 is much more friendly with us! Greetings from GF05 MikeLU3EMB Enviado desde Outlook On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:34 PM -0800, <amsat-bb-request(a)amsat.org> wrote: Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to amsat-bb(a)amsat.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amsat-bb-request(a)amsat.org You can reach the person managing the list at amsat-bb-owner(a)amsat.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." Today's Topics: 1. AO85 Pass (PY5LF) 2. AO-85 FM UV Voice mode received over Bangkok, Thailand (Karn Suwanrat) 3. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (skristof(a)etczone.com) 4. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now (Robert McGwier) 5. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path) (Robert Bruninga) 6. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path) (skristof(a)etczone.com) 7. M2 LEO PACK - FREE SHIPPING CONUS or BEST OFFER (Peter Budnik) 8. Re: AO85 vs SO-50 (GW1FKY(a)aol.com) 9. AO 85 operations (James Brown) 10. Re: AO 85 operations (mvivona(a)yahoo.com) 11. Re: AO 85 operations (R.T.Liddy) 12. Re: AO 85 operations (Kevin Schuchmann) 13. Ao-73/FUNcube mode change (Jim Heck G3WGM) 14. Re: AO 85 operations (mvivona(a)yahoo.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:41:46 -0200 From: "PY5LF" <py5lf(a)falautomation.com.br> To: <AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org>, <starcom-bb(a)star-com.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO85 Pass Message-ID: <005301d118a9$a65282e0$f2f788a0$(a)falautomation.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi AO85 are very nice to work now ,much more stable. https://youtu.be/I03TQpguEic 73 PY5LF Luciano Fabricio Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 23:19:35 +0700 From: Karn Suwanrat <e20zfd(a)gmail.com> To: AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 FM UV Voice mode received over Bangkok, Thailand Message-ID: <CAKhufXtn26TnCsMHeXBKfvnaA-1Hu4Fu_Y6F866xhKW7CRx=zw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHiHmINIeE I could receive a FM Phone Mode for only a few second toward the end of the pass. So I don't know who was calling. Fox-1A (AO-85) Mode FM (U/V Transponder) Freq. 145.980 MHz Date 2015 NOV 6 Time 1523-1538UTC Max El 72 Rx By E20ZFD Grid OK03gs 73' Karn E20ZFD/AA1AF ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:23:09 -0500 From: skristof(a)etczone.com To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter Message-ID: <174f353930ba5d91bf3f16e2d30369c3(a)etczone.com> Content-Type: text/plain If I get one of these things, I would like to do it right and not screw up the network. What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon? I assume it's posted somewhere, but a quick search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a newbie like me. If these things get popular maybe a set of standards could be posted on the AMSAT and APRS websites. Steve AI9IN On 2015-11-06 10:36, Joe wrote: > with all the new computer capabilities, couldn't a ummm filter or something be made, that if it is a -11 signal. then regardless of what is being sent for hops it is ignored? if above "X" feet? > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com [1] > On 11/6/2015 9:19 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > It looks like it is time to restructure the entire APRS system Hams do a good job of self policing when they know the requirements and proper procedures. APRS hasn't failed in over 22 years. The purpose of this thread is to simply remind people that balloons should use the recommended path for balloons that can cover a million square miles, and not the same path they use for their car locally. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Doyle Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter It looks like it is time to restructure the entire APRS system. Any network that can be brought down by non-compliant clients has a big problem and should be restructured. Trying to police the entire world to make sure no one violates a protocol for a large scale open access network is sure to fail. 73 W9KE Tom Doyle On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an abomination >> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more often than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If those limits are not implemented in hardware, these devices could trash the national APRS frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to not adhere to these APRS standards because the operators are clueless to the netwrk constraints and apparently do nothing to research the proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [2] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [2] Links: ------ [1] http://www.idle-tyme.com [2] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:23:39 -0600 From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier(a)gmail.com> To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy(a)amsat.org> Cc: "amsat-bb(a)amsat.org" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now Message-ID: <CA+K5gzcHh86k369hU5ReA5aW+NLSkVBZs-ocvqfT+gYn+bRL0Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 And you all are doing a fabulous job. The only thing I remind my peers of is that people spend their own money and their valuable free time tapping their toes gleefully anticipating success and participation. I've been amongst the , now reformed, guilty. I don't do the answers as I'm too busy, but I support the need. We need more volunteers who want to support the engineers in this but must be trusted to help and not hinder. Having done this stuff for years, let me admonish users to remember that if you have a critique or question something, please approach it as if the engineer has already considered it and dealt with it and you'll find a willing conversationalist. We're all proud of our work and, no, we don't always get it right. But you can generally assume we've tried really hard to. Don't come into our house and toss the furniture about. You won't find us willing hosts to have you at our table. Respectfully and 73s, Bob N4HY On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, Jerry Buxton <n0jy(a)amsat.org> wrote: > A work in progress, one thing for consideration is that Chris also has > to work with me to provide versions that do Fox-1Cliff/D for our testing > of those as well as providing us the way to reliably get data to and > mine data from the server as we check out AO-85, so his time is > divided. The plus to that is that we are expecting releases before > 1Cliff/D that will provide automatic slow/high speed data switching and > better performance as you all provide feedback to help him learn what > needs tweaking. Testing FoxTelem on the ground with a satellite 3 feet > away or using a recording isn't the real deal of course, so just like > with the performance of Fox-1A AO-85 on orbit there are things to be > learned about real world performance of FoxTelem. > > Remember - it's a hobby. :-) > > Thank you for your support. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 11/4/2015 14:55, Bob KD7YZ wrote: > > On 04-Nov-15 1251, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > . I know, for example, that AC0RA is using an FCD > >> direct to FoxTelem and has submitted 2,703 frames. > > I too am FCDP+ straight to the 2m antenna > > > > As for FoxTelem not being totally hands-off. (A) the "Implementors" > > are/will fix that with the soon-here next release. > > > > (B) they also told me, or all of us, that irrespective of the Java > > crash, data collection goes on; data is stored; next re-start of PGM, > > the data is uploaded. > > > > So I ain't no more gonna worry 'bout it. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:49:22 -0500 From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga(a)usna.edu> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path) Message-ID: <efaeb7a6b27568da622dc4ed754191f9(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ARGH! You are right. SOmwhere over the last 22 years, the link and page BALLOONS.TXT file is gone. So I just added the path receommendation to the top of our page: http://aprs.org/balloons.html -----Original Message----- > What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon? > a quick search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a newbie like me. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert > Bruninga wrote: >> The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an abomination >> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more >> often than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If >> those limits are not implemented in hardware, these devices could >> trash the national APRS frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to >> not adhere to these APRS standards because the operators are clueless >> to the netwrk constraints and apparently do nothing to research the >> proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:50:19 -0500 From: skristof(a)etczone.com To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path) Message-ID: <5c2f63ab89d751a1e726b41a1afbd965(a)etczone.com> Content-Type: text/plain Perfect! Thank you very much. Steve AI9IN On 2015-11-06 11:49, Robert Bruninga wrote: > ARGH! You are right. SOmwhere over the last 22 years, the link and page > BALLOONS.TXT file is gone. > > So I just added the path receommendation to the top of our page: > http://aprs.org/balloons.html [1] > > -----Original Message----- > >> What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon? a quick search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a > > newbie like me. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert > Bruninga wrote: The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an abomination >> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more often than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If those limits are not implemented in hardware, these devices could trash the national APRS frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to not adhere to these APRS standards because the operators are clueless to the netwrk constraints and apparently do nothing to research the proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [2] Links: ------ [1] http://aprs.org/balloons.html [2] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:33:52 -0500 From: "Peter Budnik" <kb1hy2(a)comcast.net> To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEO PACK - FREE SHIPPING CONUS or BEST OFFER Message-ID: <DB4F1112E07D492E8702D56AF22573B6@PeterPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For Sale the M2 LEO SATELLITE Pack - Includes the 2MCP8A 2 Meter antenna and the 436CP16 70cm antenna and mounting boom. These antennas are like new and have been only up a few months. The antennas are together but can be taken apart for shipping. Have original shipping carton,manuals and lots of spare hardware and element clips. Can all so be picked up locally or can meet 50 miles or so miles to deliver.I do have pictures of them up if needed.Great antennas made many contacts on SO50 and FO29. Price is $400.00 shipped or meet for delivery. 73 Peter,KB1HY 860-713-8820 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:32:04 -0500 From: GW1FKY(a)aol.com To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO85 vs SO-50 Message-ID: <1ebc72.2147b3d.436e5a34(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Reference the comments on operating AO-85 by Dani ( M0HXM /EA4GPZ ) and the frequencies that he states that he uses Dani - Typing error I am sure .- You make reference to 436 Mhz but it should be 435 Mhz on the uplink. Regards and good luck. Ken Eaton GW1FKY Amsat -UK Amsat NA ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) From: James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations Message-ID: <1463096959.974232.1446843118709.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and so 50. ThanksJim KI6WJ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC) From: "mvivona(a)yahoo.com" <mvivona(a)yahoo.com> To: James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations Message-ID: <398922840.847250.1446844653178.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 James, There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a funny name that probably won't every make it. All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all over the world pop up. Wow... Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies". http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide… it out sometime, it's lots of fun. ?Michael KC4AVA From: James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and so 50. ThanksJim KI6WJ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:50:52 +0000 (UTC) From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl(a)ameritech.net> To: "mvivona(a)yahoo.com" <mvivona(a)yahoo.com>, James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations Message-ID: <1738206563.1061136.1446846652528.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Try this link (without the AMSAT-BB syntax error): http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide… GL/73, ? ? Bob ?K8BL From: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> To: James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net>; AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations James, There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a funny name that probably won't every make it. All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all over the world pop up. Wow... Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies". http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide… it out sometime, it's lots of fun. ?Michael KC4AVA ? ? ? From: James Brown <jimki6wj(a)sbcglobal.net> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations ? I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and so 50. ThanksJim KI6WJ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0800 From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF(a)comcast.net> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations Message-ID: <563D2423.6030805(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed You Know Michael for a guy that was complaining about not being able to receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When you were having troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem. It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a troll like you in the future. Kevin WA6FWF On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > James, > There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a funny name that probably won't every make it. > All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all over the world pop up. Wow... > Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies". > http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide… Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun. > Michael KC4AVA > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:09:35 -0000 From: "Jim Heck G3WGM" <jimlist(a)zoho.com> To: <amsat-bb(a)AMSAT.Org> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao-73/FUNcube mode change Message-ID: <C17BF3F10F614669BB7DB137A5CD0270@jimPC2> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Fold, I have just changed AO-73/FUNcube to full time transponder ON mode. As usual, plan it to revert to auto eclipse mode on Sun pm UTC. Enjoy 73s Jim G3WGM ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:31:24 +0000 (UTC) From: "mvivona(a)yahoo.com" <mvivona(a)yahoo.com> To: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF(a)comcast.net>, "amsat-bb(a)amsat.org" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations Message-ID: <2093595403.869396.1446849084608.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You are so right Kevin, now I feel terrible. ?Michael From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF(a)comcast.net> To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations You Know Michael? for a guy that was complaining about not being able to receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When? you were having troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem. It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a troll like you in the future. Kevin WA6FWF On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > James, > There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a funny name that probably won't every make it. > All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all over the world pop up. Wow... > Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies". > http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide… Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun. >? Michael KC4AVA > >? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat-bb(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 338 *****************************************

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M2 LEO PACK - FREE SHIPPING CONUS or BEST OFFER
by Peter Budnik 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

For Sale the M2 LEO SATELLITE Pack - Includes the 2MCP8A 2 Meter antenna and the 436CP16 70cm antenna and mounting boom. These antennas are like new and have been only up a few months. The antennas are together but can be taken apart for shipping. Have original shipping carton,manuals and lots of spare hardware and element clips. Can all so be picked up locally or can meet 50 miles or so miles to deliver.I do have pictures of them up if needed.Great antennas made many contacts on SO50 and FO29. Price is $400.00 shipped or meet for delivery. 73 Peter,KB1HY 860-713-8820

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Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path)
by Robert Bruninga 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

ARGH! You are right. SOmwhere over the last 22 years, the link and page BALLOONS.TXT file is gone. So I just added the path receommendation to the top of our page: http://aprs.org/balloons.html -----Original Message----- > What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon? > a quick search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a newbie like me. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert > Bruninga wrote: >> The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an abomination >> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more >> often than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If >> those limits are not implemented in hardware, these devices could >> trash the national APRS frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to >> not adhere to these APRS standards because the operators are clueless >> to the netwrk constraints and apparently do nothing to research the >> proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR

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Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
by Carlos Picoto 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Michael, I had the same issue using FoxTelem with Funcube directly. Instead I have HDSDR RF recording from Funcube and feed the recordings to FoxTelem afterwards. Carlos (AD7NP) Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:58 PM To: Dino Papas Cc: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything either. I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes will actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or Doppler lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets solid Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am always bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or so from AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part should be pretty straight forward. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s(a)cox.net> wrote: As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade from the latest Java to V6 - I’d love to work use the app but don’t want to have to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version. I know it’s an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn’t so but w/o some kind of workaround I’m reluctant to mess with it. Dino KL0S > On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz(a)denstarfarm.us> wrote: > > I've reported this to the wily programmers. > > However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring > program crash ... complaining about Java ?? > > > (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17) > > A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let > SatPC32 track. > > I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the > crash and the program needs re-start. > > I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I > want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed. > > -- > 73, > Bob KD7YZ > www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz > AmSat LM#901 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
by Steve Kristoff 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source APRS tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a pledge and I'd really like to see the project go. Check it out: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/139752… Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof(a)etczone.com

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AO-85 FM UV Voice mode received over Bangkok, Thailand
by Karn Suwanrat 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHiHmINIeE I could receive a FM Phone Mode for only a few second toward the end of the pass. So I don't know who was calling. Fox-1A (AO-85) Mode FM (U/V Transponder) Freq. 145.980 MHz Date 2015 NOV 6 Time 1523-1538UTC Max El 72 Rx By E20ZFD Grid OK03gs 73' Karn E20ZFD/AA1AF

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AO85 Pass
by PY5LF 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Hi AO85 are very nice to work now ,much more stable. https://youtu.be/I03TQpguEic 73 PY5LF Luciano Fabricio Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF

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BRICSAT-1 recovery challenge
by Robert Bruninga 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

If anyone has 9600 baud satellite capability and is looking for a challenge, you could be successful in recovering BRICSAT (NO83). BRICSAT simply has a negative power budget. When it wakes up, it should be possible to get in the command to tell it to turn off unnecessary loads and then let it achieve full recovery. As is, it wakes up, sends a few feeble 20 second packets and dies again. Bricsat has another excellent PSK31 transpodner on it too. You can detect BRICSAT when it awakes by the 20 second packet on the downlink OR by the occasional PSK31 beacon on 435.350 MHz (+/- Doppler). Do not be confused by PSAT which also has a PSK31 tranpsonder on the same frequency. But they have different audio tones for the beacon. > Downlink: 437.975 MHz, 9600 baud > Uplink: 145.825 MHz, 9600 baud > Latest “guess” at the TLE (not sure if this is BRICSat) > 1 90722U 15294.38156592 +.00051032 +00000-0 +11686-2 0 0166 > 2 90722 054.9895 030.6075 0226665 199.3544 159.8861 15.1979213102332 The commands are simple keyboard dumb terminal commands. If you think you want to take on this challenge, contact us. Bob Bruninga, WB4aPR Jin Kang, KB3UKS US Naval Academy

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Satellite APRS Double hop
by Sil 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Hi, This afternoon both PSAT and the ISS were visible from my location at the same time and likely close enough to each other that a "double hop" was probably possible. I am not sure what the best path to use would be to do this. Any suggestions? It would be fun to make an QSO into Western Australia this way. Sil

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AO-85 vs SO-50 for newbies with modest equipment
by Felix Paez 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Hi everybody from Spain, first of all, thanks for your patience. I am a new HAM since October 2014 and I have just begun with satellites some months ago... I want to add the point of view of a newbie to sat operation like me to the list, specially for people that could be beginning like me. First of all, as a newbie, I only have a Baofeng UV-5R (half duplex) and an Elk Antenna. I think this could be the very first beginning equipment for everybody (this is only 30 eur + 200 eur = 230 eur). I use ISS detector for tracking (it is better for me than Amsat Droid Free because it has a compass, so the track is really easy). When a SAT is going to pass near my QTH I go down to a park after walking 15 mins and there I connect the Elk to the Baofeng. With this, it has been very easy for me making contacts in SO-50 including not very high passes. Why? Because when I hear people I know I can work them. When I hear somebody calling, I am sure that when I press the PTT i will be in the SAT. Hearing people gives you a lot of information in SO-50. This is not the same when I try AO-85. I hear people all the time, but that does not guarantee me they will hear me. Maybe I am 5 Khz down or maybe I am 5 Khz up and because I am working half duplex, I can't check it. I have to wait for silences and try other freq. I haven't been able yet to make a contact in AO-85. The conclusion for me is that it is easy to work V/U FM satellites in half duplex and it is complicated in U/V at least for people beginning like me. I tell this because I have read in the AO-85 document all the advantages that U/V mode has but I don't know if that compensates the added difficult it has for people working with modest half duplex equipment. So this does not seem an entry satellite to begin with... This is a just beginner comment on the SAT. I am sure in next passes I will be able to make some contacts with some luck (I am going to buy a Midland CT-890 full duplex HT too). I want to congrat the AO-85 team for their work. It is indeed a great sat! :) but I wanted to share my thought about if it is not better to have and V/U repeater than an U/V one. Thanks everybody. I am learning a lot with this list. Felix - EA4GQS

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