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oscar-1 launched 12 Dec 1961
by Robert Turlington 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

gentlemen its coming up to 46 years since the first hamsat was launched 12 Dec 1961 and after the success of GB5OSO for 50th Anni of Sputnik-1 ,how about some activity or perhaps even an OSCAR day similar to Cosmonautics dayRegards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk

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Problems to access the site of amsat-dl
by i8cvs 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Hi All, Since to day I cannot enter anymore the site http://www.amsat-dl.org As soon I attemp to connect the above site via Internet Explorer I receive a message suggesting to dowload a file sent by amsat-dl The above message allow three options: 1) Read directly the file 2) Save the file on disk 3) Ignore At the end of any of the above three options Internet Explorer closes down going back to desktop. I downloaded the file wich name resulted to be amsat-dl without any extension The same happens to my friend Fulvio IV3IBX All other sites are working perfectly as before. Any suggestion ? TNX and 73" de i8CVS Domenico

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Ui-view
by Robert Roy 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Have donated and registered for UI-view and need the email address of adminstrator.....have a snail-mail address in the UK....thanks for help...Rob Roy W4PZA

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pcsat/iss qsl
by Mr Jeffrey L Ross 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Heres my copy of pcsat/iss over the weekend. Nice to see we can still work the iss bbs. KC8GKF 37 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:37 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:37 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 06:37 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:38 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 06:38 KD8ATF-2/RS0ISS-4*>ARISS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): RYAN IN FORT ASHBY WV 73 VIA PCSAT 06:38 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:38 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:38 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 06:38 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 06:38 KD8ATF-2/RS0ISS-4*>ARISS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): RYAN IN FORT ASHBY WV 73 VIA PCSAT 06:38 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:38 VE3TZS/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4429.40N/08003.33WM ve3tzs(a)mac.com 06:39 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 06:39 KC2QZF-15/WIDE2-2>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :EMAIL :[email protected] SSET Beacon Test 06:39 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:39 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 06:39 N1DP/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4440.45N/06744.03W-FN64 Maine {UISS51} 06:39 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:39 WA1KAT/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4239.70N/07057.02W-Topsfield,MA 5w vertical 06:39 KD8ATF-2/RS0ISS-4*>ARISS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): RYAN IN FORT ASHBY WV 73 VIA PCSAT 06:39 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:39 VE3TZS/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4429.40N/08003.33WM ve3tzs(a)mac.com 06:40 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:40 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 06:40 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 06:40 KD8ATF-2/RS0ISS-4*>ARISS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): RYAN IN FORT ASHBY WV 73 VIA PCSAT 06:40 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 06:40 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 08:11 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 08:12 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 08:13 KC2QZF-15/WIDE2-2>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :EMAIL :[email protected] SSET Beacon Test 08:13 WA1KAT/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4239.70N/07057.02W-Topsfield,MA 5w vertical 08:14 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 08:14 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 08:15 KC2QZF-15/WIDE2-2>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :EMAIL :[email protected] SSET Beacon Test 08:15 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 09:49 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 09:49 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 09:49 N0LRG-5/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =3800.88N/09245.29W->> Lake of the Ozark's Camdenton, Mo. n0lrg2005(a)yahoo.com 09:50 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 09:50 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 09:50 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 09:50 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 09:50 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 10:03 N0AN-6/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 10:04 KG0YJ-3/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,C,F0 (1200 baud): =3841.47N/09029.98W- Beacon frm Bill in MO via ISS 10:04 WA4AEJ/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =3031.90N/08626.94Wr 10:04 KB1GVR/PCSAT-1*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 10:04 KG0YJ-3/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,C,F0 (1200 baud): =3841.47N/09029.98W- Beacon frm Bill in MO via ISS 10:04 N0AN-6/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 10:04 PCSAT-1/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#079,078,100,053,132,214,00110111,0010,1 10:04 VE3TZS/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4429.40N/08003.33WM ve3tzs(a)mac.com 10:05 KB1GVR/PCSAT-1*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 10:05 WA4AEJ/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =3031.90N/08626.94Wr 10:05 PCSAT-1/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): 182034z set 68h timer by JF1AJE 10:05 N0AN-6/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 10:05 PCSAT-1/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#080,149,149,060,208,214,00110111,0011,1 10:07 N0AN-6/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:23 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:23 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4258.03N/07845.17W`CQ de John KB2HSH-FN02ox- 11:23 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:23 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :N0AN-6 :Hello from John KB2HSH-FN02 11:24 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:24 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4258.03N/07845.17W`CQ de John KB2HSH-FN02ox- 11:24 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:24 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 11:24 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:24 N1XED/RS0ISS-4*/RELAY/WIDE2-2>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :KB1GVR :MORNING MARK 11:25 N1XED/RS0ISS-4*/RELAY/WIDE2-2>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4418.67N/07145.62W-Littleton, NH FN44ch {UISS50} 11:25 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): :KB2HSH :GM John.{52 11:25 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:25 KC2QZF-15/WIDE2-2>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :EMAIL :[email protected] SSET Beacon Test 11:25 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:25 N1XED/RS0ISS-4*/RELAY/WIDE2-2>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :KB2HSH :Good Morning JOHN 11:25 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :N1XED :Good Morning 11:25 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:25 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): :N1XED :good morning Rik{53 11:25 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 11:25 VE3TZS/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4429.40N/08003.33WM ve3tzs(a)mac.com 11:25 WA4AEJ/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =3031.90N/08626.94Wr 11:26 KB8CMW/RS0ISS-4*/PCSAT-1>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): >gm all 11:26 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>APU16N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): :KB1GVR :ack54 11:26 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:26 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 11:26 N1XED/RS0ISS-4*/RELAY/WIDE2-2>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :WA4AEJ :GOOD MORNING DALE 11:26 KA1GL-4/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE2-2>APX192>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =/9ETL;jm)- >FN31ar, Frank, Poughkeepsie, NY 11:26 N2ONU/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE/STAN>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4039.28N/07300.68W- Valley Stream, Long Island, NY n2onu(a)arrl.net 11:26 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4258.03N/07845.17W`CQ de John KB2HSH-FN02ox- 11:26 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): :KC8CMW :GM Paul{56 11:26 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 11:26 KB8CMW/RS0ISS-4*/PCSAT-1>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): >glad to see packet on!!! 11:26 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 11:26 KB2HSH/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :N2ONU :Hello from John KB2HSH-FN02 11:26 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4436.18N/06826.92W-FN54 Maine {UIV32N} 11:26 KB1GVR/RS0ISS-4*>APU25N>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): :KA1GL-4 :GM Frank{57 11:28 N2ONU/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE/STAN>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :KB1GVR :Hi Marc 12:57 VE3LIZ/RS0ISS-4*>APM352>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4354.58N/07851.05WMPHG3208/443.475 -VE3OUR-OSHAWA-352-<02f> 12:57 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 12:57 WA6YET/RS0ISS-4*/EM36>WAYNE>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): 12:57 WD0BQM-9/RS0ISS-4*/WIDE>T1UWPS>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): 'oL.lqlk/]"AK}wd0bqm(a)amsat.org 12:57 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 12:58 WA6YET/RS0ISS-4*/EM36>WAYNE>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): 12:59 KC2QZF-15/WIDE2-2>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): :EMAIL :[email protected] SSET Beacon Test 12:59 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 12:59 N2ONU/RS0ISS-4*/SGATE/WIDE/STAN>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4039.28N/07300.68W- Valley Stream, Long Island, NY n2onu(a)arrl.net 12:59 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 13:00 K4IPH/RS0ISS-4*>BEACON>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): =4035.60N/07934.40W-Bob in Vandergrift, Pa 13:00 N0AN-6/RS0ISS-4*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud): =4205.00N/09400.00WS73' Via Sat {UISS50} 13:00 RS0ISS-4/SGATE>CQ>UI,R,F0 (1199 baud): >ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on) 13:00 KB1NBU/RS0ISS-4*>CQ>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :KB1GVR :Hi Mark

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AO51 pass and AL800
by Ed Tump 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Folks, Just finished up a bit ago with the AO51 pass at approx 0100 UTC. This time I had my HT connected to the AL800 antenna instead of the car top antenna. It does make a nice difference. I was sort of able to "tune" the sat in better this time with adjusting the aim and angle. Heard a lot of stations very clearly. Tried to TX one time but no one came back. I will keep trying. Thanks to all that helped. Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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early satellite history
by Ronald Long 19 Nov '07

19 Nov '07

Some of you might enjoy reading these recollections about the development of Telstar, one of the first active satellites, at Bell Laboratories. The article is by J. R. Pierce, who was a well-known executive and scientist at Bell. http://www.smecc.org/john_pierce1.htm Here is a very interesting article about the development of Echo, the balloon satellite, also written by Pierce. http://www.smecc.org/john_pierce___echoredo.htm I remember when we at Ohio State recorded President Eisenhower's message relayed by Echo. I have lost the tape, however. ron

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SATPC32 + Labjack + VISTA = ?
by Alan P. Biddle 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

Hi, I am considering moving to a VISTA machine. I know that SATPC32 works under VISTA, but I am wondering whether the Labjack driver and interface work correctly. Any experiences? Alan WA4SCA

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2007 VRS Volunteer Hours on AMSAT Projects needed
by Gunther Meisse 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

Attention AMSAT Volunteers: It is that time of the year again. We need to be sure as many volunteer hours as possible have been reported to the VRS (Volunteer Reporting System) on the AMSAT web site. Over the last few years thousands of dollars of volunteer time have been reported and we are sure this year will be our largest given all the work that has done on Eagle, The new Lab, RideShare, SDR, SDT, and the like. If you are already registered on the VRS site please take a few minutes and report these 2006 hours. If you have not reported before, please visit amsat.org, register, and help us keep track of this important aspect of the AMSAT mission. We'll keep the year open until the middle of January but hope you will take the time within the next couple weeks to update your report. You may combine your efforts for the entire year into one filing if that would make the process more convenient. Looking forward to your reports. Have a great holiday season. Regards, Gunther Meisse W8GSM AMSAT Treasurer

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AMSAT at Ft. Wayne
by Jeff Davis, KE9V 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

I had a good time at the Ft Wayne (Indiana) Hamfest yesterday and I caught Gerd, WB8IFM manning the AMSAT booth and speaking at the AMSAT forum. http://ke9v.smugmug.com/photos/222644028-L.jpg http://ke9v.smugmug.com/photos/222648515-L.jpg 73, -- Jeff, KE9V

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AMSAT-UK and ESA Co-operation on GENSO
by Trevor 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

The European Space Agency (ESA) has published details of the 5th GENSO workshop which took place in Aalborg, Denmark. For links and further details see the news item "AMSAT-UK and ESA Co-operation on GENSO" at the AMSAT-UK website: http://www.uk.amsat.org/ BTW a recent NASA picture clearly shows the two ARISS antennas on Columbus, details at http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/columbus_amateur_radio_antenn… 73 Trevor M5AKA ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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GO-32 SSET messages
by Mineo Wakita 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

JE9PEL>APRS,4XTECH* [11/18/07 10:02:46z] <UI R>::EMAIL :[email protected] /SatSE Test WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,THIRD::JE9PEL :EMail message delivered OK{825 APRS Message from JE9PEL From: [email protected] To: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:02:52 -0500 (EST) /SatSE Test Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ APRS path = JE9PEL>APRS,TCPIP*,qAC,T2SOCAL

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AO-16 soundcard BPSK demodulator
by Wouter Jan Ubbels 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

Hi all, with AO-16 coming back to live, I have put some more work into Warbler, a JAVA 1200bit/s BPSK AX.25 soundcard demodulator. A Beta version can be found and downloaded at: http://home.casema.nl/b.ubbels/Warbler.htm note that this is a work in progress, the program is still in its early stages, more polishing will be done as time permits :) 73 Wouter Jan Ubbels PE4WJ

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Re: AO-16 soundcard BPSK demodulator
by Mineo Wakita 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

I tried to test it for AO-16 BPSK. Very Nice! de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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PicoPacket on PCSAT/ECHO
by Roger Kolakowski 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

I picked up an early PicoPacket at a recent flea and I'm trying to set it up for the handheld and the sats. I already have a TNC-3 (ver 6.0) so naturally I figured that I could work out the commands. Not so. I got it talking to the computer at 9600 baud but any sent packets are read on the screen as gibberish (though real alphabetic/numeric gibberish, not the symbols you see when you are at the wrong baud rate.) Of course there is no quick start guide or manual with it and the company seems to have successfully kept such things off the net. I have Googled what little brains I have left, out. Can someone help walk me through a basic setup or does anyone have a copy of the quickstart guide (or the manual if it's not too long?) Startup version is 1995 so it doesn't have any of the 2 port upgrades to it or anything...just plain old vanilla. Please reply off list direct to Rogerkola at aol dot com. Thanks in advance! Roger WA1KAT

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Planetarium program?
by Alan P. Biddle 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

Hi, Any recommendations of a good freeware planetarium program, or web site, where you can put in the parameters of an object such as a comet and your QTH, and get the azimuth and elevation? Somewhat off topic, but someone who saw my antennas asked. Google of course is very productive, probably too much so. 73s, Alan WA4SCA

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PCSAT QSL
by Mr Jeffrey L Ross 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

HI, HERES MY COPY OF PCSAT THIS AM. USED MIXW WITH A HT AND OUTDOOR ANT. LOOKING FOR THE ISS. 73 KC8GKF 09:23 PCSAT-1/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#671,113,125,120,107,214,00111111,0010,1 09:23 KG0YJ-3/PCSAT-1*>APRS>UI,C,F0 (1200 baud): =3841.47N/09029.98W- Beacon frm Bill in MO via ISS 11:02 VE3FFR/W3ADO-1*/SGATE/WIDE>APRS>UI,R,F0 (1200 baud): =4416.01N/07629.01W- (UIV32N) 11:04 W4RVZ/W3ADO-1*>APRS>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): =3610.46N/07628.25W-Hertford NC/FM16 {UISS33} 11:04 W3ADO-1/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#001,018,060,098,045,214,00111111,0000,1 11:06 VE3FFR/W3ADO-1*/SGATE/WIDE>APRS

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FAO Kevin WA6FWF - Sputnik
by Dave Aitch 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

Hi Kevin. I have sent you the details you requested with three different e-mail addresses. Two have been bounced back. Have you received ALL the information your require yet ? 73, Dave. G1OCN.

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boyscouts
by Nick Pugh 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

Hi ALL I will be at Boy Scout winter camp teaching radio merit badge. I will be qrv on the sats with a hand held. Please give me a call K5QXJ thanks nick

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Announcement: ANDE de-Orbit AWARD
by Henk, PA3GUO 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

ANDE (NO-61) will de-orbit somewhere in the next 4 weeks. We do not know exactly, but that's the challenge and the fun ! For these last weeks a special event is launched, and everyone is invited to participate ! A special ANDE de-Orbit AWARD can be obtained by everyone that makes QSOs via ANDE or receives telemetry during its final 10 days in space. On the AWARD your callsign and achievements will be mentioned: ANDE APRS QSOs: -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 point for each 2 way APRS QSO over ANDE in its last 10 days of life. Example: 00:01:31:24 : KB1GVR]APU25N,ANDE-1*,qAO,K8YSE-6::KC2PCR :GA Doug 00:01:31:42 : KC2PCR]APRS,ANDE-1*,qAO,KB2CEV::KB1GVR :G'Afternoon Mark ;) ANDE Telemetry Reception: -------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 points for telemetry packets on the last day 9 points for telemetry packets on the last day -1 ... 1 point for telemetry packets on the last day -9 In total 55 Telemetry points can be achieved, all to be scored in the last 10 days Bob, WB4APR, will set the official date/time of de-orbit. The 10 days before that date then count for the calculation of your achievements.... ... but you do not know before that when those days will be :-) To obtain the award participates should, within 2 weeks after ANDE de-orbits, email his/her own score + proof (the packets). Further details like (shipping) costs and the submission email address will be announced in the coming days. Have fun - and keep ANDE busy in its final exciting days in space ! Bob, WB4APR Mike, DK3WN Henk, PA3GUO For questions on the award please contact PA3GUO (pa3guo @ amsat.org) For current status of ANDE: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html

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What a SSET reply looks like through PCSAT
by Roger Kolakowski 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

Thanks to Bob APR and Fred W1WYC, I finally got my format correct and received this on the first pass of PCSAT this afternoon: ----- Original Message ----- From: <ksproul(a)rci.rutgers.edu> To: <wa1kat(a)amsat.org> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: APRS Message from WA1KAT > > checking in for sset ! From Boston > > -------------------------- > Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z > Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ > APRS path = WA1KAT>BEACON,PCSAT-1*,WIDE2-1,qAO,K8YSE-6 >

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GO-32 Questions
by John Marranca, Jr 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Hello everybody. Firstly... just a quick thanks to Bob, WB4APR for helping me..."correct"...my very bad APRS settings. As I told Bob, I carried over the HF mentality of "work as far as you can, and as many as you can". OK...now...in regards to GO-32. I have changed my settings in AGWPE for 9600 baud. I have started up UISS, and I've captured a few snippets of info here and there. But I can't transmit to it. What am I missing here? Is it due to Doppler? Is it because the requirements at 9600 are MUCH more strict than at 1200? Is it because I'm QRP? I want to be able to use this bird once PCSAT goes nighty-night in a few days, as well as ANDE rejoining us here on Earth. Thanks in advance, my friends. John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Re: AL-800
by Clint Bradford 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

The AL-800 places a great deal of stress on your BNC connector - please be very careful when using it. I prefer the Smiley 270A, with its built-in spring at the bottom. I even use their SMA model with confidence. http://www.htantennas.com Clint Bradford, K6LCS 909-241-7666

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Re: How to build your ownSputnik
by George Henry 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Aitch <dave(a)g1ocn.com> >Sent: Nov 16, 2007 3:43 AM >To: Howard Long <howard(a)howardlong.com>, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] How to build your ownSputnik > >Top man Howard ! > >How about a balloon tethered event with your device ? > >73, Dave. > That would be a very impressive demo! Here in the US, it would have to have provisions to ID, just like a terrestrial repeater, if it were flown below 50 kM, though. (that may even be an ITU requirement... not sure) Excellent work on the build, Howard! Looks every bit the "official" Cubesat. I was thinking along the lines of a large coffee can, although it wouldn't lend itself to mounting of the solar panels as well as your cube frame does. Could still work as the "core" of either a cube or hexagonal spaceframe... 73, George, KA3HSW

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PCSAT 1130z this morning
by John Marranca, Jr 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Hello all. Is it just me, or is PCSAT becoming somewhat deaf? This morning's 1130z pass was impossible to utilize...even with it being a 40 degree pass for me. I can work this satellite at elevations as low as 3 degrees...wondering if its dying already? John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | How to build your own Sputnik
by Bob Twiggs 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Here is a challenge. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7049002.stm Bob KE6QMD

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Re: BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | How to build your own Sputnik
by GW1FKY＠aol.com 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

In a message dated 16/11/2007 03:26:43 GMT Standard Time, howard(a)howardlong.com writes: http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/Build%20Your%20Own%20Satellite.doc Hi Howard, Good Luck with your project. Likewise I considered my demo satellite that I had constructed using the drum removed from an old washing machine. I did not submit it however as I thought perhaps some young blood out there would come up some idea perhaps. It was able to transmit and receive on 2 metre, 70 cm and 2.4 Ghz. and able to demonstrate ,packet , voice, and send video pictures . It also sent voice identification and details of is operating frequencies using a simple module that I extracted from a very cheap device. To also make it realastic to demonstrate with young people I built in a module from handheld PMR so that they could talk thro it without need for a licence. The 2.4 Ghz unit was a camera and TX unit used in a TV remote senders which are around so cheap. I also got for only £9 a remote temperature sensor TX together with the mon itor (operates 433 Mhz) For the radio amateur modules I picked used boards from faulty handhelds that I picked for a song. Agree also on the source of solar panels, but I also went to a major store and offered to buy quite a number of solar garden lights that had been returned as faulty. The solar cells were OK on most of ther units but even new units are so cheap to buy especially this time of the year. Of course for a " Ground based satellite" no worries about all of the documentation,safety, risk analysis and of course "Launch cost" - Hi! Good luck and enjoy the fun. Regards Ken GW1FKY

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Recording passes
by Ed Tump 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Folks, Tonight I was able to receive and record the AO-51 pass over my QTH at approx 0145UTC. When I listened to the recording it appears I recorded it a little too "hot." What I did was split the audio from the radio and one to the recorder and one to my headset. What do you folks do? And thanks to all who have been my Elmers during my current "new guy" phase. Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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G6LVB tracker board cases
by Stargate 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Anyone know if the G6LVB tracking board custom cases are available yet? Thanks, RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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Anyone using the AL-800
by Ed Tump 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Folks, The local ham store has this in stock: Pryme Radio Products AL-800 Telescoping HT Antenna. I am thinking of picking it up tomorrow for the HT for sats as well as other uses. Anyone using it have good or bad things to say before I buy? Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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PCSAT-1 UPLINK over Europe
by Robert Bruninga 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Here is why some low power stations have trouble getting into PCSAT over Europe. One station is transmitting his packet every 12 seconds. If he would back off to once a minute as recommended, five times as many people could be successful. 00:01:37:11 : EA4HP-9]T1RPPR,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'wBx"r_R/]":!}SAT APRS 00:01:37:24 : EA4HP-9]T1RPPT,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'wBO"|`R/]":4}SAT APRS 00:01:37:33 : F9XG]APU16N,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6::DF4FO-1 :Hello Fred 73!{05 00:01:37:42 : F9XG]CQ,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:=/5Kw+NPI4- B--George 00:01:37:52 : EA4HP-9]T1RPRW,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'wB"r"R/]":5}SAT APRS 00:01:38:05 : EA4HP-9]T1RPUT,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'wAq"q|R/]"9w}SAT APRS 00:01:38:12 : F9XG]APU16N,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6::DF4FO-1 :Hello Fred 73!{05 00:01:38:59 : EA4HP-9]T1RQRV,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w@{"r:R/]"9u}SAT APRS 00:01:39:07 : EA4HP-9]T1RQST,W3ADO-1*,qAo,G4HYG-1:'w@p"r:R/]"9{}SAT APRS 00:01:39:15 : EA4HP-9]T1RQTT,W3ADO-1*,qAo,G4HYG-1:'w@["rIR/]"9w}SAT APRS 00:01:39:29 : EA4HP-9]T1RQUS,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w@C"hQR/]"9j}SAT APRS 00:01:39:34 : DF4FO-1]CQ,W3ADO-1*,SGATE,WIDE,qAo,ON7EQ::EA4HP-9 :..73`s !.. 00:01:39:35 : F9XG]APU16N,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6::DF4FO-1 :Hello Fred 73!{05 00:01:39:42 : EA4HP-9]T1RQVQ,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w@##"HR/]"9p}SAT APRS 00:01:39:55 : EA4HP-9]T1RQWS,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w?b"hOR/]":0}SAT APRS 00:01:40:09 : EA4HP-9]T1RQXP,W3ADO-1*,qAo,G4HYG-1:'w?@"rMR/]":E}SAT APRS 00:01:40:23 : 2E1EBX]CQ,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:=5256.66N/00029.53E-les-- 00:01:40:25 : DF4FO-1]CQ,W3ADO-1*,SGATE,WIDE,qAo,EI7IG::EA4HP-9 :..73`s !.. 00:01:40:34 : EA4HP-9]T1RRPT,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w]w"^3R/]":l}SAT APRS 00:01:40:42 : EA4HP-9]T1RRPY,W3ADO-1*,qAo,G4HYG-1:'w]e"",R/]":x}SAT APRS 00:01:40:46 : EA4HP-9]T1RRQW,W3ADO-1*,qAO,EA4EKH-6:'w]]"",R/]";/}SAT APRS

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Re: TNC Recommendation
by Mark L. Hammond 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Hi John, Living in the US makes buying an overseas satellite-ready tnc (or dsp based modem/tnc) quite expensive these days. Right now, I'd put 2 at the top of my list (either one is fine, user choice): The Paccomm Spirit-2 *Satellite model* (good to 38k4 packet!) http://www.paccomm.com/spirit.html and The Kantronics KPC-9612+ (also good to 38k4!) http://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html The poor exchange rates and international shipping make the other choices MUCH more expensive for something you really may never need. You can run 9600 baud digital birds just fine with either unit. And, if you get hooked ;) they will move up to 38k4 packet when you're ready. My $0.02 :) Maybe I'll see you Sunday at JARSFEST!!! Hoping to attend. 73, Mark _________ TNC Reccomendation • Subject : [amsat-bb] TNC Reccomendation • From : "John Henderson" < jah@xxxxxxxxx > • Date : Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:07:14 -0500 I would like to get into the digital sats and would like some ideas on TNC to consider. I looked at the MFJ web site but it appears they have discontinued many of their models. Also looking KAM but have no idea which one to pick. Appears major deltas are baud rates 1200 vs 9600. Thanks for any ideas or things to consider. John John Henderson N4NAB 212 Bayside Drive Cape Carteret, NC 28584 252-725-2744 < mailto:[email protected] > n4nab(a)amsat.org < http://www.amsat.org/ > http://www.amsat.org/ -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

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CQ Frank Perkins WB5IPM CQ
by Mark L. Hammond 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Hello AMSAT-ers, I am really interested in contacing Frank Perkins, WB5IPM. I have tried all of the email possiblities in my archives, but all messages have now bounced. Does anyone on the list have his contact information? The best I can find is a Texas address using QRZ. I can't seem to dig up a phone number using the web... I have some questions (okay, a favor to ask ;) ) regarding the 1200 PSK modem code he wrote for the TAPR/AMSAT DSP-93. Thanks in advance for any information you might provide! 73, -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

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Sound card interface cables?
by John Marranca, Jr 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Good Morning all. I have to agree with JPE: Buxcomm. I have had a Rascal since 2004, and I've been satisfied completely. I've bought numerous cables from Buck since the cable from the interface to the radio is interchangeable. (I have the HTX-10 cable and the MDIN cable for my Yaesu) Good Luck! John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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OSCAR-11 Report
by Clive Wallis 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

OSCAR-11 REPORT 15 November 2007 RECEPTION REPORTS REQUESTED! Please send reception reports to xxxxx(a)amsat.org (please replace xxxxx by g3cwv) or post to amsat-bb. If you are able to record the satellite as a WAV file, please do so, but let me know what you have, before sending it! If you need to hear what the satellite sounds like, please visit my website www.users.zetnet.co.uk/clivew/ The satellite transmits on 145.826 MHz. set receiver to NBFM. --------- During the period 22 October to 15 November 2007 no signals have been received from the satellite. However, Thomas HB9SKA has reported hearing the satellite on 27 October, 18:00 UTC pass. Eclipses have now started and are expected to continue until mid January 2008. Although the maximum duration of the current eclipses is less than those earlier this year, it is doubtful whether the satellite will be heard for any sustained period. While in continuous sunlight during September and October the satellite was unable to support continuous operation. It is likely than the satellite will only be heard by chance, by stations listening for other satellites on 145.826 Mhz. I am indebted to John N7ZL, John N3NKC, Thomas HB9SKA, and Peter ZL3TC, for their reports. Many thanks. The current status of the satellite, is that all the analogue telemetry channels, 0 to 59 are zero, ie they have failed. The status channels 60 to 67 are still working. The real time clock is showing a large accumulated error, although over short periods timekeeping is accurate to a few seconds per month. The day of the month has a bit stuck at 'one' so the day of the month may show an error of +40 days for some dates. The time display has switched into 12 hour mode. Unfortunately, there is no AM/PM indicator, since the time display format was designed for 24 hour mode. More data is required to determine exactly when the date changes. The spacecraft computer and active attitude control system have switched OFF, ie. the satellite' attitude is controlled only by the passive gravity boom gradient, and the satellite is free to spin at any speed. When telemetry was last received it showed that one of the solar arrays had failed, and there was a large unexplained current drain on the main 14 volt bus. After 23 years in orbit the battery has undergone around 100,000 partial charge/discharge cycles, and observations suggest that it cannot power the satellite during eclipses, or sometimes during periods of poor solar attitude. The watchdog timer now operates on a 20 day cycle. The ON/OFF times have tended to be very consistent. The average of many observations show this to be 20.7 days, ie. 10.3 days ON followed by 10.4 days OFF. However, poor solar attitude may result may result in a low 14 volt line supply, which may cause the beacon to switch OFF prematurely, and reset the watchdog timer cycle. When this occurs, the beacon is OFF for 20.7 days. The Beacon frequencies are - VHF 145.826 MHz. AFSK FM ASCII Telemetry UHF 435.025 MHz. OFF S-band 2401.5 MHz. OFF Listeners to OSCAR-11 may be interested in visiting my website. If you need to know what OSCAR-11 should sound like, there is a short audio clip for you to hear. There is an example of the latest telemetry received from the satellite. The website contains an archive of news & telemetry data. It also contains details about using a soundcard or hardware demodulators for data capture. There is software for capturing data, and decoding ASCII telemetry. The URL is www.users.zetnet.co.uk/clivew/ If you place this bulletin on a terrestrial packet network, please use the bulletin identifier $BID:U2RPT139.CWV, to prevent duplication. 73 Clive G3CWV xxxxx(a)amsat.org (please replace xxxxx by g3cwv)

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Re: Useless information dept
by Edward Cole 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Actually after being a QRPp eme operator for almost 9-years, I can recommend it to you John. Of course QRP for eme is a little more RF than 20 dBm. But I run a little over 50 dBm RF on 2m-eme (that's 125w to you Amsat folks). I now have worked over 100 stations on eme. QRP for eme is 400w, so 125w qualifies as QRPp. My antenna is only 21 dBi (4 yagis). EME in the digital world is a lot different than the old CW days. Folks are working eme with an AO-10 2m yagi (13 dBi) and 100w! 73, Ed - KL7UW At 11:07 AM 11/14/2007, Reicher, James wrote: >John, >The fact that you're a dedicated QRP operator means that you should have >the best darned antenna system in the world. QRP just means low-power. >It doesn't have to mean you're deaf! > >Putting that 100mw into a 40dB gain EME array will do more for your >signal that putting 2KW into a 1/4 wave wire strung in the attic, unless >your goal is to melt the snow off your roof. > > >73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO (ex-N8AU) > >Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear >bright until you hear them speak. > > > >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:06:58 +0100 >From: John Hackett <archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Useless information dept: >To: "Eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com" <eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com> >Cc: allan_gm1sxx(a)hotmail.com, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Message-ID: <BAY120-W262646C5A022770957AD1F91810(a)phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >About the only thing I havn't tried in radio in 40 odd years is EME - >but that is entirely due to aerial (and cash) restrictions. > >How does a dedicated QRP operator justify an EME array? - it just can't >be done on a wet shoelace wrapped around a rusty 6 inch nail ... (though >I am of the impression that a lot of satellite operators use this >particular configuration on AO-7). > >I digress - in the aforementioned 40 odd years, that which still gets my >juices cooking is a 'fast' CW QSO on AO-7 with either RW3XL or UA9CS ... >in Russian. > >Now that's !!! international communication by amateur radio. > >The kids ought to watch such a QSO in progress (translated live). > >Every bit as interesting as the Jay Leno SMS v CW video on U-Tube and it >would probably get a few enquiring minds in gear. > >(Ah!, there was !!! a point to his waffling.....GM1SXX). > >He's the other half of the "twisted pair" folks ... see - > >http://www.observations.biz/ > >73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org> > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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Help please from folks with soundcard "TNCs"
by Ed Tump 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Folks, I had a few replies to my last email on those using sound cards for packet radio. For those that are using their sound card, please let me know what type(s) of software you have used for APRS, local traffic, and the sats (1200,9600). I did go online and buy a sound card interface for my Yaesu. Just have to wait for it to get here. I bought it from buxcom.com I had a few replies buy stupid me hit the wrong key and poof those replies were gone. Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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PCSAT PATH
by ryan woods 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Hi bob in the group in need help with the pcsat path I understand that we are to use WIDEn-n but I can not get digi. I have tried CQ VIA WIDE2-2,ARISS VIA PCSAT-1,ARISS VIA WIDE2-2 and WIDE2-2 VIA PCSAT-1. Im using a D700 with hyperterminal and I allmost a 100% copy of pcsat all the time so if someone can tell me what im doing wrong that will be welcome 73 ryan KD8ATF ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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FAO Kevin WA6FWF - Ref Sputnik
by Dave Aitch 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Hi Kevin. Not sure if you are receiving my mail direct. Did you receive the details you requested from me ? If not, I can use another address. 73, Dave.

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AO27 pass today
by Ed Tump 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Folks, Today I was at least able to hear a bit of the pass of AO27 at about 2045UTC using my HT and car top antenna. I was able to copy what I thought was W7KTI. Any chance anyone else can confirm? Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK Grid EN52 AmSat Member

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Re: Useless information dept
by Reicher, James 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

John, The fact that you're a dedicated QRP operator means that you should have the best darned antenna system in the world. QRP just means low-power. It doesn't have to mean you're deaf! Putting that 100mw into a 40dB gain EME array will do more for your signal that putting 2KW into a 1/4 wave wire strung in the attic, unless your goal is to melt the snow off your roof. 73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO (ex-N8AU) Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:06:58 +0100 From: John Hackett <archie.hackett(a)hotmail.com> Subject: [amsat-bb] Useless information dept: To: "Eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com" <eu-amsat(a)yahoogroups.com> Cc: allan_gm1sxx(a)hotmail.com, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org Message-ID: <BAY120-W262646C5A022770957AD1F91810(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" About the only thing I havn't tried in radio in 40 odd years is EME - but that is entirely due to aerial (and cash) restrictions. How does a dedicated QRP operator justify an EME array? - it just can't be done on a wet shoelace wrapped around a rusty 6 inch nail ... (though I am of the impression that a lot of satellite operators use this particular configuration on AO-7). I digress - in the aforementioned 40 odd years, that which still gets my juices cooking is a 'fast' CW QSO on AO-7 with either RW3XL or UA9CS ... in Russian. Now that's !!! international communication by amateur radio. The kids ought to watch such a QSO in progress (translated live). Every bit as interesting as the Jay Leno SMS v CW video on U-Tube and it would probably get a few enquiring minds in gear. (Ah!, there was !!! a point to his waffling.....GM1SXX). He's the other half of the "twisted pair" folks ... see - http://www.observations.biz/ 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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(no subject)
by Ed Tump 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Greetings all, I would like to know someone that is using a soundcard as a TNC for sat packets and where might I find a premade soundcard cable to my FT-60. Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK AmSat Member

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Re: Wht's ANDE's other name?
by k9jkm＠comcast.net 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Phil mentioned: > NO-44's signal is quite weak due to my poor aerial and I'm only decoding > one or two packets per pass. If you haven't tried it yet, one thing to see more packets is to turn the TNC's parameter named PASSALL to ON. It will allow you to see even the packets that don't have a good checksum. Some of the characters will be "noise" but most of the time you can figure out what the message was. In some TNC's when PASSALL = ON the MHEARD list doesn't get updated so that is one thing to watch for. Set PASSALL back to OFF if you want only "good" packets. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org

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Re: kiss files from wisp
by Mike Rupprecht 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Nick, I wrote also an small tool (KissDump). You will find it on my website: www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml 73, Mike DK3WN ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: [amsat-bb] kiss files from wisp Gesendet: Di, 13. Nov 2007 Von: Nick Pugh<quadpugh(a)bellsouth.net> > I would like to view the kiss files from wisp. What is the best software to > view them? > > thanks > nick > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > --- original Nachricht Ende ----

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Useless information dept:
by John Hackett 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

About the only thing I havn't tried in radio in 40 odd years is EME - but that is entirely due to aerial (and cash) restrictions. How does a dedicated QRP operator justify an EME array? - it just can't be done on a wet shoelace wrapped around a rusty 6 inch nail ... (though I am of the impression that a lot of satellite operators use this particular configuration on AO-7). I digress - in the aforementioned 40 odd years, that which still gets my juices cooking is a 'fast' CW QSO on AO-7 with either RW3XL or UA9CS ... in Russian. Now that's !!! international communication by amateur radio. The kids ought to watch such a QSO in progress (translated live). Every bit as interesting as the Jay Leno SMS v CW video on U-Tube and it would probably get a few enquiring minds in gear. (Ah!, there was !!! a point to his waffling.....GM1SXX). He's the other half of the "twisted pair" folks ... see - http://www.observations.biz/ 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Re: Wht's ANDE's other name?
by Mike Rupprecht 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Phil, it's NAV OSCAR 61 (ANDE-MAA) 73, Mike DK3WN Betreff: [amsat-bb] Wht's ANDE's other name? Gesendet: Mi, 14. Nov 2007 Von: Phil<phillor(a)telstra.com> > Hello, > > I've recently rekindled my interest in amateur radio and I'm trying to fine > > tune my APRS set up. Due to my rough portable station this is proving to be > > a little frustrating. > > Disappointingly, the ISS radio seems to be off and NO-44's signal is quite > weak due to my poor aerial and I'm only decoding one or two packets per > pass. > > Perhaps ANDE might give me a reasonable signal. What other name (OSCAR > number) is ANDE known by? > > Regards, > Phil. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > --- original Nachricht Ende ----

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kiss files from wisp
by Nick Pugh 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

I would like to view the kiss files from wisp. What is the best software to view them? thanks nick

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email via PCSAT
by Kevin Chudy 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

I have attempted to check in to the SSET via PCSAT and have a couple of questions. I receive stations through much of the pass, but I do not see my packets get returned. However, I have had two messages get to my email account, so it appears I have had some success. Am I correct to expect that I can transmit a message then receive it on the same system during the same pass? Also, I am using UISS and a soundcard. I received emails from APRS after sending the messages to "APRS via PCSAT-1". I have also tried "APRS via PCSAT-1, WIDE2-2". I have observed others using both paths. Is one path more correct? Thank you, Kevin N2JPE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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Update and audio clip from my station
by jonny 290 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi all, it's been a while since I posted. I spent last year building up my satellite station and almost got QSO-ready, but had to rip it down to move. I've got my original antennas back up at my house, and I'm in the process of expanding the aluminum farm as we speak. I recorded a little bit of AO-51 audio the other evening, and encoded it to MP3 for random perusal. It's still pretty down in the noise, but I am getting clear copy at times, so I figure I can work on the station some and only improve it. http://thearmz.net/stash/sat1.mp3 Current setup: -Icom PCR-100 receiver (I have two, one is stock, the other has 10.7 IF and discriminator out) -Homebrew 8 element 437mhz yagi (OWA design, it's pretty crude and un-tweaked, but works okay) turned with an Alliance U110 on a 12 foot mast -30 feet of some 0.405" coax that's better than RG-8, not as nice as 9913 -Ramsey PR40 $20 preamp in a junk box in the shack -TX (unsuccessful so far) is from an IC-271A through either a Diamond vertical or a dual band j-pole This week, I finished my design plan for my 2 meter beam and plan to build it tonight and tomorrow. 6 element OWA on a 4.5' boom should let me get in with my 25 watts no problem (I do have a partial treeline to deal with, though). Right now my antennas are below my roof line so I've got that to deal with as well. I've got another 5 feet of mast in the garage ready to go up with the beam, however. Just wanted to drop my two cents on the list and say hello (again!). I'm excited to spend the winter rebuilding and enhancing my station. Oh, and any one of you can send me an IC-471 - I'll gladly give you my address and even pay shipping. :) 73 de KC4YLV Matt

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Re: TNC Reccomendation
by nader omer 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

HI What a bout Satellite pacsat protocol ? for sure we need Wisp andTNC...!!!! Or there's a new software ? 73 --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.

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Re: FYI -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opportunity
by Bob Bruninga 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Does it have a serial port? A Sound card? Bob, Wb4APR

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Re: AO-27 schedule issue
by George Henry 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I can also confirm this anomaly. The only things I can think of are if the TOPR or EPOCH files being distributed on ao27.org are different from the ones the site is actually using, or if Mike has made some tweak in the C++ program that he is running on the site. I will have my son (author of the Java version) take a look at the ao27.org source code to see if something has been changed. George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- >From: Alan <ve4yz(a)mts.net> >Sent: Nov 13, 2007 12:38 PM >To: 'Angel Peláez, EA4DUT' <ea4dut(a)ure.es>, amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 schedule issue > >I can confirm this. November 13 UTC 19:34:53 WEB vs 19:28:50 JAVA - 6 >minutes 3 seconds after updating data in the java scheduler. > >-----Original Message----- >From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Angel Peláez, EA4DUT >Sent: November 13, 2007 10:55 AM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 schedule issue > >Hello: > >I'm a little puzzled with AO-27 schedule as I see a 6 minutes mismatch >between the official page and the java applet. >Right now (16:26:14 UTC), I see that next event on AO-27 home page is: > Next Event UTC => Tue Nov 13 16:45:15 2007 > State => 4 > Mode => OFF >But with the Java I get: > Next Event UTC => Tue Nov 13 16:39:13 2007 > State => 4 > Mode => OFF >Note the 6 minutes and 2 seconds lag. >Has anybody noted it as well? >I get just the same results as with java on an EXCEL sheet I wrote, so I'm >not sure if I'm doing something wrong with TOPR and EPOCH data files for >it's the first time I see this issue. >I always copied and pasted the data into two txt files one for EPOCH and >another for TOPR > >I will appreciate any feedback and ideas. > >73 Angel, EA4DUT > >

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Wht's ANDE's other name?
by Phil 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hello, I've recently rekindled my interest in amateur radio and I'm trying to fine tune my APRS set up. Due to my rough portable station this is proving to be a little frustrating. Disappointingly, the ISS radio seems to be off and NO-44's signal is quite weak due to my poor aerial and I'm only decoding one or two packets per pass. Perhaps ANDE might give me a reasonable signal. What other name (OSCAR number) is ANDE known by? Regards, Phil.

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AO-27 schedule issue
by Angel Peláez, EA4DUT 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hello: I'm a little puzzled with AO-27 schedule as I see a 6 minutes mismatch between the official page and the java applet. Right now (16:26:14 UTC), I see that next event on AO-27 home page is: Next Event UTC => Tue Nov 13 16:45:15 2007 State => 4 Mode => OFF But with the Java I get: Next Event UTC => Tue Nov 13 16:39:13 2007 State => 4 Mode => OFF Note the 6 minutes and 2 seconds lag. Has anybody noted it as well? I get just the same results as with java on an EXCEL sheet I wrote, so I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with TOPR and EPOCH data files for it's the first time I see this issue. I always copied and pasted the data into two txt files one for EPOCH and another for TOPR I will appreciate any feedback and ideas. 73 Angel, EA4DUT ______________________________________________ Pregunta, Responde, Descubre. Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome

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Re: AO-16 packets
by Mineo Wakita 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hello Chris, Please see about my software/hardware, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/equipmen.htm de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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(no subject)
by John Hackett 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

... and here are the results of the Norwegian jury ... (Our dear American friends won't recognise that phrase - but the "Eurovision" crowd will). After reading all sorts of wierd and wonderful comments on the Amsat-bb re: data modes on analogue satellites - (including SSTV and the infamous "pesky" 31) - I decided to throw caution to the wind and try to jump through the hoop by myself. Being an AO-7 afficiondo - (look it up in the dictionary!) - the logical choice was AO-7, not least due to it's orbit - (slow doppler) - and mode - downlink lower than uplink - (you'll need to think! about that one). I set up 2 x 386 machines running MixW V12, 2 instances of ITUNE and the FT-290/790 pair. I'd already built special interfaces to allow me to regulate the audio on both PC's + adequate filtering - audio and RF. The first thing I noticed was that a pair of EARS (!!!) works better than the "theoretical" one true rule, in practice - especially on modes like RTTY where you have two tones. It's easier to tune in PSK with a single line on the MixW waterfall display. To it's discredit, MixW can't decide which way to go for "auto-tuning" the last few hundred hertz - to it's credit, give it a little kick up the bum - (manual tuning)- and it copies perfectly. I missed the callsign ... LA2Q something-or-other ... due to QRM ...(just kidding!!!). (The next bit is "aimed" at the Europeans). Obviously, most people are *NOT* going to bother to set up for digital on an analogue satellite - which would entail organising both a TX and RX system but it shouldn't be a problem to switch to a digital mode to just TX ... and since I already have a dual system operating ... I would appreciate a report if you hear me. (I'll *ONLY* be on AO-7 mode-B). Remember !!! ... due to the different QTH's = different rates of doppler !!! ... I will need to "tune-in" on your signal so send your callsign several 'thousand' times. For those that are absolutely bone idle and can't be bothered to switch to a digital mode it is possible to give me a report on SSB if you hear any "snoring" noises. Conclusion. PSK31 does !!! work on the higher frequencies on satellites but it takes a little more practice than just the normal wailing into a microphone emulating a cow in labour. AAAAAAWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLEEERRRRRRRRR ... (swish) ... (swish) The good news - (for the South Africans, the good gnu's). If PESKY31 will work on AO-7 it will most certainly work on P3E - and save a lot of bandwidth while it's at it. 73 John. <la2qaa(a)amsat.org>

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Re: TNC Reccomendation
by Nate Duehr 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:16 PM, John Henderson wrote: > Great response Nate........I am aware of RigBlaster type > applications. I am > interested in sats like Go-32 and A0-16 for starters. What do they > require? Thanks John, but it really was only the "tip of the iceberg" so to speak. I think you hit "reply" and the reply only came to my personal inbox (not to the list) so I'll reply back to both you direct and the list both -- I think you'll find that there are a LOT of much more experienced and talented folks on the list who can answer specific questions about specific birds and types of operation of that bird. So list folks... John specifically mentioned here in his reply above that he'd like to work GO-32 and AO-16 and in another reply I didn't copy here he mentions ISS. You all might comment on his goals and options for those birds. As a start of a reply -- AO-16 has been a bit ill lately. Search for AO-16 on this page <http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/news/> to see the latest. It has been partially recovered and the command team is working on reloading software, so at least for the time being, it's probably "out" as an option to start with, but with luck, she'll be back. This page is an excellent resource on the current status of different birds, with the caveat that it isn't always updated: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/status.php (AO-16 is still showing "green" on that page, so -- you do have to take all of this with a bit of a grain of salt. The best way to stay informed that I've seen is to get on the e-mail distribution for the AMSAT News Service (ANS) e-mails, which are sent out on a regular basis and include the current satellite status information of all active birds. The webpages lag and/or don't always get updates, no fault of the volunteers -- they do a great job -- but sometimes it's different folks responsible for different things, etc...) ISS will be your "easiest" choice of the three you've mentioned. It doesn't take much (relatively) to be heard and to hear ISS... you're not dealing with ultra-weak signals, and even directional antennas are not *always* necessary. In fact, you can start now, by placing a receiver on a good outside antenna on 145.825 and listening when ISS is scheduled to be overhead. If you hear 1200 bps packet bursts, you are likely hearing ISS! (Or a local station attempting to digipeat through ISS...) When it's active (and the Amateur stations on board are turned off for Astronaut safety whenever there's an EVA going on), it has a nice power budget (!!!) and easily hears stations. The only "difficulty" with ISS is knowing what mode the Amateur station is in. Various volunteers try to keep everyone updated. Over the years, there have been some challenges when it accidentally gets left (or purposely set) in a mode that isn't "useful" to us earth-bound folks. (Someone might pipe up here with the ISS team's website, I forget where that one is.) Someone on the list commented that *sometimes* a hardware TNC is a "plus", especially at the higher speeds. I will not argue with that at all. Sound card interfaces and software do have limitations depending on the quality of the sound card interface, and the way it's connected to the rig. (Of course, the quality of the rig also "counts" here.) I think it's probably "safe" (although someone will certainly argue with me... heck, this is the Internet and people will argue for any reason!) to say that 1200 bps comms with anything sound card based, is "do-able". At 9600 bps and above, you start to get into some more difficult territory, especially at higher frequencies (UHF and above) because of Doppler shift as the satellite from your ground vantage point seems to be going by at a high rate of speed. You can learn a LOT by doing some terrestrial high-speed packet with a buddy, or if you're lucky enough to live in an area where there's a lot of high-speed packet going on (not as common as it once was), there's probably some "Elmers" hiding in that group. Heck, come to think of it, you're going to want to get even your 1200 bps packet station up and going "terrestrially" first, too. Most areas have some traffic on 144.39 (APRS Nationwide frequency) and if there's active "packeteers" you'll usuall also find some activity on 145.01 in most metropolitan areas. (I'm not sure where Cape Carteret, NC is in relation to other densely ham-populated areas, so ... again, a grain of salt needed here. You'll find the locals quick enough, if they're "out there"!) Not to send you off away from your digital "dream", since that's your goal -- but you should also give AO-51 a try. The bird is *usually* in FM mode, but has the ability to be switched to other experimental modes, and Drew KO4MA and the rest of the user-team that work with the command team, do a great job of keeping this list updated with the current status of the bird. There have been past opportunities to try digital modes through it, and I believe those will happen again. It helps to stay "plugged in" via the mailing lists and ANS. (They also have an excellent website with a schedule posted, when different modes are being tried.) It's a very easy bird to work, and can be done (with some practice holding everything, aiming the antenna, changing a few memory channels you've pre-programmed for the Doppler shift, etc) with a handheld radio and a handheld dual-band yagi, like the Arrow antennas, or similar. It helps to have an Elmer demonstrate this once before you try it, but many folks have done it with a little encouragement from this list. It gives you a "feel" for how "fast" the birds move across the sky, how long a pass typically is, and let's you "shake down" your pass prediction software and other tools a bit on something "easy" before adding the computers to the mix. It's worth the effort, and heck, To be completely honest, my fascination with VHF+ is centered 90% around weak-signal terrestrial work, and maybe 10% around satellites. I like to listen to the birds more than I ever work them. But I find that satellite folks and terrestrial VHF+ SSB and CW operators struggle with very similar technical details... how much loss is this feedline? How do I calculate the Noise Floor of this particular receiver and mast-mounted pre-amp setup versus perhaps putting the pre- amp down in the shack for convenience? How much attenuation is in this LMR-400 versus running a big honkin' piece of hardline out to the antennas? Etc etc. You get the idea. I have a desire to try out some of the new-technology type EME contacts and meteor-scatter also, using things like WSJT (and it's multiple flavors) which one could argue is a "digital mode" but completely designed from the ground up (no pun intended) for use in meteor-scatter and weak-signal VHF+ operations. I have the gear here to give it a try, but just haven't gotten any time to do it... (sigh). So I guess you'd say I'm more of an AMSAT "groupie" than really an active satellite operator -- thus, my reluctance to really dive in and answer your satellite digital mode questions... there are folks here that LOVE that type of operation, and will be more than willing to help you out as you get going. As a final note, there are some excellent references on the AMSAT site for new satellite operators. Some of them are a little bit out-dated at this point, and reference birds that aren't with us anymore... but the information contained in those documents, combined with a little mental cross-referencing to the current list of active birds, is still quite valid! I think this is probably as good a place as any to start looking up information: <http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/> Perhaps someday, you can pen an article about your initial learning curve, and what you learned as you start operating these birds, and help others along. I'm sure the AMSAT newsletter folks (and website folks) would be more than happy to post a slightly more "modern" discussion of "How to do it"! Once you've made a satellite contact, it's addictive -- you'll enjoy it! You can also apply for your "Satellite Communicators Club" award, of course! <http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/awards/#communicator> As they say, jump on in, the water's fine! -- Nate Duehr, WY0X nate(a)natetech.com

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UISS and Rigblaster
by Bob Herrell 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I am a "Newbie" and am using UISS/AGWPE connected thru a Rigblaster Plug&Play. It is connected to my IC-910H thru the data jack. I can talk to the 910H using Digipan, but cannot talk using UISS. Everything is set up on Com Port 1. It does not hear or talk on UISS. Is it possible that UISS is not compatible with the Rigblaster? Thanks Bob Herrell, AJ5C

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Re: FYI -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opportunity
by Bob Bruninga 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

OLPC Washington DC LAN? Since the OLPC laptop is supposed to form its own 802.11 network, with higher power than usual links, I wonder if some ham ingenuity could somehow put up a "802.11" hub or repeater on a nice high tower in the Wash DC area, and those with an OLPC could point a small 4 foot dish at the "hub" and then we could all be networked together? We have found the 18" dishes give a gain at 2.4 GHz of about 18 dB or so. If the range of the OLPC is on the order of 1/4 mile, then 18 dB could extend that to 4 miles if the hub could come up with 6 dB omni gain... Maybe 10 miles with a 4 foot dish...? And we could have multiple hubs. Gonna order two asap.. Bob, Wb4APR

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TNC Reccomendation
by John Henderson 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I would like to get into the digital sats and would like some ideas on TNC to consider. I looked at the MFJ web site but it appears they have discontinued many of their models. Also looking KAM but have no idea which one to pick. Appears major deltas are baud rates 1200 vs 9600. Thanks for any ideas or things to consider. John John Henderson N4NAB 212 Bayside Drive Cape Carteret, NC 28584 252-725-2744 <mailto:[email protected]> n4nab(a)amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/> http://www.amsat.org/

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Re: Orbitron Help
by jonny 290 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I had considerable problems with Orbitron during our recent 'time zone hiccup'. One thing to suggest is to right-click on your system clock and "Adjust Date/Time..." then go to the "Internet Time" tab and sync with one of the listed NTP servers. This will set your PC clock to +/- 1 second or so of proper time. Also ensure your time zone is set - since we're past all possible time changes, you need to set it 'correctly'. Finally, make sure the Orbitron time zone settings are correct. > If the satellite position is same in the two predictions, but the > azimuth and elevation are different, then the difference must be in > the position of YOUR STATION. Perhaps you have entered the station > position incorrectly? I'm not familiar with Orbitron, but a common > problem with many programs is confusing east longitude with west longitude. > > On the other hand, when you say "they look the same by eye", that may > not be the best comparison method. How accurately have you set your > PC's clock? Low orbiting satellites move over your station quite > quickly. You want time to be set within a few seconds of the correct > value. You don't want to be a few minutes off. >

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K6LCS' Sat Tutorial - Frequency Programming
by Clint Bradford 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

In the HT programming chart in the tutorial posted at... http://homepage.mac.com/clintbradford/Menu3.html ...readers have noticed that I haven't compensated for the doppler effect on TX - just on RX. That's because with low power and handheld antennas, we're not going to be transmitting as early in a pass (nor as late in a pass) than if we were using higher power and better antennas. I stress in all my classes/demos NOT to transmit unless the bird is heard well. Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666

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Re: TNC Recommendations
by "John Becker, WØJAB" 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I still use a 28ARS machine for all my RTTY work. At 07:11 PM 11/12/2007, you wrote: >John: > >I'm sure many will agree with Nate on this one. It SEEMS that using a >TNC in this day and age is almost like firing up the old Model >20-something RTTY machine that the radio club that I used to belong to >has. With a soundcard and some good software, we are able to emulate >RTTY, and Packet, and SSTV for that matter. So...

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TNC Recommendations
by John Marranca, Jr 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

John: I'm sure many will agree with Nate on this one. It SEEMS that using a TNC in this day and age is almost like firing up the old Model 20-something RTTY machine that the radio club that I used to belong to has. With a soundcard and some good software, we are able to emulate RTTY, and Packet, and SSTV for that matter. So... A good TNC is what...$75...$100...$200? Sound Card Emulation...umm...we all have them...plus free software...and MAYBE $45 for a digital interface. >From what I remember from the heyday of Packet in the 90's, it seems as thought setting up AGWPE and a UI-type package is VASTLY easier. BUt...if TNCs are your thing, go for it. Heck, I'm still trying to find an old Commodore VIC-20 with the OLD(!!!) MFJ Packet interface and software. Call it nostalgia. John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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[amsat-bb] ic-pcr1500 + Satélite + Doppler ??? (CE3SOC Raúl Romero)
by Fernandez Montaña, Juan Antonio 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Me imagino que el PCR1500 irá igual que el PCR1000, o sea mediante DDEclient cualquier programa de seguimiento, por ejemplo SATPC32, existe comunicación entre el programa de seguimiento y el receptor. Yo lo he probado con el PCR1000 y va francamente bien. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ 73s =============================================================== Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Los datos incluidos en el presente correo son confidenciales y sometidos a secreto profesional, especialmente en lo que respecta a los datos personales, se prohibe divulgarlos, en virtud de las leyes vigentes. Si usted no lo es y lo ha recibido por error o tiene conocimiento del mismo por cualquier motivo, le rogamos que nos lo comunique por este medio y proceda a destruirlo o borrarlo, y que en todo caso se abstenga de utilizar, reproducir, alterar, archivar o comunicar a terceros el presente mensaje y ficheros anexos, todo ello bajo pena de incurrir en responsabilidades legales. Cualquier idea contenida en este correo es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente el criterio de Iberdrola. El emisor no garantiza la integridad, rapidez o seguridad del presente correo, ni se responsabiliza de posibles perjuicios derivados de la captura, incorporaciones de virus o cualesquiera otras manipulaciones efectuadas por terceros. This message is intended for the exclusive attention of the address(es) indicated. Any information contained herein is strictly confidential and privileged, especially as regards personal data, which must not be disclosed, in accordance with legislation currently in force. If you are not the intended recipient and have received it by mistake or learn about it in any other way, please notify us by return e-mail and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, alteration, filing or sending of this message and/or any attached files to third parties may lead to legal proceedings being taken. Any opinion expressed herein is solely that of the author(s) and does not necessarily represent the opinion of Iberdrola. The sender does not guarantee the integrity, speed or safety of this message, not accept responsibility for any possible damage arising from the interception, incorporation of virus or any other manipulation carried out by third parties. ===============================================================

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Re: Need quick start info please
by Clint Bradford 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Dave - Software recommendations are in the tutorial I cited for you. Also, there's free info on the Web. HeavensAbove has recently improved their ham sat tracking graphics...and their Web site is also cited in that document. You need to improve your antenna...the stock -2db rubber duck will not suffice. Again, suggestions for commercial and homebrew antennas are in that document. Once you get to know the AMSAT grid of numbers, it is easy to figure it all out. FIRST, you need to subtract EIGHT hours from their times, to compensate for GMT. Type in your Grid Square - DM14 if you're still in Fallbrook, and look what shows up for the Nov 15 pass at 15:51 (that's 3:51PM GMT...which is 7:51PM on the 14th California time). DATE UTC - 15 Nov 07 AOS UTC - 15:51:14 DURATION - 00:14:20 ACQUISITION OF SIGNAL AZIMUTH - 11 MAX ELEVATION - 86 MAX ELEVATION AZIMUTH - 259 LOSS OF SIGNAL AZIMUTH - 195 LOSS OF SIGNAL UTC - 16:05:34 Take the ACQUISITON OF SIGNAL AZIMUTH and LOSS OF SIGNAL AZIMUTH numbers. They refer to compass points, where North is ZERO, South is 180, East is 90 degrees, and West is 270 degrees. So this pass starts at 11 degrees, darned near true North. And it ends at 195 - a couple degrees West of due South. So you can imagine this pass as practically going over your house, North to South. And because its MAX ELEVATION is 86 degrees - it REALLY IS going straight overhead, as 90 degrees is straight up! The MAX ELEVATION AZIMUTH tells you where the satellite is at mid- pass. This pass is 259 (darned near 270, which is due West). You couldn't ask for a better pass to hit with an HT!!! So...that is the HARD WAY to visualize a pass...But that Heavens Above Web site will show you graphically. And then there's commercial software, too...but you do NOT need to spend money immediately on software. Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666

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Re: Need quick start info please
by Clint Bradford 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

You're well on you way to the fun! AO-51 and SO-50 are very workable with your setup. You might pick up a tip or two with this tutorial... http://homepage.mac.com/clintbradford/Menu3.html I'll talk to you on AO-51 this week! Clint Bradford, K6LCS 909-241-7666 -------------------------------------- Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666 - cell

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Orbitron Help
by GARY ELLIOT 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Morning to the Group, I am a "newbie" as far as satellites go and having some problems with Orbitron as my tracking software. I realize that the software offered my AMSAT SATpc32 certainly looks like the one to go with or Nova but at this stage of my venture into satellites I wanted to stick with a free piece of software. That being said, here is the problem I am having. First off my computer is fairly new running XP and 1GB of RAM and my clock is right on with WWV I have updated Orbitron with the latest TLE's or Keps so they are current Now when I run predications on Orbitron 3.71 and compare them with the pass predications on the AMSAT web page they are really different ???? not even close, yet when I look at the actual real time position of a satellite say AO51 on both the AMSAT page and my Orbitron they are very very close, in fact look the same to me by eye. So why are the pass predications so off from each other ????? I assume it must be in my setup in Orbitron but have gone over these several times. I had a VE2 gentlemen who was running Orbitron trying to help me but when he runs his pass predications and compares them to the AMSAT pass predications they are the same ? Obviously I have something wrong so not sure where to go here, delete Orbitron and start with another download and try again ? that does not seem to likely to be the answer to me ? I also took a look at SATscape as a tracking problem but that seem rather confusing so gave up on that one as could not get it to run right either. So I am open to some suggestions/advice on Orbitron or any other free tracking software to try and then compare to the AMSAT page to make sure they are the same as far as predications. 73 Gary

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Need quick start info please
by Dave Bannerman 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I am interested in working some satellites and have had success at least tracking and hearing AO-51. I use Orbitron racking software and my Equipment consists of a Yaesu FT60 HT programmed with separate up/down frequencies for the AO-51 bird. My question that I have asked at least 3 other people is WHAT ARE THE OTHER V/U SATELLITES I CAN USE THAT PASS OVER CALIFORNIA, AND WHAT ARE THE SCHEDULES / STATUS'S OF THESE SATS? Everyone I spoke with tells me the same thing, go to amsat website. Well I am confused by all of the old data that is posted there. All most all of the FAQ and WEEKLY STATUS reports are 3-5 years old. Can someone just help me out and list the currently operational V/U sats that I can work? Would also appreciate comments on best tracking software, antennas or whatever you can offer to help me get up to speed. Thank you. 73 KI6GVL

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Decode list for digital sats
by Chris Bloy 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Hi All, Being a newbie, I am trying to put together a list for other new members so that they know what software is used to decode beacons and telem.. For example :- ANDE : 1200 AFSK Downlink – TNC, Soundcard TNC – UI-View & Other APRS software AO27, Voice & Packet Telem – TNC, Soundcard TNC What would you use to decode AO16’s packet? If I could have your ideas, I will start the list and host it somewhere.. Thanks., Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: 09/11/2007 09:26

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Re: Multiple Satellites in View
by John Marranca, Jr 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

JoAnne, et al: Yep...I tried adding ANDE-1 into my path, but wasn't able to hit both. Only after I changed my path to ANDE-1 was I able to get into it individually. Also....I noticed that in a prior posting, someone mentioned that ANDE was going to re-enter orbit...(which I knew), but that PCSAT was going to "die". I'm assuming that this is in reference to it going into eclipse for a while? (Of all of the APRS/PACSATS, NO-44/PCSAT has been the easiest and most consistent to operate through.) Well...I think I'm going to try GO-32 when I get home later. John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Multiple Satellites in View
by John Marranca, Jr 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Hello everybody. Just commenting on this morning's satellite passes. PCSAT was coming over for an almost 90 degree pass, when just over the horizon, ANDE-1, with one foot in the grave, came into view. So, after changing the path from PCSAT to ANDE-1, I was able to work both. I attempted to double-hop through them, but the frequency swing was a bit too great I suspect. Nevertheless, it was still fun to work multiple satellites. 73 everyone, John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Re: GO-32 on 5watts
by Bob Bruninga 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

> Hello Bob, just tried GO-32 with my D7A into > a 1/4wave groungplane at 15 feet and my packets/ > posit was heard by EI7IG igate. It was an 18 deg > pass to my east. had read on GO-32 page that > reports are wanted till more igates get up. > But thought you'd like to know the 5watt HT > crossed the pond agn. First 96 baud mode j bird > i've worked. 73. Mark Great! As soon as PCSAT-1 dies in a week or so and ANDE re-enters in 4 weeks or so, then Im gonna get back and fan the flames for more people to exercise their ability (any time, anywhere) with their HT to send an email via GO32. Lets see, you are in Main, and his IGate is in Europe! Yep, nice haul for a 5W HT... 2007 11/11 22:59:55 : KB1GVR-9]4TSV1W,4XTECH*,qAo,EI7IG:``6yl!tk/]"4C}U 2007 11/11 22:58:58 : KB1GVR-9]4TSV1W,4XTECH*,qAo,EI7IG:``6yl!tk/]"4C}U 2007 11/11 22:57:29 : KB1GVR-9]4TSV1W,4XTECH*,qAo,EI7IG:``6yl!tk/]"4C}U

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G-5400 az rotator repair
by James Sharp 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I picked up a G5400 az-el system. I discovered, though, that the entire resolver assembly inside the az rotator is missing. Apparently, it was a "repair in progress" that never got finished. I called Yaesu and got a replacement gear, but they no longer carry the resolver pot. Anyone have an idea on where I can get one? p.s. I'm not actually subscribed to the amsat-bb list, so please CC me directly on replies. Thanks.

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ic-pcr1500 + Satellite + Doppler ???
by CE3SOC Raul Romero 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

ok gracias por responder pero la AFC no es muy buena ya que aveces se atrasa mucho con respecto al satelites al parecer no hay muchos software compatibles aun con el ic-pcr1500 no me quejo no es tan mal receptor me agrado pero me gustaria tener un software o que el wisp se encargara sola de marcar las frecuencias cada ves que pasa un bird Saludos Raul CE3SOC --------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... > There is a solution!" > > Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector > The most powerful anti-spam software available. > http://mail.spaminspector.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick STODDARD" <patrick(a)wd9ewk.net> > To: "CE3SOC Raul Romero" <ce3soc(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:53 AM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ic-pcr1500 + Satellite + Doppler ??? > > >> Hola, Raul! >> >> Perdon mi espanol imperfecto. >> >>> Hello ask someone help me say that software >>> And as I run icom ic-pcr1500 to continue in the form and schedule >>> automatic satellites as their frequencies for the automatic doppler >> >> Satelites de FM, SSB/CW, o ambos? Creo que eso receptor de Icom >> tiene la opcion "Automatic Frequency Control" (control automatica >> de la frecuencia) que el receptor puede cambiar la frecuencia cuando >> la senial cambia por Doppler. Me entiendes? Por los satelites de >> FM, la opcion AFC es la solucion para cambiar la frecuencia >> automaticamente, despues de recibir la senial inicialmente. >> >> Puede preguntar a varios amigos con receptores de Icom como el >> IC-PCR1500 sobre tu pregunta. Buenas noches, y 73! >> >> >> >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - Phoenix, Arizona EEUU >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >

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[email protected] sent you a link to content of interest
by w4mvb＠juno.com 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

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GO-32 SSET success!
by Mineo Wakita 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Satellite Simulated Emergency Test http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/sset.html UI-View32 WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST::JE9PEL :ack WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST:=4027.00N/07428.68WMPHG0000/MacAPRS 3.8.2 -NJMIDNO BRUNS-385-<4b6> WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST::JE9PEL :EMail message delivered OK{667 JE9PEL>APU25N,TCPIP*::WU2Z :ack667 JE9PEL>APRS,4XTECH*[11/12/07 19:41:17] <UI R>::EMAIL :[email protected] SatSE Test JE9PEL>APRS,4XTECH*[11/12/07 19:41:40] <UI R>:=3523.05N/13936.61E- YOKOHAMA JAPAN {UIV32N} JE9PEL>APU25N*[11/12/07 19:42:50] <UI R>::EMAIL :[email protected] SatSE Test{70 WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST::JE9PEL :ack70 WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST::JE9PEL :EMail message delivered OK{668 JE9PEL>APU25N,TCPIP*::WU2Z :ack668 WU2Z>APM385,TCPIP*,qAC,FIRST:=4027.00N/07428.68WMPHG0000/MacAPRS 3.8.2 -NJMIDNO BRUNS-385-<4b6> JE9PEL>APU25N [11/12/07 19:45:14] <UI R>:EMAIL test success! JE9PEL>APRS,4XTECH*[11/12/07 19:47:59] <UI R>:EMAIL test success! http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/uiview32.htm#bottom --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Nov 12, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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ANDE re-enters in 4 weeks or so ?
by Mineo Wakita 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM ANDE 1 29664U 06055F 07314.67367291 .00104076 16551-4 13031-3 0 6391 2 29664 51.6279 33.5057 0003505 227.2784 132.7935 16.07435648 51579 ANDE: Eccentricity: 0.0003505 Mean Motion : 16.07435648 http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/satrange.zip Distance from the surface of the earth: MA 0: 251.6 km MA 128: 256.2 km MA 256: 251.6 km --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Nov 12, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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AO-16 packets Nov.11
by Mineo Wakita 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

JST = UTC + 9 PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:36:07] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:36:07] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:36:08] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:36:08] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:36:08] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:39:50] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:39:51] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:39:51] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:39:51] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:39:52] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:40:21] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:40:21] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:40:22] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:40:22] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:40:23] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:42:57] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:42:58] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:42:58] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:42:59] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:42:59] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:43:47] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:43:47] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:43:48] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:43:48] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:43:48] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:15] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:16] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:16] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:16] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:17] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:56] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:57] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:57] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:57] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:47:58] <UI>:Tka PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:48:13] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:48:13] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:48:14] <UI>:Tk.. PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/12/07 16:48:15] <UI>:Tk.. --------------------------------------------- Name: Mineo Wakita / JE9PEL, JAMSAT member Mail: ei7m-wkt(a)asahi-net.or.jp URL : http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ QTH : Yokohama Japan, GL:pm95tj Date: Nov 12, 2007 ---------------------------------------------

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Re: FYI -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opportunity
by Bob Bruninga 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

As Tom points out, these $100 laptops-per-child mass produced for every kid on the planet should be the ham-radio target machine for just about everything we do. I can think of no better investment in ham radio, than making sure our stuff can run on these machines. And thereby get kids involved in HAM radio. As they come, they have 802.11g wireless for a self-building network from nothing. Out of the box, they will network, and the ads say, the 802.11 is more powerful than conventional wireless lans. Ham radio can bring some RF expertise to these networks. Because the laptop is supposed to be able to form this peer-to-peer social network throughtout a villiage as is. We can add some longer links... My first thought is a USB PSK-31 device that links that laptop, not just to he next hut in the villiage, but can use 5W radios on PSK-31 to reach the world. I think the target power for the whole laptop is around 1 watt. So it can be recharged on solar power. This thing just jumps out at me as a fundamental building block for ad-hoc emergnecy comms and funn coms and just about everything else we do with ham radio. Then we overlay on top of that, all the neat things we do in ham radio. As tom points, out, AMSATS etc. (And of course APRS) Winlink and all our other EMCOMM toys... Of course until they get to the millions of quantities, they are now costing $200 each, and you have to buy two for a total of $400 to get yours (the other one goes to a kid)... But its a great way to get one... and start developing code... Actually get two (4), so you can play both ends... WB4APR, Bob

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ic-pcr1500 + Satellite + Doppler ???
by CE3SOC Raul Romero 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Hello ask someone help me say that software And as I run icom ic-pcr1500 to continue in the form and schedule automatic satellites as their frequencies for the automatic doppler Greetings Raul CE3SOC CHILE --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com

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Po-63
by Auke de Jong, VE6PWN 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I would like to draw attention to a unique occurance that I have noticed today and last night... I was sitting on 144.200.0 usb with spectran running on the compy for no good reason, when suddenly i noticed a carrier sweeping down through my scope. By itself, this would be nothing special, BUT I recognized a pattern: the sweep rate was not linear, but resembled that of doppler-shift from a passing LEO satellite! it started out at one rate, then got faster as it passed through my IF, and past zero-beat. I retuned down, and continued to observe it become slower, finally fading-out rather abruptly while still sweeping down at a slower rate. I could not find any reason why any terrestrial signal might do this, so I looked through my list of sats on Orbitron, to see if there was any hardware that had passed recently. I noticed that "PEHUENSAT-1[+]" had JUST LOS my horizon on it's ascending orbit, and had been almost directly overhead a few minutes before. I made a mental note, and decided to check again on a future pass to see if it happened again, just to rule-out other possibilities. Sure enough, this morning on orbit # 4414, I was again, monitoring 144.200.0 usb and doing other tasks when I looked over at the PC and saw the same pattern. A check of Orbitron, showed that PO-63 just SO happens to be almost LOS decending from overhead. This brings a question which begs to be answered: How can this signal seem to be coming from this satellite? As far I as I can tell by searching google, the satellite is no longer functioning. could it be a reflection of a terrestrial signal, or could it be generated somehow by a malfunctioning onboard transmitter? I would like to hear from others about comparable observations or other insight. Thanks, Auke, VE6PWN DO33

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My fingers are crossed
by Robert McGwier 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aDlXcqREUcnk&refer=uk

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Now this is fun!
by Ed Tump 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Folks, Just a bit ago AO51 passed over my QTH (grid EN52) at an elevation of 57, I was able to hear my very first voice downlink on my mobile rig. I did not want to try and TX as it was too exciting just to hear traffic. I did not record the pass audio so I cannot even remember the call signs that I heard. I just know I heard something! I can't wait for the my birthday present now from the family next week, a new Arrow satellite antenna. Thanks to all who gave me tips on using pass software, methods, etc. Warm regards, Ed KC9GWK New AmSat Member

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Wanted!! Last call for 45G parts (any maker)
by Stargate 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Hi all, I thought I would place one more "wanted" post before I place an order for New parts. It doesn't have to be made by Rohn only. Nello, or others makers parts are welcome so long as it fits 45G tower. I need the following.... AS455G accessory plate (rotor plate) BPL45G flat thrust bearing top adaptor TB3 Bearing 4ea. 45G bolt kits Please let me know soon since I will be placing my order sometime by the middle of this coming week. Thanks, 73's RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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AMSAT Journal
by Ed Long 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Everyone, Due to a lack of articles and quite a bit of international travel on my part, the Sep/Oct issue of the Journal is very, very late. It is nearing completion and should be at the printer in the next few days. It should be in your hands in a couple of weeks. Sorry for the delay. DEADLINE: All of you potential authors should get busy! I'd love to have articles for the Nov/Dec issue as soon as you can get them to me. Normal deadline for this issue is Nov 15th. If you have anything for the Journal please get it to me as quickly as possible. I have more traveling to do so the sooner I have your submission the better. Authors: Thanks for your efforts. I appreciate it very much. Without you we would not have a Journal. 73 to all and happiest of holidays that are coming up, Ed Long WA4SWJ Editor, The AMSAT Journal

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'Into Space with Amateur Radio' competition
by Trevor 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

South African Radio Amateurs seem to have found a good way to get young people thinking about Space, see SARL story at http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/into_space_essays.htm The essay's the students wrote are available at http://www.amateurradio.org.za/youth.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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Re: PO-63
by G0MRF＠aol.com 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

I can see the problem Bob mentions with the solar illumination. I can't quite make out if there is just one side out of 6 with 32 cells or if it has 2 sides with solar panels. Certainly a lot of AA cells inside though! _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJYBe3FmtAw_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJYBe3FmtAw) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQ38oQmX4w_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQ38oQmX4w) 73 David G0MRF

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Re: AO-16
by Mark L. Hammond 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Mike's observations are in line with my own observations--telemetry from AO-16 appears to be quite random in its current status. It's going to take a while to get the software uploaded and then running (assuming it's healthy enough to do so), so hang in there. Once we get that done (a few weeks is a likely time frame, or maybe longer) we'll have it sending telemetry at regular intervals again. When you do get telemetry, please send it to the address posted yesterday. Thanks for listening! It's good to hear it HUMMMMmmm.... 73, Mark N8MH >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:56:57 +0100 >From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail(a)mike-rupprecht.de> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16 >To: "'Dave Aitch'" <dave(a)g1ocn.com>, <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> >Message-ID: <011a01c8249d$04c4a240$0e4de6c0$@de> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I think no fixed time interval (heard frames between 1 and 3 minutes). > >73, Mike >DK3WN > >-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:[email protected]] Im >Auftrag von Dave Aitch >Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2007 17:54 >An: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Betreff: [amsat-bb] AO-16 > >Listening to AO-16s wonderful modulated carrier as she flies by >in the hope of downloading some TLM for guys, but, there >doesnt seem to be many periods of TLM being sent. >I heard only two bursts at near LOS when it was over Greenland. > >What is the period of time between TLM transmissions ? > >73, Dave. Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]

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AO-16
by Dave Aitch 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Listening to AO-16s wonderful modulated carrier as she flies by in the hope of downloading some TLM for guys, but, there doesnt seem to be many periods of TLM being sent. I heard only two bursts at near LOS when it was over Greenland. What is the period of time between TLM transmissions ? 73, Dave.

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Important job opportunity for an EU graduate
by Graham Shirville 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Hi all, On the off-chance that there may be an amateur subscribed to this BB, who is also a young graduate trainee, then this job ad may be of interest http://www.esa.int/hr/YGT/ESTEC_001.pdf Alternatively if you know of anyone who may be interested please ask them to consider making an application. The potential benefit of having an amateur, or at least an amateur friendly person, in this role could be very considerable for us..... 73 Graham G3VZV

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SATPC32 multiple satellite display
by DeYoung James 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Greetings, I have used SATPC32 for some time and have it working just fine on a Vista Home Premium platform laptop. Originally when installed on Vista I installed verison 12.6 and when +M (multiple satellite display) was selected I would get all my selected satellites displayed. However, I one time I changed to a NOAA selection configuation and then back to my HAMsat original, but lost the multiple satellite display in the process. Only the current selected satellite shows. I upgraded recently to 12.7 and multiple satellites were back until I changed the satellite configuation to another satellite group and returned to my HAMsat group. Now multiple satellite display is not working again. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? There is not much in the documentation on this topic to help me debug. Yes, I have +M currently selected as well as the load on start box checked in the configuration dialog box. Thanks for any insights on this. Jim, KG4QWC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: SSET
by Bob Bruninga 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

> When looking through my uplinks on 145.825 > I find quite a number of connects and small > intervals of less than ten seconds. Not much > discipline here in Europe Yes, that seems to be a big probelem. By using WIDEn-N at least now there is some emforcement of lower rates, however, it does not thing to reduce jamming on the uplink. Because if they dont get-it, they just don't get-it and then send harder and more often, just making it imposssible for anyone else. They need to read the user-service-agreement on the PCSAT web page. hi hi Bob, WB4APR

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Satellite Predictions
by GARY ELLIOT 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Hello, I am brand new to satellites and just getting interested. I downloaded and using a satellite tracking program called Orbitron, Yes I realize it is an old program but the cost was free and until I make a decision to get really involved in satellites I frankly did not want to put out any money at this time. That being said, my problem is that even though both the Orbitron software and the AMSAT on-line pass predictions have the same Lat/Long entered I get different data ???? The times are within 5 minutes of each but the Azm and Elv are way different. Is there anybody out there using Orbitron tracking software that I could check with to be sure I have it set up correctly ? I am assuming the AMSAT on-line predictions are correct ? Thanks for any help/comments 73 Gary

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Nova for Windows and Microsoft Vista Premium
by Ron G. Seiler 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Hello all, Does anyone know if Nova for windows will work under MS Vista Premium and, if so, are any special settings required in Windows? Thanks. 73, Ron VA7VW Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1085 - Release Date: 22/10/2007 10:35 AM

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Re^2: AO-16 partially recovered.
by Mineo Wakita 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

I also could decode AO-16 PSK. JST = UTC + 9 PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/11/07 05:53:11] <UI>:Tke PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/11/07 05:53:11] <UI>:Tkd PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/11/07 05:53:11] <UI>:Tkc PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/11/07 05:53:12] <UI>:Tkb PACSAT>MBLCTL [11/11/07 05:53:12] <UI>:Tka

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AO-16 partially recovered.
by Andrew Glasbrenner 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

After being off the air for several months, I'm happy to announce that AO-16 has been partially recovered and is transmitting on 437.026 Mhz. The satellite was recovered to the boot loader by Mark Hammond N8MH with guidance from Bruce Rahn WB9ANQ and others. Further reloading of the satellite is underway. The AO-16 team could use your help collecting the binary MBL telemetry for now, and the regular telemetry once the reload is completed. If you receive any telemetry from AO-16, please submit it (preferably as a .KSS file attachment) to telemetry AT quagliana DOT com and put the words "AO-16 Telemetry" in the subject of your email. Please include your callsign (if any), your latitude/longitude (or grid square), and the date and time when the telemetry was collected. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT-NA VP Ops

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FYI -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opportunity
by Tom Clark, K3IO 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

(I'm re-posting this from yesterday because somehow it got lost in route to the AMSAT-BB web site -- Tom) Some of you may have heard about the efforts of Nick Negroponte (MIT Professor, brother of the Top Spook) to develop a really low-cost computer (the target is $100, but they are just at the $200 level now) intended to bring modern technology to children in 3rd world countries. As I understand, their initial target audience is in Peru. More about their program and plans can be read at http://www.laptop.org/vision/index.shtml. All the software is to be developed open source (see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_on_open_source_software) I noted in Time Magazine a month or two back that they planned an initial "public" release with an offer that if you buy two, you get one to keep and the other goes to a foreign school. Tonite I got this announcement from them announcing that this campaign begins next Monday. Of the $399 you contribute, $200 is a 501c3 deductible item. I can imagine AMSAT developing several "Space Cadet" software packages for the OLPC (see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Content ). I can also imagine the OLPC serving as a terminal for the ACP (Advanced Communications Package) for Eagle/Phase 4, especially for the Emergency Communications application. FYI -- The O/S specs are based on Fedora LINUX, running Python, Java, Csound, Squeak & Logo (see http://www.laptop.org/en/laptop/software/specs.shtml ). You can see more info on the hardware and on developing widgets for the OLPC at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_Program. 73 de Tom, K3IO (ex W3IWI) -------- Original Message -------- > You are receiving this email because you requested a reminder from One Laptop per Child about our limited-time "Give One Get One" program. Starting Monday, November 12 at 6:00am EST, you will be able to donate one XO laptop to a child in the developing world and also receive a laptop for the child in your life, by visiting http://www.laptopgiving.org or calling toll-free 1-877-70-LAPTOP. > > "Give One Get One" is the only time we are making the revolutionary XO laptop available to the public. For a donation of just $399 ($200 of which is tax-deductible), you will be giving the gift of education. Additionally, T-Mobile is offering donors one year of complimentary access to T-Mobile HotSpot locations throughout the United States, which can be used from any Wi-Fi-capable device, including the XO laptop. > > We will send you another email when the program begins on November 12. Until then, thank you for your interest in OLPC. We hope you'll join us in our mission to bring education and connection to children in even the most remote regions of the globe.

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Re: AO-16 partially recovered.
by Mineo Wakita 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

19:20 UTC, 10 Nov 2007, I recorded AO-16 PSK sounds, but nothing data. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/71111a16.mp3 de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Help with AO27
by Ed Tump 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Folks, If I read this right, the satellite will not be "on" during the pass over my home: AO27 schedule UTC Sat Nov 10 19:19:57 2007 Digital Med Sat Nov 10 19:20:17 2007 Analogue Med Sat Nov 10 19:27:17 2007 Digital Med Sat Nov 10 19:28:17 2007 OFF Sat Nov 10 21:00:46 2007 Digital Med Sat Nov 10 21:01:06 2007 Analogue Med Sat Nov 10 21:08:06 2007 Digital Med Sat Nov 10 21:09:06 2007 OFF The pass over my house is listed on Orbitron as happening at 20:59 UTC. Does my figuring make sense? Thanks, Ed KC9GWK New AmSat member

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Re: AO-16 partially recovered.
by W.J. Ubbels 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Hi Drew, good to hear that AO-16 is partially alive again, it serves as an excellent off-air test signal for testing the telemetry decoding software for Delfi-C3, which will also transmit 1200bps AX.25 BPSK. At http://esther.esrac.ele.tue.nl/ao16/ you can find 24/7 automatically tracked passes of AO-16 (including .kss files) by the backup groundstation for the Delfi-C3 mission at Eindhoven University (PI4TUE) in JO21RK. 73 Wouter Jan PE4WJ -- Wouter Jan Ubbels MSc Delfi-C3 project manager electronics & communications www.delfic3.nl Faculty of Aerospace Engineering Delft University of Technology The Netherlands PE4WJ

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