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wisp help
by Nick Pugh 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Hi all I have updated the kep file from amsat with the [x] symbols. Now a get can not find sat in the WIPS configuration. Any suggestions? nick

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GB5OSO SPUTNIK AWARD 2nd (and final I hope) UPDATE
by Robert Turlington 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

John G7HIA and myself are pleased to announce that the SPUTNIK award is now available to any stations that have worked GB5OSO on the Satellites details available from:-www.turlington.supanet.com I have now recieved the QSL cards from the printers and will be writing them out over the next few weeks. Stations that apply for the SPUTNIC award will also receive there cards directRegards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com

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(no subject)
by Robert Turlington 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

John G7HIA and myself are pleased to announce that the SPUTNIK award is now available to any stations that have worked GB5OSO on the Satellites details available from:-www.turlington.supanet.com I have now recieved the QSL cards from the printers and will be writing them out over the next few weeks. Stations that apply for the SPUTNIC award will also receive there cards directRegards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com

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GB5OSO SPUTNIK AWARD NOW AVAILABLE
by Robert Turlington 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

to all Stations that have worked GB5OSO for the 50th Anniversary of SPUTNIK-1. An Award Certificate is now available please have a look at the following web site for details:-http://www.turlington.supanet.com/Regards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

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GB5OSO SPUTNIK AWARD NOW AVAILABLE:-UPDATE
by Robert Turlington 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

John G7HIA and myself are pleased to announce that the SPUTNIK award is now available to any stations that have worked GB5OSO on the Satellites details available from:-www.turlington.supanet.comI have now recieved the QSL cards from the printers and will be writing them out over the next few weeks.Stations that apply for the SPUTNIC award will receive thier cards direct_____________________________________________Regards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk

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AMSAT Mobile Satellites Galore
by Robert Bruninga 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

November should be a great Mobile Satellite Month. There are 7 satellites you can work from your mobile FM rig, including PCSAT-1 which should fully recover by this weekend and last for 2 or more weeks. So now is the time to get going with live satellite contacts via these easy FM satellites, or setting up a SATGATE (Igate). DOWNLINK SATELLITE -------- ------------------------------------- 145.825 ISS APRS digipeater 145.825 PCSAT-1 (recovery expected 3 Nov) 145.825 ANDE-1 (re-entry expected next month) 435.225 GO-32 +/- 10 KHz and 9600 baud 435.300 AO-51 *FM Voice* +/- 10 KHz 436.795 SO-50 *FM Voice* +/- 10 KHz 436.795 AO-27 *FM Voice* +/- 10 KHz As you can see, there will be over 40 passes per day with 18 for the 1200 baud satellites, 6 per day for the 9600 baud GO32 and 18 for the voice birds. All 1200 baud pass times are between about 6 AM to 1800 local sun time in the Northern Hemisphere. GO-32 and AO-51 voice birds are in the morning and evening, AO-27 is in the afternoon. It is trivial to know when to operate these birds WITHOUT A PC. Please see the manual-tracking page: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/MobileLEOtracking.html The packet path on 145.825 is VIA ARISS for all three satellites. The path for GO-32 is VIA 4XTECH and uses two different uplinks: 145.85 for APRS software and messages. 145.93 for all Mic-E, D7 and D700 radios. That's more than one pass per hour on 145.825. Lots of contact potential from your mobile... For APRS birds: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/GO32-ops.html For AMSAT birds: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/status.php For many of these satellites, you don't even need a tracking program. Just a slip of paper on the dashboard... See: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/MobileLEOtracking.html The best antenna is a 19.5" whip in the center of your roof. 5 dBi gain on the 2m uplink and almost 8 dBi gain for the very weak UHF downlink (above 25 degrees)... Watch for special event info. WB4APR, Bob

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Re: Simulated Emergency Test via Satellite
by Bob Bruninga 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Simulated Satellite Emergency Test: I now see 74 PCSAT-1 users in the last 24 hours on http://pcsat.aprs.org I cannot count up the SSET emails till I get to work on Monday, but of those 74 users, 50 of them have sent about 822 messages via PCSAT-1 or ANDE or GO32 or maybe even ARISS over the weekend (2-4 Nov). By the way, this is NOT just APRS hardware and software. Anyone with a TNC and a radio can send their SSET checkin email. Just set your TNC BTEXT as follows: BT :EMAIL....:[email protected] checking in for SSET!... Oh, replace the 4 dots after the word EMAIL with four spaces. The above format is an APRS message that will get ingested into the global APRS system and will get emailed to your_EMAIL (or any other email address you specify). Also set UNPROTO APRS VIA ARISS Set beacon to once every minute if attended until you see success. If unattended, set to once every 5 minutes. If successful, you will receive that message via your EMAIL. This demonstrates your ability to enter a EMAIL and or position and or status from anywhere on the planet in case of emergency TO any email address.. Join the SSET (Satellite Simulated Emergency Test)! WB4APR, Bob > Having heard no objections to the proposed Satellite > Simulated Emergency Test, we are proceeding with > the APRS satellite part of the test: > http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/sset.html > > -----Original Message----- > What is needed for this new opportunity is encouraging > a mind set... Towards... emeregency preparedness. > > I am thinking AMSAT (we) need to do more emergency > service preparations and tests with our satellites. > Not only will that test our capabilities, but we > will also need to demonstrate our emergency response > capabilities as a group to help sell the new > P4 concept to the supporters of this new Geo initiative. > > Can we work up a SSET, Satellite Simulated Emergency > Test? Something AMSAT can do to get this bandwagon > rolling. Here's a web page on what I am thinking: > > http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/sset.html > > SATELLITE SIMULATED EMERGENCY TEST: > > For the APRS satellites, everyone with an APRS station, > or D7 or D700 mobile would try to send an EMAIL > reporting location and status via satellite from the > field. > > For the PACSAT message birds, similarly send a message > reporting status from the field. > > For the Voice birds, have a net control take check-in > status from as many field stations as possible. > > I hope I'm not not re-inventing someone's wheel. SET > was in October and I am not a routine satellite > operator, but I do think we need field preparedness. > This is not another Field day contest. But this is > different. We will have good powerful net controls > taking as many low-power check-ins as possible to > demonstrate our capability to handle emergency traffic > from anywhere. By my count, there is a LEO satellite > pass on average at least once an hour most of the day > long. Plenty of time during a 2 day test for eveyone > to checkin. > > With PCSAT-1 returning to service for the next two > weeks, I would propose to do this during the 2nd week > in November. And to schedule it monthly from then on. > Sign up net controls for the FM birds, etc... > > Field Operations IS part of this new P4 opportunity. > Lets start exercising... > > And you can do this all from your mobile without a PC! > > See my draft web page... > http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/sset.html > > Bob, WB4APR

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GO-32 and Doppler.
by John Ronan 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi, I was wondering if there is a convention or best practice for doppler tuning on Digital Sats. I.e is it small steps and often or large steps and less often? I'm using an FT-847 and monitoring GO-32. I seem to be able to go as low as 10hz resolution. Just wondering. Regards de John EI7IG

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Satellite Net
by Fred A Parker 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

All are welcome to join us on 3.937 + 8:00 PM CST Thursday evenings. I will also try and link the local repeater K0GPZ-R Echolink node 349368 depending on band conditions. Topics are Satellite and balloons. Fred KF0AK

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OFFICE CLOSED
by Martha 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, November 12th in observance of Veterans Day. I will be late on Tuesday due to a morning Doctor's appointment. -- 73- Martha

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Re: PCSAT-1 over Europe
by Håkan Harrysson 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hello! It looks to me it is more different stations passing thru, It could also be that the word is out there is a good APRS satellite working FB at the moment. I did see a truck from TF and also some more interesting stations yesterday. 73 Hakan SM7WSJ Yes, when we changed the path to WIDEn-N, it took a while for people to see the bulletins. But the switch to the universal APRS path of WIDEn-N (Usually WIDE2-2) is being successful at slightly reducing the number of duplicate packets. I wonder if those in Europe have seen an impact? Bob, Wb4APR

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Re: Ampire 146-OS pre-amp schematic?
by Ronald Long 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

The FET is 3SK121. The five transistors used in the control circuitry are all 2N2222. I can send you the schematic and all the other info that came with the preamp, purchased 18 years ago! ron w8gus

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Re: Ampire 146-OS pre-amp schematic?
by Michael Pfeuffer 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

I received the answer off-list but will post it here for the archives: "The GaAs FET is a 3SK121 all the other transistors are 2N222". Looks like a 3SK121V is available from rfparts.com. Now to find the data sheets & make sure it will substitute. --Mike WQ5C At 05:44 AM 11/9/2007, Michael Pfeuffer wrote: >Hi all, > >Does anyone happen to have a schematic for an Ampire 146-OS pre-amp? I'm >trying to identify the GaAs FET it uses. > >Thanks, >Mike WQ5C > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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Sputnik Golden Anniversary Award from GB5OSO
by Robert Turlington 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

John G7HIA and myself are pleased to announce that the SPUTNIK award is now available to any stations that have worked GB5OSO on the Satellites details available from:- www.turlington.supanet.comRegards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com

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PCSAT-1
by Chris Bloy 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi All, I just wonder how successful digi'ing via PCSAT using a TH-D7 has been? I have real trouble with 5watts and have yet to hit it successfully, 50watts yes, but i am sure thats not good. I believe that its down purely to usage here in Europe as she appears to get hit multiple time by the same stations? Same as AO51 for example, its taken me a few passes to understand that multiple stations transmit at once and cause a strange clash, almost like you need to change freq.. but the signal strength is there!! Maybe this stops the 5watt stations from actually being relayed?? Just a though and would be interested in your comments, does this happen so much in the US?? Thanks, Chris Bloy

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Cassini-Huygens Audio Recordings
by Clint Bradford 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

NASA recently published several audio recordings collected during the Cassini-Huygens space probe's exploration of the Saturnian system... http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2007/11/cosmic-recordin.html Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666

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Re: N1ORC SK
by andy thomas 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

A great loss, felt keenly on this side of the pond, too. andy G0SFJ ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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off-topic wxtoimg
by wa6fwf 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi All, if someone is running wxtoimg 2.7.3 on ubuntu 7.10 or slackware 12.0 please send me a offline email if its working OK for you... Thanks 73 Kevin WA6FWF

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Ampire 146-OS pre-amp schematic?
by Michael Pfeuffer 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi all, Does anyone happen to have a schematic for an Ampire 146-OS pre-amp? I'm trying to identify the GaAs FET it uses. Thanks, Mike WQ5C

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rs-15 constructor
by Auke de Jong, VE6PWN 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

How might I be able to find and contact the group responsible for the creation of RS-15? auke VE6PWN

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Re: Data on the Sats
by John Marranca, Jr 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Good Evening Satellite Jockeys: I think Hellschreiber would be GREAT via satellite, as it's probably my favorite "digital" mode when running HF. (Once upon a time, I could be found on 40 meter Hell DAILY). Perhaps if/when the GEOSYNC sat is a reality, these types of activities will be commonplace. Let's hope. John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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SSET via ISS
by Robert Bruninga 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

ISS Packet is back on the air on 145.825 with PCSAT and ANDE, giving over a dozen satellite access windows per day for packets transmitted on 145.825. You can send your Satellite Simulated Emergency Test message via any of these satellites as deomonstrated below by Paulo getting his message out via the ISS: > Hello Bob, once again from CT2IWW. > > I was sucessfull in getting an SSET email > digipeated via the ISS, this morning. > Here's a copy of the message as received > by email: > ---------------------------------------------- > > /sset message test via iss 12:14z > > ---------------------------------------------- > Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z > Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ > APRS path = CT2IWW>CQ,RS0ISS-4*,WIDE2-2,qAO,EA4EKH-6 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > / Any idea what is that qAO in the path? The callsign after the qao construct is the callsign of the SATgate that heard the packet and injected it into the global APRS Internet channel. When any APRS Igate injects any packet into the APRS-IS, the path is modified with the QAO construct and the callsign of the Igate station. Bob, WB4APR

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Data on Sats
by Eric H Christensen 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Has anyone or does anyone use RTTY or PSK31 or the like on any of the linear birds? 73s, Eric W4OTN

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Re: Data on Sats
by Andrew Glasbrenner 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Some of us have played with Hellschrieber on AO-40, AO-7, FO-29, and VO-52. It is very low tech, but very doppler tolerant. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: Eric H Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us> >Sent: Nov 8, 2007 9:56 AM >To: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org >Subject: [amsat-bb] Data on Sats > >Has anyone or does anyone use RTTY or PSK31 or the like on any of the linear birds? > >73s, >Eric W4OTN >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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IC-910 Pre-amp Problem
by Steve kb9ups 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hello all, I have an IC-910. Just tried to power up the Icom pre-amps with No Luck.. I set pre-amps to "on", pushed the button and "?". The display indicator flashes 5 times and goes out..no power. Tried the amps on my other 910 and they work great and the indicator stays on...both bands. Does anyone know what may be wrong with the 910? Steve/kb9ups ARISS Mentor AMSAT area coordinator, Toledo, Oh. AMSAT area coordinator, Streator, IL. www.qsl.net/kb9ups _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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IC-910 pre-amp Problem
by Steve kb9ups 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Thanks everyone! In taking a look see inside..I found a burnt part (ouch). On the B5573L board "PA unit", part L720 behind the 144 antenna connector, a coil, is burnt. I guess the owner didn't tell me everything about his year old, still under warranty rig.. I hope that's all I find..but should I look elswhere? Steve/kb9ups ARISS Mentor AMSAT area coordinator, Toledo, Oh. AMSAT area coordinator, Streator, IL. www.qsl.net/kb9ups _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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FO-29 schedule Nov.
by Mineo Wakita 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Nov. UTC 13 3:35 - 14 4:26 - 15 3:33 - 16 4:22 - 17 3:27 - 18 none 19 none 20 4:13 - 21 3:18 - 22 4:08 - 23 3:13 - 24 none 25 3:10 - 26 none 27 3:05 -, 4:50 - 28 3:55 - 29 3:00 -, 4:45 - 30 3:50 de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Possible source of QRM on AO-51
by andy thomas 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Those of us in N Europe suffer from qrm on AO51, southbound from the poles, from fm transmitters thought to be in N Russia. I have just come back from China, where thanks to Michael and others, I met the Shandong ARS in Jinan. Amongst other hospitalities, the group took me to a street selling handhelds as well as other stuff like mobile phones, mobiles and I think repeaters. There I bought a VHF handheld for 180 RMB, about £12 UK or $26. (Including battery, charger, belt clip and antenna!) This promises 2.5 W out into keyboard entry and/or stored channels, either simplex or separate tx/rx. The model has the PU HUANG brand name, model PG5118 and covers 140 to 170 MHz, no tone or ctcss. The keyboard entry will only accept 5khz steps. The company name is Guang Yuan Electronic Co Ltd; I can't read the address -it's in Chinese - but was told it was made 100km from Xiamen in Fujian province. The instructions offer bands as follows: 145-175, 150-170,136-`74, 200-270,400-420,430-450,450-470, 400-470 MHz. Other handhelds on sale in Jinan covered 70cms and the 145-175 and 450-470 MHz bands - these were more common. In Beijing at the Silk market (4th floor) there were a few stalls selling "Walky talkies" with the same frequencies, and they recommended a "Chinese Kenwood" that looked like my Pu Huang but had Kenwood written on it instead. They had other "Kenwoods" and "Motorolas" but your guess is as good as mine. Another name is Bei Feng (BF) and their address is: Fujian Quanzhou BeiFeng Telecom Sytsems Ltd http://www.bfdx.com email: beidian(a)pub2.qz.fj.cn Also in Beijing I got hold of some flyers for the HONGO range produced by the Fujian Quanzhou Hongda Electron Industry Ltd. Specs are: HD-45AT : 136-174, 400-430 0r 440-470, 4/5w, ctcss, 12.5 khz channels. A-88: : same bands, 2.5w, no ctcss, 12.5 khz channels. HD-8800:400-470,no ctcss, QT/DQT (don't know what that is),5w, 12.5 khz steps. What's all this got to do with AO-51, well the box my Pu Guang came in is written in Chinese, English -and Russian. The Russian reads "Seriiniaya osobennaya vnutrisvyazhaya sistema" (I'm transliterating from the cyrillic) which reads something like "serial personal home system" - I'll get a better transaltion from my Russian tutor tonight. So I conclude that these sets are being sold on the Russian domestic market - why else write in Russian on the box? And they are therefore a strong candidate for the FM uplink qrm on AO-51 when the ctcss access is off. Finally, looking at all the above specs., while some of them do have ctcss, and they could have 5 or 12.5 or 25 kHz steps, none have the odd 6.25 kHz steps. Maybe future FM sat builders could get around unintentional qrm this way? If anyone wants a scan of the "manual" or flyers please email me off the list. 73 de andy G0SFJ ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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ICOM R20
by nader omer 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hello all dose any one use or test Icom R20 reciever on satellite ? tnx in advance st2nh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Amplifier progress
by Greg KJ6KO 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hello to all that have amplifiers coming. Just a note to let you know how the first batch of amps is turning out. They don't re-tune quite as well as I thought they would, but are averaging 65W out w/5W input at 1269MHz. When tuned for 1269, the output at 1296 is averaging about 55W. The biggest problem seems to be input tuning. The input return loss changes greatly when moved 28MHz, but is still useable on both ends of the band. I won't let one go out that doesn't do at least 60W minimum with 5W input. I should be getting the first batch out by the end of the week! 73 de Greg

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Re: GO-32 Question.
by John Ronan 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Doh! Why not use the original....microsat application in microsat-0.9- Xaw.tar.gz Thanks for the replies. de John EI7IG On 7 Nov 2007, at 14:27, Alan wrote: > Brilliant move on my part but it is still early in the morning here... > > The URL is > http://www.filewatcher.com/p/pb-pg-1.0.oz6bl.tar.gz.36556/pb-pg-1.0/ > pb-pg.tx > t.html > > > 73... Alan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: November 7, 2007 8:26 AM > To: 'John Ronan' > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] GO-32 Question. > > Hi John, from what I understand from the old days of using the DOS > versions > of PB, it first gets a directory listing of files ( each message > and binary > is a file ) and then you can request a download from that directory > listing. > > Here is a URL that might assist you. > > When GO-32 is working there are always a few test JPG's available to > download. > > Hope this helps... > > 73, Alan VE4YZ > AMSAT LM 2352 > http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/ > AMSAT A-485 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: amsat-bb-bounces(a)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb- > bounces(a)amsat.org] On > Behalf Of John Ronan > Sent: November 7, 2007 7:53 AM > To: AMSAT-BB BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] GO-32 Question. > > Hi, > > I'm trying to debug the Linux version of PB/PG. Having never used it > before. Are there any small files on the satellite that I could > get it to > attempt to download while attempting to debug it? And I apologies > to GO-32 > users for the intrusion. > > Regards > de John > EI7IG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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thanks and great job!
by Nate Duehr 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Thanks once again to Chris Huber, N6ICW for providing the excellent quality audio feed for the Space Shuttle audio on IRLP Reflector 9877. Also thanks to Matt Sturtz KB0KZR for being "on-call" for backup audio feed duties and having built a backup audio feed in case of problems with Chris' system in California, to be used if needed. The IRLP Reflector channel has been placed back into 2-way communications mode, and will be available for comments/discussion, etc... Of course, Chris is still feeding the after-landing audio at this time so any comments/etc will have to "share" with the audio uplink feed until it is disabled. It looks like once again that the landings and launches are the most popular phases of flight (of course): http://www.natetech.com/munin/irlp.net/ref9870.irlp.net-if_eth1.html (The large gap in the bandwidth/telemetry data last night is due to a lockup/failure of the monitoring server, not the Reflector.) Congratulations to STS-120 and Commander Pam Melroy for an excellent flight, and some very interesting on-orbit repair work of a damaged solar array. Quite impressive! 73, -- Nate Duehr, WY0X nate(a)natetech.com

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GO-32 Question.
by John Ronan 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Hi, I'm trying to debug the Linux version of PB/PG. Having never used it before. Are there any small files on the satellite that I could get it to attempt to download while attempting to debug it? And I apologies to GO-32 users for the intrusion. Regards de John EI7IG

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Problem on TXing
by Vincenzo Mone 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Hi to the list, i need an help. I have a problem while I have to work analog satellites. I have encluded my three preamplifiers 2m 70cm and 23cm in a box on the roof. I have noticed that every time I transimt I can hear my own voice on my downlink Signal or the downlink signal drops down a lot sometimes it disappear. Can somebody help me to solve the problem? Thanks in advance. 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 *************************************** ***** GSM +39 338 9749786 ***** ***** SMS +39 338 9749786 ***** ***** FAX +39 328 7244294 ***** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone(a)tin.it *** ***************************************

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antennas
by w3vvp 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Other than beams,what are the best antennas to xmit & rec. AO-51 & VO-52. I have az/el 22C & pr 18 c's. Thanks for any reply's. George

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need Symposium photos
by David J 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

I have been asked to do a presentation on our 2007 AMSAT Symposium for next week at our local QCWA meeting. I need some more photos in addition to what had taken. If you have a few that are interesting and can send them that would be great. If you have or know of any links to web sites that have them posted and I can download them, that is even better. PLEASE DO NOT SEND TO AA4KN(a)AMSAT.ORG. Only send them to n4csitwo(a)bellsouth.net. Thanks and 73s, Dave, AA4KN

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GO-32, Linux, PBPG.
by John Ronan 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Success, I managed to get APRS packets through GO-32 from both the mobile and home station. With all that other data flying past, I was going to try out PBPG but PB is segfaulting. Is there anyone running it successfully on linux at the moment? I'm just wondering before I go confusing myself by looking at the code :) Regards de John EI7IG

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Alogger, UI-VIEW filter
by Chris Bloy 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Hi all, Just a quick question to ask, I have been playing with Alogger to see if I can see only the PCSAT/ANDE/ISS traffic. I have set a p/ARISS/PCSAT* etc, is this only for passing traffic to the server? Anyway I can get that info to my UI-VIEW/ALOGGER pc? Thanks, Chris

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Re: A Fantastic Monday Morning Sky Show...or Tuesday's wasn't so bad, either.
by John Marranca, Jr 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Good Morning, Everyone. OK...so as I woke up this morning at 6 am, I was greeted by the beep from the Orbitron program letting me know that the ISS was close. This morning...overhead...it was perfectly clear. I could see the Moon and Venus (I think). To the south were Lake Effect Snow clouds...and in the early dawn sky they appeared JET BLACK. At approximately 6:15, the ISS flew past and was absolutely glowing from the sun rising and the black background. Again, truly an awesome sight. John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Email via Satellite Simulated Emergency Test
by Robert Bruninga 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

The value of sending an Email via APRS Satellite in an emergency is that it is a set-and-forget outward bound communcations mode. Perfect for real emergencies. You don't need anything but a 2m radio and a TNC. No special software. No special hardware, no satellite predictions, and no time consuming operating. Just set the Email message in your TNC beacon, turn it on, and then return to all the emergency tasks at hand. Think Katrina. You wanted to report your status, but had no time for the tedium of "operating" to find a means to get your traffic out. There was just too much else to do... In real emergencies, those affected have far too much else to do than to try to make a satellite contact to report back their location and status. But using an APRS beacon allows you to set up your outgoing message (or email), with no knowledge required about satellite pass times. Sooner or later an APRS satellite will pass over your location and your beacon and EMAIL will get in without any effort on your part. Your emergency health and welfare email will not only get relayed by the satellite to a SATgate, but should then be automatically emailed to the intended recepient. You did not need any special software, no satellite predictions, no special hardware other than a TNC and 2m radio. This is the ideal first-response health-and-welfare-status reporting mechanism. Put your beacon on the air and then do all the rest of the emregency work you have to do, and do not get burdened with having to sit and "operate" to try to get your message out. The Satellite Simulated Emergency Test web page shows you how to use any TNC to set up your outgoing EMAIL... http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/sset.html Try it with your old TNC. Anyone can do it. But the format must be correct for the packet that you place in your BECONTEXT: BT :EMAIL :[email protected] your_message_goes_here... Where 4 spaces are required after the word EMAIL and then the "email(a)address.com" must be the intended recepient. Its only one line. But in an emergency, ONE LINE is exceptionally valuable, and has a great chance of getting through. Not only will it get delivered (if the infrastructure works) but you can also just check the downlink yourself to see if it got through on: http://pcsat.aprs.org Try it this week while PCSAT is working! Bob, WB4APR

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PCSAT-1 & THD7 ?
by Henk, PA3GUO 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

> I just wonder how successful digi'ing via PCSAT using a TH-D7 has been? Hi Chris, I tried Sunday during a 60 degrees pass with - THD7 full battery (=2.5W) - 4 elements DL6WU hand held beam With this setup I can work AO51 always noise-free. But I could not get a single packet over PCSAT. I think this is not so much due to PCSAT, but more due to the fact that it sees 10..20 stations transmitting at the same time... only the strongest one wins :-( Sunday I also saw MAILBOX traffic, that can also reduce the APRS success rate ! Would be interesting to read more reports. The good news is of course that Europe is a big PCSAT user group ! Henk, PA3GUO http://www.qsl.net/pa3guo

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looking for I8CVS'e-mail
by Vincenzo Mone 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Hit o the list, i am looking for the I8CVS's e-mail address . Pse anybody has it? Thanks in advance 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 *************************************** ***** GSM +39 338 9749786 ***** ***** SMS +39 338 9749786 ***** ***** FAX +39 328 7244294 ***** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone(a)tin.it *** ***************************************

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Re: Email via Satellite Simulated Emergency Test
by Bob Stewart 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

George, No problem. :) I managed to get the ax25 stuff installed and working on my linux box; at least in receive. Now that I know that works, I'll have to build an interface for the transmit side. Thanks for your offer of help, and to everyone else that responded! Bob - AE6RV --- George Henry <ka3hsw(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Oops... Missed that you were looking for something for Linux. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Stewart" <bob(a)evoria.net> > To: "Amsat-BB" <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:26 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Email via Satellite Simulated Emergency Test > > > > --- Robert Bruninga <bruninga(a)usna.edu> wrote: > > > >> You don't need anything but a 2m radio and a TNC. No special > >> software. No special hardware, no satellite predictions, and no > >> time consuming operating. > > > > Bob can you or anyone tell me if there are software TNCs for > > soundcards out there? I know almost nothing about APRS or > > even where to turn to get useful information. Unfortunately, > > buying a TNC is simply not going to happen at this time. I am > > a Linux user. > > > > Bob - AE6RV > >

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Icom IC-PCR1500 and Doppler ????
by CE3SOC Raul Romero 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

hi iam have icom ic-pcr1500 need software doppler for my rig tnx Raul CE3SOC --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com

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Re: [sarex] Re: A Fantastic Monday Morning Sky Show
by David J 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Tim, I took these shots this morning from my front yard here in Orlando. Not great, but interesting. I believe on photo 3, you can see the two individual spacecraft. Just used my Olympus C750UZ. No zooming used. I like photo 1 a lot since you can view the Big Dipper and polaris in relation to the spacecrafts. The direction of travel is top left angling down to lower right. Dave, AA4KN -----Original Message----- From: sarex-bounces(a)AMSAT.Org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Bosma Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:07 AM To: Arthur Rowe; SAREX(a)AMSAT.Org Subject: [sarex] Re: A Fantastic Monday Morning Sky Show Quite a sight this morning - the moon, Venus, and the ISS and the Shuttle several degrees apart going from SW to NE almost straight overhead. WOW! perfect viewing conditions. 73 Tim w6mu ---- Sent via sarex(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex

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Re: Off-Topic: 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to cross the Atlantic
by Trevor 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

--- Garie Halstead K8KFJ <khyberpass65(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > It's odd they didn't announce the launch location. Tennessee? A coastline > location? Or did I just miss it. Their website gives a Google Earth link to the launch site so you can see exactly where it is http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=35%C2%B…'+43.51%22N++83%C2%B0+52'+24.50W&ie=UTF8&ll=35.962062,-83.873631&spn=0.001455,0.002489&t=h&z=19&om=1 73 Trevor M5AKA ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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Re: Wind Turbine Interference?
by Trevor 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

--- Trevor <m5aka(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > The BBC document is still on their website but it's moved to this URL: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/info/pdf/buildings_factsheet.pdf This document is a year later than the one I originally mentioned and has changed in some areas. It references a Wind Farm RF planning tool http://windfarms.kw.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/rd/windfarms/windfarm.cgi The site says: "This tool is provided for the guidance of Wind Farm developers. The results of a query are a rough estimate of populations that may suffer interference from wind farms built at the locations specified, ..." 73 Trevor M5AKA ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: geo stationary bird
by G0MRF＠aol.com 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

In a message dated 04/11/2007 15:41:26 GMT Standard Time, richard(a)g3rwl.demon.co.uk writes: Does anyone know if retired birds are switched ON or OFF once they get boosted into a retirement orbit ? Could still be useful to us even from there. 73 Richard Limebear G3RWL Hi Richard. After the 15 year (ish) period, the satellite is normally switched off as it can no longer point its high gain antennas at the correct point on the earth after the station keeping fuel has run out. For us it just means we need switchable antennas that can be swapped 15 years after launch. In every day use I suspect there could well be some loss of service during eclipse. On GEO sats the DC power required to run the transponders normally is a little less than the power from the solar array. However, when the satellite enters eclipse, the TV etc transponders are run from the batteries. I suspect that at this point, AMSAT would be switched off or into some low power mode until the eclipse has passed. The extra battery power needed for operation of AMSAT and the commercial transponder during eclipse would require a significant mass increase of the on-board batteries. 73 David

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Off-Topic: 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to cross the Atlantic
by Trevor 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Not satellites, but some of you may be interesting in assisting with capturing the telemetry data. 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to cross the Atlantic http://www.southgatearc.org/news/november2007/ham_balloon_across_atlantic.h… 73 Trevor M5AKA --------------- Daily Amateur Radio RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email your news items to: editor at southgatearc.org News On Your Website: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/index.htm News On Your PC: http://www.southgatearc.org/rss/newsreader.htm Upload Your News: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news.htm --------------- ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Wind Turbine Interference?
by Doug Kuitula 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Hi all, Sorry if this is off subject. I just found out that our city in suburban Detroit is going to install a 150 foot wind turbine about a quarter mile from my qth. I was wondering if anyone has experienced any problems working satellites, due to turbines. I'm only using a Arrow antenna and a handheld. But hope to upgrade the station in the future. I'm not questioning the need of turbines. But am just wondering if I'm going to have problems in the future. 73 and Thanks in advance. de Doug KA8QCU

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Re: Wind Turbine Interference?
by Dave Guimont 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Ed, what satellite was that?? >Well I copied signals that were back scattered from a farm windmill >in Texas on 10.368 GHz SSB. Distance was about 30-miles. I believe >that the power being used was about 1-5w. I was portable on a >100-foot high hill in the Texas countryside. Direct path did not >produce a strong signal. > >Ed - KL7UW > >At 03:28 PM 11/4/2007, Dave Guimont wrote: > >> > >> >Wind Turbines are a threat to Homeland Defense. They can produce >> large Blind >> >Spots on Radars - above, infront and behind them - so yes they can cause >> >problems to RF signals. >> > >> > >> >Effects of Windfarms on Radar >> >http://www.southgatearc.org/news/october2005/windfarms_radar.htm >> > >> >>Trevor, >> >>That is some pretty good stuff for higher powered xmitters...But I >>doubt there is any instrument sensitive enuff to measure the >>reflection potential from any satellite we will ever launch, and the >>"shadow" that it would cause on a LEO is in less than a >>second...HEO's may take a little longer.... >> >>This is conjecture based on my HS physics...I would appreciate >>comments from any of the many engineering experts we have on here... >> >> >> >> 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org >> Disagree: I learn.... >> >> Pulling for P3E... >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >73, >Ed - KL7UW >====================================== > BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com >144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w >DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com >====================================== 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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Help from those using palm sat software
by Ed Tump 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Folks, I cannot figure out how to upload new tle/txt in to my palm. I use the palm install tool but it puts the txt files on to the card and not the internal memory. Any ideas? Thanks! Ed

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Re: Wind Turbine Interference?
by Trevor 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

The BBC document is still on their website but it's moved to this URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/info/pdf/buildings_factsheet.pdf 73 Trevor M5AKA --- Trevor <m5aka(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > --- Dave Guimont <dguimon1(a)san.rr.com> wrote: > > That is some pretty good stuff for higher powered xmitters...But I > > doubt there is any instrument sensitive enuff to measure the > > reflection potential from any satellite we will ever launch, and the > > "shadow" that it would cause on a LEO is in less than a > > second...HEO's may take a little longer.... > > It'll all depend on proximity of the receiving station to the turbine. > > The Wind Turbines on the Orkneys killed TV reception for the local > inhabitants, > hence the need to resite the TV transmitters. If high power TV transmitters > can't get through them will weak signals from Amateur satellites fare any > better ? > > Agreed for a LEO the affect may be shortlived but I'd say it would be more > than > just a second. > > 73 Trevor M5AKA > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html > ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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ANS-308 Formatting
by Ronald Long 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Am I the only one who sometimes receives the ANS bulletin with missing line or paragraph formatting, everything run together? It happened this week, ANS-308, and may be only when a certain volunteer sends out the bulletin? I use Eudora as my mail client. I cannot find any settings that might cure the problem. I receive tons of mail and this is the only one that has this problem. Also when I check the AMSAT web site for ANS I find a beautifully formatted page, but it is missing the bulletin number (308, e.g.). It would be helpful if that was included. ron w8gus

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Re: Surface Mount Repair
by Roy 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Hi again Guys, Success! Thanks to all the replies I got with advice on how to remove the surface mount IC. I applied heat from the blow side of my solder station and it popped off after a little bit with a little help at one corner. I had lifted all 22 leads from their pads first so I wouldn't damage a pad when it popped off. There were four small round glue spots down the middle of the bottom of the IC. Pads 1 and 22 were oversize so it was easy to spot the replacement IC with a good blob of solder on those two pads before I started soldering down the other pins. Thanks again for all the suggestions. -- Roy -- W0SL

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Longer arms for you to reach your favourite sats.
by Kevin Forbes 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Hi folks, someone I was in contact with recently gave me an url to visit. REMOTE RADIO http://www.remotehams.com/ http://www.remotehams.com/Online-Radios The site is in England, and has several radios online that you can adjust the tuning on. I went and had a look and a play. Then had an idea to try out. I tuned into a NOAA wxsat on the 137 MHz band when my sat tracker said it was over England. I then started the WxSat program that turns the telemetry into images. I had to tick a different box on the sound cards recording settings, and then it happened. For the first time, I was receiving an image of Europe from a VHF NOAA sat, via the online radio. Thanks to the folks that made this site possible, I love it. _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife free. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2…

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Surface Mount Repair
by Roy 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Hi Guys, I am trying to replace a 22 pin surface mount IC on a piece of Panasonic video quipment. I have all of the leads unsoldered but now I find that the IC is stuck to the board, maybe intentionally. It doesn't appear to be just the circuit board coating. It's more like the whole bottom surface is cemented. I would appreciate hearing from anyone, off line, who has experience in removing a stuck IC from the board. I have tried flux removerand 91% Isopropal Alcohol with no luck. I hesitate to force it or destroy the chip since there are traces running beneath it. Any ideas of a safe solvent or another way to unstick this thing? -- Roy -- W0SL

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Re: geo stationary bird
by melachri＠speakeasy.net 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

It depends on what you mean by "retirement orbit." Some satellites are left on-orbit but not used much, when their transponder complement (and the revenue it can produce) no longer justifies taking up the orbit slot. At this point, the transponders are turned off, but the satellite is left functional--it may be kept as an on-orbit spare, to be put back in service if another satellite fails. Although the transponders are off, the satellites are not--their power and attitude control systems are left on. So if this happened to our "host", the amateur payload could continue to operate. These satellites don't typically drift--they're "parked" in an orbital slot but just not actively used. If by "retirement orbit" you mean "disposal orbit" (typically about 300 miles above GEO), satellites are typically not put there until they are not worth anything to the owner. This is most often due to on-board failures or running out of expendables (e.g. fuel) that prevent the satellite from ever continuing its mission. At this point, the owners do not want to spend any time/effort/resources continuing to maintain them. As a result, their propulsion systems are vented (to mitigate future explosions) and electronics are turned off and disabled in a way that prevents even accidental turn-on. This would include the attitude control subsystem, which would keep the spacecraft pointed at the earth, as well as the electical power subsystem. A satellite in this condition could not continue to support any other payload. (Note that a GEO satellite is registered to operate from a single orbital slot, but satellites in the "retirement orbit" are drifting. They would cause interference to other registered satellites if their transponders were to remain operational during that drift. So to prevent retired-and-drifting satellites from unintentionally causing interference, operators will when possible deliberately disable a retired satellite.) Of course, such a drifting transponder would continue to be useful to the amateur community. This is something that could be a subject of negotiation between AMSAT and the host. 73, Steve Melachrinos W3HF > Does anyone know if retired birds are switched ON or OFF once they get boosted into a retirement orbit ? Could still be useful to us even from there. > > 73 > Richard Limebear G3RWL > >

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AO-7 Mode A difficulties
by Bob Stewart 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

I've made several attempts efforts to work AO-7 on Mode A, but I just don't seem to be able to manage it. I can hear CW signal, and if I whistle into the mike, but I just can't hear my voice well enough to even attempt a QSO. I'm using an 80 watt Mirage brick into an RHCP moxon pair pointed straight up. I don't have any problems getting into the FM sats with this setup. Is it because I'm only getting about 40 watts EIRP from this and that's simply not enough for AO-7 Mode A? Bob - AE6RV

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Ao-51 + Ic-PCr1500 + WI-FI Antenna ?????
by CE3SOC Raul Romero 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Greetings to all I paid receiver icom ic-pr1500 receiving up 3 GHZ I doubt will be layered with some receiving antenna that I have a wireless panel 14dbi and yagui of 8 elements dlink? Someone tested this configuration Second, I recommended software to correct the doppler receptor icom when receiving satellites Now many thanks Raul CE3SOC --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com

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Re: geo stationary bird
by richard＠g3rwl.demon.co.uk 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Does anyone know if retired birds are switched ON or OFF once they get boosted into a retirement orbit ? Could still be useful to us even from there. 73 Richard Limebear G3RWL

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Sinclair Labs
by Clint Bradford 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Contact Sinclair at... sysengusa(a)sinctech.com Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359 909-241-7666 > I found at a junk an old RF preamplifier from > > Sinclair Radio Labs

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Re: Right Angle BNC adapters
by Edward Cole 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

ONLY If you live in the east, John! Up here it's Alaska Standard Time (AST). You get extra points in the next contest if you know the time difference between AST and UTC...no peeking :-) EST-UTC = -5 hours. 73 Ed - KL7UW At 02:32 PM 11/3/2007, John Marranca, Jr wrote: >Frank: > >That's what I have come to wonder! I read that some place before as well.AST > >MIL-SPEC vs. "the spring". Hmm....which is better..... > > >Thanks for reminding me of something that I ALMOST forgot about. > >Remember to change your SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERIES, my friends. It's Eastern >STANDARD time tonight. > >John KB2HSH > >On 11/3/07, Franklin Antonio <antonio(a)qualcomm.com> wrote: > > > > At 01:25 PM 11/3/2007, John Marranca, Jr wrote: > > >Does anyone know of a source of the MIL-SPEC right angle BNC adapters? I > > am > > >using a hamfest special, and have a feeling that it's affecting my rx on > > the > > >birds. > > > > For kicks, cut it open. I did this once with a right angle "N" > > adapter that I bought at a swapmeet, and in which I observed poor > > performance. Inside I found the center conductor was a small > > spring! The idea, I believe, was that the spring would naturally > > form a gentle circular arc from the center pin of one connector to > > the center pin of the other, maintaining nice spacing from the > > sidewals. This would be fine at DC, or maybe HF, but at UHF this was > > worthless. The spring was electrically a coil, in other words an > > inductor, which was altogether the wrong thing. Laughable. > > > > > >-- >_______________________________ > > >John Marranca, Jr >PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 >BN Systems, Inc >Orchard Park, NY >(716)972-2006 >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW ====================================== BP40IQ 50-MHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xpol-20, 185w DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa(a)hotmail.com ======================================

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Eastern Standard Time
by John Marranca, Jr 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Sorry. You're right. Chalk it up to a brain-slip. No offense meant. But, still...CHANGE THOSE SMOKE DETECTOR BATTERIES! We just had a fire locally that could have ended MUCH better than it did if the detectors had had batteries. One of the "higher-ups" of the Buffalo Fire Department said that (quote) "it's sad to investigate a fire and find casualties, and THEN find smoke detectors without batteries". I know it's off topic for this board, but I just want to remind my friends for the better. 73, John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Sinclair RadioLabs . Preamp frquency range?
by nader omer 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hello all I found at a junk an old RF preamplifier from Sinclair Radio Labs Tonawanda N.Y I would like to know anymore info and the frequency range! Power 14 V -+2 With two small tuning knobs at the front panel 10.5 x 6.5x 4cm in dimensions and two flanks with 2 holes at each side for fixing There a one transistor with 4-pins inside a cap heatsink soldiered to the board Components in two compartments made from pcb Thank you in advance Nader - st2nh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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geo stationary bird
by w7lrd＠comcast.net 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hello To play the devils advocate for a moment. With a geo (stuck) sattelite we are pretty much stuck with the same foot print forever. Unless of course there is some sort of cross linking in the future. I very fondly recall AO-40 and bringing it up on my computer and seeing where the foot print was today. Maybe it's the Europeans or perhaps the VK's, ZL's (love their accent), or maybe some JA's, (practice my Japanese). At some time, I knew I could cover the whole planet. I do of course believe this is an excellent opportunity, though there are a some limitations. -- 73 Bob W7LRD AMSAT member 28498 Seattle

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Re: Right Angle BNC adapters
by Franklin Antonio 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

At 01:25 PM 11/3/2007, John Marranca, Jr wrote: >Does anyone know of a source of the MIL-SPEC right angle BNC adapters? I am >using a hamfest special, and have a feeling that it's affecting my rx on the >birds. For kicks, cut it open. I did this once with a right angle "N" adapter that I bought at a swapmeet, and in which I observed poor performance. Inside I found the center conductor was a small spring! The idea, I believe, was that the spring would naturally form a gentle circular arc from the center pin of one connector to the center pin of the other, maintaining nice spacing from the sidewals. This would be fine at DC, or maybe HF, but at UHF this was worthless. The spring was electrically a coil, in other words an inductor, which was altogether the wrong thing. Laughable.

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Re: Right Angle BNC adapters
by Dave Guimont 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

> > >Does anyone know of a source of the MIL-SPEC right angle BNC adapters? I am >using a hamfest special, and have a feeling that it's affecting my rx on the >birds. > Hi John, found one right on top of the junk box...wish I could find stuff that easily when I look!! I know I have it, somewhere, go out and buy one, and a few days later I come across one!! Send me your mail address, and I'll pop it in the mail... 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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Re: Right Angle BNC adapters
by Dave Guimont 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

At 01:25 PM 11/3/2007, you wrote: >Hello my friends, and Happy Saturday: > >Does anyone know of a source of the MIL-SPEC right angle BNC adapters? I am >using a hamfest special, and have a feeling that it's affecting my rx on the >birds. > >No hurry. Just pondering while I am preparing for winter, and making >improvements before the snow flies. > >Thanks! > >John KB2HSH > Hi John, am sure I have one in my junk box.....let me take a look and I'll mail right back... 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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Palm OS sat software
by Ed Tump 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Folks, If anyone has a good or bad review on Palm OS based software for sat work, I would love to hear it. Thanks! Ed KC9GWK New AmSat member

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Re: Quadrifilar Helices
by Juan Carlos Borrás 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

http://www.jcoppens.com/ant/qfh/calc.en.php Cheers, JC!

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Right Angle BNC adapters
by John Marranca, Jr 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hello my friends, and Happy Saturday: Does anyone know of a source of the MIL-SPEC right angle BNC adapters? I am using a hamfest special, and have a feeling that it's affecting my rx on the birds. No hurry. Just pondering while I am preparing for winter, and making improvements before the snow flies. Thanks! John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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PCSat over SOAM
by Gustavo Carpignano 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hi, Strong signals from PCSAT this morning over Buenos Aires, Arg at 10:45 UTC. 10:47 NODIGI>APRS2>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :BLN2PCSAT:Pse send an APRS EMAIL via sat to wb4apr(a)amsat.org 10:47 NODIGI>APRS3>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :BLN3PCSAT:ISS and ANDE also on 145.825 MHz now! 10:49 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): >Digi off until fully chargd 10:50 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#301,023,070,103,026,214,00111111,0100,1 10:51 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#302,129,133,136,133,214,00111111,0101,1 10:53 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#304,158,158,063,209,214,00111111,0111,1 10:54 NODIGI>APRS1>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): :BLN1PCSAT:Please help demo emrgncy field ops from mobiles and portable 10:54 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#305,018,031,117,027,214,00111111,0100,1 10:56 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#307,133,134,056,129,214,00111111,0110,1 10:57 NODIGI/SGATE>BEACON>UI,?,F0 (1200 baud): T#308,160,161,054,210,214,00111111,0111,1 73 Gustavo, LW2DTZ --------------------------------- Los referentes más importantes en compra/venta de autos se juntaron: Demotores y Yahoo!.Ahora comprar o vender tu auto es más fácil. Visitá http://ar.autos.yahoo.com/

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Re: Simulated Emergency Test via Satellite
by Henk, PA3GUO 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hi Bob, Fully agree ! In case of emergency, when we need to forward messages, APRS by the far the most reliable & efficient communication method: - messages take 2 only seconds up/down airtime - spelling family names in voice is error-prone - voice would need voice recording, APRS has findu.com - findu.com can be monitored worldwide (= auto forwarding) See below the message I forwarded during a 17 degrees PCSAT pass. Henk, PA3GUO ------------------------------ Onderwerp: APRS Message from PA3GUO-10 Van: ksproul(a)rci.rutgers.edu Datum: Zat, november 3, 2007 7:19 pm Aan: pa3guo(a)amsat.org SSET checking from JO21RJ -------------------------- Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ APRS path = PA3GUO-10>APRS,PCSAT-1*,qAO,PA3GUO > I am thinking AMSAT (we) need to do more emergency > service preparations and tests with our satellites. > Not only will that test our capabilities, but we > will also need to demonstrate our emergency response > capabilities as a group to help sell the new > P4 concept to the supporters of this new Geo initiative.

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ISS EVA Scanner Frequencies
by K7XQ 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Wonder if we will hear any activity on the EVA frequencies during the solar panel repairs ?? 296.800 MHz : Air-to-ground, or Orbiter to E.V.A. suit 259.700 MHz : Air-to-ground, or suit to Orbiter 279.000 MHz : Suit-to-Orbiter, or suit-to-suit 410.2 - NFM - New UHF Space Shuttle EVA Channel 414.2 - NFM - New UHF Space-Space Communication Channel K7XQ Jeff Atwater, CA. Grid: CM97qi EME, Satellites, Meteor Scatter CW and JT-65 ( WSJT ) 50 MHz: 2 X M2 6M7 1000 watts 2 X 3-500 144 MHz: 4 X XPOL M2 2MPX28 1500 Watts Single GS35b 222 MHz: 1 X M2 5 W.L. 350 watts Single 8930 432 MHz: 4 X M2 9 W.L. ( modify in progress for XPOL ) 1200 Watts single GS35b 1296 MHz: 3.0 meter dish VE4MA circular feed 350 Watts single GS15 water-cooled 2304 MHz/2320 MHz/2424 MHz: 3.0 meter dish VE4MA circular feed 200 watts Spectrian SSPA 10 GHz: early 2008 K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html

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Quadrifilar Helices
by John Marranca, Jr 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Does anyone know of a website or of construction plans for an 70 cm Quadrifilar Helix antenna? I have heard that they work quite well for an omni-directional LEO antenna. I am looking for an improvement over my Eggbeaters, which have been excellent thus far. Thanks John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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ARISS digi inop?
by Ken Swaggart 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Haven't had any success getting a packet through the ISS the past few days, even though the beacon says BBS and APRS is on. I know it's been off during the spacewalks, but it's beaconing today, but no packets are making it through. Does anyone have some clarifying information? Tnx, Ken, W7KKE

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Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 679
by Reicher, James 03 Nov '07

03 Nov '07

Hi Jerry, Let me break this down for you a little bit. The only advantage to having an Arrow-type antenna is that you can more easily hold and point the antenna, bypassing the need for a rotor. I wouldn't recommend this method if you're going to use your 857 with out-put of more than 5 watts. The FM birds will require more than 5 watts to get thru all the QRM. If you have two rigs to work with, why not try out AO7, FO29, or VO52? You'll find them easy to get into; I've worked AO7 with my 817, on mode A, using CW and 5 watts into a Ringo Ranger. I couldn't do it on SSB though, AO7 wants a little more gain than that. My antennas now are 11 elements on both 2M and 70cm and I can always hit the birds. I turn them with an HD73 rotor. 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:05:22 -0600 From: "nr5a" <nr5a(a)rap.midco.net> Subject: [amsat-bb] New to this! To: <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> Message-ID: <017301c81cb1$c631ca00$6400a8c0@PC270429458147> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I use to work the RS birds and just loved it, now of course there is nothing like that. I swore I"d never do the FM birds cause I don't even do the FM Repeaters. I've lived near Rapid City, SD for 21 years and can count the number of times I've been on the reapeaters here on one hand. Sorry they just don't do anything for me. I've broke down and decieded I want to get on the FM birds. The radio will be mostly my FT-817 or I can go FT-857D if I get the urge. I see antennas like the Arrows where 2 beams are on the same boom, is there a real advantage to this?? My antenna will be mounted outdoors and I'm going in the direction of 2 antennas on a cross boom. I'm not that interested in parading around in a parking lot carring a antenna and looking silly. How much antenna do I really need? I have tried listening on the FT-817's rubber duck antenna with no results. I thru together a hastly built one element egg beater type. (a site to see, held together by duct tape.) The other nite I almost heard AO-51. My next step is tearing off the eggbeater and duct taping a 3 el yagi to the yardstick. I want to see the difference and maybe learn something while playing. I'll go now cause I'm probably wasiting your time thanks for reading this. Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota

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Re: Quadrifilar Helices
by Jeff Hite 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

> ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:33:09 -0700 > From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(a)san.rr.com> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Quadrifilar Helices > To: "R.Haighton" <ve3frh(a)cogeco.ca> > Cc: amsat-bb(a)amsat.org > Message-ID: <200711021733.lA2HX9s4008456(a)ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > > >> The Satellite Experimenters Handbook by Martin Davidoff K2UBC (1990 Pages >> 8-15 & 16) and it's successor The Radio Amateur's Satellite Handbook (1998 >> pages 10-13 to 10-15) both have details of this antenna, its use and its >> construction. >> I recommend this book to all satellite experimenters and users, it may be >> nearly 10 years old but the principles and information contained therein >> have not changed. >> >> Robin Haighton VE3FRH >> Immediate Past President AMSAT >> > > That's exactly where I started, Robin, on page 6-20 of the original edition. > But Maxwell's measurement produced a horrible > VSWR.....I saw Marty later on at a convention, > and I believe he said the same thing happened to him... > > It took me 4 iterations to get the antenna flat > with no matching device...I of course did it at > 435. But those dimensions translated very > successfully to 2M satellite, 2M repeaters, and > believe it or not to 2.4 gigs....In front of a dish, of course!!! > > I had seen other pictures of the antenna, and was > very interested prior to Marty's excellent > depiction of the construction details... > > I used a combination of 435 and 2M versions fixed > at about 45?, and rotated in AZ only and worked > very well with strong signal birds... > > Quadfilxxxxxxxxx has the dimensions for the 3, > but the 2.4 gig computation is left as an exercise for those interested. > > http://home.san.rr.com/doguimont/uploads/ > > Nice to hear from you, Robin....R U active on any of the birds?? > > > > > 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org > Disagree: I learn.... > > Pulling for P3E... > > > > I found WB6LLO's 435 version easy to reproduce with good results. -- Jeff KK7WR

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Re: New to this
by John Marranca, Jr 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

NR5A: Welcome. My Lord, our stories sound IDENTICAL. I was a Mode K/RS jockey myself. And I, too, sold my 2-meter FM gear years ago because of the junk that was going on locally. I also use an FT-817ND for...well...everything, really... ...as well as having 2 eggbeaters. And, with the gear I have, I'm having a blast. You shouldn't have any difficulty. either. I have the AO-51 and AO-27 AOS frequencies stored as a memory...but I manually tune the main VFO to chase the Doppler. Works out very well. I keep one of the VFOs on 145.825 for APRS via satellite. Finally, my HOME frequency is 144.390 for terrestrial APRS. Other than the birth of my kids, my wedding day, and the start of my career, the NEXT best day was the day my FT-817ND came. (Almost 20 years on HF doing the same-old same-old started getting boring....) Good Luck, my friend, and we'll listen for you on the birds. 73 de KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Re: Mobile Satellite Month
by John Marranca, Jr 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

QUOTE: >* 145.825 ANDE-1 (re-entry expected next month) *That will be sad, indeed...as I've enjoyed using it for the short amount of time I've been interested in the hamsats. John KB2HSH* * -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Re: New to this!
by Clint Bradford 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

> >>...mostly my FT-817 or I can go FT-857D if I get the urge... You can easily work AO-51 and SO-50 with your '817! Page 45 of the 817ND manual shows you how to program "split frequencies." Here's a quick tutorial on working AO-51 and SO-50 for you: http://homepage.mac.com/clintbradford/Menu3.html Clint Bradford, K6LCS AMSAT Area Coordinator

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My email
by Robert McGwier 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

If you attempted to send email to my AMSAT email alias in the past two weeks, it likely bounced. I recently changed providers from comcast to verizon and I was just certain I had moved all of my email accounts. I think I did, except for one, possibly the most important. Thanks to all who pointed it out. Bob -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair “An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why must the pessimist always run to blow it out?” Descartes

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Doppler compensation??
by Dave Guimont 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

Can someone explain this "new" thing about the difficulty in compensating for doppler? I used to do it with one hand on a knob, or with one of the many programs available. Has something changed?? 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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WRC-07 - ERO report on first week
by Trevor 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

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New to this!
by nr5a 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

I use to work the RS birds and just loved it, now of course there is nothing like that. I swore I"d never do the FM birds cause I don't even do the FM Repeaters. I've lived near Rapid City, SD for 21 years and can count the number of times I've been on the reapeaters here on one hand. Sorry they just don't do anything for me. I've broke down and decieded I want to get on the FM birds. The radio will be mostly my FT-817 or I can go FT-857D if I get the urge. I see antennas like the Arrows where 2 beams are on the same boom, is there a real advantage to this?? My antenna will be mounted outdoors and I'm going in the direction of 2 antennas on a cross boom. I'm not that interested in parading around in a parking lot carring a antenna and looking silly. How much antenna do I really need? I have tried listening on the FT-817's rubber duck antenna with no results. I thru together a hastly built one element egg beater type. (a site to see, held together by duct tape.) The other nite I almost heard AO-51. My next step is tearing off the eggbeater and duct taping a 3 el yagi to the yardstick. I want to see the difference and maybe learn something while playing. I'll go now cause I'm probably wasiting your time thanks for reading this. Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota

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Rohn 45G stuff needed
by Stargate 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

OK, Last call before I order new. (I hate to do that:-) I'm looking for the following..... BPL45G Rohn 45G Flat top bearing plate Rohn TB3 bearing 45G house bracket AS455G Rotor shelf It doesn't need to be Rohn. Equivalent Nello, or other makers will be considered as well. Thanks, RoD KD0XX A good friend will come and bail you out of jail, A TRUE friend will be sitting next to you saying..... "DAMN THAT WAS FUN"

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I'm Here!
by Greg KJ6KO 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hi Guys! Thought I'd join the list just in case you had any questions. I think everyone is getting tired of forwarding email to me. Anyway, I can keep you updated on the amplifier progress and keep in touch easier this way. 73 de Greg KJ6KO www.kj6ko.com

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Re: Helices
by John Marranca, Jr 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Thank you to EVERYONE that has responded to my query from this morning. I appreciate it very much. It is the sense of helping one-another that I enjoy the satellite community so much. 73 de John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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GB5OSO sputnik special event station report
by Robert Turlington 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hi All many thanks to all stations who managed to have a QSO with the sputnik special event Satellite station GB5OSO ,well done! I am awaiting the QSL cards to come from the printers so it may be a while before they arrive. The event went very well with 300+ QSO's in 33 DXCC countries on AO7,AO27,SO51,AO51 and VO52 ,in all 170+ stations were logged many of whome were worked on more than one Satellite and special thanks to the two stations who I worked on all 5 birds namely G1OCN and ON5NY.Also many thanks to JA0CAW and JH1EKH who were able to organise a conection via EchoLink to SO50 and AO51 whilst they were over Japan.There was also some activity on HF and wiil post the results for that later on.Regards Robert G8ATE _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com

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Re: WiSP on Vista
by Mineo Wakita 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hello Alan VE4YZ and ALL, I succeeded in setup WiSP on Windows Vista, according to Export/Import of Registry on Xp/Vista. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wispvist.htm Thank you very much. de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Re: Doppler
by Dave Guimont 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

> >Doppler to newcomers is like asking them to drive a car with Stick >Shift, I mean the ones before we had synchronized gears. Today >driving a car, operating a computer, does not require much brain. >A lot of people replaced their brains already with Laptops but lost >the software. > >Will be interesting to see what's coming down the pike. Tnx, Walter, I drive a synchronized car, but if I had to jump into my dad's old Model T, at 85, I think I could figure out which of the 3 pedals to push!! Of course, today, I would try it in a big parking lot with no cars.... That is about how hard it is to crank a knob!! I quit!! 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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Re: Doppler compensation??
by Dave Guimont 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

>Yes, > >Because of the low sun activity the satellites are underpowered and it >negatively (inversely) affects their transmitters (Low squint angle). The >Doppler effect is now increasingly changing randomly especially on >frequencies below 12MHz. All the modern radios are getting a hick-up and >SatPc32 is complaining the most. Best way is to turn the radio off >immediately and hide because it is Halloween. ye gods! one cranks the knob faster!!! 73, Dave wb6llo(a)amsat.org Disagree: I learn.... Pulling for P3E...

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Phase 4
by John Marranca, Jr 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Say it isn't so. Say it's just a dream.... Just this past weekend, I was reading an OLD QST from 1974 that had mentioned the notion that AMSAT wanted a geo-synch satellite by 1975. How amazing. The thought was kicked around on a local AMSAT 2-meter net in the early 1990 (back during the Mode K days of yore). Imagine...ULTRA RELIABLE DX...24 hours per day. Those with antenna restrictions or home-owner's covenants could be QRV. And if the up/down links were UHF and above, a pair of helices could be used INSIDE, pointing through a window.... Just a thought, though. What about our European and Asian friends? Could facilities be included so that geo-synchs over their respective footprints could be linked? Or possibly the satellite being "parked" over an area that could include the US and Europe? I realize that it is all dependent on the space that the host bird has. This is truly exciting! John KB2HSH -- _______________________________ John Marranca, Jr PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122 BN Systems, Inc Orchard Park, NY (716)972-2006

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Call for Symposium Photos
by JoAnne Maenpaa 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hi everyone, I'd appreciate it if you could forward me any photos from the Symposium that you think would be suitable to print in the AMSAT Journal. I noticed a few nice cameras clicking away :-) Direct e-mail to me is k9jkm(a)comcast.net in case the amsat alias gives you any heartburn with big attachments. Thanks! -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm(a)amsat.org

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WiSP on Vista
by Mineo Wakita 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I confirmed that gsc.exe could not work on Windows Vista. We can setup seemingly WiSP on Vista, but gsc.exe can not run with a error message. I guess that the correct setup information are not written into Registry. de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita

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Re: AMSAT Store Down?
by Eric H Christensen 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

And the store is back! Thanks Paul and Martha. 73s, Eric W4OTN I just got off the phone with our domain name provider (on hold for 52 minutes). It WAS suppose to renew automatically. They have no idea why it didn't. It should be restored soon. On 10/31/07, Eric H Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us> wrote:Don't you love how that works? Thanks Paul! 73s, Eric W4OTN >>I just tried to access the AMSAT Store but the site failed. Anyone else >having this problem? > >The domain name AMSAT-NA.COM, which was supposed to auto-renew, was allowed to >expire. >We will get it restored as soon as possible. > >73 -Paul >kb5mu(a)amsat.org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- 73- Martha

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Re: AMSAT Store Down?
by Eric H Christensen 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Don't you love how that works? Thanks Paul! 73s, Eric W4OTN >>I just tried to access the AMSAT Store but the site failed. Anyone else >having this problem? > >The domain name AMSAT-NA.COM, which was supposed to auto-renew, was allowed to >expire. >We will get it restored as soon as possible. > >73 -Paul >kb5mu(a)amsat.org

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AMSAT Store Down?
by Eric H Christensen 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I just tried to access the AMSAT Store but the site failed. Anyone else having this problem? 73s, Eric W4OTN

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Re: Phase 4
by sco＠sco-inc.com 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Are you kidding? Eagle costs millions for us to launch P4 lite is FREE? Phase 4 will have 400 watts of power given to us for FREE for 15 years. Phase 4 will have engine and fuel and ground control station keeping in a geo sat position for FREE for 15 years. All we need to do is build the transponder and enjoy the free ride ... and not to even go begging to find a ride. Phase 4 to me should have absolute priority over Eagle, at least for the first P4 (I assume there may be more in the future?). Les W4SCO At 10:58 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: >Hi Robert (N4HY) > >I have been reading all the info on the BB about what appears to be a Geo >syncronous amateur system supported by a commercial bird. >Obviously you and others have done much work to understand this scheme >in order to develop support for it. >My problem is I do not have enough to really handle this issue as a Amsat >Coordinator and was not able to attend the symposium. >Being an uninformed Amsat Coordinator is not healthy for Amsat. > >Is a system level proposal for this new Phase 4 going to be provided with >sufficient numbers to allow membership evaluation before any impact on >the Eagle system effort is considered acceptable. >A question that needs an answer as I have already been asked. > >Will an analysis of the effects on the HEO DXCC desires of the membership >as to the effect of a stationary fixed aperture antenna pattern in Geo >versus a moving satellite location fixed aperture antenna system not in >Geo. >To include the need to use high squint angles and power levels required >on both >ends of this sort of link budget. > >Sorry I did not attend the symposium. > >Joe Murray K0VTY >Amsat # 860 >Amsat area Coordinator NE >================================= >On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:22:45 -0400 Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier(a)gmail.com> >writes: > > We have kept Eagle satellite alive. The lab at U. Md. ES is being > > built > > out and we are going ahead with the structure. We helped fund the > > completion of P3E with our international partners and stepped up > > our > > efforts to finish the IHU-3 for them (and us. > > > > The Eagle satellite structure build out is funded and slated for > > completion in 2008. > > > > We are really going to try to get P3E a ride on Intelsat to balance > > > > against the other offers to see what is best for AMSAT-DL and us. > > > > Stefan's analysis is correct. Any one geostationary bird can cover > > > > roughly a third of the earth. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > Stefan Wagener wrote: > > > Yes, > > > > > > It is a great project and deserves our full support! > > > > > > Having said that we also need to realize, that depending on the > > location of > > > the satellite above the equator we might only have the Americas in > > the foot > > > print. No Europe or Africa and no Asia. Since the first > > geostationary > > > satellite with amateur radio has to provide tangible support for > > government > > > agencies (funding source) it will certainly be primarily centered > > around a > > > North American footprint. That's why we need to keep Eagle alive > > and support > > > Phase 3E. > > > > > > All together they will give us the full package of worldwide DX > > via > > > satellite and reliable high power communication in the Americas. > > > > > > 73. Stefan VE4NSA > > > > > > > -- > > AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, > > TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair > > "An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why > > must the pessimist always run to blow it out?" Descartes > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > > author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > n settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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